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solomonbrown64:
..... Lol.... you want make Raul kill Emery be that. I think major Pepe's problem has to do with the fullback supporting him, he doesn't have an understanding with his fullback yet. Chambers has recently shown himself to be an awesome fullback when defending but he doesn't attack enough. Whenever Pepe is given the ball, he tends to have two or more players on him. Yes, he has the ability to draw players to himself and there is more than 80% chance he frees himself from those players but the problem is that, who are the players making runs into space that those players on him have vacated. Where is the number 8/10 who should have moved into space and more importantly, where is the overlapping fullback? These players are usually no place to be found which is why Bellerin coming back is very important. He varies with his movements; he can move in to the midfield or he can do the overlap and he does it effortlessly which is why he had six assists I think before his injury

.... Pepe has his issues too but his dribbling and giving away possession will reduce if he has players moving into space and giving him options. He will come good in time but that chemistry can only come about if he is playing in the first team, not with the likes of Balogun and co......

Absolutely spot on.

Pepe can easily pick his man one on one. But when they crowd him up, he would be force to either pass or attempt to dribble all, so most likely to lose the ball. But with rampaging fullbacks overlapping, he has the option to either pass on or use a dummy to open up the opposition defence.

solomonbrown64:
..... No be here person talk say the kid cannot lace the boots of Torreira like Torreira is the second coming of peak Alex Song

...... No be today we dey see funny things for here; my happiness is that the regime and the coach is behind the youngsters and I love seeing them week in week out only getting better.

.... Did you see his assist in the U21
team? .... Lovely pass
....Oh, what Wenger would have done with a player like Matteo..... stuff of dreams but Emery is doing a good job on him. Kudos to the coaching crew to how the youngsters are turning out. Can't wait for next weekend. This break dey vex me jare.

...... COYG!

When people reason like their brains are hidden in their testicles, you can expect such nonsense.

Them full here.

Fkhalifa:
Aubameyang, golden boot last season and most influential player, but there's reason fans voted Laca.
No mind them jare, people waiting for when to celebrate " Guendozi can't make France U21 squad " no deserve attention. Rival fans here self come here dey mock them.

Their mumu don do.

BlueRayDick:
This life ehn. Auba is EPL player of the month, but Guen is Arsenal's player of the month

The thing just be like Dangote being richest man in Africa but some people in Nigeria thinks he's not the richest man in Nigeria

The jury are different. Some look for best performance, some may be interested in best improved like in the case of Guendouzi (I think)

solomonbrown64:
..... .... nah he won't see this one.... he is busy trolling United to see this as good news. He and his sick kick will soon lament about how this happened.... perhaps it was rigged....

They said he was dull, that he recycles possession, that he cannot keep a position.

But we saw his good qualities -his drive, his doggedness, his creativity, his stamina, his game reading, now we are vindicated.

I am sure they will come up with more flimsy excuses. But that will only put them into bigger shame.

COYG

solomonbrown64:
....... Arsenal's player of the month for September

..... Well deserved

Kokaneprodigy won't find this funny. They have just made nonsense of his thoughts.

IZUKWU:
Means to win a match or even draw a match even when you are not playing well.you are just interested in the points not how well,your team will play to win the game.

Smart guy...


This thread is honoured to have you.

iPopAlomo:
Cc: Spy360...

I told you your state of mind is weak... This is the point of argument... Playing shittttt football against Bournemouth.

Not everyone is as slow as you.




If you're still confused about the point of argument... When you get to this point. scroll up

Daftie!!!


Now comparing Bournemouth to Manure...

Manure played boring football and won against Arsenal...

Arsenal played boring football and won against Bourne-fucking-mouth...

I thought it was just one person on the no IQ list turns out there are two.

My IQ just reduced by -5 mentioning your post. I should air you henceforth.

You have made no sense bro.

Now redeem yourself,...

What does it mean to grind out a result?

Don't quote me if you don't know.

iamoyindamola:
He's more of kettle calling pot black

I know say na Wetin you go talk.

BlueRayDick:
Make international break quick go make we see another thing talk about Jàre.

Maybe pepe hat trick

Abi o. From tactical geniuses to grinding machine.


Let's learn to discuss sensibly, after proper research and also let's learn to accept criticism and yapping.

Basically let's have fun.

COYG

iPopAlomo:
Oga... You no wise... And the Arsenal I signed up for should never managed to beat Bournemouth.

I'm sure you're happy they managed to beat Bournemouth... Why... Because you're not ambitious... You're mentality is weak and that's why you see top 4 as an achievement.

You're the sort of person contented with scraps and being stationery at a point.

Newsflash... Not every Arsenal fan is demented or brain handicapped.

Long story short... Arsenal should never struggle to beat the likes of Bournemouth at home.

You have lost the point of argument. Are you demented? It's funny how people claim to be smart but end up exposing their foolishness. I would never have imagined you being so stupid. Once again you disappoint me.

No one is happy when we struggle to beat lowly rated Bournemouth. This is so elementary that it doesn't require a mention.

The point of argument is between winning dirty or playing well and losing. I have brought up scenarios where United won with drab football against an Arsenal side that played so well.

How this is difficult to grasp baffles me. Like I said, it's becoming sickening and nauseating schooling you over and over again. Carry your mumu brain park one side biko.

iPopAlomo:
Arsenal dominated, played their style... lost 2-0 against Manure...

Man shitty dominated played their style, lost 2-0 against wolves...

can you find the words in common...? which of these teams will you compare to Bournemouth... and now that the floor is open for insults... let us begin....

Your line of thought is faulty. You should be thinking in terms of United against Arsenal and Arsenal against Bournemouth.

United adopted a style not their usual to manage to beat Arsenal despite not dominating.

Arsenal adopted a style not their usual to manage to beat Bournemouth despite not dominating.

It's clear you don't reason well.

iPopAlomo:
Everyone and Pundits that have spanned 20 years playing career and fans are saying Emisery used 3 DMs


Spy360 is still arguing that Torreira is an AM...

and Manure won games with one shot on goal then goes up to dig manure with 7 shots on goal...


This guy is a big clown!!!

You silly boy. you quote me out of context. You see your major problem is comprehension issue.

I said Torriera like Ceballos and Ozil have been DEPLOYED in an AM position before. Is that too hard to grasp? Especially when he is the closest thing to a DM in our entire squad.

Man Utd were dominated by Arsenal in that game which the stats proved whether they had 6shots or 1/6 is immaterial.

I know people like you love to drag arguments when you have been found out. I am tired of hiding your stupidity. Good night.

@Ipopalomo

Bros, Arsenal dominated on every stat but still lost 2-0.
United adopted a boring but practical and effective approach. Wenger went for fancy football but left dejected. At the end who fancy football epp?

iamoyindamola:
check it na
He's CM

Yes, but depending on the formation.

iamoyindamola:
Then ceballos, he's not even an AM

Lol!
What is he?

iPopAlomo:
With 7 defenders.... did manure have 1 shot on goalllll??

Torreira... AM... I give up....

Chai! I take Amadioha beg you, reason well.

He used 7 defenders which is not conventional but he still won. That's what's called grinding out Mr man.

Torriera recently has been deployed in an attacking role. That doesn't necessarily mean he is an AM. Chambers has been playing RB, but he isn't one. Auba has been deployed to RW several times, he isn't one; surely you no know ball and I'm very disappointed in you.

Emery's notoriety is making you lose your sense. Please don't.

iPopAlomo:
What is our usual approach... It seems you like contradicting yourself... Did we try our usual approach and fail before we resulted to Grinders football...?!! Please what approach are you expecting when you use three DMs in a match...? Attacking Football or Grinding Football?!!

that's a simple question you'll not answer....



Maybe you don't understand football... If you're grinding for a win with one shot on goal vs Bournemouth and Bournemouth has 10 shots on goal... On paper and in real life... Only one team is playing and the other is scrapping.

Now, is our usual approach towards matches fluid football which was synonymous to why i became an arsenal fan or grinding football... One reason I've always hated that Emisery even before he became an Arsenal coach

I pulled up stats of Liverpool while one slow individual said Liverpool was grinding result.

If you dont know... Know this now... Grinding results is winning 1-0 while firing 10 shots on target... why do you think people turned on Wenger... chances after chances are created and nobody takes them... the term... grind the result out.



As much as i really hate to do this... I'll have to call Lana1 on this discussion... Manure never won a game at OT with one shot on target... NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! throughout 90 mins while Ferguson was in charge.

Man city didn't lose to wolves with one shot on target... lets not be unfortunate and start padding figures. Both goals from Wolves came from exquisite counter attack.



If Arsenal vs Bournemouth is winning dirty or the draw vs manure is winning dirty...

You sir... You're DELUDED.



Classic Shit post... trashed...

I have always been attracted to your angry demeanor when posting. So I choose not to insult you back.

But if there is any delusion it's in your comprehension. You quoted this...

when their usual approach isn't working or when their regular players are not available.

But sadly enough, you picked only the first line and left the second. I am hugely disappointed in you Alomo. You shouldn't come out this stupid na.

Besides Emery has always deployed a AM, even if it means playing someone out of position. He has used Ceballos, Ozil, and even Torriera. Only on two occasions he didn't funny enough that was against Man Utd and Bournemouth, the same matches we showed that he 'grinded out'. But you failed to acknowledge. And you dey claim say you know ball? Wow!

And listen, if a team puts out 10shots on target you shouldn't call that 'grinding out' that pure attacking football. And that's not what happened Vs BM.

Please call Lana1 let him school you about Ferguson's Man Utd. I only pity how your stupidity would be exposed. Because Ferdie once beat Arsenal in an FA cup quarter finals using 7, yes SEVEN defenders.

You just fooled yourself Mr Alomo.

This article just pulled the discussion on this thread. Check it out.

https://paininthearsenal.com/2019/10/08/arsenal-results-vs-performances-dilemma/

Fkhalifa:


Let me give you their rebuttals,

" You don't grind out results against Aston villa and Bournemouth, we are Arsenal, we have pepe and Aubameyang, every team should bow at our feet, We have a top class team that should be competing with Liverpool and City.

Also, it is important we have shots on and off goal, and concede little or no shots and corners irrespective of result/outcome of the game..

Wenger is a better manager, he entertains us, we might be losing 1-0, 2-1 to likes of Blackburn, Stoke and QPR, but you see positive football

Lastly, Emery should be sacked asap, bring in Mourinho,Benitez or Allegri, they will give us good football and trophies with this set of players."

I hope it is clear.

Lmao

Thanks for bringing it up before dem come spoil my mood. No need to answer dem then.

iPopAlomo:
Since Solo decided to not answer this question, I'll ask your boss spy360 the same question...

What exactly is grinding out result...?

What exactly is grinding out results at home to Bournemouth...

Winning 1-0 with 1 shot on goal at the Emirates to Bournemouth .

or winning 1-0 with 10 shots on goal at the emirates to Bournemouth

That's 2 scenerios up there...

Please pick 1.

...the flow.

Grinding out a result is a football technical term used when a team decides to adopt a practical but non conventional tactics to win a match when their usual approach isn't working or when their regular players are not available.

From here it's seen that it's against weaker oppositions that you grind out a result. You don't say you grind out a result when you play Liverpool they are superior side for now at least. But when it's against weaker teams like the case of Bournemouth that the term is rightly used. So whether it's one shot on goal or ten, it's immaterial as long as you manage to secure a win. In grinding out a result, winning is more important than play.

The Man United teams of the Ferguson era were very good at it unlike their Arsenal counterparts. They know how to nick 3pts against stubborn oppositions when they discover that their exciting play isn't going to yield the desired points. But you see Arsenal after playing so well with exciting patterns still end up losing, something similar to what happened to Man City against Wolves.

Now some fans see their boring play and criticize it, but the manager (and players as well) know that for them to garner to points, they have to play dirty.

If this epistle is not enough to give you guys understanding, then it's a pity. I can't help your ignorance further.

Thanks.

Dreamswayne:
For those criticising the grinding results shit, I am up for grinding results for now but we can't keep grinding results till the end of the season...



We have to improve!




Imagine having just an attempt on target against Bournemouth at the Emirates...

Talking about grinning results, obviously we are yet to come to grips with the connotative meaning of the term.

Dreamswayne:
You would be greatly disappointed if you think Tierney and Hector will let us play good football...



This is not a personnel problem but a tactical problem, Emery is trying not to lose first before thinking of winning...



As far as he keeps on selecting this plodders in our midfield, Pepe will keep on struggling... No one to link up play with or perform one touch pass with... Once Pepe gets the ball, he is isolated with 3 markers on his tail...






The warning signs are there for all to see, once the form drops, we will lose a lot while not being able to create anything...




#EmeryOut

You talk as if we can be better than our current position. #fact101

The two teams ahead of us are far better in every way including their managers. Yet Emery hasn't played his best team. The only loss we have had so far this season is against the European champions- Liverpool who have won every single PL game. Man City has lost to Wolves and Crystal Palace. If that is not enough for Emery to convince you to stay on till end of season then I am sorry.

BlueRayDick:
@ Solomonbrown This is exactly what I was trying to to make u see all day.

Playing 3 midfielders who are not natural creative midfielders against man utd is something mourinho would not do sef. At least ceballos or ozil should be infused into the team to supply Auba or any of the front 3. The shouldn't be feeding on scrap.

This article is apt and clearly describes the problem with the team.

His "safety- first" approach against a united team that was there for the taking.

I guess no one on this thread approves of Emery's defensive approach. What Solo us saying is that he can't be sacked now by any board, because he is 3rd not 13th.

iamoyindamola:
dumbass it's "an" not and
Professor!!!

I know that if I tell you it was a typographical error, you would not even understand and worse still you will use 'typographical error' to defend your stupid write-ups.

Some mumu even dey mention grinding machine.

BlueRayDick:
There was nowhere I insinuated Niles being red carded was on emery. You are trying to quote me out of context.

Arsenal should not be grinding out result against a newly promoted Aston Villa at home, even to the extent of getting red carded.

The point up there is clear enough. Arsenal shouldn't be so poor to the extent of committing needless fouls and having a player sent off against Aston Villa. At least not when we have superior fire power. We all accept we are not always at our best defensively so it is only wise we go all in with our area of strength(attack): score goals early and not be recycling possession.

The so called "Grinding out result" that you so much celebrate Emery for is only due to his wrong team selection and conservative approach when he should be firing on all cylinders. I ask you, of what use is fielding Auba, Pepe and laca/Saka upfront when you will only play 3 DM's behind them ? Does it make any sense ? Even the shitty manure utd that knew how deadly our attackers can be still set up their team to attack us rather than wait cowardly for us to take the game to them.

You may keep coming up with excuses upon excuses as to why we have a team without pattern playing drab football, struggling against teams in the second part of the table and being forced to defend against watford that has never won this season, but the fact remains Emery is busy doing nothing to improve the lot of this team.

For 4ck sake ! Watford has only scored 4 goals this season and two of those were agsinst Arsenal. How do u people sleep with stats like this staring u in the face and u still say we are happy we grind out a point from this game .

You obviously don't know what the term ''grinding out result'' means. That's exactly the problem with this thread. Someone uses and expression, people won't first try to understand it but start spilling rubbish. Mtchew!

BlueRayDick:
Are u for real?

Wait why do u think we struggled against Bournemouth?

Indulge me please.

Please I will like you to focus on the point of argument.
It's a comparison between Frankfurt and B'Mouth which was more difficult to beat. The fact that BM is PL compounds everything.

Fkhalifa made a valid point when he said Spurs knocked out Man City from CL.
City would have probably preferred a non PL side. It's that simple.

Fkhalifa:
I watch nearly all our games and you don't, my not wanting to meet an English side in Europe is not because we are shitty or low in mentality, rather as a result of high competition in the league atm
4 English sides reaching finals in Europe is a testament..

City got eliminated 2ce from UCL by Liverpool & Spurs, do you think Pep will like to face an English side in knockout stage?

None of our rivals could also wants to play us,

Yes I said we could have trashed Frankfurt instead of a Chelsea,I'm sure Chelsea also prefer Valencia to us.

Bros some people don't have practical sense. With faulty education everything becomes theoretical.

Personally I'd rather face a non English side in a European final. For some others it may be different.

We trashed Frankfurt 0-3 away with kids, but struggle to beat Bournemouth at home. It's common sense really to know that familiarity makes things more difficult. But then common sense is not really common.

kodded:
no matter how shitty man city might look, unai emery will still play 3 CDM, and will allow man city to finish us with shot

We must understand something.

The reason Ferguson won so many PL titles was not because his teams always play well but because they could grind out results. That's the problem with this Pep team. You can't always play good football, sometimes you play badly and sometimes the good play won't work. You could win 8-0 today and lose 0-1 tomorrow. It's the ability to grind out results when the bad day comes that makes you win consistently.

Today as against Man Utd we played badly, but you can't take away the fact that we got a point at Old Trafford and three points yesterday which has actually moved us to 3rd a point behind Pep's Man City.

At this rate despite how bad Emery is as a coach, you can't sack him. He hasn't even fielded his best squad yet, so his argument remains valid.

I don't like Emery one bit, but for now I can't fault him, and as a fan I can only wish him the best.

I am not among the silly lots that take things sentimentally, I am a facts person, a scientist to the core.

Only fools argue with sentiments.

iPopAlomo:
Bro... The only reason we dey at least see draw is cos of Guen... Xhaka alone is a disaster.

Now this is the midfield koko, Guendouzi puts in a MOTM performance but is still blamed just because he was playing along side a disastrous Xhaka. Nawa for thinking.

I wish Shitty would be this shitt whenever we meet them. Home loss.