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HIGHESTPOPORI:
Atleast you now agree that 25percent in Abuja is compulsory

They are gradually coming to sense. It may tarry but they will 😂

Reincarnate:
Tinubu opponents won in his stronghold and he Tinubu also won in some of his opponents stronghold, please what is difficult for the opposition to understand in that?

What I don't understand is the level of your stupidity 🤡🤡🤡

DesChyko:
Let's revisit the constitution, shall we?

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2/3rds of the States of the Federation is 24 States. What is 2/3 of the FCT, which is equivalent to a State?

He/she must secure not less than 25% of votes cast in each of at least two-thirds of all the States of the federation and FCT

Agbado = 🤡

kokorokoman:
so if tinubu can rig in his opponent's stronghold Why do you think he couldn't rig Lagos and osun states his own Domain?

He rigged Lagos but his performance was too poor to rig it to the point of winning it. Tinubu added 500k votes of Peter Obi to his own. Thief 🤥

Lotanna2:
Two third of Abuja is 300k.25% is 75k and tinubu had 90k

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😂😂😂

ObaIgwe1:
But Arteta benched Tomi for White at RB and he was getting the results he wanted...

Naaa... I will rather take Arteta decision with proven results over your Agenda opinion.

Iamoyindamola has not understood that tactical role of White in Arteta's set-up that's why he think he is poor. I believe his reason is that he doesn't overlap. But White is not really a RB in that set-up. He is a CD during attacking phase and only plays RB defending. That is why he was preferred over Tomi. Playing Tomi and Zinny at either end will weaken the defense. White and Zinny worked well.

The reason Arteta brought Timber, is for him to give the Zinny effect on the right. He tried it with Partey towards the end of last season. It worked well on our final game against Wolves.

Timber and Zinny will make Arteta's line up unpredictable as the opposite coach won't know who will be inverted so as to nullify the tactics. If Timber is inverted then either Tierney or Kiwior plays LB. If Zinny is inverted, either White or Tomi or even same Timber plays RB.

That was why I said based on the last friendly, that Timber will be hard to push aside because of his solidity and versatility. Timber can be your attacking fullback, RCB and also inverted RB.

iamoyindamola:
Same coach that continues making silly decisions that affect the team

Every coach makes silly decisions. Pep made a silly decision in his tactics in the 2022 CL final when he lost to Chelsea. In fact anyone saddled with the responsibility of making decisions must have made a few silly ones. Even you, if you are in the position of decision making, then you must have made some silly ones too. But at the end, it is the cumulative effect that is used to judge performance.

So let's not sound as if Arteta is a simple dumbass, he finished above Klopp.

iamoyindamola:
Because we have seen how arteta threw some games away even when the quality were there.
If everyone is rating players and not the coach then something is definitely wrong with the coach

You cannot separate the team from the manager especially if it's the manager that actually built the team.

This Arsenal that we are all salivating about was built by Arteta. Give him the credit or else don't credit the team at all.

I am supporting this protest with 1L of fuel.

This government must favour me and my family no matter what in Jesus name.

I can only rate coaches based on their previous performances and what they are doing to improve.

Pep for example is so good that even when you think he is weakened he bounces back. Losing Gundogan and Mahrez who were main stays in his team last season will surely weaken him. We will see how he works that out. But so far, I am not impressed.

For Arteta, he already had a good first eleven. He has spent big to get ready made stars who can go straight in to improve the first team is a massive response to last season. For me right now, he has the best squad in the league.

He should be competing with the very best in Europe.

mostob:
You don't expect him to play exactly like Timber. Variety is the spice of life. There are some aspects where Tomi is better too. You don't have to underrate Tomi. Moreso, today's match was a friendly.

It's not underrating but comparison. Tomi will really need to reinvent himself to upstage Timber. I speak from experience.

mostob:
Lol...na Tomi you dey underrat like this? Na injury I blame sha

No vex o, but if what Timber played yesterday is his normal (remember that he has not even blended with the likes of Saka, Saliba, Jesus etc) then no way for Tomi, unless he reinvents himself.

iamoyindamola:
What i know is with our current defense we can play 4 man defense and 5 man defense comfortably
Same with the midfield
I am saying this because arteta doesn't have excuse
The good thing about this transfer is we are getting our first choice not second

That's just it. No excuses. He needs to bring in either the PL or the CL. Anything less is a failure now.

This team is good enough for any good coach. And besides I think other teams are weakened one way or the other except us and Man United.

germaphobe:
Arteta on Havertz: "He gives us something different. his height for example where he can be a target man if we need to beat the press. He’s playing at CAM for now but I’m sure throughout the season he’ll be used in different positions."

(Kaya Kaynak).

At this point, can y'all put just a little respect to spy's name
First half wasn't what I expected, especially considering the starting xl. So I slept off midway into it.

Good morning to y'all.

Thanks for the mention 🙏🏼

mostob:
Arteta doesn't rate Tierney and Zinchenko is unavailable.

I don't think so. I think it's because of Tierney that he brought Timber. Tierney cannot play the inverted role but is very good going forward. So Timber will play as the inverted fullback.

That Timber self is very versatile as he can even push forward into attack. He should be our best signing based on what I saw early this morning. Tomiyasu should go and find rag to clean his bench as he will spend a lot of time there.

iamoyindamola:
Na broom we go use sweep una 2 away
Our midfield should be partey declan and odegaard
Kaikai should go and fight up front

Lol

That's the second option

First option is Rice, Havertz and Odegaard

The good thing is that we have depth. Strong depth.

Havertz gets into Xhaka's position and does well.

liveLongNprospa:
Shey 8 million of you voted tinubu.
Oya use your good wishes for the country to make it better nau.. Abi you nor fit support your president?
Or you sef dey wish the country evil? 😩

There are less than 8million idiots in Nigeria according to the real figures.

garfield1:
Actually,tinubu has gotten a little bit more popular.his sack of emefiele singlehandedly won him thousands of fans.my aunt a staunch obidient has tilted to tinubu.other of his economic quickfire policies or baba go fast style has earned new fans.tinubu as an outsider defeated atiku in the north and now with incumbency will rout him.
As it stands,any election in ss will be massively stalemated,they will be no clear winner.it is only from the se that obi can easily give atiku votes.the govt can easily suppress or disrupt voting here. less I forget,turnout here is poor and many obidients here won't want to vote atiku

Can't Tinubu win election without malpractice? For someone who claims to believe in democracy the minimum requirement is to allow for free and fair election. This goes to show the kind of person you support and the kind of person you are.

garfield1:
Like I told you,addresses are based on what transpired at the tribunal proceedings.there is nothing new they will say

You may never know

garfield1:
So obidients should rest kwanu

You are concluding when we haven't seen the petitioners reply.

garfield1:
Assuming the court orders that 25% in fct is mandatory and that there should be a runoff,it will be between tinubu and the person who came second which is atiku.obi will lose out,he will not partake.so why are obidients painstakingly, mischievously and persistently insisting that 25% is fct is a must? Or is it that they prefer atiku to be president than Tinubu?

You are right. Peter Obi will have to disqualify Tinubu or find a way to come second through his Rivers and Benue results

The thing be say both good and bad leadership go affect everybody las las

OasisX:


What is not clear here? ".....and FCT [plus FCT]", not ".....all the States of Federation, and FCT", [i.e FCT is independent due to comma, hence its mandatory to get 25% separately there as well].

Read again, slowly and carefully to understand the provision, una Lawyers don scam una well well.....LMFAO!

So if I say I went to the market to buy two bags of the rice and the beans you requested , then I should put a comma after rice?

Comma is used when more than two items are listed disjunctively. Similar to when among is used instead of between for more than two items.

Rice, beans, or yam.

Rice, beans, and yam

NL will pay me for this educational service.

Android17:
You're reading alot into the emotionalism that surrounds Peter Obi's candidacy than the actual merits of it. The spirit of the law rather than the letter is how the law is interpreted.

The simple interpretation of the law is,

The winner should have the highest total number of votes cast. . .

AND

He/She should have garnered at least 25% of the votes in 2/3rds of the states of the federation (full stop)

Remember that the FCT being Abuja was not a reality until 1991 yet this law had existed from 1979. That should tell you;

1. It is not particular to Abuja. The Abuja part was added when the constitution was amended. It most probably was Lagos before and you dare not claim that the candidate that did not obtain 25% in Lagos but had the highest total number of votes whilst achieving at least 25% of votes cast in 2/3rd majority of the states in Nigeria did not win the election.

2. It was created for federal character purposes meaning one state does not take precedence over another. 1979 constitution was trying to fix the problems created by the first republic constitution.

With that in mind, if the law had not included the (and FCT part) it would have implied that one need not hold elections in the FCT thus disenfranchising the denizens of Abuja. On other hand, If it had mentioned 37 states, then any other information about Nigeria stating that she constituted of 36 states would have been factually wrong.

The law needed her to be a vote-able state for elections sake and yet preserve her integrity as the federal capital at the same time.

Based on your submission don't you think it's the same reason Abuja was created? For Federal character? Because the purpose of Abuja was to create a melting point for Nigerians where no tribe or religion will have any control and that would become the seat of power of the president? Hence why the need to give it that importance? To the extent that the original settlers on that area were actually relocated and compensated and named Suleja in Niger state.

So if the law gives Abuja such importance should not be a surprise.

Again, if the spirit of the law is not for FCT to be given special importance then why was it added AND the FCT. Why not INCLUDING the FCT? Afterall, the FCT were to be treated as if it was a state?

Besides logically speaking, if FCT was to be included it would make no sense as two thirds of 37 is not feasible since 37 being a prime number is not divisible by any number apart from itself. So asking for 2/3 of 37 is a confusion on its own.

As to your first sentence, it's true that I voted Peter Obi and I don't want Tinubu because of his criminal past (it is a bad record for the country and a precedence that will haunt us for ever), but however, if an election or the making of a president should be done, it should follow the process in at least an excellent manner.

The idea of riggers wins all, or certificate forgers or violation of the constitution just to impose yourself on the country should be resisted by all. Posterity is waiting to judge us all if we support evil.

Toks2008:
OK lemme agree that Abuja is the 37 state.

Meaning a winner must make 25% in 2/3 of 37 states.

So what is 2/3 of 37 =24.6

So which state will be considered 0.6?

So in essence, the constitution is clear...

2/3 of 36 states which is 24 AND ABUJA

Meaning 25% in at least 24 out of the 36 states and then 25% in Abuja making at 25 states.

But let's see how the court interpretes it.

You are intelligent.

Arapmoi22:
There's is no number that is not divisible.

That they are trying to develop your brain at elementary level by telling you that doesn't mean it is correct universally.

Every numerator can be divided by any denominator.
You may either have a whole number (which is the elementary knowledge you acquired) or fraction (decimal) which isn't whole number.

We all had to grow from the elementary knowledge anyway.

Are you a mathematician?

If there are 37 persons and I asked you if they are divisible by 4, how many persons will you get? The idea of divisibility is that there should be no fractions. Fractions therefore invalidates the divisibility as the data is lost.

Mind you I didn't say divide by 4, I asked if it is divisible by 4. The answer will refer to whether that number of items is in the multiples of 4.

I took time to educate you what your elementary teacher didn't or perhaps you weren't paying attention.

OasisX:


Share it yourself nah.....LOL! My Lord, Spy, dey interpret the law.....LMFAO

As my lord pleases...

(2) A candidate for an election to the office of President shall be deemed to have been duly elected where, there being more than two candidates for the election-

(a) he has the highest number of votes cast at the election;

and

(b) he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.

OasisX:


Which constitution pls? Can you help with section(s)?!

Section 134

You can help us with the quote just as you did for 299.

Meanwhile, that 299 you quoted was meant for adminstration of the FCT not as election. 134 came before 299. So it cannot be subject to it

Arapmoi22:
It is actually divisible.
You only won’t get a whole number.

Olodo. Go back to primary school and learn multiples of 4. Or ask your 7year old neice.

pineed:
I modified so as not to cause confusion

My point is that FCT is considered as 37th state in election not a special state as people have been propagating

What were you doing when APC and Tinubu wer e looking for witnesses?

Besides, you haven't seen the reply of both LP and PDP, so how do you think they have not presented their results to the tribunal?

Please follow your advice and rest this matter let the judges do their job. Spreading propaganda accross the net is a poor paying job. Get a real job.

raumdeuter:
25% of FCT makes no sense and you know it

You mean all a candidate needs to do is win FCT regardless of how he does in other states

It's like saying whoever wins Awka automatically becomes governor of Anambra or if you don't get 25% in Awka you cannot be governor regardless of how you do in other LGAs across the state even if you win other LGAs by a landslide

No constitution said that and that will be a silly thing to suggest but no be today

The constitution did not say if you won just FCT you have won the election. It says to be declared winner, the candidate has to secure 25% votes in 24 states and also 25% in the FCT. That's the literal interpretation of the constitution.

Your argument is that FCT is not important as it cannot be given a higher status than other states. This premise is on the idea that all votes are equal and equivalent.

My argument is premised on the idea that all votes are equal but not equivalent. How? The requirement for spread. If all votes are equivalent then there would be no need for spread. A simple majority should suffice. 25% in Bayelsa for example is less than 100k votes whereas 25% in Kano is over 1million votes. Hence 100k in Bayelsa ~ 1m in Kano.

The same principle applies to 25% in FCT. It is equivalent to 25% in 24 states following the same logic. That's what I see it means. I didn't put it there, I am just interpreting what's there.

If we want to remove the 25% clause in FCT to win an election, we should equally remove the 25% in 24 states.