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and the nato will abuse you. not only the hausas. but all nigerians.

if we have an able bodied 'president', he would have declared war on the menace called boko haram, because there is no haram in education. secular that is not anti islam.

a muslim woman must cover first.

she can relax her hair or wear it natural. either way, the whole body plus the hair remain covered as when in salah.

Allah is knows best.

[Quote]and which royalty r u related to i thought most of the Yoruba rulers were Obas and christian/traditional unless u r related to the emir of Illorin who is a Fulani emir. Tongue Tongue that means u r not even a pure Yoruba. Undecided[/Quote]yoruba obas are 'royalties'. same crown type like any royalty; queen of england for example.

i guess the pagan does not know what makes a royalty. oni of ife, alafin of oyo, awujale of ijebu ode, deji of akure, ojomo of owo, etc are just few of the royalties among yorubas. each has families of royal bloods and lineages.

[Quote]And so it goes on, some three hundred such sayings and stories, which Muslim culture was to ascribe to Jesus across a millennium of continuous fascination with his images and manifestations. At times he is a fierce ascetic, at other times he is the gentle teacher of manners, at yet others the patron of Muslim mystics, the prophet of the secrets of creation, the healer of the wounds of nature and of man.[/Quote]is any man more beloved or copied by muslims even on the same level and in the same attention as Muhammad the last Messenger of Islam [as]? no. there is nothing called islamic culture if it is different from Laa ila ha ilaAllah. this culture you talk about is always under the bigger umbrella; religion of islam. if you have all the culture and you do not have the religion, you are not a muslim. Muhammad [as] who slept on a straw mat that left its pattern on his skin, was hungry so much that he tied stone to his stomach so that he may look fed, etc, feeding on coarse wheat bread and water or salt was far ascetic. the best manner beloves to Muhammad [as] a statement that is made at the beginning of every friday preaching/sermon. i am not comparing the two masters; one is the master of the other. but i can not let you malign the master of all masters so that his subordinate may look good. and there is no mysticism since islam is complete and there is no addition or subtraction from what Muhammad [as] left. the Holder and Owner of the secrets of creation is also the Healer of the wounds of nature and of man. He is Allah Who creates all. when you usurp His Position and installs one of His creatures, you are actually an unjust soul.




[Quote]But back now to my sketch, to just a few other illuminations inside this lengthy historical record. In the tenth century A.D. we have the great Baghdad mystic al-Hallaj, whose life and crucifixion was called "The Passion of al-Hallaj" by the celebrated French Orientalist Massignon. If you want to take my word for it, you would regard him as one of the most Christ-like figures in human history, up there with Socrates, Gandhi and one or two of the greatest saints of mankind. What made al-Hallaj a Christ-like figure was total absorption in the life of the spirit, a realm lying beyond law, and an exploration of a reality that led him ultimately to claim identity with the divine. But at the same time, there is in him the unshakable willingness to submit to the law, even unto death. So he dies under the law, as it were, in order to rise above it, in order to triumph over the law. Thus, at one time he used to advise his disciples: "Why go on pilgrimage to Mecca? Build a small shrine inside your own house and circumambulate it in true faith, and it is as if you have performed the pilgrimage." The tension between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law endows the life of Hallaj with a Gospel-like aura, culminating in his trial, his tragic last days and his heart-rending crucifixion. The model of sanctity prefigured by al-Hallaj was to survive most notably inside Muslim mysticism where Jesus was to become a patron saint of Muslim sufism.[/Quote]Alhamdulillah. islam is vindicated. nothing of al hallaj is islam because he said the last of the 5 pillars of islam is not necessary. that statement makes him falls out of the fold of islam. there is nothing to desire from such a man.




[Quote]But let me move now to later times. The era of the Crusades, a two-hundred year war, pitted European Christian against Western Asian Muslim armies. And here was a chance for Muslim scholars to point to the glaring disparity between Jesus, the prophet of peace, and the barbaric conduct of his so-called followers. In the twelfth century, Jesus was once again reclaimed by Muslim polemics, once again reinvented, if you prefer, in order to stand shoulder to shoulder with the Muslims against his alleged followers. In the battle for the legacy of Jesus, there was no doubt whatsoever in Muslim eyes that the true Jesus belonged to Islam. It was in a sense a replay of the Qur'anic scenario, this time more urgent and dangerous.[/Quote]thi writer must really hate islam. but one thing though; is Jesus a christian [going to pray to God in the church or reading the Bible or if you wanna be so sentimental, reading the Gospel] by religion, a jew by religion [did he pray at the waiting wall] or a muslim [bowing his will and prostrating his face to God Who sent him? your answer with proofs will tell you if you as a christian truly follow Jesus or not.




[Quote]As we approach our own days, we observe that many of his earlier manifestations continue to dominate the spiritual horizons of contemporary Islam. Let me speak of only two major images: Jesus the healer of nature and man, and Jesus the Crucified. To encounter Jesus the healer, I invite my listeners to take a trip to to the Monastery of Sidnaya north of Damascus or to the Iranian city of Shiraz. The Monastery of Sidnaya was founded by the Byzantine Emperor Justinian in the 6th century AD. It sits on an outcrop of rock high above a valley. To this Monastery travels an endless stream of men and women seeking the blessings and healing of our Lady and her infant son. The vast majority of visitors are Muslim, who come to this Christian shrine as did their ancestors for a thousand years.[/Quote]these are muslims on the tongues and not from their souls. this act is an act of disbelief. Allah is The Healer. Just a moment ago, i finished my morning salah and began to have a headache. it is my custom to read surah Mulk after morning prayer before the sun is risen. as i began to read this surah, i began to rob my hand over my head, communicating with my Creator to give me healing. Alhamdullah. before i finished that short surah of 30 aya [remember the word aya?], my headache is gone. Allah says in the Quran [i will not give you the surah] that the Quran is a healing for believer. why will a believer go to the place you mentioned, above or anything similar, except they are not believers.




[Quote]A visit to Shiraz might come next. Here, the celebrated city, a treasure house of Muslim art and architecture and a garden-city of poets and mystics, is home also to a living Muslim medical tradition of healing, the tradition of the Masiha-Dam, the healing breath of Christ. This theme is already reflected in the poetry of the great Persian poet Hafiz, some seven hundred years ago. Thus, in both the literary as well as medical tradition of contemporary Iran, there runs a continuous preoccupation with the healing Christ figure. For Shii Islam, which dominates Iran, the martyrdom of Husayn, the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), in 682 A.D. is a central spiritual event. And for Shii Islam in particular, the life and death of Christ is a parallel spiritual event. The Christ/Husayn analogy is ever present in the religious sensibility of Shi'i Islam.[/Quote]if this is your argument, you have found no islam. the one most important to the muslims, Muhammad [as] died and many enemies of islam say he died of the poison of the jewish woman 2 or 3 years before. they forgot that Allah Who sustained him for that long, if He willed it then, his life could have been prolonged. even up to the end of time. But the Quran says every soul shall taste death. and when there was no more revelation, having completed and perfected Islam, why shall a messenger remained any longer? So the Powerful in combination of many things as He willed; old age, etc and the effect of so long ago poison [to make Muhammad a martyr], took the so of the Messenger [as]. Muhammad [as] was born on Monday and he used to fast that day. many in islam imitate him in this fasting. he died also on Monday. i do not fast on monday because it was the day of the week that he died. after all that was not his reason for fasting.




[Quote]I should now make mention of another poet, widely considered the greatest Arab poet of the twentieth century: the Iraqi Badr Shakir al-Sayyab. His life was one of exile, imprisonment, ill health and of total commitment to the cause of the oppressed; his was a poetry utterly Modernist in form but utterly classical in diction. In his verse one will find what is probably the most memorable impact of Christ on modern Arabic/Islamic literature. One poem in particular, entitled Christ after the Crucifixion is a Passion, a vision of Christ as lord of nature and redeemer of the wretched of the earth. At the risk of doing violence to its tight structure, I will give only its first and its final stanzas:[/Quote]from the arabs we have muslims. jews. christians. and others. unfortunately, from the muslims, we have ignorant people. hypocrites. and true believers. Allah talks about poets in the Quran. most of them say things that are untrue; Indeed,

26:221 Shall I inform you upon whom the devils descend?

26:222 They descend upon every sinful liar.

26:223 They pass on what is heard, and most of them are liars.

26:224 And the poets - [only] the deviaters follow them;

26:225 Do you not see that in every valley they roam

26:226 [b]And that they say what they do not do?[/b] -

26:227 Except those [poets] who believe and do righteous deeds and remember Allah often and defend [the Muslims] after they were wronged. And those who have wronged are going to know to what [kind of] return they will be returned.

i will also advise you to read Surah Ashuraa [Chapter 41].

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Jesus reinterpreted by the Qur'an is singled out, again and again, as a prophet of very special significance. Uniquely among prophets he is described as a miracle of God, an aya; he is the word and spirit of God; he is the prophet of peace par excellence; and , finally it is he who predicts the coming of Muhammad (pbuh) and thus, one might say, is the harbinger of Islam.[/Quote]reinterpreted, you mean the truth or do you intend to say Quran is lying? you need to come out, instead of you hiding in your own shadow; and shadow is not a place to hide, just like the web of a spider can't be the home of a man. aya means; sign, miracle, a word, a verse, etc. everyone is an aya of God. remember Khomeini? his name is aya[tuAllah]. and Islam was here before Jesus son of Mary [as]. You need truth instead of your half baked lies parading as something to lead to any truth.



[Quote]How did these earliest images of Jesus grow and develop inside Islamic culture? The Hadith or Prophetic Tradition of Muhammad (pbuh) depicts him as a figure who will come at the end of days to help bring the world to its end. He can now be said to bracket the era of Islam, standing right at its beginning and right at its end[/Quote]the most is untrue because Jesus is one of the signs of the end of time. i don't know how you ignore 'signs' instead say 'he will help bring the world to its end', as if God Who created it without any help suddenly to end it needs help.  



[Quote]But it is the rapidly growing literary tradition of Islam which now began to embrace the various images of Jesus current in the lands that Islam had conquered. There came together a corpus of sayings and stories attributed to Jesus which in their totality one could call the Muslim Gospel (a collection of these I have just published under the title The Muslim Jesus). Let me quote a few of these sayings and stories: "Jesus said, Blessed is he who sees with his heart but whose heart is not in what he sees". Here's another: "Jesus said, The world is a bridge; cross this bridge but do not build upon it". And here's a short exchange: "Jesus met a man and asked him, What are you doing? 'I am devoting myself to God,' the man replied. Jesus asked, 'Who is caring for you?' 'My brother,' said the man. Jesus said, 'Your brother is more devoted to God than you are'." And so it goes on, some three hundred such sayings and stories, which Muslim culture was to ascribe to Jesus across a millennium of continuous fascination with his images and manifestations. At times he is a fierce ascetic, at other times he is the gentle teacher of manners, at yet others the patron of Muslim mystics, the prophet of the secrets of creation, the healer of the wounds of nature and of man.[/Quote]i dont know what this christian writer is on, but it does no heart any good. the religion of islam is pure and whosoever brings anything to it of belief and worship, he is not part of us, says the master of all masters, Muhammad {AS}. any muslim who soaks anything outside Islam; Quran and Sunnah/authentic saying of the Messenger [as] has gone to what is rejected, until he leaves each and everyone of the things outside islam. is there a possible saying of Jesus son of Mary this man classified as corpus; muslim gospel? hardly any truth to these sayings; i want the writer to show us the book of hadith, section and hadith number of the last statement he made attributing to Jesus, because clearly it is not from Jesus. Jesus didn't have many believers around him; the awariyuun. his islam was not popular and not readily accepted by the disbelievers; the yahuud. was the man a follower of Jesus, one of the 12 or not, because at that time whosoever did not follow Jesus was a disbeliever? this believer versus disbeliever was the reason the disbeliever was able to overwhelm the handle of followers who ran as they saw the hordes of potential killers coming towards them. thank Allah Who protected His messenger, Isa bin Maryam [as]. what is very interesting is that Musa [as] participated by Allah's Mercy on muslim, in arriving at the final number of daily salah. this is a more direct impact on the muslim community. yet the christians don't argue about that. they quietly forget that Jesus said that he came to live out what Moses was give, the life he had lived. Muhammad lived a life that is the best that Jesus, Moses, Abraham and Noah [AS} to name just 5 out of 124,000 messengers and prophets from Adam the first man to Jesus the last before Muhammad [as], lived. no wonder the Jews often say the christians are idolaters and hypocrites.

[Quote]The Qur'an is the axial text of Islamic civilization, and it is of course where we must begin for Islam's earliest images of Jesus. Approximately one third of the Quranic text is made up of narratives of earlier prophets, most of them Biblical. Among these prophetic figures, Jesus stands out as the most puzzling. The Qur'an rewrites the story of Jesus more radically than that of any other prophet, and in doing so it reinvents him. The intention is clearly to distance him from the opinions about him current among Christians. The result is surprising to a Christian reader or listener. The Jesus of the Qur'an, more than any equivalent prophetic figure, is placed inside a theological argument rather than inside a narrative. He is very unlike his Gospel image. There is no Incarnation, no Ministry and no Passion. His divinity is strenuously denied either by him or by God directly. Equally denied is his crucifixion. A Christian may well ask, what can possibly be left of his significance if all these essential attributes of his image are gone?[/Quote]it is the the essence of the religion of islam under Muhammad [as]. islamic civilization is under this very islamic religion.
biblical prophet you said? they are human prophets. the bible, you will agree is not a revelation to any prophet, while taurah is, to Moses, sabur is, to David and Injl is, to Jesus son of Mary. Allah declares that Ibrahim is not a jew or a christian, but a true believer [hanifan], muslim. by this very verse, the biblical claim that you made of the 'prophets' of God, above is rendered useless. from Ibrahim onward, all prophet born came from his family two branches; Ismail {AS} and Isiaq {AS}. and nothing that was said of Jesus son of Mary that was not true; he was not a God or son of God, since God is not part of His creations and there are some restrictions he puts on Himself and there are things not fitting His Majesty on one hand and He does not have a spouse to bear Him any child and what purpose does a child like that will serve anyhow? if a man did not die is it not better to know this than to ignorantly accept a lie like that as fact? who is better in Knowledge that the Creator? Jesus was not maligned or down graded by the truth about him in Islam. after all, he says among the remnant of the truth left in the gospel as you find it in the bibles that an another comforter, a spirit of truth coming from God, shall hear from God and repeat just that to man. in that process, he will correct prevailing mistake on ground. is saying God is a human anything other a complete mistake that needs correction?

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Jesus through Muslim eyes

In the year 630 A.D, the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) achieved one of his most cherished goals: the occupation of Mecca and the subsequent cleansing of the city from idol worship: it was at once a political and a religious victory of immense symbolic importance. Mecca had been declared the centre of the new faith; its conquest was therefore the fulfillment of a divine promise.

Entering the Ka'ba, the square structure which housed the city's idols, Muhammad (pbuh) ordered all its icons cleansed or destroyed. One of the icons in what must have been a very mixed gallery of divinities was a Virgin and child. Approaching the Christian icon, Muhammad (pbuh) covered it with his cloak and ordered all the others washed away except that one.

Fact or fiction? The question is immaterial. The report I cited is at least 1200 years old and therefore belongs to some of the earliest strata of Muslim historical writing.[/Quote]the Question is not immaterial and this is why all the bold are purely false. you can drop a lie and make it a hint that we in islam and our human leader, Muhammad [as] who is also the leader of Jesus son of Mary [as] revered idolatry. Jesus is no more than a human messenger and prophet to the children of Israel. there is no permission for icons and Jesus and his mother as icon of paganMakkans and that of Christians have the same end in the hands of muslim; total destruction.



[Quote]What this episode illustrates is the fact that between Islam and the figure of Jesus Christ there exists a literary tradition spanning a millennium and a half of a continuous historical relationship -- a preoccupation with Jesus that may well be unique among the world's great non-Christian religions. To do full justice to this record, I would need a far larger canvas than the one available to me today. Instead I can only hope to draw a sketch of the contours of that relationship; to point to only a few of its highest peaks, its defining moments.[/Quote]islam under Muhammad is less than 1450 years, from the first piece of Quranic revelation, till today. 1.5 millennium is 1500 years. where did you import your 50 plus years from? When Allah says He is One, Unseen, Unique in every sense and not part of the creation, we knew right there if not before that Jesus was no more than an apostle and those who make him more are in the wrong. Ibrahim [AS] the father of faith and a friend of Allah has a higher position from the station he occupies in heaven than Jesus who was in the 2nd heaven wit his cousin John, son of Zakariah [as to each of the prophets]. and you cn draw any picture that you want; you must know that every soul [human] is a word from God.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ without reading the major parts of what you penned or copied, the below highlighted go against the Quran.

[Quote]Badr Shakir al-Sayyab, Christ after the Crucifixion

This is a poem of salvation, political and theological, a poem that interweaves, in a apocalyptic voice, the Jesus of the Gospels and the risen Christ triumphant, a Jesus who is lord of the wretched of the earth and a Christ who is lord and healer of nature. It is a poetic gospel in miniature, a vision of Christ in suffering and ultimately in victory.

So: I think it can safely be shown that Islamic culture presents us with what in quantity and quality are the richest images of Jesus in any non-Christian culture. No other world religion known to me has devoted so much loving attention to both the Jesus of history and to the Christ of eternity.[/Quote]a muslim who disagrees with the Quran is a disbeliever by his disagreement, worse a hypocrite. Allah says [and Only he knows the condition of jesus] that they did not kill him and they did not crucify him. this alone is enough for a believer.

But in the mercy of God, He further says that those who say otherwise are saying it without any evidence and out of their own desire, for certainly they did not kill him and they did not crucify him.

wonder how Jesus is savior, lord, etc; what the poet called him?

am certain from your woven presentation that you are a christian. Islam stands on One; Quran from God. The explanation is from Muhammad [AS].

here is a video of a little boy leading a community that includes many older men with greater islamic scholarship. please watch it and answer the below question after you understand or observe the whole setting;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSOHwncUxsY

is this little boy leading because he is the most knowledgeable? if he is the most knowledgeable, for sake of argument, why wouldn't the older men refuse to line up behind him? after all they can use his youth to get him out of leading. but they are behind him in prayer the most important act of worship.

if he is not the most knowledgeable, why are those with greater knowledge behind him, allowing him to be the leader? we can say because he is arab because there are many arab looking, including his father i will propose in the congregation.

if his age and his level of knowledge are not element of disadvantage, and his being an arab is not an advantage, you can now begin to understand that a northern nigerian muslim who says a muslim from other part of the country is not a muslim lacks islamic understanding and it is his/her ignorance that will make him/her utter such false statement.

@Umechuma; « #31 on: July 02, 2011, 12:47 PM »
[Quote]The author of this letter is assumed to be southern by his name(Ambassador Abdulrazaq Oyebanji Hamzat) who is also not considered as true Muslim by his northern fellow counterpart because of his liberal views on what Islam is all about.A northern Muslim is a conservative and understands Islam differently from a southern Muslim.Therefore this letter is only relevant in the south and total nonsense in the north.[/Quote]if i say you are not who you really are, does my saying so really changed you? that as bad as it is to you and completely dishonest from me, it is not as evil as any muslim being denied of his or her being a muslim, by anyone.

there is no arab that can deny a muslim his/her islam. so there is no nigerian northerner that can deny a muslim his/her islam. no one is a muslim for a northerner, a community that has christians and pagan in them. they have good and bad muslims just like any society; we have seen some of them stealing and doing evils that islam forbids, in ekiti state from an on going thread on nairaland. so to say northerners determine who are muslims or who are not from other areas of nigeria is the collective ignorance of those northerners and people who accept their ignorant notions.

i think you should be better than that, knowing fully well that islam does not begin and end in the north. it is a global movement and anyone can be part of it and get the benefits.

nigeria needs a propaganda machine to beat back the bad teeth english liars. nigeria needs to act fast. maybe the president can take off his cool hat so that the brain that has been unused can finally conceive ideas that he can command the governance to act upon.

fighting the haraam people known as boko haram and the hordes of low lives called almajiris who have never seen a life that they do not want to waste, is good for nigeria. islam rejects evil and true muslims must fight evils of these people who are giving my religion a bad name. and if they nigeria, they can move to any country of their choice. and islam already rejects their evil; all they have to do is read the Quran to know.

^^^^^^^^^^ you may just as well shake the cyber dust at me.

but in all of that, you didn't answer the many questions that i raised from the 3 verses. these were just what i saw without having to read the verses but just casually. defend you religion by proving it with clear evidence. i guess you dont have any, sine jesus you said will judge the living and the dead, yet it is the 12 followers that will judge the not living and dead 12 tribes of israel, i guess if jesus position is to hold, yet God will Jude all through jesus. each verse makes the others lies.

man. make up your mind and stop inviting anyone into confusion, if you choose to be in it for a lifetime.

where is islam in all of the stealing and cutting of people ask questions from these thieving fulanis? i think the community should gang up on them, because those who do evil should be fought and pushed back. islam is not a religion of faith without action of the faith. the thieves and murderers are giving islam a bad image. shame on these people.

thieving and killing of innocent people neither one of them is part of islam.

^^^^^^
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@ Sweetnecta,

I pray your eyes are opened before the appearing of Jesus Christ. But shall you claim ignorance on his day or say "I never heard the gospel"defintely not for you have heard it at least through NL but you are free to either accept or reject.[/Quote]i am very satisfied at the rejection. mashaAllah.



[Quote]"In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge." - 2 Timothy 4:1[/Quote]who is the 'one' 2 timothy 4;1 talking about God or Jesus? please read the verse very thoroughly before you respond. who judges the living and the dead; God or Jesus? who is the boss; God or Jesus, because one is the boss of the other? if its Jesus, what is God and if its God, what is Jesus and who really has power and who is faking power?



[Quote]]"Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when[b] the Son of Man[/b] sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or motherf or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life."- Matthew 19: 28 - 29[/Quote]it is son of man from the lips of Jesus, unless that verse is mistaking, Jesus is no son of God.accordingly, there is a glorious throne, for Jesus, so i ask what Throne belongs to God since God is different from Jesus when you read 2 timothy 4;1, above? now there are 12 thrones for his followers. the whole christian population is 12, since they are the ones who follow him? these 12 christians are to judge the 12 tribes of israel. i am not an israel tribe man, so i will not be judge by any of the 12 judges. but above, in 2 timothy 4;1, it states Jesus judges the living and the dead. this verse of matthew 19;28 proves it wrong because the whole community of christianity, numbering a mere 12 entities shall judge the 12 tribes of israel. are the 12 tribes neither living nor dead, being of different category altogether? please explain. finally, it s amusing that this statement of matthew 19;28 was made before it was stated judas iscariot betrayed him. please name the 12 judges because i am certain that judas iscariot must be among them, and if you replace him, you will have explain it from the context of jesus said in matthew 19;28 and no other verse allowed.



[Quote]This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares. - Romans 2: 16[/Quote]roman2;16 disagrees with 2 timothy 4;1 and matthew 19;28; neither one mentions God as the Judge, alone nor through Jesus. both both even differ with each other and with romans 2;16 in plain view we now have 3 scenarios of the day of judgement only on who will judge! this is pure confusion. but i am willing to read your trying to untangle yourself out of the pickle you 'jar' yourself.

and i don't judge all ishagamu people by their ogboni membership. is every ishagamu people a member of ogboni?

and the ogbonis have never seen a way to kill a person for their rituals and just walk away without doing the killing.

somebody is judging Islam by boko haram, al qaidah, etc. i don't get it. it has to be a christian boko haram that will do this.

shouldn't boko haram, al qaidah, etc be judged by Islam?

i don't judge the christianity by the christians. rather i look at the christian as a good or wishy washy christian by christianity. thats more logical since all christians get their grade from christianity and not the other way around.

whats next; i have to be blamed for what a dead head from shagamu did in london? i dont even know the guy. there is at least 5,000 miles between he and i. his evil is from his own soul. inchaAllah whatever will make me evil has been arrested by my Creator. only good deeds shall i do. Amin.

next. . .

guess when you have nothing to say, call him olodo. epadi ore da, ijebu o nku boro.

disclaimer; i am also an ijebu man, not remo though.

^^^^^^^^^^ [Quote]« #34 on: Yesterday at 11:28:52 PM »

Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 11:09:50 PM
the most important in Islam and all things else centered around and point to Laa ila ha ila Allah. tell me how that is arabism, you pagan man?

La Ilaaha Illa Allah Muhammadan Rasuwl Allah.
There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.
Muslims call this kalimat tayyiba, “the best word.”

This is not found written like this, anywhere in your Koran! However, they are found in several verses. But they are broken into two parts; they are never together as one sentence. “Laa Ilaaha Illa Allah” is found alone in Koran 37:35 and 47:19, and in Koran 33:40 and 48:29 “Muhammadan Rasuwl Allah” is found alone.

This is how it is written in the Koran of the Muslims. They are never found in the same place! Yet, the flag of Saudi Arabia (photo), which is where “the holy of holies” sit, in Mecca, has the same declaration, “the Kalimat Tayyiba,” written on it.[/Quote]there is no wow [w] in the sentence or phrase Rasul Allah or Rasulullah. it shows that you are dubious, bent on spreading deceit about Islam. if you weren't, the better thing was to ask muslims. and it is Quran, not koran. you will not like it if i intentionally misspell you name. you forgot that i said Laa ila ha ilaAllah and nothing else. read before you respond, because Muhammad Rasulullah, Salah, Zakat, Sawm, Hajj and everything else ordained and prohibited are all under Laa ila ha ilaAllah. and we dont have 'holy of holies' and nothing sits in Makka. don't turn slam to judaism or christianity by your stark ignorance. ask the muslims before you pen anything about islam. go to those who know or are you going to teach muslims their religon by inventing lies?



[Quote]Many of their Islamic books, posters, and leaflets don this man-made verse. However, if you or I were to take two verses from the Koran, and put them together to create one sentence, like “La Ilaaha Illa Allah,” they would call it shirk (associating partners with Allah) and have a heart-attack saying “as-taghfir Allah, hum min al kaafiriyn” meaning “seek forgiveness in Allah, they are disbelievers” or they will seek to kill you![/Quote]'verse' as you have expressed it, is your own making. you need to stop pretending that you know anything about islam. in Surah Munafiqun, 63 verse 1, Allah says of Himself as to the position of Muhammad. 'When the hypocrites come to you, [O Muhammad], they say, "We testify that you are the Messenger of Allah ." And Allah knows that you are His Messenger, and Allah testifies that the hypocrites are liars', we in islamin the lifetime of Muhammad and up to now make big and small Adhan calling people to prayers and establishing them 5 times a day saying Ashadua laa ila ha ilaAllah [twice], then Ashadua nna Muhammadanr rRasulullah [twice]. what is your complaint, you complainer? who told you that the flag of saudi arabia is the flag of islam under Muhammad [AS]? i'm certain there is no sword or writing on any of the flags.

@belabela; « #52 on: June 27, 2011, 03:14 PM »
[Quote]@ Sweetnecta
I so much appreciate your zeal to stand up for what you believe but the problem I have with you is that you are sincerely wrong. I am not sure if you have ever being to Mecca or lived in Saudi Arabia but let me tell you my encounter with a very faithful Muslim from Riyadh in one of my few times around

I asked did the Quaran talk about Jesus?

Reply: Yes[/Quote]in truth, unlike the way the bibles talk about Jesus.



[Quote]I asked Where is Jesus according to the Koran?

Reply: He is in heaven but he didn't die like Christians claim]/Quote]it is Quran, not Koran. you didn't ask him about death, so i dont know why he was adding that. jesus was lifted to heaven. his present condition from that time is not by business.



[Quote]I asked Is there any chance that Jesus would return to the world according to the Koran?

Reply: Yes he would come back to judge the world and destroy the Antichrist[/Quote]you arab man knows less about his religion the reason he said Jesus will return to judge. Judgment is Allah's Alone. Jesus is a messenger.



[Quote]At that point I said to this faithful Muslim "and Jesus would judge Mohammed too!" I continued and said if you believe there is an Antichrist who is the Christ?

There was no answer.[/Quote]Jesus can't judge me and it is impossible to judge his master in prophetic mission. read surah Al Maida and you will know the condition of jesus. read surah Maryam and the one who will be given the right of intercession, first is Muhammad [AS]. again, your arab man shows what we already know; islam is not arab religion.



[Quote]I leave you with these words "If your holy book says that Jesus would someday judge the world why don't you take time and know more about Jesus."[/Quote]show me where in the Quran that it is stated Jesus will judge the world. show me in your bibles that jesus says he will judge the world and the Judge is not God Who sent him. and i already have Jesus beside me. me and Jesus are together as muslims lining behind Muhammad [as], our leader our imam.[/quote]

@Sagamite; « #343 on: Today at 09:05:22 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 08:58:45 PM
ara oko. you do not see that you are the terror master, accusing innocent souls of evil? is there no honor in your body? when you lie against innocent people you are terrorizing them. you should be ashamed of your evil self.

It is your silly arse that should be ashamed of yourself for excusing evil with lame points like "If their religion does not stop them from doing bad, it is the same as cutting of people's head based on religious duty" and you lame lies about what is and is not in the Quran.

You are a Terrorist![/Quote]pemi ni oruko tio nshe temi ni oju oba sonuga, or the sonugas and the oshinugas. wan tembee i wo ara oko yi. i have no more use for you, bush man thinking mind that you carry.

i am not responsible for the evil a man commit, just in the same way that i will not be punished for the fault of Adam [as] and that of Eve. you can falsely accused me, until God allows your lies to catch up with you and over runs you. the faults and of christians that you have to knowledge of it before it is committed i do not blame you. how can i when it is not that you can stop it. yet it is what your evil mind is blaming me and every muslim for.

the most important in Islam and all things else centered around and point to Laa ila ha ilaAllah. tell me how that is arabism, you pagan man?

@pagan9ja; « #337 on: Today at 09:30:29 AM »
[Quote]by looking at all the above posts, now im really convinced that islam n christianity are the work of the devil. Shocked Shocked[/Quote]but you worship this very devil, because it is his evil conning ways that have led you to make [shape] a thing by your own hands and knowledge and then impose it as your master; god. Alhamdulillah. you must have heard muslms say 'audhoubIllahi mnal shaytourni rajim'. it means i seek Protection of god against the accursed devil. incidentally, it is the christian who says the soul of Jesus is accursed for their sake. tell them to read their bibles to refute me while you pick up the Quran and read that shaytourn is damned.


@don33310 « #338 on: Today at 10:52:12 AM »
[Quote]The acts of islamic fundamentalists must be condemn by muslims.[/Quote]there is nothing wrong with fundamentalism. it is evil done while people think it is based on it that we must and are condemning, always. i am a fundamentalist for example following Muhammad [as], shunning all distractions, and do not listen to evil talks and dont accept that islam is responsible for evil committed by somebody agitated to do evil because of his or her own desire and then people or they want to pin it on islam just like christians struggle to pin their sins on innocent Jesus, or making him a son of God when his mother they will deny her to be His wife or making 3 gods to be 1 God or saying God died or God lacks full knowledge so He must come as human to experience how humans feel. each of them, in all situations and conditions can't be right. no muslm can justify evil by using the Quran or Hadith, unless he or she is deficient in knowledge in that area the reason he or she needs to learn or she or he is mentally and emotionally unstable.


@Sagamite « #339 on: Today at 02:05:38 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 12:50:53 AM
@Sagamite; « #332 on: Yesterday at 07:54:43 PM »i hope not all non muslims from shagamu are as naive as you? and you live in england. you must not have improved even with this opportunity because dont see what will make you call me a terrorist in the above. maybe you can tell the world what warrants such an outburst?

I don't negotiate with terrorists. One should just blow them up with drones before they blow anyone up and say Islam was offended.[/Quite]ara oko. you do not see that you are the terror master, accusing innocent souls of evil? is there no honor in your body? when you lie against innocent people you are terrorizing them. you should be ashamed of your evil self.


[Quote]« #340 on: Today at 02:07:53 PM »

The likes of Sweetnecta and LagosShia kill more people:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14009284

Basically, you are guaranteed a new one every 2 weeks. Undecided[/Quote]evil soul accusing innocent people of evil.[/quote]

^^^^^^^^^^ islam is kind to animals in ways including all that you listed and more and even when the animals is to be slaughter for food. you do eat meat, or dont you? i hope you slaughter them, and not just whack its head with your handmade ogun god of the iron or something similar?

you need to learn about islam and not you find from the ignorant almajirins, boko haram and hypocrites parading as islamic scholars all who are giving islam a bad image. and you dont have to learn about islam from those liberal who put on gold in their teeth and wear tons of gold, both impermissible.

islam is learned from the people with the right temperaments, moderate and correct in all their actions. you find them among the ordinary hausas, still since you are a hausa. if you leave in the north, it will be many, many of them.

if you live in the south and you want to restrict yourself to the hausa knowledgeable persons, find the ones who will pray with and allow non hausa person to lead him in salah. thats a sure sign that you are getting somebody. not a guy who waits to get to sabo masajid before he make salah, though a masjid is around at the time the salah became due, but not the sabo hausa only congregation or imam, hence he does not observe salah on time.

muslims talk to their animals, wash them, clean them, touch them with their hands as if to make it belong, knows the it is loved by the owner. no muslim should let any animal suffer.

animals complained to the messenger [as]. he calmed them down, reassuring them and advised their owners of kindness to them. wolf spoke about his arrival in madina to a jewish shepard. fox mother caught in a snare of a jew whose cry was an earshot of the messenger [as] received mercy from him. he released her, as she promised to return so that her litters can meet the honorable soul. after he released her, standing at the trap, waiting, the jews who also heard her cry arrived. the messenger told him and didn't believe it, until the fox and her children arrived and kissed the feet of the messenger [as]/

this is a proof among many that Muhammad [as] is the messenger and the human mercy to all creation. if you notice, there is no place it has been narrated that he needed anyone to tell him in arabic anything said in a foreign tongue. Allah Himself made Muhammad [as] His Beloved understand the very statement made at that time.

the likes of EzeUche will never stand up for nigeria. even for his igbo ethnic people. when the rabid yanks see your women, they will pillage them. they destroy what doesn't look like them.

i pity the spineless men who are really not one. maybe we have one residing in aso rock, who should have asked our security chief to respond the bad teeth brits on their claims. and also order the aggressive combat of those who are bent in creating disorder inside nigeria.

@lucenzo; « #2 on: July 02, 2011, 08:02 PM »
[Quote]Five kids. Now this is a yooroba folk. If it was an igbo person, ystranger and his yooroba CREW  would aready have been here spilling shits[/Quote]for an educated young nigerian in 2011 not to know how to write correctly the name of a major ethnic group like 'yoruba', instead writing so way out in the left; yooroba is pitiful.

whats with the youth of today? will you not share the same nation with the yorubas that you butcher their identity regardless of how simple it is to write the word?

just a side note; britain should be happy to have her as their guest. they should use her and her children to advertise their tourism agenda. that way she more than pay for the 200,000 plus pounds the bilk from them, while britain had gobbled up everything they could legally by their own standard take from nigeria and other nations of africa.

alhamdulIllah. i think the english are backward thinking, and my reason for never wanted to study in that archaic nation. america would have been very cheery about this; where england sees somewhat empty cup, america will see somewhat full cup.

my only disappointment is that nigeria does not have a medical capability to handle the type of situation she went to england for. unfortunately, she has a man who couldn't stand beside her.

Quran is a recitation. please watch the below video to the end to know that it is the sound with accent that matters. the written was latter developed to produce or rather identify each alphabet.


http://www.thedeenshow.com/show.php?action=listvideo&sid=49&id=667



http://www.thedeenshow.com/show.php?action=listvideo&sid=49&id=557

it is interesting to note that all of us in islam read warsh musaf and read hafs after it and accept pronunciation of both. some say aa, other may say ee. we hear it and both are correct.

@Sagamite; « #332 on: Yesterday at 07:54:43 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 02:31:59 PM
^^^^^^^^^ you need education in 'reality', and live in uk of all places.
temporary marriage is not permissible in Islam. you may have to provide your proof. and the lust in your mind, no christian is free of it and none has ever carved out his/her 'mind' in following Jesus' commandment to cut of any part that will make you sin. there shows the hypocrisy of the christians. Alhamdulillah, mere thought that human falls into is not a sin if not carried out. if carried out, and repentance follows and good deeds are done, Allah promises His Mercy. Now that is True Mercy. unlike a mere thought how ever brief is recorded as a sin, already.

in the world over, men see women, women see men as sex objects. Christian fact that may not be limited to christians, alone; sex sell. [Test driver her now is an advert where in a woman in skimpy bikinis straddle a car. which one is a man to test drive?]

you dont live in saudi arabia. you live in england; fact; england has more homosexuals and other intimate deviants than today's bad egg saudi arabia.

while this is bad, they are unfortunately adopting the bad and the ugly sides of the christian west. greater facts; mercury morris, a popular british rock star was one of the earliest death recorded in hiv/aids epidemic. amsterdam's red light districts, and many places are unrivaled by the decaying arabs. when it is a thing accepted, there will not be a real notice, though controversial. but the same thing will be documented from regions where it is not supposed to even present. May Allah give back all muslims on the straight path of Islam. Amin.

in the christian west, it is a common thing. they are now importing it to africa. the poor muslims are taking what are bad and ugly from the chrstians. these are the facts, maann.

in England, it is a common thing so there is no shame. may Allah forgive all the sins of the muslims. Amin.

i know the woman's body parts do nothing to you. face is what many africans say they Be Intimate with to mean it is what gets you first to be interested. and the women use their hair as a thing of beauty. i know now that you are either naive about the opposite sex, or a hypocrite or something else entirely. there is no real man on earth that will say one of the two you listed is not a plus on a woman about her sensuality.

i am thinking you are not interested in sex and more sex and more sex, still, with your spouse? you and paul the eunuch are on your own. no christian man, except Same-sex is not interested or Be Intimate, sex, sex on his mind. so are the christian women.

Terrorist, is it everything you have to compare with Xtians?[/Quote]i hope not all non muslims from shagamu are as naive as you? and you live in england. you must not have improved even with this opportunity because dont see what will make you call me a terrorist in the above. maybe you can tell the world what warrants such an outburst?

the pagan man runs from pillar to post, without end. he rambles without definite thoughts. the messenger [as] said a person should be kind to his animal, even before and while slaughtering it.

this is different from the ogun worshipers who will stretch the body of the dog they are about to behead that the dogs is dying of strangulation before the machete is lowered to guillotine the poor animal.

kai. pagan. you are unjust. you lie against slam.