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Cognitivereason:
Nigerians are dull and daft..

there was a time government wanted to use unclaimed money left by dead people in banks to finance infrastructure...money that have accumulated to billions..instead of wasting them in the banks and allowing them to lose value over time why not use it to do better thing..

they wanted to swallow zainab ahmed raw..

just bury the idea of borrowing from the citizens..Nigerians including the educated ones are still daft..

we currently borrow from our central banks ..most commercial banks are not big enough to lend billions of dollars easily..if they do it comes it high interest compared to china exim bank

The bank or citizen borrowing all boils down to. Working system where everybody trust the government irrespective of who’s in power.

If borrowing from China is a better interest and money was used 100% as planned, I don’t see why borrowing is an issue.

dubaino:
China has completed the construction of Zimbabwe's new $160 million Parliament building as a gift to them.

China fully paid for the construction. It includes six floors and will house both the lower and upper houses of Parliament.

Chinese flags and Zimbabwean flags are on it.

https:///3vH3Co8CMK

A Trojan gift.

Sapa nice one.

Cognitivereason:
I do not entirely disagree with what you have said

but I find it laughable thatyou accuse The federal government for buikding for show off

you should accuse most of our state governors for dat

aside the railways every other piece of infrastructure this government has built is vital..
it not just about building roads to connect villages that produce food..

it about building infrastrucuture to every town and village that produces large proportion of items not necessarily agriculture only

lagos, ogun and ibadan produces 86% of all the made in Nigeria goods..you want to tell me constructing Lagos - ibadan expressway is show off?
onitsha has the largest concentration of businesses and industries aside lagos ..and u say 2nd niger bridge is show off as well?
apapa - oworonshoki express road is where every thing we use that comes from apapa passes through..an fashola building a 10 lane concrete road is show off and has no economic value?


inshort point to one piece of federal road the ministry of works and housing handles that is showoff..am waiting

look ..ignore education and SMEs (who mostly import) for now.. The reason why Nigeria can not produce is simply because if it does the final product can never match what is coming from asia..and ones ur price does is not cheaper than the chinese variant or asia ones..no body will touch it..

and this happens because there is no infrastructure that can cut down the cost of production..no refinery, no railway, no power, no road..
the absence of all this fustrate production..
u want to invest in SMEs before you invest in infrastructure..where is the road they will use to transport their produce or the power they will use..

infrastructure grows the economy.

now to railways ..the railways this government has built are sections of a project.. you cannot see the benefit of it yet simply because it is not completed.. the Lagos kano railline is meant to connect apapa and tin can island and pass through the zones that heavily contribute the economy(lagos,ogun,oyo,kano)...until the line is fully completed u cannot see the benefit..
amaechi has only built lagos - ibadan.. it hasnt been fully connected to the lagos port..meaning sufficient cargo cannot pass...there are no dry port yet along to the route to handle the cargoes moved on the rail..one is planned in ibadan and kano...abuja - kaduna was built by GEJ and it is part of the line..until apapa and tin can island is fully connected to ibadan is fully connected to abuja u will not feel the impact..this cost billions of USD..dat y it being done in sections with loans

I can admit that the benefit of the railways cannot be felt simply because it not finished....but it is foolishness to argue that there are no economic benefits of abuja-kano road, lagos - ibadan expressway or apapa oworonshoki...

we need the technology of the western world to produce and grow..africa is cursed that we never developed any...investors will never come (local/foreign) and invest if there is no infrastructure... all the leaders btw 1999-2015 has not invested heavily in infrastructure than this government from roads, bridges to railways..it is a vital aspect which is power that they are all failures

now I do not disagree with Obi's point..but all obi keep saying is we need to invest in SMEs and education..(anywise person will know that the benefit of all this will only be felt in atleast a decade to come)..Obi will tell u india, Vietnam bla bla lifted millions out of poverty...one thing Obi will never go detail about is how dey did it...he will only tell u the result of what ever they did...
he will say eygpt tripled their power supply..he will never stress about how they did it and how he plans to do it in Nigeria

fashola and Obi are not mate..fashola believes infrastructure and he proofed that he can provide better infrastructure by borrowing loans, issuing Sukuk bonds, tax credit scheme...except ur blind u will say u havent seen that this policy has produced physically..

how on earth does obi want to triple our power supply..how does he want turn Nigeria magically into a producing nation without infrastructure..until he tell us all of this..we dont believe in his words...

I trust sowore 2x than obi cuz sowore gave detail on how he intends to actually change nigeria and his process..Obi will be busy telling u about what other countries have achieved..how dey did it and how it can be realistically be done in Nigeria Obi has never explained

anyways he is better than Tinubu and Atiku

Nigeria is broke and has always been..broke in the sense the she can not generate enough money to fix most of our problems..
power is a big example..we need loans to fix that sector..that is the plain truth..and that is what eygpt did to fix theirs..
Obi should be honest about how he will get the needed funds to tackle it.. even with the right policies Nigeria can never fund the cost of fixing power..that was why the siemen contract was signed..loans were to come from germany ..God knows why it failed

this government is borrowing loans(1.5bn USD) to fix PHcity refinery..and more loans to fix warri and kaduna..
they gave dangote exclusive access to forex to build his refinery

one thing Obi hate is loans...every sensible person who listen to Obi all the times knows he despise this government for borrowing to fix infrastructure and how much they have squandered for infrastructure

I want to see how Obi wants to fix the rest of the refineries and power without loans...and it why I support him to become president

You nailed it except for …
1. Borrowing sensibly to finance infrastructure is not bad, what is bad is the corruption that exist in this institutions where every details of government contracts is not disclosed and the contract or some too government officials have a loop hole to squander majority of the money.

Corruption is the problem, how the borrowed money was managed is the problem, little or zero accountability for people in power.

In as much as I don’t want Obi, Atiku or Tinubu in power. Nigeria is way over due for credit system, once we transition from just cash to credit economy a lot of people’s purchasing power will increase. Everybody borrows to build infrastructure no big deal about that, but borrowing internally would have been a better option especially from our banks, or the citizen.

The Us treasury borrow money from the citizens and the banks everytime, and usually have some of the highest interest rates at maturity.

Saintinoo:
Tell me how building rail lines from Abuja to Kaduna has helped the economy of Nigeria.

Tell me how building fly overs have helped the economy of Nigeria.

No body is saying that infrastructure is not important, that can come and at the important places.

Good motorable roads in villages that produce food, that we need now.

There are sectors which will drive development and create jobs before we talk about building fly overs and rail ways which we need to borrow first.

She you go to school bayi, see the katikati that you’re typing disgracing yourself. Oh I forgot you went to one of the under-funded universities another infrastructural deficit.

How do you create jobs when there’s no better infrastructure in place?

Why is Nigeria one of the hardest place of doing business? Infrastructure is one major reason.

Who will provide the jobs? Govt ? Foreigners investors ?

You expect a foreign investor who’s bring millions of dollars to build factory, go still continue to provide for his own water, electricity, then security ? Have sense na!

Solid infrastructure is the best rock of economic building. There’s no argument about this. I’m quite surprised that Obi’s fan who claim to be educated youth are backing this mumuness.

mach7:
Fashola and Obi are not mates.

One major drawback of Obi is that he talks a lot and if you delve deep into what he is saying most times, it is hard to correlate his words into tangible solutions for the economy.

Furthermore, a lot of youths shouting Obi really do not even bother to critique his ideas or solutions. To them it is simply about being "Obidient"

Abeg obidient to what? Most don't even know.

His analysis are too superficial, he can’t delve deep. That I’ve also noticed about him.

Coolsperm:
. You forgot that muric have been in court over hijab issues, members of YMP ( Yoruba Muslims pigs) can not be trusted

Okay Mr Pig.

kaboninc:
I don't agree with you on the legal part. But if both have disagreement and she decides to abort it, please it should never be that its because she's a 'woman' and 'her body' because truly, in future she may have difficulty having kids and then regrets sets in.

There will be other concrete reasons and she could as well just give a flimsy excuse. But it's not her sole decision to make. That's my point.

And what if she wants it for herself and he doesn't? Then we come here to call the man irresponsible?

Like it said, both have equal say in what happens.

Okay.

kaboninc:
Great...

But I'm not forcing her even if I'm okay to be a single dad.

My point is, both have an equal say in what happens to the child.

Morally yes they both have a say.

Legally, the lady has a say about what kid she’s keeping or not cos it’s her body.

If he choose to be single man then he could had the baby by himself or arrange with her to just give him baby or arrange with a surrogate.

My point being, women wield more power as regards pregnancy. Her body is changed forever, she has to want it for herself not for him.

Golan007:
You are the one saying 70 is old not me.

Obi was in UK for rest the other day.

If Ekweremadu was not involved in an organ heist no one would have known he was in UK.

Tinubu like anyone else, is free to travel wherevee he wants.
He's gone round most states of Nigeria in the last few months.
Even premier league players, who are unique human specimens, fit with all the assistance and health care need to rest.

Just say you dont like Tinubu because he's Yoruba and we'll understand.

Again, Tinubu is an old man who’s obviously going through health issues.

I do not hate Tinubu, if you read my post well enough you’d see how I praised his efforts as former Lagos state governor.

Lol I’m Yoruba 100% born and raised in Lagos. How could I have hated my own. We chatting politics don’t always think everybody is ethnically biased smh

I don’t care if the young person he supports is a Yoruba or Ibo or Hausa or Nupe or Ibiobio or Igala … I’m all for competency and efficiency.

If we don’t leave this ethnic nonsense behind us then we still have a loooooooong way to go in naija.

kaboninc:
But baba, must I be married to her?

If its our baby, I believe we should both have equal say in what happens next na.

And is fornicating a bad thing?

No you do not have to be married to her.

And so you should not force her to be a single mother.

kaboninc:
If its our pregnancy, don't I also have a say even if its her body?

Yes you do after you agree that it’s not a “me” thing.

Then she will be carrying the “our” baby for 9 months which will change her life forever.

For a man that has not married her but instead casually fornicating with.

Golan007:
He's not old.

You just wish to call him old..

Samuel L Jackson is 73.

Morgam Freeman is 85... yes 85 and you've watched action thrillers in which they've both played.

Biden is 79.

Trump is 76.

Putin is 69.

Enough with all these brickbats.

Now you’re being ridiculous! Biden, Trump, Putin don’t travel abroad every other month for medical care smh

You didn’t think to compare him to Justin Trudeau or Macron? Jacina Ardern ? Sanna Marin

So because US and Russia have old people mean we should have them old too?
Same old people who’s been recycling power since 1960?

I know about Tinubus legacy in Lagos and his competence but HE IS AN OLD MAN, he doesn’t need to die in power, he could have supported a younger champ.

And he will steal which is pretty standard with all our past leaders.

In as much as I hate to say this, and don’t support any old man in power… Tinubu will definitely turn around Naija for sure but he’s old! And not the same Tinubu of Lagos state.

Why can’t he push a young chap and support that young man with his ideas, must it be him ?

Why do our African elders all want to die in power sef

Coolsperm:
We hope Yoruba Muslims will not termper with her skull

This Yoruba Muslim narrative is dumb and we Yorubas don’t have such. We are religious tolerant, we are not divided on religious line.
In my family, I have my siblings that are Muslims and Christians, we are Yoruba! Not Muslim or Christian. You can maintain that idea in your Igbotic tribe/ethnic… Yorubas are Yorubas!

Mayemavins:
I have been seriously contemplating, she Aborted my pregnancy after we both went to hospital confirmed it and we both agreed to keep the baby.

Moreover I really need the child, she connived with her sister and they Aborted it. I'm thinking to go the Police station to make a report and arresther!!

Pls should I?
Many more things surrounded that Pregnancy. I really need a child.

You’re too entitled, you said “my” pregnancy like say na only you put an there.

First correct yourself, it’s “our” pregnancy cos it’s a collective effort.

Secondly, No you cannot sue her, it’s her body. She decides what she wants with her body. She’s not your legal wife, you folks were just casually fornicating.

Ring her first before looking for a baby… too many baby mamas out there abeg Nigerian government no dey give child support o.

AlPeter:
the day someone shoots your family come out and say this....

I’m not justifying any shootings here, that OP didn’t talk about the shooting, he was talking about his personality. Ready my post again sir and show me where I justified his club shooting.

psalmz:
Mtchew ,the boy can be extremely nasty and full of himself,Fela wanna be

We’re all humans, remember you’re not perfect too. No single human is perfect.

Don’t be sadist, people only gathered here to celebrate his birthday not talk about his imperfections.

wiseoneking:
$15 dollar is not slavery and is above state and federal minimum wage. Some states minimum wages is btw $8 to $11. Federal Biden controlled republican is still proposing wages to $15. $15 is not paid to immigrants alone but to all Americans. Nigerians are still among the highest earning of average of $60,000 to 65,000 higher than average white ethnicity with Indians ever topping. Immigrants earn better than the indigenous or real citizens. Go through united states bureau website and confirm. Some states pays higher while others pay Lower. Hawaii , Alaska and California pay very high but the standard of living is high, while some states pays very low and the standard of living is not all that high. Stop this shi***t about slavery. Everything is not slavery. Many Nigerian earns higher than the whites . White people still earn very lower than $12 and they are still contented. I wonder where you learnt that to earn $15 is slavery.

Why not just ignore him, it’s a UK topic I’m not sure how he got to involve the US sef

MALIGNANTGuest:
Weather na Obituary naaa

Hahaha you’re right about that

Olaoluwa122:
Someone that can't handle her household properly want to be Lagos state deputy governor...make she go rest...

A sexist detected.

Show us your successful life and marriage!

Can you just learn to handle other peoples success without losing your mind ?

MALIGNANTGuest:
NIGHT VIEW from Resort!
So Lovely.....
The Resort Try.
I give it a rousing commendation!

How’s the weather like in Vegas right now… we’ve been getting 105-109 this past days.

redseason:
I fail to see how their deployments changes anything. Russia will never attack a NATO country and no NATO country will attack Russia first because it will not be able to trigger article 5. Secondly, there will never be a shooting conventional war between Russia and NATO, the best will always be proxy wars.

As for their predictions, it’s all useless. Joe Biden personally twitted that his sanctions will turn the ruble to rubbles. The UK predicted no military gains for a month in thesame week mauripol fell. They predicted Russia has run out of missiles one month into the war, as of today Ukraine says it bears over a thousands missile strikes per hour. They predicted the missiles don’t work, the leveled cities tell a different tale. They predicted a gloom for the Russian economy, but theirs took the major hit. They have been predicting a Ukrainian counter, but cities and towns keep falling. They should stop predicting and start taking stocks of on field events.

You nailed this.

DerrickzB:
The Minsk protocol?? Is there something I am missing?? Was it not Ukraine that broke the Minsk agreement?? These western people are such liars and hypocrites!! The good thing is that you cannot defeat Russia!!

Lol fortunately France and Germany do not agree to that statement. That’s only coming from UK so it’s alright lol

OhMyG0d:
Russia now has military bases in Central America, especially in Nicaragua. Their base in Cuba won't be activated for now.

Na you help them set up the base ?

You people will not stop bringing beer parlor conversation to this forum sha

ken6488:
Exactly expecting This response from Russia

Turkey about to be placed in where it belongs

Russia will support Kurd

Did the Russians said that? Or just your imagination ??
Just curious.

baralatie:
Russia wants to go into confrontation with Turkey

Well not directly. Turkey has been using the militia as a reason to create some buffer zone on Syrian soil. If the Syria want Russia to get the job done for them, and Russia want to look away considering their relationship with Turkey then I don’t have a problem with that.

Isreal have some privileges in Syria where Russians always look away and let them do whatever to keep their interests safe.

Mikekan30:
Bastard....

Useme'

Not a bastard, I know my father
Do you know your father

Mikekan30:
Maggot, u know your father..

Arrow

Yes I get father, he’s been sleeping with your mama

Mikekan30:
Bastard, you get Father?

Useme'

Yes I get father, he’s been sleeping with your mama

Mikekan30:
Bastard

Like your daddy

Mikekan30:
Vagabond

This one just wake up from the land of the dead.

SpatialKing:
Good education stimulates sustainable infrastructure

Good education won’t appear without some infrastructure in place, education will be a continuous effort upon infrastructure. Nigerian educated population is already among the highest in the world… for now invest in Infrastructure, bring more money for the economy, attract foreign investors while investing heavily on education.

The already educated ones are still not using their acquired skills cos there’s no infrastructure in place to support them, no jobs, what’s the point of education with no plans to retain the educated ? It equals to brain drain, just what we are experiencing now… the best brains are getting attracted to UK and Canada in large numbers.