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Lush100:
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Odegard suppose.shout na.
That was the moment .
He's human too na.
He can then meet the guy later and apologize.
You think it's easy to stay at the top.
The whole team is trying to be at the top and remain there.
Any defeat at any time will psychologically affect the whole team.
With teams believing they can beat arsenal.
Xhaka was criticized openly by the fans.
It's left for the manager to know how to get the best of him behind closed doors.
After all those who criticized him will praise him openly too when he is playing well Like Xhaka now.
Nothing stops Odegard from apologizing openly too.
This will.be different of it's a senior player involved.
That one is left for the manager not captain

If he has to apologize it means he does not need to take that action in the first place.

Like I said, open critisicm is not a bad thing but know who and how you do so, so that you don't damage the individual beyond repair. If that was directed to someone like Saka, I wouldn't mind. But knowing how heavily criticised Lokonga has come these days, doing that can damage his confidence and set him back miles away.

Imagine that your mother is correcting your wife about how bad the food tast6e, and you put mouth saying that she doesn't even know how to boil rice. How do you think you wife will feel about you?

Jodera:
Kokaneprodigy, This is pictures not videos, so it won't capture my point I've been insistent on...

My main point is that

1... the pass being made to the offside players(in this case Man u and Sevilla)

2.. how they(the offside players) made the play active by chasing the ball

3... How they stopped at the last minute for their teammate(who's onside) to receive the ball without they(the offside players) touching the ball

These 3 scenerios was what happened in both games. You've talked about contact by Sevilla player on the Cadiz player which is valid(if true). But I'm not seeing any contact at all instead the Cadiz player slipped

Like I said in the case of the Man United goal, Akanji didn't make a case for himself by aiming at the ball. Here the Cadiz defender made the ref feel he was impeded by going down on the challenge by the Sevilla attacker.

This is football and not a philosophy class. Some players go down under minimal challenge and earn penalty while some stand their ground even under strong challenge and get nothing.

Make a case.

Jencejyde:
Well said on the are we are looking at and I'm glad you agree that issue of leadership is subjective.

Of course the manager will want to douse the tension which is right but then again from a player perspective, on that pitch during a game pdegard in my opinion did nothing wrong.

Of course I can relate to the troubles of Xhaka in the past and that's why I said that the onus is on how the player now reacts to the challenges . Xhaka has reacted wonderful with performances on the pitch and I expect and hope that sambi does the same.

See title winning teams are not based on emotions or baby carrying players. It's based on tough mentality to thrive in good and bad times.

This little issue as I see it may be just a trying time for a sambi who by the way is 23 , but it's now up to him to rise above this for his own sake and that of the team, there is nothing more to be said after this.

Like I said before I am not really into how Lokonga should react, rather I am interested in how Odegaard handled the lad. Note I said the lad and not the issue. You cannot beat a child and still show the child how to cry. You see, in leadership you deal with the issues but you handle the individual.

I cited the case of Xhaka too. But we know that if not Arteta's handling, Xhaka won't be here today and we (probably no one) would know how good he can be as we know today.

If every player barks like Odegaard I don't think the team will be as united and strong as they are now. It's a lesson to learn. I also believe that being a good leader himself Odegaard will ensure that the boy is taken care of.

iamoyindamola:
Rest the guy didn't touch the defender
He slipped

All join. That's the point I made that the defender has to make a case for himself.

I couldn't watch the video as it's not viewable here. @Jodera

Jencejyde:
Baba I get the point clearly and like I said looking at it purely from a player perspective,I do not believe Odegard acted wrongly as a captain. In fact I personally feel he had to do it to instill back concentration and confidence.

Sometimes as fans we will say our team is not doin well and there is no leadership because it seems everyone is just playing anyhow but when a player decides to show some leadership right there on the pitch, we bemoan the fact that it was done openly and could dampen the other players confidence.

I'd rather bark at you when on the pitch in the heat of the moment so as to ensure that we walk out that pitch as winners rather than keep quiet and lose only to meet you later to say you could have done this or that.

It's pointless after the loss.

We are all entitled to how we feel leadership should be displayed but in this context based on what happens on the pitch, I believe Odegard did what was best in not just sambis interest but for the team.

I believe you also see Ramsdale do this to his defenders. This is football and you can ge5 to some extreme adrenalin levels in a high stakes game . It's only normal to let out steam especially when you feel or see that another team mate is not pulling their weight in support of the cause..

Please note that I do not intend to make you change your opinion as leadership is very subjective.

Mine is that knowing how Lokonga has come under criticism in recent times, that action can make him go low.

I remember how Xhaka felt after fans were calling him out while on the pitch and then suddenly the coach decides to sub him. The reaction of the fans became more intensed which led to Xhaka throwing his shirt away damning the consequences.

We saw how Lokonga walked away from the fans?

There are better ways to handle such issues and as Roland said, Arteta had to take the initiative and leadership to protect his man.

That's the area we are looking at.

raumdeuter:
APC is the party in charge of the economy and would shoulder the blame for the poor handling of the Naira redesign and fuel scarcity. That will fall on all APC candidate over the country

This is Kano governor and Senators asking Buhari to move his proposed visit to the state based on security concerns about the Naira redenomination and you think this is about Tinubu

https://www.nairaland.com/7544665/ganduje-asks-buhari-suspend-kano

Banks are beefing up security in anticipation of riots when the deadline expires

https://www.nairaland.com/7544801/new-naira-banks-beef-up

You mean people will turn against APC candidates just as how they did against Jonathan in 2015?

Is that the fear of Tinubu?

Either way, Buhari is working against Tinubu winning the elections.

Jencejyde:
In my opinion and from a player perspective, all I saw was 9utburst of emotion. When you are on the pitch busting your guts out and one player is not on the same wavelength, it's very possible especially if you are the type with an infectious attitude to winning and high performance for you to let it out .

There was a game we played where we were leading the opposition during Europa league back then where ESR and Nelson staters doing some flips and tricks. I remember Xhaka as captain told them off right there on the pitch. Now they did not react badly but rather toned down and kept it simple till the final whistle was blown. For a young player to become good he must learn how to accept critism at times whether publicly or not. Football is tough and you must be mentally strong.

Sometimes it may seem as if the telling off on the pitch may look bad but it's very necessary at times to always get players in tune and maintain high level of concentration. It's the reaction of that player been told off that matters.

Football is a team sport and for you to excel you cannot have some players being passengers and sometimes that little kick helps tune them back.
Sambi for me is going the way of Pepe. If he feels that he was being picked on rather that keep his head up and prove through performance that he is up to it and can hold his own.

I can bet that after all said and done Ode will still go and meet him to speak with him letting know he just needed him to concentrate but it was in the heat of the game, nothing more.

If he reacts badly then that's his problem not oDes own.

Winning sides do not carry weak mentality personnel. If sambi feels bad about this then would he even cope in team with Viera or Roy Keane?. C'mon this is no time to be a softie. We have titile aspirations right in front of us and we must be physically and mentally strong now

The point Roland made was not about how Lokonga should react to the outburst, but if Odegaard acted well as a captain. These are two different things.

Roland17:
Odegaard is the captain of the team, he should know better and exhibit better leadership qualities. Me and you can show frustration and cuss Awilo out, we are fans, not Odegaard! It doesn’t matter how poorly he played on the day, his action has simply pitched the kid against Arsenal fans. Part of your job is to protect, especially your young ones as a leader.

You have made your point and it's clear. Whoever doesn't see it is not a leader. Simple.

Jodera:
I remember berating him last season thinking that he was a 6 and all. But after analysing his game and reading research on him, I found out he wasn't really a 6 or any type of DM for that matter but Arteta wanted to build him as one. It's the main reason towards the end of last season I told Spy that he'll excel as a Cm and not a DM not to talk more of a lone DM.

This season, Arteta doesn't plan to use him as a DM, so I understand he's being used there out of necessity. Even though I will critique his game but I wouldn't be harsh as I was last season were I was all over him.

He performed well playing no 8 in preseason. I wonder why he does get sub opportunities in that position. If I were him, I will demand specifically for that role for trials.

kokaneprodigy:
😫

That's the problem with Lokonga. Being a backup to someone considered as the fulcrum of the team can get into ones head if the mentality is low.

I saw some good moves when he had the ball, but his off the ball movement was poor. This things have to do with psychology and one trying to be what he's not just to please his oga and team mates. The good news for him is that good positioning and movement can be learnt. It will only take time, focus, dedication and consistency.

Filling in for Partey nor be small demand. He better decides to improve or just ask out.

Jodera:
This is the amala turning I certainly dey taya for your side. Just months ago, you said this which I and Oyindamola countered

Emphasis on the words "heavy spendings. Two months down, you've shifted "Newcastle not paying high and talking about quality players"

Note, we weren't debating about player's quality around November but Heavy spendings due to Arab money. As you've turned the Amala to quality and caliber players today, that's the template you'll now use In debating and attacking me months to come.

Exactly how you did with Nketiah and Jesus!!

I no wan go any further. I just wanted to show you how a great amala turner and debate shifting king you are.

Happy weekend to you Sir!

But my stand hasn't change in terms of heavy spending and salaries so where is the amala turning. Or you just want to gain petty sympathy?
Who dash Newcastle up to 63m for one player before if not Arab money?


I am glad it's not just a two way argument because everyone in football can dig out what's true and what's not.
Reality is that it's you who turns amala on argument.

If not, say it again that Newcastle's upturn this season is solely because of their manager. Say it again.

patrickmuf:
See the players in question...Woods, Target, Burn...Lol

Guimaraes and Trippier are good players so is Isak however he is very inconsistent...I think they upped their mentality, they now approach games differently.

Eddie Howe is a brilliant manager no doubt. Newcastle knew what they got. He is doing something similar to what Arteta is doing in Arsenal.

The point I am making is that, placing all the successes of the club on the managerial effort makes it skewed. That means ignoring the investment made by the owners.

Mind you, Newcastle were able to attract the likes of Trippier, Guimares, and Isak through big contracts. It's all part of it.

raumdeuter:
How does Alli a House f Rep Candidate in Sokoto under APC or Emeka in Abia a House of Assembly candidate campaign for himself when Aba market traders and Sokoto market traders have old notes the bank is not taking and they cannot get new notes

So you tell him this 140K notes with you is as useful as tissue paper

Or the fuel scarcity all over the nation

You think that only affects Tinubu

Are they intending to buy votes?

It not then whatever applies to APC also applies to other parties. But as only APC is complaining we know that their grand plan was to buy votes. Well, Buhari says not this time...

Lush100:
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Pls bruno is 50M.
35M with 15M add on.
Tripper is (never free) 20m. 12M.with add on.
Nick pope is 20M. 10M with add on

Thanks for the correction

OasisX:
They are all from Southern Part, specifically from a particular Region.

Since when APC miscreants started saying bullion vans missed road enter Tinubu house, that's when I stop taking them seriously.

That tweet is all full of mischief.

raumdeuter:
Buhari is following the candidates but his policies are not helping them

Is that hard to understand? But you think this is just about Tinubu

It cannot be against all the candidates as not all of them want to rig. Anything to ensure free and fair elections is against Tinubu. He is the major target not all the candidates.

Jodera:
I remember when some guys here were saying Newcastle were doing well this season because of the investments they have through Arab money while some of us countered that it's just solely because of the coach's quality as most of their quality is on par with the other teams. Arab money never even start to show yet laidat sef.

I wonder why West Ham and Wolves aren't competing for top 4.

I remember even using Wolves example as a club who have been spending heavily for the past few years yet people didn't seem to notice

The bolded is the problem I have with you. Newcastle may not have spent much, but they have acquired players over the past two transfer windows who have helped the cause and most of them are on big wages.

Before you begin to turn amala, know that I have not ruled out the coach's effort which is highly commendable but saying it's solely based on that is cheap talk.

Dan Burn 13m
Matt Target 15m
Bruno Guimares 36m
Alex Isak 63m
Nick Pope 10m
Chris Wood 25m
Sven Botman 35m
Keiran Trippier Free

It is rare for a mid table club to invest such amount and also to attract such calibre of players without paying them high. These guys were direct upgrade of their first team in addition to the likes of Willock, Saint-Maxim, Callum Wilson, Almiron etc.

So while it is clear the work Eddie Howe has done on the team, it will be cheap to say that a good transfer business did not contribute, which is the effect of Arab investment.

BluntTheApostle:
LP can become truly formidable.


But they can't win this election.


It remains between Tinubu and Atiku.

Tinubu and Atiku have their own league. League of failures. Both will be disqualified for corruption, perjury and drug trafficking.

Peter Obi is the sole candidate for 2023 election.

Jodera:
Lol... So you're using stats B to prove our Midfield is not clinical when obviously most of Nketiah's game this season came from Europa teams and cups. Competitions where we fielded our B team shebi? No wonder you tagged it B

How 'wise' it is.!!

There's a big reason I used our first 5 league matches and that's because aside Nketiah for Jesus, all other players are constant(bar one or two changes)

Keep on bringing Europa League and carabao cup where we play with 2nd string teams to push your point.

Continuuu!!

My premise was simple

Games with Jesus
Vs
Games with Nketiah

I am an analyst by training, I cannot give samples that are not valid

Just admit the case is over

raumdeuter:
Buhari is not working against Tinubu

Buhari with his attitude is affecting every APC candidate whether it's Tinubu or Ali in Zungeru or Emeka in Afikpo

How will Bello campaign for house of Assembly in Damaturu under APC when fuel no dey anywhere and their small cash becomes useless next week

When Buhari says he's for no one he meant it in a way. He couldn't even help his loyal Vice win ticket, he couldn't help Amaechi, he couldn't even help his own cousin win APC ticket in his home state of Katsina

Tinubu met with APC candidates all over the country 3 days ago and what feelers do you think they are giving him from their individual campaign whether in Yenagoa or in Dutse

This was not your opinion days ago. You even commented on a picture of Buhari and Tinubu after the Adamawa rally posted by Oasisx.

I don't expect you not to renovate. It's your gift.

raumdeuter:
Moral purity is for churches and mosques. Under the law we deal with what's legal not what's moral. Leave moralty with your Imam and Priest

Marrying 2 wives is despicable to you as a Xtian, to a Moslem its the way to purity

Why can't someone use bullion van to take money to his house? What is excessive in a bullion van? What's the max Naira notes a bullion van van hold. Minus money transfer if you quantify what Obi Cubana and friends who are ordinary citizens spent on his mother's burial it will fill 3 bullion vans

It may not be illegal but it calls for investigation. That's if it's not money laundering.

In America, can someone use bullion van to send money to his house?

Roland17:
No drag my leg come outside. You too like wahala

I dey wait for you

raumdeuter:
If no crime has been committed by having a bullion van in his house then why the wailing

If anyone bullion van is missing they should report to the nearest police station

That there are no legal ropes to tie him doesn't mean he is morally pure.

They know he syphons money from Lagos government ut can't act if Lagos isn't complaining.

The question is WHY would someone use bullion van to take money to his house? Why bullion van (excessive cash).

When I said sometime here that Buhari and some northern governors are working against Tinubu behind the scenes Raundeuter and Larride felt I was joking.

Now even Tinubu has openly accused Buhari everybody come dey see road.


The truth that the north are confused about whether to stay loyal to party and hope Shettima usurps Tinubu or they follow Atiku. But they also don't want Atiku or PDP. But recent events show they prefer Atiku to Tinubu.

raumdeuter:
That man is saying nonsense some people just have the opportunity to get on TV to go embarras themselves
He should just ask

1. what law has been violated by having bullion van come to your house

2. What was the content of the bullion van? How much was in the bullion van?

3. If Tinubu has his bank use bullion van to bring his money to his house then what is wrong with it?

In Nigeria nothing. You can even thief and go free.

That's why we need a cashless economy.

iamoyindamola:
Don't change narrative you claim he rejected their offer whereas the board are the one that snub him

Answer my question. Did Arsenal approach Arteta or not?

A. Yes
B. No

If yes, then why would you snub someone you approached?

If no, then this topic is dead on arrival.

Jodera:
First 5 matches with Jesus (so I won't include Jesus nor defenders goals):

Martinelli (crystal palace)
Xhaka and Martinelli(Leicester)
Odegaard (Bournemouth)
Odegaard (Fulham)
Martinelli ( Aston Villa)

First 5 matches with Nketiah

Saka and Martinelli (West Ham)
Saka, Martinelli and Odegaard (Brighton)
Nil (Newcastle)
Odegaard (Tottenham)
Saka (Man u)

So looking at these stats, you can conveniently say that our attack stopped scoring goals because of Nketiah's presence shebi?

Tuale for you sir!!

Which kind useless stats be this? First five matches kwa? Is that a sample?

Here's stats.

How many goals did Martinelli, Odegaard, Saka, and Xhaka score

A. With Gabriel Jesus
B. With Nketiah

Martinelli.
A....P14 G5 A0.36. B......P10 G2 A0.2

Saka
A.....P14 G5 A0.36. B......P8 G4 A0.5

Odegaard
A.....P13 G6 A0.5. B......P7 G2 A0.2

Xhaka
A.....P14 G3 A0.2. B......P9 G1 A0.1

It's only Saka who plays when with Nketiah and has a very high scoring rate compared to when he plays with Jesus.

iamoyindamola:
Who can confirm this picture, I guess I was wrong when I said we have 7 home matches left
If this picture is true it's shows we have more home games than away which is very good

I pray make God make this season happen for us. Our home fixtures are confirmed 3pts except Man City. The away fixture toomake sense except Liverpool and offcourse Man City. If we can generate 45 more points add the 50 we have already, hope dey. That's win 15 out of the 19.

God abeg, I don suffer too much. Make this year my year of multiple blessings 🙏🏼

I need more people that are technically sound to argue with on this thread.

Roland17 and Jencedyde abeg join the crew.

iamoyindamola:
Lmao
Continue tell me more
So na every one way go interview they get job😂😂

You can't go for an interview in which you weren't invited.

Now answer my own question.

Did Arsenal approach Arteta or not?

Simple and straight forward.

Jodera:
Lol.... I just hope you're not trying to twist it sha

This was our basis

Me: Arsenal creates chances as a team and all our attackers are expected to score as long as chances falls on any of them. That our attackers are scoring doesn't stop Jesus from scoring.
(I proved it with stats and pics)


Spy: Jesus sacrifices himself for the team that's why our attackers are scoring and he doesn't. He involves himself in buildup play which others capitalises on to score whereby he doesn't.


According to our argument, one can deduce the issue here is not about whether Nketiah would outscore Jesus or not (cos I believe he would as long as he converts his chances).

The big Koko is that: is our other attackers still scoring even with the presence of Nketiah just as I said they would?

Yes or no ?

No.

How many goals have Martinelli, Xhaka, Saka scored after the WC compared to when Jesus was playing?

When Jesus was available, the goals were evenly spread (which includes Jesus offcourse). FFS even Xhaka was getting on the score sheets. I said the reason is because Jesus always drops deep to create overloads everywhere on the pitch, and always giving us a man advantage thereby freeing up others to make goal scoring runs. Everyone praised his energy.

I also said if another striker was involved who will not play/sacrifice himself but would focus more on scoring he would score more goals than Jesus.

To prove my analysis I predicted that Nketiah if given the chance would score more goals. It is happening now, I expect you to apologize and appreciate my tactical ingenuity.

Jodera:
Lol .. you just dey turn like barber's chair.
So you didn't even know Valdez was from Barca until I said so??

We're talking about Lvg passing from the back, you said Which keeper he bought and I said Valdez. Now you're still yarning kini kan kini kan again.

I guess Ederson that Pep bought from benfica was "under pep" too


Just accept that you goofed that it was pep who started the principle of passing from the back In England.

That's how someone once said it was Conte who first brought 3 at the back in England too

Off course I knew Valdez was from Barca. But when you mention him in relation to LvG, then you are the one who goofed because LvG never used Valdez. In fact Valdez left frustrated after he refused to play with the reserved team.

YOU GOOFED NOT ME JODERA

By the way, I didn't say Pep introduced passing from the back, I said PASSING FROM THE BACK WITH GOALKEEPER. In other words, using a goalkeeper as sweeper or as part of the build-up.

Make Una try comprehend sometimes.