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i guess the saudi arabian government forgot blood money and other option that Allah stipulates in the Quran.

what ultra orthodox about a non conforming to Quran ans Sunnah?

@pastoraio; « #32 on: Yesterday at 09:17:37 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 08:00:50 PM
@Pastoraio; « #28 on: Today at 05:29:37 PM »and you are happy to the nth degree by your lie. i pity your soul. may Allah straighten it from where it is in the crooked zone.

is there no difference between you lost me [an expression to indicate a statement does not make any logical sense] and he is lost [a statement to indicate he followed the wrong way]?

those white boys in the grammar school dorms of your youth must have 'wounded' you so badly. o ga fun e, iwo aborisha lasan lasan yi. you can't even hide your hatred and speak the truth.

Alhamdulillah that i am lost to you. lost away from your evil ifa and all the orisha tio nbo. the muslims are calling you away from the path of spiritual destruction. you are stubbornly clinging to a stink. come clean. man.


Who is hiding hatred? and who is spewing hatred? Do some soul searching man? To be lost is to be lost. it means you have lost your bearings, you are disorientated, you don't know left from right again, or up from down.

'you lost me' does not mean that something doesn't make sense. It means that you have been unable to follow the line of reasoning, hence you got lost on the way. Lost is lost. I don't know any other meaning for lost in the english language.

And finally, 'Grammar school'? No be your fault. You no know say na different different level dey for british education. But you supposed know though, because na different different level dey everywhere for this world. Let me stop there before I start sounding snobbish! Tongue[/Quote]thank Allah that pastoraio, in his arrogance [sorry snobbishness] says the bold. i do hope you know that grammar schools and their boarding arrangements are n different classes in england? if you have gone to the best, it would not have meant a thing to me. i do not like england, long before i met somebody like you with your 'oppression in the hands of white boys' story.

nothing complex that the young man was saying when i remarked that he lost me because he didn't make any sense to me. below is agi tuedor entry and my comment. how your emotion registered that i was lost even in that beats normal mind, you babalawo of a young man;

[Quote]« #18 on: July 12, 2011, 10:16 AM »

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Very good. Perfect love and justice are indeed one and the same thing. The Love of God is inherent in His Justice. Justice demands that a man reaps what he sows and Love seeks to teach a man to sow the right seeds. But Love doesn't cancel Justice but complements it. God may have sent prophets to teach mankind the path of Truth but it doesn't mean that the natural order (Justice) will be uplifted for this sake. Love affords man the opportunity to know Truth and Justice guides him faithfully on that path. Indeed, Love and Justice different sides of the same coin. See it as Love when Justice is meted out to a man for him to recognize the wrongfulness of his actions.
What I am saying in essence is that the Love of God lie in the opportunity given to man to learn from the wise master Jesus, the knowledge of which, if followed, can lead to salvation. The death of Jesus is atrocious and a highly sinful act. Salvation lies in his teachings and not in his death (this is the greatest lie of christianity). Thanks. Justice different sides of the same coin. See it as Love when Justice is meted out to a man for him to recognise the wrongfulness of his actions.
What I am saying in essence is that the Love of God lie in the opportunity given to man to learn from the wise master Jesus, the knowledge of which, if followed, can lead to salvation. The death of Jesus is atrocious and a highly sinful act. Salvation lies in his teachings and not in his death (this is the greatest lie of christianity). Thanks.
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^^^^^^^^^^^ agi-tuedor lost me when he failed to include Moses among those people lessons are to be learned from their actions. these people are prophets of God. he lost me far more when he didn't include any of the 'sinless' persons ever recorded by his bibles; Job with all the calamities, sinless before, during and after the calamities [or can anyone name his sin?], father and son combo; Zacharias and John; people with patience and forbearance.

yet he centered his argument on Jesus who by today's evil world standard, one will see something wrong in killing the tree if he truly did [still finds the action very odd for a prophet of God, when part of his qualities is ability to bite his tongue, patience, persevere or ability to do without, etc], or the act that drowned the pig [the same pigs christians can get enough of, and this group lay claim to follow the same man even making him their God? strange.].

[b]he completely lost me when he said Jesus died. how? who reported it as a witness among his followers? a prophet of God that God allowed to ask Him a thing in prayer was never denied. the biblical Jesus prayed to God to protect his life. though he solved into 'Your Will oh God, not my will, Jesus who You sent'. the fact that he was allowed to make that prayer so loudly that his followers knew what he prayed for, it is enough to say God intended to grant him what he asked, to show that he was a true elect, because Moses prayed and yet God wanted him dead, God didn't kill him by installing his wife to uncover her hair, a physical sign of the reason [not that i believe the story because it will be illogical for God to want kill His Messenger before he delivered the message, and mere woman's hair will not stop God from accomplishing His Intention. the hair and the hair owner who just have been killed along if it was intended. but God allowed Moses to complete him mission without any of it unfinished before he was terminated][/b]. why would God killed or allow Jesus who clearly begged to be killed? the same Jesus everyone of the christians say is the most beloved, how do you allow your most beloved be put through what he does not want, by those who are the low lives while you have ability to protect and prevent? yet this is what you said God allowed.[/Quote]i hope you can read first 2 bold from agi tuedor's statement about prophets and then descending into only jesus that lessons must be learned from above? i also hope you can read my argument as bold following his wherein i pointed out to him that Moses, too, was a personality among others not mentioned that great lessons can be learned from his life. pastor, mo ro wipe awo to nbo yen o ti nse e ba kon. snub people who care for your bad manners. i do not care to much for your antics. at least you finally reveal that you don't know, meaning ignorant.
england does not do it after 1960s if you must know.

@Laalamed; « #2 on: Yesterday at 01:38:00 PM »
[Quote]Dude,u a vampire.all spriture is inspire of God.2tim 3:16,17.[/Quote]thats a lie. no one inspire paul anything. i can give you his opinion so that you will follow my observation to be able to see his deceitful way. God does not inspire and the person says this is my opinion.


[Quote]if u need more proof check 1 john 3:10-12 and 4:20,21.matt 26:52.true religion practices love.[/Quote]what was jesus practicing when he cursed the fig tree? the owner of the fig tree and definitely the tree, if they were asked to comment will say the curse is far from love. what was jesus practicing when he chased the money exchangers and overturned their tables; religion or what, love or hate? will the old men say jesus loved them? will jesus say he loved them? you chase people you love and turn around to overturn their table? what was jesus practicing when he said in his parable that they should bring people before him and slaughter them?
what was jesus practicing when he said i brought no peace but sword?
i avoided what the drowned pigs will say of the love that jesus practiced on them since you love the pig so much. i didn't talk about jesus statement about tearing apart families; parents against each other and against their children, each for him/herself. i am not talking about his rude statement about his mother [who is my mother?].

@Pastoraio; « #28 on: Today at 05:29:37 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 12:15:42 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^ agi-tuedor lost me when he failed to include Moses among those people lessons are to be learnt from their actions. these people are prophets of God. he lost me far more when he didn't include any of the 'sinless' persons ever recorded by his bibles; Job with all the calamities, sinless before, during and after the calamities [or can anyone name his sin?], father and son combo; Zacharias and John; people with patience and forbearance.

he completely lost me when he said Jesus died. how? who reported it as a witness

At last! This man has admitted that he is lost.[/Quote]and you are happy to the nth degree by your lie. i pity your soul. may Allah straighten it from where it is in the crooked zone.

is there no difference between you lost me [an expression to indicate a statement does not make any logical sense] and he is lost [a statement to indicate he followed the wrong way]?

those white boys in the grammar school dorms of your youth must have 'wounded' you so badly. o ga fun e, iwo aborisha lasan lasan yi. you can't even hide your hatred and speak the truth.

Alhamdulillah that i am lost to you. lost away from your evil ifa and all the orisha tio nbo. the muslims are calling you away from the path of spiritual destruction. you are stubbornly clinging to a stink. come clean. man.

@9jaPagan; « #37 on: Today at 09:07:55 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 08:44:23 PM
they become full time pagans, eg atheists, agnostics.

sweetnecta! if u call us Pagans, as atheists one more time, i swear by my Gods, i will curse u. Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

WE BELIEVE IN GOD Angry[/Quote]your curse is nothing to me. you are like to me until you come to Islam the way Abu Lahab or Abu Jahal or other idol pagans of Makka was to the noble messenger [as].

today, you stand in the stead of abu lahab. and i stand for Muhammad [as].

@congoshine; « #65 on: March 31, 2011, 10:20 PM »[Quote]
Quote from: uplawal on March 31, 2011, 08:04 PM
@Congoshine,pls i dnt need you on this,thank you.
MTF[/Quote]do you know more than this? enu ni wo omo de yi ni bi a je akara.
Agbani Durego is looking for a husband. you are in 9ja. she is in 9ja. nothing you have done about it.

empty mouth you. abeg run along and proof that you are a real and not a memorex.

@Lagosboy; « #5 on: Today at 02:23:04 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: MIrhABi on July 11, 2011, 08:37 PM
I've created this thread to allow our sisters in Islam address these listed issues concerning them,


1. I have heard of a particular trend amongst of our devoted sisters that really pisses me off,i learnt some of them don't like to tie the knots or date someone whose knowledge on the Holy Quran doesn't match theirs.

2. It takes time to even get good muslim sisters,and if you're lucky to see one there's no way you'll get her to talk rather they snub or ignore you.

3. They out rightly judge you by the way you dress,must i stop wearing jeans and T shirt because i want to date an hijab sister?.

Why is it so hard getting good muslim sisters?,i really don't understand.Please i would like to learn more from guyz on this.


It is becasue of they way they have been brainwashed by the mediocre islamic lecturers in their midst, who subtly teach them the level of their faith is a reflection of how they dress. I dress in jeans and t shirts and they are my favourites !![/Quote]As sSalaamualaykum wa Rahmatullah. Even in winter of old glory London, as to the bold? don't freeze up bro. there are wives in your future.

@Lolafowowe; As sSalaamualaykum wa Rahmatullah, sister. ^^^^^^^^^^ start the thread [trend], sister.
you can take from here to the whole world. it is a good thing to revive a sunnah.
a woman or a man can begin it. after all going good is rewarded, equally for both genders.

khadijah [ra] made the first move [interest of marriage] towards the gentleman and noble messenger [as].

^^^^^^^ he didn't say he was the lord of the universe when the bibles report that the devil said he himself the devil was the lord.


why not at that time? why was the biblical jesus silent and said nothing?

and the christians always say it is the satan that is the king of the world. why?

is it because biblical jesus said his kingdom is not of this world?

is jesus correct by the above in the bibles and you are wrong by your saying he is lord of the universe? is the world not part of the universe?


or maybe in your mind jesus and satan own your world, the part of the universe that you are talking about.


i am a muslim so i can ask questions. definitely, in islam neither jesus [as] nor satan [lana] is any lord of anything.

let the 3 gods people have their own bank. or banks. they can call it trinity or crusade bank.

they can have so many banks that when the muslims open their own bank, it becomes their banker; makng money for them and giving them free loan so that they can make more crusades, sending the soldiers of Jesus to trample all over them. converting them.

just maybe, the christians can stop stooping so low for everything britisher; hsbc

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Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 12:44:46 PM
@claremont; « #9 on: Yesterday at 09:52:11 PM »a simple man wrote the above and you dismissed it with bold, yet you proposed that God is not in existence. how did you come about that? i asked if you can create a fly? i didn't ask you if you can create something that rivals human being because i know that will be an open mockery of your inability to do that. can you tell me what you think s the reason that a man who ask God for something gets it? i can tell you the reason that those who did not get their request as simply because God does not want to grant them, at that time. God holds the Right to accept/answer a request or reject/not answer it, loosely in the same way you have the right to believe or disbelieve His existence. just because not all prayers are answered and you don't see God, neither points to His inability or non existence. after you don't see everything and your inabilities are many. part of your inabilities and seeing deficiencies is your not recognizing God that you can't see.

The burden of proof rests with those who claim the existence of a concept/deity to prove that it exists, and if they choose not to fullfil that burden, then it is logical and reasonable to conclude that the concept/deity in question does not exist. It's common sense really, no need to be a rocket scientist to figure that out.[/Quote]whats with england, because most africans who spend considerable amount of time there have a strange outlook to human issues, religious issues, etc. they are often very bent, far away from the norm. they become full time pagans, eg atheists, agnostics. listen, claremont. just because you are a bent person that your idea has to gel/acceptable to normal and rational mind[s]. we know england, the country that has wounded you emotionally did not appear from thin air. ask the Queen who by her pen can revoke your citizenship or ask that you be committed to 'aro' if God exists. the very reason she goes to church is her mistaken a mere man as son of God. imagine what she will do to you if she has no mercy in her heart if she were to come down on you because of your denial of the very same God?

christianity is part judaism. so your proverb verse does not make the grade.

@claremont; « #9 on: Yesterday at 09:52:11 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 08:05:39 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ here is the proof for you; claremont brain does not exist. i have not seen it. and when he says something that human beings can make sense of, which is not always often, it is by coincidence. most of the times what he says is always making a bad condition even worse. this is a proof that his brain is not existing. now it is better that he does not say anything because he will say will make things worse and confirm, again that he has no brain.

what i have done is to use your brain to repeat all the lies about praying to God and proof of His existence.


as a child i have received from my father without asking him; after all he paid my school fees. He realized that education is a right that i must enjoy.

yet as a grown man now, i can drive on the highways. but as a 4 year old, my father will not give me the wheel of the car on the highway. it is obvious that in my hands, that will be a dangerous weapon. so when said; dad please, pretty please, let me drive. he ignored me as if have said nothing. or he said no. both means the same thng. i have been refused or my plea or prayer was rejected.

in that instance, do i have a father, claremont? notice that my father was there, flesh and bones.

if a man s blind, all he had to do was listen to my father's voice. a deaf man will see my father. dead and blind can touch my father. yet my father did not grant me my wish or everyone of my wishes. this is my reality. you already assumed my father never existed.

my father knew what danger could come out of granting me an unreasonable request, never mind the future possibility that i may ask for worse.


if dying is one of the reasons to say the vile thing you said, imagine if people do not die and doing evil does not meet its reward. how can doing good receive its reward, too? if all of us are owners of thoroughbred horses, who will be the jockeys, stable hands, managers?

yet you see that your fingers are not equal. if they were equal, you will not be able to grip firmly as you do now. and you have the audacity that their Creator does not exist?

can you create a fly or you have fly as your ascendants, now?
I can barely understand what the singular point of your post is.[/Quote]a simple man wrote the above and you dismissed it with bold, yet you proposed that God is not in existence. how did you come about that? i asked if you can create a fly? i didn't ask you if you can create something that rivals human being because i know that will be an open mockery of your inability to do that. can you tell me what you think s the reason that a man who ask God for something gets it? i can tell you the reason that those who did not get their request as simply because God does not want to grant them, at that time. God holds the Right to accept/answer a request or reject/not answer it, loosely in the same way you have the right to believe or disbelieve His existence. just because not all prayers are answered and you don't see God, neither points to His inability or non existence. after you don't see everything and your inabilities are many. part of your inabilities and seeing deficiencies is your not recognizing God that you can't see.

^^^^^^^^^^^ agi-tuedor lost me when he failed to include Moses among those people lessons are to be learnt from their actions. these people are prophets of God. he lost me far more when he didn't include any of the 'sinless' persons ever recorded by his bibles; Job with all the calamities, sinless before, during and after the calamities [or can anyone name his sin?], father and son combo; Zacharias and John; people with patience and forbearance.

yet he centered his argument on Jesus who by today's evil world standard, one will see something wrong in killing the tree if he truly did [still finds the action very odd for a prophet of God, when part of his qualities is ability to bite his tongue, patience, persevere or ability to do without, etc], or the act that drowned the pig [the same pigs christians can get enough of, and this group lay claim to follow the same man even making him their God? strange.].

he completely lost me when he said Jesus died. how? who reported it as a witness among his followers? a prophet of God that God allowed to ask Him a thing in prayer was never denied. the biblical Jesus prayed to God to protect his life. though he solved into 'Your Will oh God, not my will, Jesus who You sent'. the fact that he was allowed to make that prayer so loudly that his followers knew what he prayed for, it is enough to say God intended to grant him what he asked, to show that he was a true elect, because Moses prayed and yet God wanted him dead, God didn't kill him by installing his wife to uncover her hair, a physical sign of the reason [not that i believe the story because it will be illogical for God to want kill His Messenger before he delivered the message, and mere woman's hair will not stop God from accomplishing His Intention. the hair and the hair owner who just have been killed along if it was intended. but God allowed Moses to complete him mission without any of it unfinished before he was terminated]. why would God killed or allow Jesus who clearly begged to be killed? the same Jesus everyone of the christians say is the most beloved, how do you allow your most beloved be put through what he does not want, by those who are the low lives while you have ability to protect and prevent? yet this is what you said God allowed.

is there any sense allowing your most cherished to be violated? most spouses will fight the illegal sex partner of their mates. yet what you have suggested about God regarding the so called death of Jesus for mankind or not, but his death anyways is worse than a spouse who allows his mate to be violated by scums while she was asking him to save or help from this horror. he actually can. he has all the means. but he was the one who left the door opened so that the animals can come in. he pointed to them where his wife was sleeping. and he saw everything. is there any justice here, or mercy or fairness?

^^^^^^^^^^^^ so if man didn't 'disobey' he would not have died?


imagine the trillions of people that will be alive today? when do you figure that man will over populate the earth, joe?

imagine no death and the earth remains the same; starvation and famine will not be able to kill anyone. so the hungry will be dry bones but will be alive. yes?

or there would not have any children of Adam and Eve, leaving the two legends all by themselves on this earth?

you gotta make a choice. if there was no sin and death according to the bible, Adam and Eve will have no reason for children and so they will be the two humans on earth forever or their children in generations would have over populated the earth by now that many will not have more than the space they are standing on. make a choice, maan.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ here is the proof for you; claremont brain does not exist. i have not seen it. and when he says something that human beings can make sense of, which is not always often, it is by coincidence. most of the times what he says is always making a bad condition even worse. this is a proof that his brain is not existing. now it is better that he does not say anything because he will say will make things worse and confirm, again that he has no brain.

what i have done is to use your brain to repeat all the lies about praying to God and proof of His existence.


as a child i have received from my father without asking him; after all he paid my school fees. He realized that education is a right that i must enjoy.

yet as a grown man now, i can drive on the highways. but as a 4 year old, my father will not give me the wheel of the car on the highway. it is obvious that in my hands, that will be a dangerous weapon. so when said; dad please, pretty please, let me drive. he ignored me as if have said nothing. or he said no. both means the same thng. i have been refused or my plea or prayer was rejected.

in that instance, do i have a father, claremont? notice that my father was there, flesh and bones.

if a man s blind, all he had to do was listen to my father's voice. a deaf man will see my father. dead and blind can touch my father. yet my father did not grant me my wish or everyone of my wishes. this is my reality. you already assumed my father never existed.

my father knew what danger could come out of granting me an unreasonable request, never mind the future possibility that i may ask for worse.


if dying is one of the reasons to say the vile thing you said, imagine if people do not die and doing evil does not meet its reward. how can doing good receive its reward, too? if all of us are owners of thoroughbred horses, who will be the jockeys, stable hands, managers?

yet you see that your fingers are not equal. if they were equal, you will not be able to grip firmly as you do now. and you have the audacity that their Creator does not exist?

can you create a fly or you have fly as your ascendants, now?

it should also be true since you and your researchers are not absolutely certain, therefore, that the prayers that are not answered are in direct ratio of its failure; coincidence.

since this failure is higher, then its coincidence is higher. hence the thought that support lack of importance of prayer fails miserably.

as much as i am not a christian, the christians on face value are better than those who do not factor God in their lives.

such an one, a Godless person is like a cattle. even worse. they lack soul. how could the have any soul when there is no hearts beating in their chest; they are dead and physically walking corpses.

even animals follow laws of nature. domesticated animals recognize their masters who provide the feeds.


the Godless is worse; he does not wonder what makes him better than an animal. who puts the fear of his sight in the heart of the most fierce animal. he forgets that with a mere flame of fire in hand, tiger and lion will run away from him.

how is the earth on its course rotating, and you a human being on it does not notice this? do you think there is no Controller, but it just happens? have you seen a building just happen, except there is a builder who builds it to the exact taste, perfect enough to solve the problem, a good solution for a previous problem?


i saw a bridge suddenly come alive so that my car and i do not have to ford a deep river to get to the other side. after i drove across the bridge, it dismantle itself and the pile of materials simply disappeared. this story that is so far fetched is easy for the heart to accept than to say there is no God. you see why i said the Godless has not heart? he may not have but an empty skull, with nothing, even macaroni in the emptiness.


And by the way many people work hard without no financial success to show for it. does it therefore mean that there is no work or there is no money?


silly statistician and his statistics and his analysis.

All acts of Ibadat is forbidden, unless it is made permissible; we know that all prostrations belongs to Allah.
but He allowed by command the prostrations of all angels to Adam. this was not forbidden then
but He allowed by dream coming true the prostration of Yaqub and his household to Yusuf. this was not forbidden then


All acts that are not Ibadats are permissible, unless it is made forbidden; we know we can eat all kind of foods unless forbidden.
we know we can beautify ourselves, especially women in every way, except what is forbidden.
women are to keep long hair. women are to not have artificial hair to make it long; which is fake.

how is straightening hair, which is merely loosening the curls artificial and become forbidden?

in the below site material, the sheikh advised the woman to let her hair get repaired instead of cutting it. note that he did not say in his answer that she should never have or not to use the relaxer.

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www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1119503547160, - Cyprus


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islam is easy; a proof of that is that even men who should not dye their gray black, but any other color, can dye it black to give appearance of youth in time of war if he is a soldier. youth is a sign of strength and the enemy will be weary of strong army.

All things that are not ibadat are permissible unless made haram. All ibadat are haram unless made permissible.

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For African women, is a hair relaxer jaiz. It straightens the hair to make it easier to take care of.

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It is permissible to use the hair relaxer in order to straighten the hair.

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also check out Questions; 2272, 2357, 9408, 6533; If a woman's hair is damaged due to frequent use of chemical based hair relaxer, can she cut it and grow it naturally so that she stops using it? note that the sheikh did not say don't the relaxer at all. but said; stop using the relaxer so that the hair could repairs itself instead of cuttingit.

Can the hair be cut in this case? If a woman's hair is damaged due to frequent use of chemical based hair relaxer, can she cut it and grow it naturally so that she stops using it?
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The reason furnished to cut the hair is not very valid. She should desist
from using the chemical-based product and, Insha Allah, the damaged hair
will repair itself overtime.

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Allah will replace them with better; from any part of nigeria or the world.

you are doing yourself a bad 'favor' and play the devil in the lives of those who accept your ignorant offer.


you can't even invite yourself to what is good. how are you useful to any soul?

invitation to take 'handmade' as master is the most 'non benefiting' invitation.

the pagan from northern nigeria forgets that the first man, Adam and the first woman, Hawa were believers in God Who created them. there is only one mistake that they made in all the many generations they lived. At that time generation was at least 1,000 years. so belief was first instead of paganism which was disbelieve that came later.

idolatry came after the flood of Noah [as]. the names of the first people believers carved into idolatry by the deceit of satan disguising himself as human adviser to people are mentioned in the Quran.

now to the yoruba obas; Adeyemi [Abdlhamid; lamidi] with yoruba traditional mark can't be a fulani because many a time the fulani were captured in wars. i met many ibadan people where northern people are now absorbed in because they were captives.


Awujale being a muslim does not mean he does not have his faults. i would not become a king because of the pagan rituals.


i think you forgot that many obas from ibadan, a majority of them have been muslims. ibadan, i can safely say is a muslim city, though it was baale they used to have before it became oba.


you are very naive. how many kings, okay emirs in the north who were from get go muslims, until islam came to the north? the king of agbor and or sabogida ora in edo is a muslim. how hard is it for you to know that a person may belief and lives among, in a disbelief setting?

the messenger [as] lived in makka at the height of disbelief. he prayed at kaaba, and the idols were there. he eliminated the idols out of the holy sactuary when he prayed, until Allah gave him victory to eradicate the who idols out of the place by destroying the last of them.


i had made salah and jumuah prayers in churches. i ignored their idols and concentrated toward Allah Alwadud.

^^^^^^^^^^ i will only respond to the 'women are your fields' question.

between men and women, men stand for both.

when you have a wife who is eager in her sexuality like you; then she will demand sex from you by making the first move.

she may mount you, and put you under her, rubbishing you on the floor, mat, bed.


satisfy? that is the answer to your question.

those who are not muslims are not pagans, either. they will say they are christians.

the Oba of lagos is a muslim. may Allah give him and all of us idaya. amin.

oba of ibadan, rarely anything else, but a muslim.

Alafin of Oyo; Oba Abdlhamid [the yorubas say lamidi].

Awujale of Ijebu ode; Oba Dhikru [the yorubas say sikiru].

where are you from pagan man? you are not yoruba and you know little about the yorubas, for sure.