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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tell me whats wise about the decision to say there are 3 person [bad grammar] in 1 God?

@wetu; if you are a woman; this is not directed to you.
if you are a man; chill. let yommyuk answer.

either way; watch how he will run around in circle on a very simple issue.
straight and practical answer will not come from the reader of God is not the Author of confusion book. how non confusing is 3 passing for 1?



check out; www.leveltruth.com dr. lawrence b. brown will talk to you.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ wetu; what are you saying?

you mean you don't like a little dialogue? even when somebody is openly lying, you should ite your tongue and let everyone else swallow the lie?

that a bad stand to take. there is nothing noble allowing lies to become the order of the day, the norm of the society.

@Mazaje;« #11 on: July 20, 2011, 09:41 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on July 20, 2011, 09:11 PM
@Mazaje; « #8 on: Today at 08:32:39 PM »as to the bold, let me play on words for you; your delusion knows no bounds. . . . . Mazaje declared in the 'Nairaland.com" or computer declared what is in the bold? please your evidence to show that any 'human being' wrote the 'bold' besides the lies of the author 'computer' is what? HuhHuh. . . . Radio wrote the music too, no?HuhHuh??

lost in denmark.

this shows your ignorance and delusion. i was going to respond to your first statement about God being an invented beliefs of cultures with a single statement that your atheism which is an invented culture of later human generation wants the earlier knowledge to be forgotten. As to Allah, before Muhammad [AS} was born, the man who sired him who he never knew is named Abdullah. There is no evidence therefore that Muhammad invented the Name Allah because no one accused him of bringing what they are not familiar with. Jesus was reported to have said Ellah. This is a syriac accented of Allah. similar to yoruba saying awusa instead of hausa, or igbo saying Yoruba instead of yoruba. you need to grow up, man.

Mr man you have lost your bearings. . . .You are completely gone. . . .[/Quote]mazaje is not familiar with igbo people calling yorubas Yoruba or the yorubas calling hausas awusas, i guess. so you have heard a danish call you masaje? the fulanis will say s instead of sh. come on, man. i will recommend a website to your atheist heart. maybe you will realize your follies.



@Martian (m) « #14 on: Yesterday at 07:55:15 AM »
[Quote]@Sweetnecta, the number one slave of Allah.

Quote from: mazaje on July 20, 2011, 08:32 PM
This old man keeps making senseless statements and sounding like a deranged baby. . . . .Gosh. . . .[/Quote]and you have to post a picture of an innocent child with his own problems to illustrate your point? you have no shame for exploiting the innocent young boy.

go help your atheist heart here to find direction; www.leveltruth.com

@teSlim; « #13 on: Yesterday at 07:23:32 AM »
[Quote]@Sweetnecta

There is no point for argument back and forth on the forum. All I'm challenging you to do as a deist is to proof the existence of your god. If he doesn't have a computer get his address and DHL him a net-book with a connection , so he can talk for himself or something. Or do a seminar and invite him to be a guest speaker.

You believe in DEVIL to? And if God is Holy who invented EVIL? Or what is the ORIGIN of EVIL? And is the Devil to powerful for him to handle? Or maybe they where both gods that created everything. And God wanted all the credits of creation (remember he's a jealous person); which made devil revolted. Devil was like we created all this things together and you want them to worship only you? No way! I'm revolting with my own staffs. Maybe the devil probably knew the truth and had se.x with Eve first to show her that life is more than ignorance. I hope you didn't believe it was apple they eat in the middle of the garden?

Knowing well that the bible didn't want to be X-rated on that part. Everybody should have known by now that the middle of the garden is the pu.s.sy the garden is the pubic hair. And devil must have been the first to 4uck Eve. Then Adam! Do you know there are rare twins occurrence? Where the twins are of different father? Maybe Cain and Abel was lol.[/Quote]since i am a muslim [no 1 slave of Allah as martian said above [i am happy that you recognized me as a slave of Allah]], and you are named teslim [an islamic name from silm, salaam, islam], i am certain that those who gave you those names are still muslims or were when they gave you that name. if they are still, they are my brother and sister in islam. now ask them to prove the existence of Allah The Almighty to you. if they can't, then come to me so that i can direct you to dr. lawrence b. brown. i tell you there is no atheist in battlefield during wars. there was no atheist in foxholes in 2nd world war.

^^^^^ what is it that you are saying that can't be spelled out like a real person?

What PEBCAK is, only you know. of course Allah the Almighty knows your thought.

@patsey; « #15 on: Today at 11:33:37 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 03:47:16 AM
@patsey; « #10 on: Yesterday at 06:13:41 PM »unfalsifiable; meaning not capable of being proved false. my proposition being an unfalsifiable proposition is therefore a very sound proposition [proposal is a weak meaning in this case]. this is head and shoulders better and more superior to the falsifiable proposal of God is 3 persons, where one of them is on his knees and hands [all fours] with toes curled up and face on the ground begging another God and the last of them is surprisingly kept mute and sent on errands like the begging God. how is a beggar a real God?

you need to use your mind, man.

YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU NEED TO SUCCESSFULLY TAKE AND PASS UNDERGRADUATE LEVEL 1 PHILOSOPHY IN LOGIC BEFORE I CAN CONTINUE WITH YOU. OTHERWISE, GET AN ELEMENTARY TEXT IN LOGIC OR PHILOSOPHY AND READ UP ABOUT FALSIFIABILITY AND UNFALSIFIABILITY. YOU CLEARLY CAN'T GRASP WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. GOOD BYE![/Quote]falsifiable, unfalsifiable are both english words. not restricted to philosophy alone, while we are discussing religion. i think you need to remain in school as stop contributing to discussions of adults.



@Eben 2; « #18 on: Today at 05:22:16 PM »
[Quote]As for the prayers of Jesus not being answered, maybe i shld write out the passage of the scripture. (39)"And he came out, and went, as he was won[/b]t, to the mount of Olives; and his disciples also followed him. (40) And when he was at the place. he said unto them, pray that ye enter not into temptation. (41) [b]And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed, (42) Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. (43) Anther there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. Luke 22:39 - 43[/Quote]a distance of a stone cast [throw] by adult is not next step away. it is very far for a person praying quietly or in a moderate voice, since God hears even as low as a thought in the heart. there is no reason to shout, unless there is intense petition. for Jesus to be that far and his disciples to have heard him, he must have been shouting at the top of his voice with all the air in his lungs. this will be ridiculous, even for a human being who has no prophetic responsibility. imagine a prophet carrying on like that, while Zacharias prayed quietly and the prayer was answered with the birth of John his son. Jesus with all his shouting, his prayer is rejected, you said?

Let me ask you; was he in prostration with his face in the dirt, like the muslims do, today? how about the prayers of his life for his life according to the bibles in the garden of gashemane? how about that mr. fong [sorry enen2]?



[Quote]Jesus came in to save the world in form of a man with flesh and blood. He could feel pains and agony and he was tempted like humans in everyway but the goodnews is, he overcame Hebrews 4:15.[/Quote]are you kidding me? have you heard 'physician save thyself'? this was from Jesus son of Mary.



[Quote][b]Jesus knew he was going to suffer and die for the world to be saved [/b]even from the walk go but as someone with flesh and blood, the body was tempted, didnt want to suffer but to God be the glory, Jesus knew it is the will of the Father for Him to die so He can pay the prize for our sins once and for all. What more answer could we want than an angel coming from heaven to encourage our Lord. If God had decided to spare Him, what could have happened to you and I? no wander the Bible says: "for God so loved the world that He gave His only beggotten Son, that whosover believeth in Him shld not perish but have everlasting life". Dont let His deathe be in vain in your life![/Quote]long before the alleged crucifixion, Jesus son of Mary said 'i have done all you commanded me to do' by it is 'finished' about the last supper. to have said he was going to die for anyone is an addition by those who wished to add. but interestingly, a man who knows he will die and begged for help and agreed that God's Will is to be done, do you think it is an act of faith for such a man to say the following, if he truly is a believer in God 'my God, my God, why has Thou forsaken me?" please tender your opinion and dont be shy. this statement in my opinion is not expected of any believer but from disbeliever; a pagan, a devil, an evil doer.

^^^^^^^^^ hold on to the bumper, babee [grace jones music].

he will give you a ride of your life. confusion over confusion. contradiction hiding under contradiction from contradiction next door.

i already warned ya. more confusion as in all contradiction coming up your way. he will serve you the hot the cold and the just right varieties.

[Quote]The leaflets read in part: “The Yusufiyya Movement has come to mean different things to different people in the last few months. This confusion and misinterpretation have made it necessary for us to come out publicly with the clear truth regarding our concept, struggle, aim and ultimate objective, as our declaration would guide in distinguishing the Yusufiyya movement from the various labels ascribed to us, as the Boko Haram.

This is necessary in the light of genuine concern by individuals and groups to the mass suffering of innocent citizens caught in the cross fire between our members and the Nigerian troops. This concern has again brought to the fore, the daunting issue of reconciliation, through dialogue, with the Nigerian authorities and individual leaders involved in the Unclad abuse of our birthright to the peaceful propagation and practice of our religion as we understand it.”[/Quote]the two bold if different from Quran and Sunnah, each will be considered 'an innovation'. and innovation leads to being astray. and astray leads to hell fire. i ask Allah to protect all muslims from each of these. Amin.



[Quote]The sect argued that it was in the process of exercising their right to propagate their religion as they understood it, that their leader, Mohammed Yusuf was killed as well as the destruction and confiscation of their landed and moveable property in Maiduguri. Following their leader’s murder, the members therefore “resolved to wage a struggle between justice and injustice, between truth and falsehood, right against wrong, in which the sect was sure of victory.”

The statement, however, noted that the public must know that the Yusufiyya Islamic sect is far from the image of the heartless terrorists, arsonists or sadistic robbers painted by other people with a distinct agenda, saying “it is therefore unbecoming to attribute attacks on the civilian population or places of worship to our group, the Yusufiyya Islamic Movement”.[/Quote]sect is a thing disliked.



[Quote]Referring to the factions in the Boko Haram sect, the statement further explained that; “ours is a clear fight for the blood of our founder, Mohammed Yusuf and other leaders who were slain in cold blood by former governor of Borno State (names withheld), the former Borno state commissioner of police and the late President”, adding that the former president “has since been seized by Allah in an answer to the sect’s prayer for support against his aggression”.

“We therefore distance our group from all the bombings targeted at civilians and other establishments and equally condemn them and pray that Allah expose those who perpetrated them and attributed them to us.”[/Quote]this is different from Sharia. they need to learn the Sharia about death.



[Quote]Exonerating the Yusufiyya sect from other factions of Boko Haram sect, the statement  declared: “We are concerned that some people with evil motives have infiltrated our genuine struggle with a false holy war that is outright un-Islamic. We call on this evil group to desist, failing which we shall have no option than to expose and hunt them.

“Finally, we have resolved to temporarily halt our fight against the assassination of our leaders in compliance with the prohibition of fighting in the holy month of Ramadan.”[/Quote]the first war fought in Islam,; the Battle of Badr, was fought in the Month of Ramadhan. the Holy Prophet [as] and his followers [ra] were commanded by God to fight against the aggressive enemies from Makka in this very month.

he uses singular after 'all'. no wonder he believes 3 person, too.

I know joeagbaje is avoiding my questions, as he did in many threads. i am hoping that your eyes will open up before you die.

@nuella; i am asking my question about God and Jesus son of Mary. you are turning help from a superior to a full subordinate to help meaning assistance.

you can't do that. help in this case means empower the powerless to accomplish. between God and Jesus son of Mary, who has the power to empower the powerless to accomplish?

this is my question.

^^^^^^^^^^ @JeSoul;

sheee o ri ara ile e?

instead of any contradiction he said all contradictions.


so if there is a contradiction, he is still safe. but he will not be safe by his proposition only and until it is all contradictions.

@MRC and adeboye; « on: Today at 12:34:34 PM »
[Quote]Pastor E.A Adeboye

Memorize: and the angel answered and said unto the women, fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus which was crucified” (Matt.28:5)[/Quote]whats the name of the angel? who was the woman? who narrated the story? after all matt was not there.



[Quote]In the end of the Sabbath, as it began to dawn to ward the first day of the week Mary Magdalene end the other Mary to see the sepulcher” (Mathew 28:1).[/Quote]this is senseless.



[Quote]Over the ages, women have prove to be great assets in the Kingdom if God. After the death and burial of Jesus, most male disciples went into hiding, whereas the female disciples were out at His grave side to show that they still love Him even after death.[/Quote]there were 12 disciples. please name all the 12. and name the women disciples from the 12. are you sure that jesus died? if he died, it means many things; his many prayers were rejected, a sign that he was not a messenger or a prophet. the prophesies that the christians use in OT about protection is false. a prophet could not be accursed, but jesus according to the bible was. the sign that he chose to give was unfulfilled [note that he did not say that he will die. he just said he will spend 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the earth]; there is no way you will get 3 nights from friday evening and sunday morning in the cave [do your own calculation]. a prophet is not a disbeliever. but when the bible recorded that jesus said to God 'why do You forsake me', that is nothing but pure disbelief.

maybe this disbelief led to his saying that he will return before the last of his disciples died. he never has returned.

maybe this disbelief is a carry over the reasons the christians think a few miracles made a man become God? maybe this is why they can't know that to calculate 3 days and 3 nights out of friday evening to sunday morning it will be impossible to do. maybe thats why they proposed that are 3 persons [personalities. there is no way 3 can be followed by singular 'noun'] in 1 God. there are many maybes.



[Quote]Read up here: http://christonline.info/blog/?p=6207
http://christonline.info[/Quote]with the lies, above what benefit is this here?

@Joeagbaje and anyone bold enough including the op; Should be capable of telling the truth here i will appreciate it. from the bible have you come to any verse where Jesus did need help? Have you come to any verse where Jesus did not need help from God?

have you come to any verse where God needed help?have you come to any verse where God needed help from Jesus?


Who of the two can do everything without the support or help of the other? Who of the two must need help from the other otherwise he will not be able to do anything?



Who is helping who; Jesus son of Mary or God Almighty Yahweh or Jehovah [your choice of name].

@patsey; « #10 on: Yesterday at 06:13:41 PM »
[Quote]@Sweetnecta,

Religious beliefs, dogmas and doctrines are, quintessentially, unfalsifiable propositions. To teach unfalsifiable propositions is to indoctrinate, to indoctrinate is immoral and immorality tantamount to aberation. May I, therefore, suggest that you and your indoctrinated cohorts not only stop floating unfalsifiable propositions on this forum, but also desist from insulting our rational autonomy.[/Quote]unfalsifiable; meaning not capable of being proved false. my proposition being an unfalsifiable proposition is therefore a very sound proposition [proposal is a weak meaning in this case]. this is head and shoulders better and more superior to the falsifiable proposal of God is 3 persons, where one of them is on his knees and hands [all fours] with toes curled up and face on the ground begging another God and the last of them is surprisingly kept mute and sent on errands like the begging God. how is a beggar a real God?

you need to use your mind, man.

@Mazaje; « #8 on: Today at 08:32:39 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 07:56:53 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^ he has spoken about the Jewish and or the Christian God. when you write to critic any matter, the most important evidence is always in the first sentence. in this case, tESlim has used 'man created man in His Own Image'. you will only find this conept in the bible.

in the Quran, however, you will not find such concept of 'image of God'. God declares that Nothing of His has man. and He does not have anything of man. it is very clear therefore that all are creatures. God, alone is the Creator. He is singly Unigue in every respect.

@tESlim; you dont even know a single thing about Islam before you left it. you should have asked mom and dad; these two are usually the first resources of comfort, safety, wisdom before we breakout trying to definite ourselves as individuals. you just broke out without taking advantages that parents offer. i see why you are in a dire strait.

Your delusion knows no bounds. . . . . .God declared in the Koran or men declared? Please your evidence to show that any external being wrote the koran beside the lies of the authors is WHAT?HuhHuh. . . . . .Yahweh wrote the bible too,no?HuhHuh??

This old man keeps making senseless statements and sounding like a deranged baby. . . . .Gosh. . . .[/Quote]as to the bold, let me play on words for you; your delusion knows no bounds. . . . . Mazaje declared in the 'Nairaland.com" or computer declared what is in the bold? please your evidence to show that any 'human being' wrote the 'bold' besides the lies of the author 'computer' is what? HuhHuh. . . . Radio wrote the music too, no?HuhHuh??



[Quote]Faith doesn't transcend reason at all. Faith sidesteps reason. .[/Quote]lost in denmark.



[Quote]« #9 on: Today at 08:46:43 PM »

Quote from: Uyi Iredia on Today at 06:50:15 PM
I do not think man invented God. It would not have withstood the test of time if so.

Men invented all the Gods according to their beliefs and culture and the God idea kept evolving. . . .Men invented all the Gods and as such NO God can be shown to exist independent of man made stories, man made writings, man's cultural acceptance and societal influence. . . .Gods exist ONLY in the imaginations of the believers. . . .Some Gods existed for thousands of years before they died away or were replaced with new ideas or conception of other new Gods ,example the ancient Egyptian and Greek Gods. The Jesus God came into existence some 2000 years ago. . .Allah God came into existence some 1500 years ago. . . . .Before then these God concepts and the theology that keeps them alive did not exist. . . . . . .[/Quote]this shows your ignorance and delusion. i was going to respond to your first statement about God being an invented beliefs of cultures with a single statement that your atheism which is an invented culture of later human generation wants the earlier knowledge to be forgotten. As to Allah, before Muhammad [AS} was born, the man who sired him who he never knew is named Abdullah. There is no evidence therefore that Muhammad invented the Name Allah because no one accused him of bringing what they are not familiar with. Jesus was reported to have said Ellah. This is a syriac accented of Allah. similar to yoruba saying awusa instead of hausa, or igbo saing Yoruba instead of yoruba. you need to grow up, man.

@Joeagbaje; « on: Today at 07:13:21 PM »
[Quote]. . ,But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power upon earth… (Luke 5:24).

Even though He was the Son of God, the Lord Jesus in the days of His earthly ministry often referred to Himself as the Son of Man. Some have wondered how He could be both at the same the time. The explanation for this is simple: He was the Son of God in the sense that He was born of God’s Word; He was the Word of God made flesh:[/Quote]as to the bold who said this in its original; Jesus or Luke? the answer you give will begin to shape your final conclusion. that verse did not say 'son of God', so your [even though he was son of God] is your own conjecture.



[Quote]“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth” (John 1:14).

He called Himself the Son of Man because He came as man’s legal representative. He came to represent man to God, such that whatever judgment God placed on Jesus on account of men’s sins sufficed for the salvation of all men:[/Quote]from the sentence construct, how can you say for sure Jesus was the speaker and not an over zealot John? after all, Jesus was already lift off the face of the earth before the NT was ever penned.



[Quote]“Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed” (Isaiah 53:4-5).

Jesus was man’s legal representative and He knew this about Himself; that’s why He called Himself the Son of Man. He was bold to confess and declare it before God, angels and devils. He wanted everyone to know He was man’s substitute. That’s why when He suffered and died on the Cross, we suffered and died with Him, and when He was buried, we were buried with Him. He suffered and died for our sins, as our substitute, so that we could be free. When God raised Him up, we were raised up together with Him. When He ascended into the presence of God, we were brought into the presence of God where we couldn’t have entered by ourselves.[/Quote]the persevered John son of Zacharias, suffered more and complained less than Jesus son of Mary. Is Isiah speaking about the complaining and not so patient Jesus but John or some other person?



[Quote]Now 1 John 4:17 says “…as He is, so are we in this world.”

That means the life, the glory and the name He now has belongs to us. This is the reason the Apostle Paul admonished us in Colossians 3:17 to do all things in the Name of Jesus. So today, we live in the Name of Jesus. When we pray to God, we do in the Name of Jesus. And when you live your life in the Name of Jesus; no sickness or disease can take a hold of your body; and no demon can destroy your life. This is the victory of Christianity![/Quote]this is lousy. who wrote Colossians? anyone known by Jesus son of Mary?



[Quote]Confession
I live in absolute victory over sickness, disease and poverty today and always! No weapon of darkness fashioned against me shall ever prosper, because I live in the Name of Jesus! I’ve been delivered from sin, sickness and death, and catapulted into God’s realm of abundant life where I reign victoriously with Christ, everyday, in Jesus’ Name.[/Quote]any christian can be sure that this applies to him or her because the holy messenger [AS] declares that every disease has a cure except death, which every soul will taste. i know you are preaching prosperity gospel. wealthiest man on earth today is not a christian. some of the poorest countries on earth practice christianity.



[Quote]Further Study
Hebrews 2:14
Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

- pastor chris[/Quote]while you are glutting on flesh and blood of another man, how does the above make any moral sense? is no one dying anymore or responsible for his or her own action?

Jesus lived a live of a man elected by God to carry His Message to his people. this is why he had no followers except the children of israel. his message was not the message that ends all messages, the reason he spoke about the another comforter who is also a spirit of truth like him coming forth from God. such a spirit of truth is nothing but a mortal messenger of God. it is human that God sends to humans. He does not send Himself to humans. why would he do things that are not befitting His Honor?

^^^^^^^^^^^^ he has spoken about the Jewish and or the Christian God. when you write to critic any matter, the most important evidence is always in the first sentence. in this case, tESlim has used 'man created man in His Own Image'. you will only find this conept in the bible.

in the Quran, however, you will not find such concept of 'image of God'. God declares that Nothing of His has man. and He does not have anything of man. it is very clear therefore that all are creatures. God, alone is the Creator. He is singly Unigue in every respect.

@tESlim; you dont even know a single thing about Islam before you left it. you should have asked mom and dad; these two are usually the first resources of comfort, safety, wisdom before we breakout trying to definite ourselves as individuals. you just broke out without taking advantages that parents offer. i see why you are in a dire strait.

@eben2; « #5 on: Today at 07:52:00 AM »
[Quote]@Sweetnecta,

the things of the Kingdom are foolishness to them that are wise in thier own sight.[/Quote]critical analysis is not wise in their own sight. otherwise, they would arrived a conclusion without referring to what is obvious; jesus prostrated his face and there id no 'just fighting your fight on the knees from him'. he asked God in humble position; face on the ground along with palms and knees and toes all on the ground, like muslim next door in daily salah.



[Quote]The poster did not post this message for you or anyone else to critizice but for those that have ears to be blessed![/Quote]when a lie is written, people with ability to see it as lie should speak up. thats what i did.



[Quote]He's simply saying everyone born of God has the right to go to Him with their problems and settle it there.[/Quote]when jesus went to him like the same way the muslims who are His slaves go to Him, and jesus was rejected [you said his prayer was not granted because you said he was killed], yet He answers the prayers of many of these slaves, what kind of 'born of God' can you be when many christians asked and they are refused? are you truly 'born of God' or just lying to yourself? you refused to accept yourself as creation and servant/slave. yet i have not seen any of you who ever claims that your mom is the wife of God. is your father not an african, living on this earth, man?



[Quote]You and your likes should know that not every tread is meant for you to show how skillful you are with words. Christ did not come to create a religion but to reconcile those WHO BELIEVE back to God.[/Quote]how? how did he reconcile himself with God except by way of Moses? remember he practiced what Moses left? And MOses practiced what Abraham left in worship. Remember that Abraham believed as Noah. Noah believed in One God as Enoch. And Enoch followed the example of Adam. Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, which one of them does not have a religion? were they religious jews or religious christians?



[Quote]Christianity is about FAITH![/Quote]blind faith. a faith without reason and or proof.



[Quote]If you dont have that faith, then keep to yourself but believe this, when God is ready for you, you'll beg for your unbelieve. Ask Paul![/Quote]http://www.thedeenshow.com/show.php?action=detail&id=790
watch dr. lawrence brown's new testament show.

^^^^^^^^and his parents believe in God with proper Name; Allah.

he refuses to change his islamic name. i wonder how he is against the God Whose decreed religion on man this threader refuses to drop a name from said religion he bears?

he loves a name, he despises the religion and denies the God. what a joke.

And yommyuk is fighting his battle, alone. suddenly there is no one to 'protect him' and or 'fight for him'? is that what you are saying, man? after all you re using a style different from the style used which you think is unsuccessful? when you said he was killed, i take that as battled lost, the reason you abandoned his style. abi?

@tEslim; « #28 on: Today at 07:02:39 PM »
[Quote]@sweetnecta

Teslim is an Arabic name and has a meaning that can be translated into English or Yoruba I was told it means Peace or Peacemaker. Well regardless your argument about my name seem to mean that if someone has a Yoruba name he must be worshiping a Yoruba god or be into a Yoruba religion. You still dont get the logic I guess. Think outside the box and forget all the religious sentiments brother[/Quote]it is not an arabic name. it is islamic name and expression. expression from aslam and salaam because it is the act that is done when muslim turns right and say as ssalamualaykum wa rahmatUllah and turn left and say as ssalamualaykum wa rahmatUllah ending the prayer [every salah made daily].

a onisango who enters islam changes his name from sangodeyi, for example because he is no more a chango worshiper. why can't you be bold enough to take up your other names; yoruba names since you are still yoruba. and leave Teslim, a purely muslim name which you left already?

@agi tuedor; « #19 on: Yesterday at 12:18:40 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 11:47:19 AM
@agi-tuedor; « #13 on: Today at 11:37:48 AM »he lives in nigeria that elects an ineffective and indecisive leader. he says he wonders hoe i think, sometimes. wonder on, man. we are not supposed to think alike. was there no believer on earth before Moses? shouldn't there be a law that governed man in relationship with his Creation and man's place with the earth?

I know we ain't suppost to think alike. But must everything be dragged to directly from God? Doesn't man play a role in the formulation of his society?
Take a good look at the 10 commandments and tell the one you think is not geared towards civility. Even, the one which says they should worship other gods is established to curb proliferation of gods in the land, as the polytheistic israelites are apt to do.
Of course, there were believers before Moses. In fact, moses was a commissioned disciple of the cult of Aten, whose founder was the great Pharoah Amenhotep aka Aknenaton, the first mortal to establish the existence the One God, the first monotheist. (he was black man, by the way, lol).[/Quote]is there a reality but God at the helm of it? have you wondered where you came from apart from the source being God? do you figured out already a way not to go back to God at the end of your earthly term?

most of you are discovering that Moses was black. few of us, Alhamdulillah have accepted to stand shoulder to shoulder to anyone, regardless of his 'schism' in one purpose of the human family; submitting our will, individually to God.



@tEsLim (m); « #20 on: Yesterday at 01:18:46 PM »
[Quote]Well said agi-tuedor!

@people talking about my name I'm non-religious neither Muslim, christian or member of any sect/cult. And I had the name from birth at time when I had no power to choose. And it doesn't make any difference to me as long as I like the meaning of the name, my parents gave me about 6 names in all (lol). But always delighted to discuss with free thinkers.[/Quote]choose a name or two from the other six and drop teslim. its islam, you know. there is no muslim revert that i know that bears paul, or cain, etc. when they enter islam, they drop a name that connotes evil, according to islam [paul being a person known to have opinions different from Jesus. cain being the first to kill, and he killed an innocent soul, his brother]. if you don't belong to islam, why keep an islam name unless you are even a fake to your new found cult; whatever it is; atheism or not? you are fake to islam, fake to your new way; man, make up your mind and it is you are either soko, or saka, why sokosaka?

teslim is the name of the last child of my family. just change it and since your parents are allowing you to be yourself, changing your first name is no biggie. you can bear your yoruba name. your parents are not boko haram, so you have no worries that you will be hurt.

@yommyuk: Matthew 26:39
[Quote]He went on a little farther and bowed with his face to the ground, praying, “My Father! If it is possible, let this cup of suffering be taken away from me. Yet I want your will to be done, not mine. “

Even Jesus Christ the Son of God prayed to God before he was about to face the cross. He knew that he was about to face a terrible and shameful death. So in prayer to the Father, he drew his strength by submitting his will the God the Father. Are you willing to submit your situation to God the Father? Read on.[/Quote]if the bold is 'fighting your battle on your knees', the Muslims have perfected the best way to fight the battle. they are copying Jesus. i wonder who Jesus copied; Moses, Abraham, who, or he just made that up for himself, being the first to fight the battle the way the muslims fight it, now?

if the muslims are wrong, then Jesus is wrong along with them, just as Moses was, and Abraham was to name a few. then we have either the jews or the christians fighting for who is right without these holy men. yet it is from these men that the choose their respective group leader.

yommyuk, your lies stink hard; how did Jesus not say in the mane of Jesus when he was fighting the battle? look at your post and tell us, yet you as a christian fight your battle with Psalm of David you accused as killer of the husband of the wife he performed adultery with. you ignore the Gospels according to the 4 people since the Gospel of Jesus is nothing you have [maybe this is your problem; no true references], you abandoned how Jesus fought his battle [and lost that battle. maybe this is the reason you let him be and you developed a new fighting method?], you do not use paul's books of revelation [why attach yourself to the book of David; Psalm? Maybe it has more power while the Gospels and Revelations and mere books and powerless?].

and to continue the lies that that are worse than the deceits of News Reel Corporation and its chairman, etc, you forgot that the hung guy said in the Bible "my God, my God, . . . .". why not my father, which should have been the case, if he was a true son? is his mother the wife, or what is she [girlfriend, concubine, what]?

@Congoshine; « #70 on: Yesterday at 07:29:01 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on July 13, 2011, 07:37 PM
@congoshine; « #65 on: March 31, 2011, 10:20 PM »do you know more than this? enu ni wo omo de yi ni bi a je akara.
Agbani Durego is looking for a husband. you are in 9ja. she is in 9ja. nothing you have done about it.
Abi oloshi ni e ni ? Undecided[/Quote]Alhamdulillah. No.


[Quote]Ewo lo kan e ? Huh[/Quote]you are on Muslim forum. i am a muslim. you are not. you see that you are in wrong section that i rightfully belong.


[Quote]Mind yourself o Angry[/Quote]i already minded myself. thats why i am responding in the religion section.


[Quote]Who told you I'm in naija ? Abi you be yahoo boy wey dey try trace people ? Cheesy[/Quote]you are at least on earth. whats yahoo boy?


[Quote]Nothing for you Tongue[/Quote]what is for me is Islam.

capitalism; as in banking and finance is my primary function in the organization i work in.

i do not intend to discuss cyberspace amateurish financing.

if people like me are allowed to organize the finances of Nigeria, she will be out of debt and financially solvent, in less than 6 months top.


so boys; your empty talks without ever engaged in project financing in your entire lives is just that; empty talk.

that will eliminate jesus as yahweh in ot. moses, joshua, david, solomon.

and in nt, jesus the tree killed. jesus the swine killer. jesus the king intensed on killing those who do not want him to rule over them.

i intentionally left abraham who killed and on his return god prayed for by king of salem.



you dug yourself a hole. i just pushed you in since you really wanted to fall in it.

@sun of god; « #2 on: Today at 05:48:26 PM »
[Quote]It clearly states in the Bible - Beware of False Prophets eg Mohammed.[/Quote]most definitely, there is a test given in the bible to identify 'true prophet' and the same test is to be used to proof a prophet to be 'false' in his claim. please list the test for us to read. apply it any prophet that you want; Abraham, etc. even Jesus. justify each of them by it to be either true prophet. otherwise false prophet. apply the same test to Muhammad [as] as see where he belongs. i affirm that even the biblical jesus will fail to be a true prophet, while Muhammad [as] will be on the true prophet column.



[Quote]Mods - Shift this post to the religion jokes section.[/Quote]the joke is on you, when you refuse to accept the challenge posed above. i laugh at you in ewe.



@kcswat « #4 on: Today at 06:28:54 PM »
[Quote]Shocked Cheesy Piss be upon him.[/Quote]i know that its difficult for you to write 'peace'. no everything is written as it sounds.

@lepasharon; « #8 on: Today at 05:10:02 AM »
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^^^^^^^^^ Lepasharon; no muslim who understands islam will wear beads. muslim is to take the example from the Messenger [as]. and he never wore 'beads'.

and there is no 'book of Mary' in islam. if you have a copy, put it up so that the whole community of global village can read it.

but your God is the son of virgin Mary. No? then Mary is more important to you that you are letting on, unless you don't know or pretending about her importance.

every mother is important to the son. and if Jesus is your God, his mother could not be a woman you can dismiss offhandedly. after all it was her womb that 'developed' your God [a developing God is a god].

it was the milk of Mary that nourished him [a milk socking God is a god].

i can not see how Islam is even a distant neighbor of any christian sect, each being siblings to one another,

haha! da roots of islam go back to the roman catholic church mehhn!

so wat r those prayer beads used for? is it not count prayers? is dere not a chapter in the Koran called Maryam?

and No Jesus is not God,the catholic church got christians fooled into beleiving he is -a God praying to God?Jesus said he came to do the fathers will!
dont you muslims believe in da Virgin birth also so wat r u saying?[/Quote]to the bold, i say hahaha!!the roots of islam go back even pass judaism, because, mann [woman], prophets of God before judaism was ever constituted have religion; Islam. what do muslims do; by Islam they believe and profess that God is One without equal, partner son and Independently capable. this is different from catholic belief. Muslims pray with bowing, prostration of face, without a dobale type which others including a sect of the jews do. if i stop here, Muslims are they only group who do not have a book that did not come through their prophet. The jews have talmuth [talmud] which is from their later rabbis. the christians have books of revelation principally from paul. the two groups take these books over the books from the prophet[s] they claim to follow, respectively. Are the catholics a group sect among the christians following Jesus, or truly obeying paul, like lepasharon the protestant?

yet, no prophet followed paul's books of revelation. yet no prophet followed the talmuth [talmud]. the point here is that you have to observe before concluding. And for your prayer beads, i dont use them. i count with my fingers. any number, any method. interestingly enough, i think the catholics say a different word or expression on each bead, whereas the muslims when they use it is to allow them to know how many times they say a particular word or expression; is it 33 times, 100 time, 1000 times. that sort of thing. big difference even when they use something oddly similar if you accept similarity. i see why those say man is from animal will argue with your similarity here as their basis; man has head, so does animals for a starter. i see why you accept man as your God, ignoring the obvious that he looked like man, and you dont know even the errand boy holy spirit looks like, even his name you dont know.

there is a chapter in the Quran called Mary. there is a chapter in the Quran on each of these names; Huud, Yususf, Ibrahim, Luqman, Noah, Muhammad. there is a chapter on this gender; woman. there is a chapter on these actions; divorce, frown, disputation, consultation, etc. there is a chapter on each of these people; Imran, Israel, Quraish, there is a chapter on each of these animals; cow, cattle, ant, bees, spider. Yet Jesus is more important to the muslims because he is a prophet [as] and his mother is not. so whats special about Mary is that it is in the Quran that you will see the defense [as in honor of Jesus which he prophesied as the job of the another comforter] of Jesus fulfilled; his mother was accused of adultery by the christian song in yoruba 'kini tinu o Mary, Mary, kini tinu o Maria. . . . '. Quran defended her and Jesus is washed clean away from being called bastard by making his coming into existence known as it truly was; creation, similar [not the same] with Adam; when God decrees a thing He says to it in Command 'Be'. So it comes to being by its process.

the only thing that you said that is reality is that jesus is not God. but you went back to your fantasy immediately after it by saying that virgin birth will amount to what? what will you say of Adam or Lady Eve who came about without sitting in no womb to be cooked even for a moment?

@agi-tuedor; « #13 on: Today at 11:37:48 AM »
[Quote]@Sweetnecta. How far?
Sometimes, I wonder the way you think. The 400 or so laws of egypt from which moses carved the 10 commandments were primarily civil laws (like a constitution). And as such, they were not as a result of divine illumination. They were the creation of the elites to govern the society (more like the Nigerian Constitution). The 10 commandments were only a subset of these laws and was adopted by Moses (who, by the way, was a high ranking and educated egyptian citizen) to insitute law and order in the society he is to lead. I am sure this is simple enough for you to understand.[/Quote]he lives in nigeria that elects an ineffective and indecisive leader. he says he wonders hoe i think, sometimes. wonder on, man. we are not supposed to think alike. was there no believer on earth before Moses? shouldn't there be a law that governed man in relationship with his Creation and man's place with the earth?

@Erniewhez; « #9 on: Today at 11:12:56 AM »
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You didnt mention anything on resurrection of Jesus true or false?, on the issue of Moses you did not mention how the Israelites actually got to the new "country" the miracles we read about Moses in Egypt, how "FALSE" or how true?.  Where do you come about your knowlege of these, book or thought, was it divine"fell from heaven" or written by man as you imply with the bible. If written by man, why do you believe in one man that wrote the book you read contracdicting the content of the bible and you dont believe in the "man" who wrote the bible. I want to believe youre not religion freak, so I shouldnt sound offensive asking you to throw more light into the Quran as you just did with the Bible.  I seek knowlege, Thank you1!
tEslim is not a muslim by his saying that organized religion is a sham, among other things; his belittling prophet isa bin maryam as a 'demi prophet', moses as compiler of 10 commandents and God as man in the sky. he never said he is a believer of Quran.
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@erniewhez; « #6 on: Today at 10:50:07 AM »tEslim is not a muslim by his saying that organized religion is a sham, among other things; his belittling prophet isa bin maryam as a 'demi prophet', moses as compiler of 10 commandents and God as man in the sky. he never said he is a believer of Quran.


Why dont you read between the lines, I afore said, "I know youre not religious freak". What does that mean in a literary language? Excuse me, I never called him a Muslim, neither am I contesting between both religion, I only seek more light to his public pronouncement and facts to back up the truth he believes in. I wrote: "I seek knowlege", I havent condemned his ideology, still prodding into his ideas and wants him to go elaborate. Thanks![quote][/Quote]your usage of the words offensive and Quran in the same sentence should be enough for me to conclude that you thought of him as a muslim. if you think he was not, you would not have used the word 'offensive' when you asked him to treat Quran the way he is treating the Bible. i am certain that if you know that he is jewish for example, you will say you dont want to be offensive when you ask him about Quran. you will only say that when it is the Torah.

^^^^^^^^^ talk about yourself. leave an email or some means of contact.