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paulolee:
business deal gone wrong....I see no reason why she would grant interview wen others are not free yet..
I also dnt understand d state government saying he wont pay and also doing nothing about it or is it until dey gets killed??
its very wrong for government or president to negatiate or pay bandits to free a kidnapped citizen but if its ur family or friends involved, you would be praying each day for govt to make dt call..
thats life...

The governor is trying to practice the “no negotiation with terrorist laws tactics” but what he fails to understand is that he is practicing it on a failed foundation, Nigerian didn’t start out like that so why does he now want to use the life of innocent student as a foundation.

Moreso this criminal knows us too well, and this one we are doing na shakara. I will believe any governor who employs the tactics when one of his children are among the victims

DIVINEEVIDENCE:
Scientific laws are propounded within the context of Ideal Conditions.
We all know ideal conditions don't exist.

So, whatcha ya sayin?

Ideal conditions do exist but not all the time.
Scientific laws do mention their context.

But Okafor laws didn’t mention his own context. If he has done so then it would be much more better

Moreso it has no scientific literature nor research to back it up.

So that is what I am saying.

dvkot:
if my daughter post such video.. I'll panel beat her but the only difference is that i wont post it online

That video was graphic and the act is condemnable. If a mature women wants to live her life as such then how will this vile treatment change who she is?

IceDune:
Whether you agree or disagree with stereotypes, they exist, guide and shape the way people think and how they relate with one another.

For example, there is the widespread belief that wives are better at managing family funds than men, it is also believed that women are terrible at apologizing for their mistakes and f--k ups in relationships and marriages.

And then there is the belief that if you sleep with a girl once and you do it properly, she somehow becomes too weak to say no to you from that moment onwards.

I've tried it out twice and it worked out for me. My question is; is Okafor's law really true or was I just lucky twice?

If placed in the right context it works and since it is based on context then it seize to be a law

frank417:
Hi all, I'm about to pay N100k to a firm to be thought programming(full stack). Is it a good deal?

Thank you.

Basic programming yes.
For to be industry ready you need time, dedication, upkeep money and maintenance money, practice and dedication.

300whitewolves:
Sometimes men are faced with a difficult situation of forgiving their girlfriends after they might have cheated. But there is another thing that is common among ladies of nowadays, " sending nudes". If as a guy you get to know that your girlfriend sent her nudes to another guy what will you do ?.

and what will my forgiveness do? Reverse the nude pics or Prevent her from sending another one? Abeg ask better question

derecho:
I asked if you know who a Christian is? Not sure you answered.
A Christian is one who is first a child of God then represents God anywhere he/she is.
" As many that are led by the Spirit, they are the sons of God "
I know you are thinking there is a demarcation between the life of a Christian outside Church and in Church.Unfortunately, no.
Even when a Christian is singing those nursery rhymes, which you think is secular, because Jesus isn't mentioned, he renders it to the Lord.
I wish I can explain somethings to you but if you aren't spiritual, you can't discern them.
Is Worship spiritual?
Do you know, Worship is everything a Christian does whether they look spiritual or not.It is his lifestyle.

The secular tag in this discuss came about because you claimed There was nothing wrong with Chidimma's former songs and why the fuss about her change.
Here, broadly speaking for a Christian, music is either Gospel or Secular. Chidimma understands this hence the change to encapsulate her new identity.

Summary,
Whatever a Christian does he does for the glory of God not just for fun.True Christians are deliberate bro

omo you’re good with word twisting but not for me .

Even nursery school rhyme is rendered to the lord. I hail you baba o. King of contraction. Small kids simply singing are rendering it to the lord as per worship being an act about all things you do abi?

But when it comes to “broadly speaking“ scenario music is now a black or white.
And It is not possible to sing the secular song in a way to worship the lord.

Infact this double standard is the highest at it peak and I greet you highly for taking a hard time to confuse yourself.

And by implications from your word it means people like Asa who sang song about economic issues and social issue is likely to go hell if she does not repent. Probably by your standard of Christianity she shouldn’t have sang those song then

derecho:
I guess You know what we are talking about but if you don't know, just indicate. Cos the way you are going, you'll soon call your mother tongue secular.

that is what you’re about to do. For your info here is the definition of secular.

Secular not connected with religious or spiritual matters.
e.g "secular buildings”
Oxford English Dictionary

So by this definition even buildings can be secular too. So let me ask the question properly,

should secular songs be condemned among Christians (I am asking you based on your biblical knowledge and not your personal opinion)

This too shall pass away

achorladey:
When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!” 17 His disciples remembered that it is written: “Zeal for your house will consume me.”[c](U)


I am wondering why Jesus didn't use the SIT DOWN LOOK APPROACH HERE and fold his arms when they turned his father's house into market?

Is Jesus self defending his father's house?

I am on same side with you but you see some of our Christain brothers and sister have been misled Infact they are part of the reason why a lot of evil abound in this world

derecho:
Not my opinion BUT what it is. I hope you know who a Christian is anyways.
It's not even debatable especially if you know the gift is to glorify God and draw men to God.

in other words singing secular music is a sin right?
And secular song should be condemn in the Christain society?

I hope you know black black ship of nursery rhymes is a secular school song?

Believersgist:
Ask yourself first, if fighting back aligns with the scripture or have you seen anywhere Jesus slap someone back in the scripture?

So should be allow the hoodlums get their way?

Kobojunkie:
I was using the bible to "defend myself"? Lol....

Like I have said severally on this, topic is on what sin is. If you choose to live in sin,you don't do so against me but instead against God. I shouldn't even be your concern even though you keep pretending that I should somehow be .

You quoted this word. From where exactly, Haba don’t resort to this na. Did I ever write anyone like “myself”? Haba

And again you silently dodged all my questions, smart move but not so smart.

Pepecushy:
is she beautiful than the one below

this wan nor fine na. I’m sure khd9.5 own is prettier based on how he describe her.

derecho:
In the first place, nobody asked her to add "Minister" to her name.
She grew up in the church and she knew what you are calling "good" is not what she should be doing as a gospel artiste.If you like, what she did is what they call rebranding.
I love the Yoruba interpretation for repentance. It means turning around after thinking deeply.
Chidimma and her advisors know what they are doing bro.
The rebranding is the first step to accepting that she wants to do gospels.Thereafter, the listening public will scrutinize her new life...What people overlook in secular artistes won't be tolorated.

In your opinion Christians should not sing secular music ?

Kobojunkie:
1) I don't even understand why you would assume the perspective there since I never conversed with you about my personal views on anything so far.

2) I am not Jesus Christ, nor am I God. God made the law and those of us who are His followers are expected to obey Him, it is that simple.

3) Again, according to Jesus Christ, those who are fit for His Heaven are those who love and obey His commandments.

It seems you have run away o.
I thought you were using the Bible to defend your point.

More questions came and you revert to me asking for your personal opinion. Infact who are you that I should ask for your opinion. I am ni stead asking for your opinion as a Christian, so I was expecting you back it up with some biblical references. Don’t fail now when you’re needed. It could help me

derecho:
The word "Minister" presupposes that you are to preach, in her case through music, to others.Good is subjective bro.
By the way "good" doesn't mean godly.
Concerning her closet,as a minister, she can't afford to live anyhow. This isn't showbiz or mere entertainment.

Your cloth ain’t Godly,
Your food ain’t Godly,
Your house ain’t Godly,
Infact many things we create and make everyday ain’t Godly. So where is the repentance now ?
If so na every body go dey do repentance.

If she want to sing as a minister now then fine. But where people now start attaching repentance to change of music type is where confusion start.

Kobojunkie:
1) I don't even understand why you would assume the perspective there since I never conversed with you about my personal views on anything so far.

2) I am not Jesus Christ, nor am I God that you would attempt to claim His Words to my person. God made the law and those of us who are His followers are expected to obey Him, it is that simple.

3) Again, according to Jesus Christ, those who are fit for His Heaven are those who love and obey His commandments.

I showed it to someone and we laughed hard. You’re simply hiding and avoiding the question.

Ok one more question. When society are under attack what should be the place of a Christian asin like what should a Christian person do at those moment?.

I anticipate your avoidance strategy but you can prove me wrong

Kobojunkie:
1) There is no such thing as a "Christian" Nation - such a thing does not exist! Why? Again.... Jesus Christ is an agreement between God and individuals, not Nations or even groups.

2) You are called to accept and obey Jesus Christ regardless of what any other human being does or believes.

3) According to Jesus Christ those who love Him are those who submit to and obey His teachings and commandments.

Ok sorry for misunderstanding.

From your perspective.
1. Military is wrong and so as policing.
2. Defending hoodlums and criminals is wrong instead we are to allow them do what they want.
3. We should not bear arm to protect ourselves nor family instead pray/run/watch when family are being attacked before your eye.

Ok so my question is that would soldiers and police make heaven especially when killed in the act of national defense.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ, the Law of the Kingdom of God, is not an agreement between God and Nations. No, Jesus Christ is an agreement between God and individuals - not groups or militaries even.

The teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ are meant for those who will choose to submit to and obey His teachings and commandments, not those whose hearts and heads remain bound to this world.

Ok I have asked two questions and here are your deduced answer

You would never bear arm to protect your family or immediate family if they are attacked.

Nations should not use military and policing against criminals

Ok my next question, would soliders and police go to hell?

Kobojunkie:
You see, I don't "interpret" what I read in the Bible.

Nowhere in the Bible are you asked to "interpret" anything of what is written. The words in the book are written by humans in human languages and meant to be read and comprehended using basic human language comprehension skills which any human who speaks at least one human language possesses.

I am afraid your families are earthly treasures that Jesus Christ calls you to be willing to hate if you want to be worthy of Him. Luke 14 vs 25-27. Only those who believe in Jesus Christ have eternal life and even then that eternity can be spent by some in Hell and others in Heaven.

However, Jesus Christ calls you to die to self, take up your cross(not your mother's or father's or wife's or child's cross- just your own) if you want to be worthy of Him.

I didn't change context... I simply tried to show you how it is erroneous to pick a verse out-of-context to make it mean what it really doesn't. Luke 11 vs 14-23 is the context which holds the meaning to that one verse you tried to pull out-of-context earlier.

Let me make the iron hotter.
In your candid opinion, if you were to give an advice.
Would you tell a Christian country such as Israel to disarm their military section?
Also country like Italy should they disarm their police and military unit?

Honest opinion

Kobojunkie:
If you considered that same verse in the context it is given you, Luke 11 vs 14 -23, you will find that Jesus Christ was not in any way telling you to guard your house but simply using an analogy there to explain an idea unrelated to this topic.

Please and please don’t blasphemy and misinterpret the Bible?

Your family are not earthly treasures, you family are eternal beings who should live and grow. Well maybe your own family are earthly treasures.

Mine are not. My family and I are Christian here on earth so after here we will remain family eternally.

And don’t change Bible context, the wordings are clear. Very pathetic you’re not living your full potential, Break free from some limitations christ never placed in you.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ is the author/foundation of your CHRISTIAN-ITY, is He not?

4. Luke 11:21 “When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed.

I need your exposition on this verse.
Don’t use your avoidance strategy, the verse is very clear

Kobojunkie:
The topic asks "It is a sin...?" So why are you, after falling for show that isn't suddenly interested in what I would do if attacked?
Am I some sort of arbiter where this particular sin is concerned?

Hmmm haahhaah .
Abegi, ordinary simple question you can’t answer.

Catch 22 situations. God like I said is not the author of confusion.


Nowhere in Scripture does it say that Christians can’t protect themselves or their family. What we should never do though is seek revenge. We must be slow to anger and handle all situations with wisdom. Here are a few examples. If someone breaks into your house at nighttime you don’t know if that person is armed or what they came to do. If you happen to shoot him you are not guilty. If that person breaks into your house in the daytime and sees you and starts to run, if out of anger you run after him and shoot him you are guilty and in Florida this is against the law.


Wisdom of God be with you


4. Luke 11:21 “When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed.

Kobojunkie:
The topic asks "It is a sin...?" So why are you, after falling for show that isn't suddenly interested in what I would do if attacked?
Am I some sort of arbiter where this particular sin is concerned?

Hmmm haahhaah .
Abegi, ordinary simple question you can’t answer.

Catch 22 situations. God like I said is not the author of confusion.


Nowhere in Scripture does it say that Christians can’t protect themselves or their family. What we should never do though is seek revenge. We must be slow to anger and handle all situations with wisdom. Here are a few examples. If someone breaks into your house at nighttime you don’t know if that person is armed or what they came to do. If you happen to shoot him you are not guilty. If that person breaks into your house in the daytime and sees you and starts to run, if out of anger you run after him and shoot him you are guilty and in Florida this is against the law.


Wisdom of God be with you

derecho:
So why is she calling herself "Minister"? You think you know her better than herself?
Make una dey relax small abeg

What ever she does in the closet is her business. Also she can judge herself it is her problem.
What I was saying is that her non ministration songs had good content. I don’t see the angle where repentance now falls in because you want to turn to a minister.
Will the being a minister now change her?

Kobojunkie:
Religious degradation? The Truth of Jesus Christ has been available to the world for almost 2000 years before you showed up in this world and wil be here after you are gone, so there is no issue of degradation, even if of the religious kind, going on here.

The same Jesus Christ declared to you that if you wish to become worthy of Him, you have to deny yourself, hate father, mother, wife, children, etc. ,to take up your own cross and so that. He also told you that if you wish to have a part in Him, you have to let go of your treasures here on earth - sell it all and give it all away - if you want a part in His Heaven because, again,
according to Him, where your treasure is is where your heart is .

So, again, this isn't a case of "religious" degradation but simply a case of you being ignorant of the teachings of Jesus Christ, teachings that I am certain you have for a while carried around with you thinking you had it all wrapped around your finger.

Jesus Christ is God's Law to you and clearly the Law declares it is a sin to defend yourself against your enemy. The Law , Jessus Christ , goes as far as to command that you love your enemies and pray for, not against, them. With that, He more than cinched His point that you are not to fight back at all.

Stephen is an example of one of the early Christians who died without a fight. He was condemned by His enemies , and rather than fight back, Stephen stood and preached to them of Jesus Christ, eventually praying for his enemies before he then died.

It isn't important whether I will defend my family or not, what is more important to you should be whether you will chose to obey God or reject God and protect the treasures of this world even in this. My answer is of no consequence to you and the fate of your soul.

Jesus Christ said those who love Him aren't those who say with their mouth that they do but instead those who obey His teachings and commandments. You decide whether Jesus Christ is good enough for you.

Don’t play smart, just simply answer my question.
Would you pick a weapon in ready to stop hoodlum assault on your family or you would let them have their way into your family as the Op case during the end sars era as no police were around to protect. Answer and don’t avoid it

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid the confusion here is from you thinking that your idea and opinions should matter where it concerns God's Law to you as far as His Kingdom is concerned.

Jesus Christ did not tell you to search Exodus or any of the Old Covenant for His teachings. He said He came with a yoke and burden that is for His Kingdom and He is the only way,Truth and Life where His Kingdom is concerned.

Take time to learn what it is that Jesus Christ calls you to do verses what you believe should make sense to you instead... God demands submission and obedience from everyone who will be a part of His Kingdom and He will not lower His standards because you feel your life and treasures here on earth are too precious for you to loose on His behalf.

This is religious degradation at its core. You are not worshiping Christ. No give me an answer. Would you be ready to defend your family against security threat or let the hoodlums come in to your house and cause mayhem to your wife and children as of the Op case. If your answer is yes then I have no argument with you

Kobojunkie:
So, the following is not Jesus Christ's direct command to you not to defend yourself?


As for what Jesus said in Luke 22, try reading the same verses in context and the come back and tell me how what the message that Jesus Christ related in that passage- Luke 22 vs 31 - 51 - in anyway mirrors the claim you made above.

Christ is not the author of confusion, So if a killer enter your home, he should be allowed unchecked to raped your kids and kill your wife including you?
Definitely not and God being high and mighty cannot operate in such confused state

Exodus 22:2 and 3 we have a clear reference to self-defense: “If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed. If the sun has risen on him, there shall be guilt for his bloodshed.”

God in Old Testament is still same God of New Testament and did not change, the intent was clearly mentioned and every man under the sun has the fundamental right to protect and defend his like.

The chapter your reference was taking about people who went on to preach the word and are persecuted. I pray you get the understanding

Dalil8:
Following in the footsteps of MacKenzie

She's about to get a whole lot richer

Multi Billion $$ Divorce.

I still don't understand why people like Bill Gates, Elon Musk are getting married at all.

do you ever understand anything at all?
To you live is 2 by 2 and 3 by 3.

In everything the only thing you saw is she going away with some billions, nothing else

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid you are mistaking Man's laws for God's laws.

According to Jesus Christ, you are commanded to love your neighbor and your enemy as you love your own self. Disobedience is what constitutes sin against God.

The same Jesus Christ went on to give you direct orders against defending yourself when attacked by an enemy, instructing you instead to submit to the attack - turn the other cheek - implying that in that case, you ought to love your enemy even more than you love you own life. Any action that stands contrary to this is what constitutes sin.

At no point in time Jesus command his children against defending thyself. Becareful, Christ was only talking to those who want to fight or defend the ministry. If you’re persecuted for preaching the word and then prosecuted then Ieave the battle to God and he would defend his workers. Please get the context clear
Jesus forbid Peter from defending him simply because Jesus was on a journey of prophecy and more so the persecution was based on the ministry.


In Luke 22:36, Jesus tells His remaining disciples, “If you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.” Jesus knew that now was the time when His followers would be threatened, and He upheld their right to self-defense. Just a short time later, Jesus is arrested, and Peter takes a sword and cuts off someone’s ear. Jesus rebukes Peter for that act (verses 49–51).