₦airaland Forum

Bialegend:
Mugu, there is nothing for any sane human to understand in a mediocre system of education that can't get our Igbo children anywhere in the ever increasing competitive world of science and technology. We do not want children whom our children are better than educationally and are not eager to seek for any improvement in one class room with our children cause there is nothing our children can learn from those imbeciles. We need high rigorous and hign demanding system of education for our children like it's obtained in the developed world and be able to open the future doors of success for our children to be able to compete with others from the developed world. Nama get this simple facts into your thick skull.

Must you always insult in a debate?

Good mindset about your Igbo mentality, it is admirable and evident in the cut off marks. The very reason why you have to compete more among yourselves to fill up just your own state quotas.

However, you cannot spill over into the quota of another state. It is their guaranteed quota not yours.

If you feel unchallenged by the academically poor Northerners, then simply apply to private schools were admission is strictly by merit and you get academic competition for a hefty sum.

The unity schools do not even constitute 1% of secondary schools in Nigeria, so why the cry as if the high scoring states end up having most of their teenagers out of school just to accommodate poor Yobe?

Lots of schools abound the nation, must we all get into the subsidised federal government operated schools where the rules have been designed to be fair to all with state quotas?

adconline:
Your analysis is the opposite of objectivity. You are saying that someone with 20-pt score can perform at the same level as someone with 90-pt?
"If winning isn't everything, then why do they keep score?" Vince Lombardi

Please refer to my quote of your previous remark.

Your mistake is to even think the admission policy is tilted towards merit as opposed to heterogeneity.

adconline:
Only willfully ignorant would believe that a student with 2 points and another with 139 points are at par intellectually.. Student with 2 points turns out to be a banker, lawyer, doctor and engineer- she/he is going to screw things up while the student with 139 pts is going to likely be an exceptional student/worker with less supervision.. Maybe that's why Naija is a jungle.

Nobody said they're at par intellectually.

The schools are not the regular academic institutions. Anyone who feels slighted can apply to a regular school where merit is the priority, and fees are equally of high merit.

The only reason we are having this debate is because many do not know why the unity schools were set up and what the admission policy is.

Also, most do not even understand that cut off marks are only released as a result of scores awarded to candidates after sitting for the entrance examinations.

It is a good thing that Anambra scores high, hence a high cut off mark to fill up its own quota. It is a sorry case that Yobe scores low and with even very low applications, its cut off mark will be very low.
However, it is only your business how you populate your own state quota/slots, not with how others populate their state quota.

The competition for admission is strictly with your own state peers to fill up your state's quota.

I can guarantee you that the students with 2points if well educated in the secondary school will have a chance to improve, else they don't even graduate from secondary school eventually - something very common in the 1990s amongst Northerners in schools like Queens College Yaba.

melzabull:
^Well said Bialegend.


Yelloba slave, keep ranting senselessly

You are the one ranting since you do not even understand the system you are criticising, and it is of no effect to the reality of what is an established system in a federal government institution.

I hope I have managed to enlighten your dark path, and set you on the road to objective analysis.

CSTR2:
You don't see anything wrong with a cut-off mark of 2 and 3, when others have as high as 139 in the same country?

I don't see anything wrong especially since they are only filling up their OWN quota in federal government owned institutions.

Have they deprived your state if its own quota? What is your concern with how the disadvantaged states fill up a quota that is theirs?

Let the high scoring candidates from Anambra and elsewhere who do not measure up amongst their own seek admission into a regular institution where education is not cheap, but is on merit.

melzabull:
Typical yolobaa slave who never sees anything wrong with what his slave masters awusa/Fulani does.


Big FOOOOL!

Keep on crying about Hausa/Fulani. Secondly, I don't know of a yolobaa tribe. I'm Yoruba.

Judging by your spelling, you certainly are a disgrace to any school that chose to give you an admission.

Fill up your guaranteed quota with good high scores and let the disadvantaged states fill up their own quota with poor low scores.

Nobody is cheating the other, you are entitled to only your quota as long as it is operated by the federal government who set it up for the goal of unity, and who also heavily subsidise it.

If you want merit only, apply to private schools where you actually pay the true worth of the value you get to receive.

CSTR2:
There is something wrong with you just like most Nigerians.
Why not reduce the cut-offs to 0 in the name of unity schools?
And some nitwits will start boring us on how Nigeria is the phantom giant of africa.
yeye.

Do you understand that it is set up for the sole purpose of unifying nigerian teenage students and it is heavily subsidised for that purpose?

Do you understand that no state is cheated by ensuring each state fills up its quota only?

Do you understand that the scores from the individual state's candidates determine what score is set as the cut off to fill only that state's quota?

Why the cry about how the Yobe or Zamfara state fill up its quota? What is your business with their state quota and how it is filled up, which is already guaranteed?

Are there no non-subsidised private schools to apply to, who have no business with quota, but only rely on best scores?

meccuno:
I think you are very dum.b for this statement.......and that's me being polite.....why don't you make your child become an indegene of yobe state to make it easy for u? And you claim to be educated but you make statements that show how low your I.Q is and your ways of reasoning must you justify stvpidity because you are an idio.tic bigot?

You are the stupid one whose judgement has been beclouded by sentiments.

For your information, in my own time, I was denied admission into an FGC (unity school) with a score that would guarantee a Northerner admission into any unity school of choice. This was because my state had filled up its own quota.

Ignoramus like you do not know that quota is quota, and it informs what the cut of mark will be. The number of candidates who fill up that quota automatically sets the cut off mark for that state.

Do you deny that it is a unity school system which was set up to bring diverse Nigerians together in heavily subsidised academic institutions?
If not, why the cries?

State government owned schools are available which also practise their own version of quota, first as a state indigene priority and secondly ensuring fair local government spread among the indigenous applicants.

Any one who wants to be treated as a merit student should apply to a private institution where there is no quota system, and sadly no subsidised education.

The North entertained religious intolerance and propagated hate and violence.

The same religious intolerance has now consumed a large section of the North, turning it to a waste land.

Chickens coming home to roost.

dele1727:
...this is not about hating igbos, it is about fact,why are you so self conscious? you shit for body ni? the op did not mention igbo in his thread yet you are having headache, if he now calls your tribe unko. will you have convulsion? inferiority complex at it peak.

Inferiority indeed.

Very possible.

It is a government subsidized unity school system, not a merit based system.

Let Anambra fill up its allotted quota with 139, while Yobe fills up its own allotted quota too with 2. No state will deprive the other of its own quota.

Very fair and just where merit is not the primary consideration but the intended unity for which such schools were established.

EMANY01:
I made this post on a different thread and i will say it again:

I like the protocol that the Niger delta activists have adopted beginning their agitation with an IMPASSIONED REASONABLE NON-THREATENING FACTUAL AND INTELLECTUAL manner.

The world needs to see that this is our first recourse in pursuing this matter .
The south west with its now arrogant control of most of the news outlets and multi media platforms would have loved the struggle to begin right out of the gate with violence then they would spin the story to all the world to support their long running narrative that multinational investments of any kind is only logical safe and guaranteed in the south west.

I can almost guarantee now that the next card they will play is to spin up disagreements between the different subgroups within the Niger Delta as to who gets what then spinning the story that internal struggles within various groups within the NG makes the entire location nonviable for investments.

Any South South or South East person who does not see the entrenched INSTITUTIONAL DUPLICITY of the south west by now is much more of a bigger fool than our parents were and you know i wouldn't call the old folks fools so much as i would call them extremely naive which coming right after the civil war might seem understandable.

I will spell it out in RED so there is no mistake about my meaning:
[size=15pt] THE SOUTHWEST IS DOING AND HAS BEEN DOING FOR DECADES WHAT THE NORTH HAS BEEN/AND IS DOING IN POLITICS:APPROPRIATE TO THEMSELVES EVERY OR ALMOST EVERY PLAN/OPPORTUNITY FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND INVESTMENT WHERE ITS POSSIBLE.[/size]

They (south west) have learned to use the media as a tool/weapon effectively so watch as they will seek to discredit the arguments presented by the agitators and where they cant logically defeat the case made by the agitators (a most likely scenario), they will do two things:

[1]Kill and bury any and every story of the issues raised and seek to bar it from the realm of National discourse and where that approach fails

[2]The media sections controlled by the southwest will massively turn their attention to the South South and to a lesser extent , the South East :every gunshot , every death , every confrontation between the security agencies and whoever , will be reported in great detail a pipeline will not burst without it being in the news circle for at least a week.Strategically and psychologically, the image they will try to evoke is of a region in chaos or precariously close to it.Not the place any right thinking business big or small local or international would want to invest in, regardless of the resource base or the advantages it has.

You've only confirmed that the SouthWest has a good development plan.

No apologies for that.

godwin120alex:
Everybody saying Lagos is congested yet biz that is suppose to be cited in other cities are located in Lag. NG is a sham

You cannot force private investors to site their investments where you would prefer. It is theirs and profit is the motivation.

They are not in the business of developing cities, that is government's job. Private investors are only interested in developing their income.

The SouthSouth state governments and its citizens who feel slighted can also put up a similar project and challenge the one to be sited in Lagos in a healthy business competition.

anibi9674:
the niger delta is closer to other west african countries than lagos. they keep telling us is about technicality . they shud tell us d technicality involved.

You need to review the publisher/printer of the Nigerian maps you've veen buying.

Secondly, the project targets the African market, not just West Africa.

CSTR2:
Guy, omo-oniles affects the real -estate industry in no small measure.
Real estate investors in the SW are suffering a great deal.
Btw, the biggest foreign investments in Nigeria are located in the niger-delta.
Any company that wants to invest in the niger-delta is free to do so .All these excuses are more or less smoke screens.

If so, then why crying over a Yoruba man's investment and where he chooses to site it?
So I'm guessing all the cries from the youths are crocodile tears.

For your own education, the oil industry is not the only foreign investment in Nigeria. Also the project in question isn't solely targeting the oil industry or Nigerian marketing alone.

jomoh:
Raw materials?

Do you even know what a dry dock is? I doubt.

FYI Dry docks don't need your useless oil. Its just a workshop for construction and repair of vessels and ships.

Obviously Lagos/badagary has more ships berthing on its shores more than the whole ND combined.

Another advantage is its close proximity to other african countries who can bring their ships and vessels there for repairs. Talk of feasibility studies.

So next time your Jobless Illiterate Rogues Youths starts agitating for something you should get an education from google first before joining and making yourself look stvpid in the process.

ADVICE: Tell your brothers to clear the water ways of pirates and make the place secure first before calling for investments. No sane company will want to locate its investment in a volatile environment.

Please educate them.

islandmoon:
The Idiots chased us away from Niger Delta, now they are crying, am sure you want to collect USD5m before they built that ship yard, shouting our land Our land!! HAhahaha, see how they dressed, activist for that matter.. how many times have you tried to kidnap the man building Golf Estate in Hort Harcourt? we know you!! our land!! our oil our oil! our land!! community, Local Government , youth whahala!! no no no no!!! Enough is Enough
go and bring back Michelin to Nigeria..

my friend, you have chased away so many companies from the Niger Delta to Angola and Ghana, go and bring back Michelin West Africa, we can not allow you to keep kidnapping the expertrate and settling Local Government, settle Youth, settle community and settle who again, they will still kidnap! sorry nobody to kidnap this time around, go and stop kidnapping and double taxation first! then well reconsider your region for other projects


VOICE OF THE gods..

Indeed! The jobs they are crying about being denied must be the kidnapping opportunities no longer existing.

Again, LADOL will site its project where it deems fit and as originally planned, with or without NLNG. Not where a dunce president had hoped to empower kidnappers.

I'm mostly impressed by his appointment as SGF of an untainted politician.

His appointment of a non-system man to head customs is a master stroke. No decent man could have risen from the ranks of a corrupt service like the Customs Service.

As for state population, federal census figures shows that only Kano state is slightly more populous than Lagos state. No other Northern state even comes close. However, the Lagos state government sponsored census gives a figure that towers above Kano state and is in harmony with population estimates defined for Lagos.

That the North is more populous than the south is a different argument all together, which the federal census should have answered already.


Every other point raised is mildly acceptable when you consider the pattern employed by previous recent administrations.

You are very smart.

Apart from being falsely accused, what about deliberate false accusation just to settle a landlord-tenant score.

I tend not to believe most of such accusations nowadays.

Rape has become a weapon of intimidation.

Infact, in some cases where such crimes occur against kids, the true culprit coaches such victims to accuse an already decided scapegoat if the crime is detected.

The culprit is left free while also joining the mob in yelling "you're a wicked man, so you can do this type of thing".

CSTR2:
Look at this guy.
The regions were a threat to each other just like california is a threat to newyork?
Abeg carry your rotten arguments dey go.
Very sioon, i will see you shouting one-Nigeria in another thread.

I don't believe Nigeria should exist by force. If a peaceful dissolution can be worked out, I'll not in any way impede that.

However I believe we all benefit as a Nation from the common size and population vis a vis fellow African neighbours.

I can promise you that while the SouthEast and SouthWest may remain a single entity after dissolution, the same cannot be said of the Middle Belt and SouthSouth.

The crises that would ensue would eventually affect the otherwise stable regions

CSTR2:
Yes, but when ojukwu decided to opt out of an anti-igbo country to further leverage and build on the advantage of the eastern region which was the richest region at that time, your useless country declared war on him.
Your two-faced advantage seeking awolowo played a role.
If the igbos and by extension the old eastern region was that much of a burden, why didn't they let them go?

The SouthWest really couldn't care less.
It was a region already heavily occupied by Northern Soldiers. Awolowo was wise enough not to be pushed into regional suicide by an Ojukwu who knew the SW would end up being the war battleground. As a Yoruba, I have no apology to render for not being suicidal like the Igbo.

As for the North insisting on keeping the country together, I reckon they wanted the Igbo to enjoy the unitary federal system the Igbos had devised to rule the North. Just that the roles of the ruler and the ruled were now reversed.
Something the Igbos did not like, yet they tried to enforce before roles changed.

CSTR2:
Of course, he would prefer a non-Nigerian before a Nigerian that is not northern.
A so-called hero of one-Nigeria still celebrated by idiotts to this day.
Isn't that also what kwankwaso did when he went and build schools in Niger-republic?
And some people wonder why poverty of the mind and body is ravishing them over there?

The Non-Nigerian was never a threat to any region. In the era of regional competition, the East, West and North were a threat to each other.

You do not give your competitors jobs to the benefit of their region of origin and families there, and to the disadvantage of Northern youths who could not inturn head to the South to compete.
The North would have become a region channelling funds via Southern employees, for the development of the Southern regions.

The same reason a Chelsea would find it hard selling off a player to Man Utd, or Real Madrid selling to Barcelona.

All would rather sell to a club in a different league.

Why?
They are not close enough to hurt you in the long run.

A possibility that hindsight has proved right

The North would have turned to a job poaching ground for the Western region and Eastern region.

The Sarduana did his people a big favour with his well calculated policy.
Till today his own love him.

My opinion of him, or the opinion of the Igbo about him is irrelevant to the fact that he was a smart administrator that the North couldn't have been any better without.

As for the Igbos, you never tire to dey look for others tribal leaders to denigrate?

Everybody must work to your own advantage, else you call them traitor and whatnots. Yet we are still waiting to learn what favour the East ever did to merit anyone's loyalty.

zeestunner:
Bros I tire o God bless u. I just hate wen person de wan form like say e get sense pass the other person.

Don't mind them.

If only the federal government would be as nationally patriotic as the Sarduana was regionally patriotic.

coolitempa:
The ibos are terrible people....let us stop being politically correct....in my opinion....Ahmadu bello was right about them....do not forget that they later killed him in front of his wife n children....animals.....and they were even rejoicing until the......northerners dealt them a bad hand....

Them killing the Sardauna was their most joyful moment.

It was so joyful that they became blinded and it turned suicidal. They are still gnashing their teeth from the Northern treatment they were given for their disease.

zeestunner:
Fucking hypocrites on this thread were there northerner then in southeast civil service? If u were ahmadu bello would u protect the interest of ur people or not? It was northern region then so northernization of the northern region was in order. Northernization policy then meant having northerner maning the affairs of the region. Wats wrong with that? Name a state in the southeast that has a commisioner or 2 or 3 senior government official from other regions. If u can't then u all are greedy hypocrites

Some people have always been thieves.

Imagine crucifying a regional leader for being a patriotic regional leader.

The Sardauna practised what I term economic security.

The same way Nigeria sent Ghanaians packing in the 80's, also the same way Ghanaians stopped Nigerians from operating retail stores to the disadvantage of Ghanaian retailers.

Only a foolish government will fold its arms and watch outsiders push their disadvantaged citizens into unemployment.

zeestunner:
Fucking hypocrites on this thread were there northerner then in southeast civil service? If u were ahmadu bello would u protect the interest of ur people or not? It was northern region then so northernization of the northern region was in order. Northernization policy then meant having northerner maning the affairs of the region. Wats wrong with that? Name a state in the southeast that has a commisioner or 2 or 3 senior government official from other regions. If u can't then u all are greedy hypocrites

Some people have always been thieves.

Imagine crucifying a regional leader for being a patriotic regio

CSTR2:
I am not surprised anyway.
Even awolowo turned the western house of assembly into a den of tribalism.
The eastern region were too engrossed with regional progress to bother about national tribalism, which was why the eastern region was the most prosperous of that era.
Wicked people.

Yes we all know the famous prosperity of the eastern region. However we cannot remember what infrastructure it developed that other regions did not have, or what welfare policies it established for its inhabitants.

What is to be remembered is that they are still crying that the North denied them jobs meant for Northerners.

CSTR2:
The sick and irrational anti-igbo sentiments from one of the so-called founders of one Nigeria which you obviously overlooked was also an act of patriotism?
The same man who was a contemporary of Nnamdi azikiwe the foremost igbo one-Nigerianist in words and in deeds.
There is something innately wrong with you.
You deserve Nigeria and Nigeria deserves you.

With the knowledge of hindsight, I believe the words of the Sarduana concerning a specific immigrant tribe in his domain, were actually prophetic.

He knew who he was dealing with, and ensured he was not fooled to put his already disadvantaged people under more disadvantage.

ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
There is nothing wrong with what he said. He clearly stated in the full version of this video that northerners have no place in the civil service of the east and west and that is why he came up with his northernisation policy. a man from Kaduna cannot insist that Lagos or IMO state governments must employ him in their state civil service. That is what Ahmad bello was saying and if you must know, he was right!

Why do you even bother yourselves with those whose only grouse is that a Northern premier was pro-North with his policies.

Were their own regional premiers developing policies to the advantage of the other competing regions?

They wanted the premier to foolishly open the doors to people who would have now been boasting of how they were the ones to help the educationally disadvantaged North to develop herself. They easily forget that each region was conceptualized to develop herself while competing with the other regions.

Monies paid to such employees from the North's resources would have been keeping families in the South well fed, while the Northern youths who had no chance of competing in the South would have been left to swell the ranks of the already vast almajiri.

A Northernization policy for the North in an era of regionalism is as patriotic a leader would ever get.
You acknowledge your weaknesses and ensure you do everything to overcome the disadvantage.

If only present state governments and the federal government were this interested in the wellbeing of the people they swore to serve.