TheSourcerer: The bible does describe the abode of God us up , Above the clouds , quotes like look up the the lord , ' I made the Earth my footstool ,I am going up to my father to prepare a place , Jesus ascended to heaven , all points the God hiding in the Clouds , he's just playing hide and seek with us ,
Rubbish!
Heaven is the spiritual realm or higher dimension.
If you know your quantum physics you will understand.
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OyigboUpdate: Just the same way Nnamdi Kanu gave the orders for the killing of police and army then DSS started killing their fellow police men. I hear u sir ride on papa
OyigboUpdate: The pastors that were killed after her orders from Italy were they not my brothers to? The travellers killed and burnt to ashes for not sitting at home, were they not my brothers to? The children beaten and stopped from waec English and Neco matchs are they not our children to? The Igbo men who got their keke and buses vandalized some killed were they not our people to?
kokanepyramid: Lol, I don’t even know what we are on anymore, life is too busy to add Arsenal’s wahalla. Since Our matches are no longer source of entertainment to me rather another chore added to my busy schedule.
Fkhalifa: Everything is boring and stinking to me at Arsenal. The January window is a huge testament Arsenal are the same yesterday today and tomorrow. I salute your courage with this FC. Even Jodera has admitted
by Jodera: 8:25pm On Feb 02 Arsenal is a very very Foolish Club!!!
You are the still making the mistake of not differentiating the sequence of play. In all the examples you will give, there will be none where an advantage was given or where a caution was first given before the second foul. None.
Once it's an advantage caused by obstruction, the first foul becomes null and a caution is given for the second foul. If it was a dangerous tackle, no advantage would the given, the ref would stop play and caution the player.
For Jiminez, I have explained it to you before. A caution was first given before the second foul.
Martinelli's red is actually my first time in football (after over 25years) to see a double yellow for whatever reason.
I have seen when a player commits a foul and when the ref blows, he kicks the ball away thereby delaying start of play. Such incidents only attracts a caution. As long as he has not been cautioned before hitting the ball. The ref cannot issue two separate yellow cards against the player.
Roland17: For those who keep saying, "we have never seen it before" please go re-watch Napoli vs Barcelona (UCL), fast forward to the 88th minute and see the ref issue Vidal 2 yellow cards for 2 separate cautionable incidents.
Lol. You are being smart with us na.
Check again, the ref issued the first caution. Vidal then acted aggressively towards the ref that led to the second caution.
My question to you on this incident is had Vidal walked away after the first caution, would he have been issued the sending off?
Roland17: This is why I said read carefully because you are either being disingenuous or failing to understand how the rules were segmented. The second pic covers CAUTIONABLE OFFENSES, ALL CAUTIONABLE OFFENSES. The next section after CAUTIONABLE OFFENSE is CAUTION FOR UNSPORTING BEHAVIOR, which is clearly separated as it's own section.
The first bullet point under cautionable offenses addresses the cautioning of players, the 2nd bullet point addresses substitute or substituted players. The portion, I highlighted, summarized CAUTIONABLE OFFENSES, not necessarily the substitute.
Martinelli had already committed two cautionable offenses under the first bullet points, SEE BULLET POINTS 1 and 4, while Arsenal had persistently committed BULLET POINT 5. There is no rule that obligates the referee to warn a player of a booking before the booking is issued, especially when they play is still active, absolutely none! You are a professional player, you know these things, most especially when we time wasting from the 60th minute and had gotten 3 yellow cards.
Nwanne the example given clearly describes who the rule was meant for. Let's not argue over typed material.
Roland17: You have wrongly interpreted the advantage rule that you have highlighted. The laws clearly states there that "If the referee plays the advantage for an offence for which a caution/sending-off would have been issued had play been stopped, this caution/sending-off must be issued when the ball is next out of play."
The caution for the first incident must be issued when the ball is out of play, not when the play is active, especially not when a 2nd foul and separate foul is committed by the same player. An out of play is different from a dead ball situation, don't mis-construe both to mean the same. The ref did not have to blow to caution, he already knew he was going to caution Martinelli after the pushing incident and the ball was still in play, not dead or even out of play which is as a resulted in the advantage.
Stopping a throw to slow the game and shoving an opponent in itself was already a justifiable red card on Martinelli if Oliver wanted to be rash but he allowed play go on because if he stopped play, Arsenal would have benefited from stopping the quick throw which kills the entire idea of an advantage being played.
Wow! Are you for real?
Please get my point on the advantage rule. Martinelli's push on Podence was to stop a possible chance on goal which didn't work and the ref played the advantage, his second action was similar but he did hinder the move. He was to have been cautioned on the second since the first was just unsporting and not an attempt to injure the player.
At least you now agree that a caution cannot be given for the same event. You are only attempting to make both actions separate events which they are not.
Roland17: Nwanne, you are missing a very critical piece and that is the fact that the play you are calling dead was already active and in play which resulted in the advantage, that is the whole idea of the advantage. A dead ball would not need an advantage and this would be irrelevant. The ball had made it into the pitch before Martinelli made contact with Podence which means it is alive and makes a ton of difference. The throw placed Wolves in a dangerous attacking position. The first foul was not deemed egregious enough to stop the advantage which the rules explains. He did not think the foul was red card worthy, so of course he continues the play.
Then that would be a foul throw check again. Did Martinelli's actions caused a foul throw? Then it should have been stopped and he penalised. If not there was no advantage. The ref goofed both ways. There's no excuse which ever angle you come in.
Lush100: Baba, he fit no gree , Leave the matter. The most important thing is arsenal won. While teams will now be counting for referee how many foul (worthy of a yellow)an opponent has committed. And the ref will be feeling the heat. So relax. It will happen this season with another team and we shall see if 2 yellow card will be dished out Did u see the outcry for arsenal asking to reschedule its game due to covid and injury but no noise was heard when we were just about to play wolves after being on a winning run and beating last opponent Norwich 5-0. Martinelli will be available for wolves and he will be motivated.
By then we shall be counting the fouls for that ref on that day Pls don't be surprised that they will want to card an arsenal player for showing the ref the yellow card offense he is ignoring to give a wolves player. Na here we dey Let it rest. Dey say first to do no dey pain
Thank God say we won, because I for almost go crazy.
Na here we dey. Hope other teams will not complain because na so e dey start.
Roland17: Any wonder why I said your school of thought is short sighted, reactionary and emotional? You are seriously using a Twitter video to make a case. Well, I will use the rules and laws that guide the officiating of the game.
A lack of knowledge of the rules does not absolve you from the crime or the penalty associated with the crime. I have never seen it happen before doesn’t mean the rule doesn’t exist. I am not cut for emotional tantrums filled with subjective interpretations of how incidents should be adjudicated or how the rules of the game should be applied.
According to 2021/2022 IFAB rules, Michael Oliver was 100% correct in issuing 2 cautions to Martinelli. Please see the screen shots and stop the tantrums. You are welcome to visit this website to learn more. We have a serious on field indiscipline issue, the sooner we accept it and try to resolve it, the better.
Nwanne, I have studied the rules like you said and found flaws in your judgement. First you omitted an important clause that led to the pic you posted, next you ignored the actual part that concerns giving advantages and cautions.
The first pic shows that after giving an advantage, the player is only cautioned for one offense even if his tackle was to hinder a goal scoring opportunity.
The second pic shows that the double caution is only meant for substitutes or substituted players and not on field players.
Roland17: Alaye, go and watch replays again, the ball had already been thrown and was on the field before Martinelli made contact with Podence, that is why the advantage was played. It was not a dead ball or out of bound play. The ball had already been thrown before Martinelli made contact.
I thought you just admitted both plays were fouled and card worthy why are we dancing around again?
I think you are alone on this issue in the top class football fans world.
The case is simple,
1. It's unconventional to issue a caution twice. I mean, a caution is caution. It's like a child brings his report card, you see an F in the card, then you said 'dont fail again if you do, I will flog you' then you flog the child. The child asks you why you should flog him after just given a warning, and you say, the warning was for the first subject you failed, the flogging was for the second one. Lol. A caution is meant to deter the player from repeating any offense. It's senseless, I can't even imagine.
2. The throw was already a dead ball situation. If the ref felt, Martinelli obstructed play, then why give an advantage and allow the ball to flow? He should have stopped play, issue the yellow, and let the player repeat the throw. If you give an advantage, then there was no obstruction. This was a dead ball situation. Even if he gave an advantage, he should have cautioned one offense because the rule says a player must first be cautioned before sending off. He gave Martinelli no chance to be cautioned. I mean, this is too simple.