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^^^ This is my way of rubbishing you. Sometime there is truth in a joke; its called the punch line.

If I give you hindu women and i take off from your community the excess women so that they will not be old hags without mates, is that not goodness all the time?


You are a one wife husband. And if you are divorced from her, neither one of you if fit for any marriage, again. We say to her, her life does not have to end at 23 or thereabout because your gods saddle you with burdens restricting you with heavy duty stray jackets.

Your women do not have to suffer along with you. We in Islam give them a way out, that is wholesome, natural and no human in his or right mind can find in it any evil.

Oh. I am neither in a hurry nor marry for marrying sake. I pace masef because marriage is for ever.

Hello everyone. To all the christians, a big hello to you, specifically their big wheels on Nairaland; Aletheia, Davidylan, Frosbel, Olaadegbu, Plappville, etc who have been trying so hard to discredit Islam through any means and going to any length to lie against Allah, The Religion, Quran, The Last Messenger Prophet [as], etc. They think through this effort, this way they can win souls away from Islam and thereby swell up the ranks of the christians.

They went to the extends of saying that Allah is an idol [an idol incidentally discovered in the jewish people's home land, whereas Islam under Muhammad [as] was nurtured in Makka and Madina], and even Islam was another form of christianity, created by the vatican, and many other statements including that Muhammad [as] can never be a prophet because it is only the jews that must be prophet, because they are Abraham's blood through Isaac the child of promise. But Muhammad was from Ishmael the child God Himself Named and promise to bless him. Does anyone think that such blessing shall be only in head counts, petrol dollars, because others who are not from promised blood have these blessings. Could it not be spiritual blessings, not making them idolaters, and elevating them to a people the world acknowledge their spirituality, if nothing else? How moon god idol is not the properties of either the Jewish pagans , whose property it was excavated, went into paganism with the creation of a golden idol which i will imagine that they must have named Yahweh, in spite of all the goods that God did for them through Moses and Aaron or the christians who also have their roots in Palestine of the jews. The jews didn't stop their idolatry love affairs, even so much so that they said that King Solomon the wise was himself an idolator. They were later divided into nations of judah and israel as punishment after the death of Solomon and the christians continue their paganism till today in the form of cross wearing and making man and ghost into God[s], while God in heaven in their father.

The jews didn't stop idolatry in one form or the other, so much in love with it that they killed prophets of God because were the ones asking them, reminding them to return to the path that God intents for mankind, they being the leading tribe, to lead other people. They were so selfish that they erroneously kept God as a tribal possession on one hand and on the other not obeying the Commands of God. They device and maintain it to this day by worshiping idols in form of their rabbis and scholar when they obey them instead of obeying Yahweh, so much so that they developed a different kind of religion which they anchored on Judah, one of the sons of Jacob who was Israel, instead of the religion of Abraham and his household which was the same religion of Noah, and righteous people, all the way to Adam and Eve. They were so far away from truth that Jeremiah had to tell them that they cant be righteous because their scholars have doctored the road map to righteousness. Do they think God will not be fed up with them and at a point leave them altogether, still maintaining His Promise to Abraham by going to the other branch of his family? God is Just and Absolute Justice belongs to Him.

At long last God raised a last prophet in the person of Jesus for them, to guide their tribes and nations by returning to the righteous path, so that they can guide the tribes and nations of the world. Instead, they rejected Jesus en-mass with only a few accepting him as a prophet. The jews, plotted to kill him and they boasted that they succeeded in doing so. When he finally emerged and appeared to the few who followed him after his ordeal in the hands of jews and european gentiles, these followers or some other person developed the idea that he is God because he returned to life, cheating death. Is this and any or all that he did enough reason to say unequivocally that he is God Almighty or rather an elect of God, like those who were previously elects of God? I will like the proofs and evidences that support the christian claims, especially to be anchored on the claim that he cheated death, since many have cheated death in this generation. But those who cheated death soon meet the same death when God assigns the permanent death on them. Was Jesus dead or will he be returned to earth for many reasons, including a permanent death?

We in Islam say no God will look like you and I. No God will die even for a moment because death is for the mortal. I will stop here and encourage the christians to remember all that they say the bible says about Jesus and whatever makes them to be christians. I want them to use all of these and even more as tools of inviting me if not all muslims to the religion of Christianity.

My heart is open but not devoid of reasoning. I will ask them questions that demands them to reason, and reality, etc. If you bring up God that is Unique and nothing is unlike to Him, I will worship Him. I will not listen a ghost inviting me to christianity just because he takes a form of a man that i do not have his true picture, when I can simply shame the ghost by saying audubIllahi minal shaythani rajim to it 3 times and it will certainly disappear. Ironically, all who have seen this ghostly Jesus have heard him speak in audible voice to them. Unfortunately, the holy ghost that was promised by Jesus to believers who was supposed to hear from God and speak to the believers came to them without a voice!

I will not be led into an unreasonable and illogical and wisdom lacking conclusion, because at the end of the day, I am certain that I will die and there is Judgment Day. I do not want death to reach me in a state of disbelief. I hope therefore you will invite me to christianity by teaching me your religion.

Please, if you cant bring anything beneficial to the topic, do not respond, but at best read the entries. I and the muslims will only ask questions as you go along in bringing us away from Islam to Christianity.

Will you accept after a long time of your effort to allow us to invite you in the same or better manner to Islam if you fail to present Christianity and her God, Trinity or Unitarianism to us?

^^^^^^^Each time I see your response to the lies against our Lord, His Deen, His Messenger [as] I say Alhamdullah that I am a muslim because it is a disaster to be in a different religion than what you are on.

I do pray for you my dear brother and since it is my choice and no one has control over my tongue except Allah Alone, I asked that He accepts my prayers for you and yours, the Ummah of Muhammad [as] as a whole, forgiving us by it, covering us with His Mercy by it, making our affairs easy on us in this life, counting us among the martyrs regardless of when and how old we are when death comes for our souls, returning them to the Owner of the Soul. That Allah let our stay in the grave easier including lightening its trial and on the Day of Judgment to assemble us as from the Assahbi Yemini who are described as Thulathun akhirin of Surah Waqiah. Keep fighting them. You are true lion of your time. A fighter for right. So are all the Muslims on this board.

Now to the mudslingers, we created 2 threads already giving you the chance to educate us about your religion. Not a singe one of you have seized the opportunity to inform us of what is it that we need to know so that we can reject Islam and become like you. Today, i spoke to a friend in Nigeria who has just became muslim, less than 3 weeks ago. From her lips, what she knows is that her heart is more at peace now than it was before she accepted Islam. It is right there in Lagos and she is a core Igbo woman of nobility.

While Plappville is flapping her gums, Frosbel is freely lying and davidylan is in the denial mode, Islam is turning/make the bend into Igboland and it will establish success among them, whether you like it or not, unless you are not under the heavens, on top of the earth of Allah, and breathing and sustaining your existence from what Allah provides.

My last thread is coming up. If Lagosshia is up to it, he can open the thread and may Allah reward him for whatever decision he makes. I want the Thread to be titled; Oh Christians, invite us accept your religion if it is absolutely from God.

^^^^^^^ since Jesus who never married or Paul who was an eunuch never married, and some of you are married to the church being bride of Jesus, though they are men, we in Islam will gladly make your women happy. We make them smile that God has created strong men, men with samson syndrome.

Muslim men are unlike the hairless male, almost women. We will not let them change their last names. They will not have to work. We will not make them go douch; paying half is not our nature. They may not have to go to the kitchen, if they dont want. All they have to do is love muslim men. They will be taken care of. They definitely will be friends, wives, mothers.

Women are always more than men, and your religion have taken the sweet juice off of you, restricting you to one man one woman. Alhamdulillah, we are on the foot steps of Abraham and will take your excess women from you, safing them from the life of lifelong spinster.

Actually, they will not be girl friends to the muslims, but wives in the homes and thats a good thing. I know a woman whose husband refers to her as "my girl friend" keeping their love at almost as if they just got married.

Let muslim men help the christian women to be true women, while you christian men are struggling to handle just one.

Allahluyah equals to Yah Allahu.

i thought mr. davidylan is strong to handle an avalanche. i see that he is crumbling into depression already. i don't want to reduce him to candidate for the couch or 12 steps . . .

so i will let him be. we dont need women from you before you become jumpy with anxiety, ooh man of little faith.

there are more to mankind than jews and christians.

^^^^^^^^^ i am young, if you have beautiful women in the family, less your personality and are not community chests [the cupboard drawers], let me know and we will invade your compound with good intentions and gifts, not seeking to commit fornication or adultery, but true everlasting marriage that will outlast death, continuing on the other side as houri for their husbands instead of roasting with satan in hell. got it?

is not like you will marry them.

@Ismhab; « #26 on: Today at 04:20:51 PM »
[Quote]it is totally haram/forbidden for a good muslim to enter into church, i hope they are aware.[/Quote]Quote the verse from the Quran and or the Hadith tat forbids muslims from entering the church and or protecting it and then show me a verse from the Quran and or  the Hadith that forbids Christians from entering Mosque.

If you can't, then know that you need to not say what is not part of Islam so that evil continues to grow.

someday you may speak with my wife in authentic igbo language, if you still remember a word in igbo language?

^^^^^^^^ igbo is my target land. let me talk to the women in there. ol boy don't be stingy. lol

^^^^^^^ sisi wetu, na real omo you be.

the flim flam has began. Jesus of the Bible can't help his own, it is wetu who will, while he is busy appearing to muslims inviting them to ^^ that drstan is going through.

gamers. na today?

^^^^^^^Introduce her to me and she will done. She will be second igbo woman married to goodness in your village, before they start falling for muslim men.

if she can stand the push, let her to come out to the courtyard. whats your village name, ol boy? or you fit remember?

@Frosbel: Without the physical Jihad [Kital, harb], we will marry your good women, leaving you woman-less, almost so that you can slowly become extinct. Is this what you guys want, to reach your goal quickly; heaven by either the never to happen rapture or the process your priests are practicing, already?

A beautiful woman who is a a jew or christian is good after Muslim women are already taken. Do you have such women, nna? I have Muslim men for them; Alhamdulillah that we have ability to marry 2, or 3 or 4 and if unable to deal justly marry 1, unlike you people with 1 wife but a tons of girlfriends out there.

darn hypocrites.

^ Ol boy. I just looked at your ID because somebody says you are tidytim.
What I saw in your Frosbel window is that you carry weapons?
So you are a fighter, holding your SwORDs like your fore-bearers in faith with two hands, ready to unleash the mayhem.

Take it easy. No be by force o. And you are so gentle, with a deadly force in hands. Thank God you are not carrying a big gun with NT verse inscribed on it.

^^^^^^^^^^^^ lol. Ha ha. Masalam? Thats a load of laff.

@Lepasharon; You freak me out. I know you are an artist. Most of you are so visual that you bend too much that you are almost cracking. But Allah is the One Who prevents you from breaking.

Become a muslim and your Lord will melt away all your worries.

You need The God is capable on His Own to do all things, not the one of his own power can do nothing.

@plappville: « #95 on: Yesterday at 04:51:18 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 12:49:52 AM
@Plappville: « #92 on: Today at 07:33:26 PM »let me laugh loud here, sweetie [this will make her not be mad when i speak my mind, since she is probably a push over]. if what you ahve written is correct, Jesus is either a bad teacher leader spiritual guidance, or the disciple are pure wowo with no scintilla of faith, belief, trust in jesus [they are so different from the followers of prophet Muhammad [as]]. from the above about the doubts of the disciples, who can believe anything that comes from? and no wonder Paul took over seeing how unsure they are, a newcomer can say anything and they will believe it.

A dashed hope since Israel was not redeemed and there was no three nights. Count it. If you get 3 days and 3 nights, a present awaits you.

your condition is just like the onishango of yorubaland. their god was killed too. do you know that?

Was Jesus bold too, since all we read was his walking in the shadows, afraid not to be "killed" again? If the master is hiding, do you really think the followers will be bold?

Did they tell the killers, considering that they saw the master hiding? Coward dies many death.

Did Jesus appear to everyone including the "killers"? Really, the people who killed should be the one who he should have shown his face, not the people who ran away and knew nothing of what happened.

The same Peter that was "satan"?

And Jesus was reported to have said, if you live by the sword you will die by the sword. Consider the death of the people and what were what they lived by to have died like they did; hung, beheaded, etc

remember none of them witness either because they ran in the first case and the 3 days and 3 nights could not be calculated from friday afternoon to sunday morning.

The facts are; there were no 3 nights in the belly of the earth even if we take caves to be the belly of the earth. there was no unchallengeable evidence that the man was hung. to say that he was hung is a proof that God was against him, considering that he prayed to and beg God against it. the fact is that he had people with weak faith with him and his recommending the Another Comforter to be the chairman as the one after him that will set things in concrete shows that the Another Comforter has more right over everyone, including Jesus than Jesus had right over himself or anyone. The absolute fact is that it is human God sent to human as messenger to deliver divine message of God. Muhammad [as] was the last Messenger to mankind.

Read these verses for urself then argue with the word of God. I wrote in accordance with this very chapter of the scripture, if u are not ok with my explainations, read them and have a conclusion if u wish. Except u just want to argue and keep bling eyes to the truth.[/Quote]I said the above and you responded with the bold , encouraging me to read what follows below. Okay. I hope you already tied on your head your thinking gele because I have my thinking fila on my head already. Would you have answered my questions and why opinions by the below? Lets hope so.

[Quote]Luke 24:13-49
King James Version (KJV)
13And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.

14And they talked together of all these things which had happened.[/Quote]These things were the 3 years preaching, suffering from point of arrest and the supposed hanging of this man. The man that was so weak that the merciless and compassion-less jews found Simon to carry the burden of cross while Jesus was relieved in the crowd. I wonder what happened in the mist of this confusion? Is the wrong man killed? But a Messenger of God prayed to God all night seeking His Aid from death. Did God abandon His Elect?



[Quote] 15And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them.[/Quote]Imagine that, that they did not get startled? And for a long time they will not recognize him by his voice. Imagine that!



[Quote] 16But their eyes were holden that they should not know him.[/Quote]What about their ears? They were holden, too? What about his smell since he spent 3 years with them before he became a dead person?



[Quote] 17And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad?

18And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days?

19And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:

20And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him.[/Quote]A stranger joined up with 2 people in personal grief, they didn't pay any attention to him. He spoke and they responded, but they did not know him by his voice, though they have been his companions for 3 years straight and their sorrow was all about his tragic end. These were the facts on the ground. But the most important information is in bold in verse 19! Allah has confirmed in the Quran that the truth shall always be available to believers. Verse 19 says "Jesus of nazareth, which was a PROPHET mighty in deed and word before GOD and all the people. Now this is affirmation against your lies that he was a God and or son of God, a later developed idea of deceit.



[Quote] 21[b]But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israe[/b]l: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.[/Quote]This goes not the meat of his mission; I am sent to the lost [so that they are redeemed] sheep of the house of Israel.



[Quote] 22Yea, and certain women also of our company made us astonished, which were early at the sepulchre;

23And when they found not his body, they came, saying, that they had also seen a vision of angels, which said that he was alive.

24And certain of them which were with us went to the sepulchre, and found it even so as the women had said: but him they saw not. [/Quote]After the women verified, the men suddenly became brave, becoming fierce as a lion. Can we trust this people, the same people who ran at the point of arrest, didn't show their faces at the execution, were not there to help their God off the cross a thing he can't do by himself, pick their lifeless God up and dig even a shallow [popper's grave] grave to bury their God in dignity, having the liver to tell us what happened that he died for 3 days and 3 nights [i want you show me 3 nights except that you will lie]?



[Quote] 25Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:[/Quote]He curses before and after the alleged crucifixion. If you call anyone fool, you are entitled to be punished in hell for that, Jesus said in the Bible. Such a little sin. Imagine a christian who will be be thrown in hell for other sins which are obviously weightier than calling anybody a fool? Any christian that is sure that from the lips of Jesus he will not go to hell? How about you, plappville?



[Quote] 26Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?[/Quote]Suffered. All messengers [as] did suffer. Show me the verse in the Book of Moses, etc that says Jesus will die or Jesus will die and that will be the remission of the sins of all mankind [choose a starting point in human generations if you do not want the remission to start from Adam]. This will enlighten us if you can give us the verse. This will enlighten you if you cant. I say you cant.



[Quote] 27And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.[/Quote]This was after he had lectured them for 3 years, now lecturing them all over again. Yet you said they quickly forgot what he repeated to them that a ghost who has no speech is now the Another Comforter to remind them in a time less than 3 months after what Jesus said already 2 times? What kind of followers were this people and when did they finally get it if they did; from Jesus or from The Another Comforter? If it was from Jesus then the Another comforter will be useless to them. If it was from the Another comforter as a ghost [i dont know how ghost talk to human since all those stories about Jesus appearing to Muslims to convert are always audible voice from the Jesus] then Jesus failed miserable because he gave the same lecture 2 times and they didn't get it. If we blame the students, then either way we cant believe what they said to be 100% true; some lies and some truth is what we can deduce at best. Where is what the ghost as Another Comforter said since all that Jesus said before and after the alleged death were recorded, according to your belief? Shouldn't we expect the same thing since Jesus made it clear the importance of the Another Comforter?



[Quote] 28And they drew nigh unto the village, whither they went: and he made as though he would have gone further.

29But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them.

30And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.

31And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.

32And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?

33And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them,

34Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.

35And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.[/Quote]Now he has been tagged 'The Lord" while he even has a Lord God in Heaven Who never dies? Please show me a Simon among the two because we are painstakingly analyzing the biblical verses. One wonders who were the them with them and why if they have been around him for 3 years that each of them failed to recognize him even at first glance, worse from his voice? Liars. But we see that Jesus behaved like human throughout not like somebody who had ever died, but somebody exhausted from trial. Thank Allah Who answered his prayers and preserved him by telling Malaika Jibril what to do.



[Quote] 36And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

37But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.

38And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

39Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

40And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.[/Quote]People of little faith are just a little better than an outright pagan like Pharaoh. I am not surprised these people were affrighted and thought he was a spirit. Pharaoh jumped too when Moses threw his stick and it became a big snake. I responded on behalf of Lagosshia sometimes ago that the evil who pretends to be Jesus that always appeared to "muslims", if he came to Lagosshia that ghost of Jesus will have to make prostration to Allah by the firm command that will come on him from the mouth of Lagosshia, InshaAllah. Oh plappville a woman of low grade faith, have you seen a person merely asleep and he or she appeared dead? I have. And it is the reason you touch them, waking them up if you see fit. Jesus appeared to have died. But was not the reason they put him in cave instead of dug up grave, as many as they were, it would not take so much time to dig up even a shallow one, if they were truly witnesses. Why should it be women coming to see a 3 day and 3 night [you have to count for me 3 nights] dead body even to perfume him? Are all the men now women by their courage? Abeg spare me.



[Quote] 41And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

42And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

43And he took it, and did eat before them.[/Quote]And they always have his demand at hands, even broiled fish and honeycomb. Do spirits eat but human who are not dead are the only one that can eat between the two? DO spirits get hungry, afraid of being dead after he has died? So why hid from the Jews and the Romans who should be ones to be shamed if Jesus really died? I have heard many stories of near death, even presumed dead in this age of technology and people are affirming that what happened in stone age 2000 years ago could not be a fainting, a temporary coma, an illusion appearing to be so to people who were bent on doing evil, but God planned to save him so much so that when he shouted to God by His Personal Name Ellah [his accent, Allah arabic accent] they heard Elias, similar to how the pagans of Makka over 600 years later heard these are crane whose intercession are accepted even though that was not what was said? Read your Bible and read what the jews heard from the mouth of the fella on the cross.



[Quote] 44[b]And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.[/b]

45Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

46And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:[/Quote]Show me where in the laws of Moses and the prophets and the psalms where it is written that Jesus will die and rise from dead the third day, while Jesus contradicted Moses and the prophets and the psalms ads he said the son of man [not the son of God or God in the flesh] shall spend 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the earth? Show me the where Jesus was in the belly of the earth. Calculate for me the 3 nights part of it, if you are honest.



[Quote] 47And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.[/Quote]The nations of Israel. There were 12 of them agreeing with I am sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Is there any reason to change his mission just at the end, why not make that known 6 months or a year into the mission or before it end? Is there any reason that you thing the 12 tribes are not nations since you had Judea and Israel as divided nations among the 12 to similar North America and the America of the New World Land mass[es]?



[Quote] 48And ye are witnesses of these things.

49And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.[/Quote]Witness to the fact that he did not die since he was not a ghost/spirit but flesh and bones, but only appeared so to the executioners, days before; sometimes friday past.

^^^^ Just because you can see does not mean non existence. After all you dont see the wind, but feel the effect. thats even a thing created and you are lying about your Creator?

@brentruge; « #56 on: January 13, 2012, 11:57 PM »
[Quote]The name has a sentimental value. You almost got the full import. It reminds me of a particular period when life was less crazy.[/Quote]So whats your religion or you don't have any? I will argue from the assumption that you are a christian from the most part.


[Quote]Islam has a pretty unflattering things to say about women. There may be nice verses like the world at the feet of mothers, and had tremendously improved the conditions of women from Pre-islamic Arabia (when women were treated horribly), its stuck in a time warp of 7th Century Arabia;[/Quote]Its the woman that you created that made me disobeyed You, God. Does that ring a bell, from your Bibles? Who is more unfair than the one who refused to take responsibility? Blame the woman Bible Adam. Blame her and absorb yourself of any personal responsibility for your action. After all she did not open your mouth and make you take a bit and munch of the "apple". is this quality of denying the obvious, not wanting to be responsible the 21st century quality, while saying by the messenger [as] that women are in general more deficient than men in somethings? by the way the bold is not a verse, mr. ignorant, but a statement of sunnah showing the importance of mothers, the woman, the gender that must be given 3 times before giving the father for the very first time.


[Quote]- The things which annual prayer were mentioned before me (and those were): a dog, a donkey and a woman. I said, "You have compared us (women) to donkeys and dogs - Sahih Bukhari 1:9:493 (Comparing women to donkeys and dogs)[/Quote]What are conditions that makes any of these able to annul salaat prayer? If a woman is 500 yards away from you, is your salaah annulled? Of course not. She must have to be within your space of sutra; distance less than you making a fist and stretching your arm forward. if you are young and newly married to a beautiful wife, your blood will be boiling every time you see her. then she passes in front of you in her fun dress. How easy it will be to concentrate without wanting to be a nagelmaker? I know why pretty woman must not be praying in front of young eligible bachelors praying behind her. The messenger [as] told a young newly wed that he should not hold hands with his wife when they are fasting in Ramadhan. Just then an old man who has been married to his wife as long as you know what asked the same question. the answer was different; yes you can hold hands because you see your wife now as almost a very dear friend and your blood is not boiling like the two young birds who want to crush each other all the time.


[Quote]- I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you.- Sahih Bukhari 1:6:301 (Women are deficient in Intelligence to which I vehemently disagree!)[/Quote]Women by and large are more emotional than men. And emotion affects the sense of logic and practical applications. And most women will yield to men and probably abandon her religion for the husband. These are facts and they are the reasons for the statements of the messenger [as] since we know that many women around the messenger became Islamic scholars. So being deficient on intelligence and religion are not to say that this is across the board on women and all women are below all men, since from men we have disbelievers while there are many muslim women.


[Quote]- Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. -Sahih Bukhari 1:6:301 (Your testimony is worth half a man's)]/Quote] women are emotional and that is the reason for the 2 women for 1 man in matters of witness. A true story about a christian family to illustrate the emotional condition of women. a friend deposit some money under his baby brother's name. He told him not to touch it because it actually belongs to his wife. The brother withdrew all of the money for business. the big brother called for the money and discover what has happened. when the funds were not returned, he ased his younger sister to go to the police precinct and arrange for the arrest of the brother. the sister was so emotional that the brother is now looking for somebody outside the family to get the young brother arrested.


[Quote]- A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife. - Abu Dawud 11:2142 (No questions asked for your husband beating you to pulp. Aisha, one of Muhammed's wife notes: "I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes! Sahih Bukhari 7:72:715)[/Quote]And neither Aisha [ra] nor he other wives [ra] of the holy prophet [as] was beaten to pulp. we now how Allah says wife can be beating; the way Job [as] beat his wife. We can see a man leaving his wife for dead or black and blue, it is not the rule of Islam, similar to deviants who drink alcohol or commit adultery, etc each is known to be a thing disliked by Islam. How does the Bibles; Jews and Christians respect their women, considering both blame Eve for all the sins and evil of this world?


[Quote]- And those wives whose refractoriness ye fear, exhort them, and avoid them in beds, and beat them; but if they obey you, seek not a way against them; verily Allah is ever Lofty, Grand - Qur'an 4:34 (When your husband strikes you, dont ask why)[/Quote]And the prophet [as] never beat his wives [ra]. And I do not beat my wife, a woman that more than a decade is between the 2 of us. And I do my own cooking and clean after myself. Her money belongs to her no question asked from me. And the bold is your own and it has no place in Islam because husband and wife are called mates, companions and Allah has instill love between the two of them. What does the Bible say about women; lets talk about the voiceless christian woman.


[Quote]- What about the hereafter (heaven of hell?) The Quran says there are more women in hell and for heaven,[/Quote]please show me the verse in the Quran because I am searching for it.


[Quote] there will be virgins and women for the men,[/Quote]Virgin and women [2 women to a man] shows that women will be more in Paradise, too. this disproves what you wrote above.


[Quote] and young boys. What do women get? I am still searching - Qur'an 78:33[/Quote]Do the math. Women get half a man because less men are in paradise than women in paradise.


[Quote]- Then of course the case of the Child Bride, Aisha. I look at my little 9/10 year old sweet nieces and I know there will be no chance on earth I could live with the fact that someone could force himself on them. But it happened[/Quote]did the prophet do the bold while the wife and the husband both negotiated the terms of the marital contract? After you marry your wife do your conjugal duties amount to the man forcing himself on her, considering that he waited 2 years after marriage before they consummated the marriage? Do we call 2 year too soon, lacking patience, etc? I am sure both spouses grew two more years from the day of marriage. [b]Can you tell me with relevant proofs the probably year relative to the beginning of prophet-hood when Aisha was born? I say she was born before the first revelation. You need to research what lagosshia had presented about it before you argue from blindness.


[Quote]I cant call that man a Prophet.[/Quote]And the Jews can'f call Jesus a Prophet. And you call Solomon prophet with 1000 women for him. David a Prophet still after he killed the husband of the woman he snatched.


[Quote] I have heard all the excuses made for the fact, but if the Hadith is correct, I can't buy it. If I buy it because of some excuses, then the Hadith is wrong[/Quote]The hadith is wrong because of the fact that there is a rule about what age a female or male can marry; minimum at the age of puberty. But Aisha's father had all his children including Aisha in Makka before the revelation and Aisha was engaged to some future husband before the revelation began.Aisha was old enough in the early period of Makka period to know which surah revealed.


[Quote]You see why Islam is such an oddball, just because someone is not a Muslim or has left, he becomes an "un-person",[/Quote]You didnt see the many persons was cloned from the un-person; christian, atheist, etc, etc? You practice injustice calling Islam oddball.


[Quote] he or she is no more human. Apostates sometimes are killed, which is a shame really. I have never heard someone from any other religion who has left treated as bad as Islam does.[/Quote]You are probably naive, ignorant or outright deceitful to say you have never heard of other religion people killing their apostates. If you are a jew and the OT said it and you do not do it, you are a hypocrite. If you are a christian if the NT says it and you refuse to do it, you are a hypocrite. Read your Bible and see that apostates are to be killed while Islam says he can come back again, and again, and again, and even after it becomes a revolving door syndrome, it is Allah Who all decisions rest as long as this person does not pick up arms or devise evil against Islam. And all is fair in way said by davidylan. By the way the Bible call us Infidels.


[Quote]and If I am lying, try this test (at your own risk) walk up to your folks and Imam and tell them you have left Islam (I must say though that most Nigerian south western Muslims are quite liberal unlike their northern counterpart).[/Quote]You must be a young adult. Many sw nigerian persons left Islam. One of them is in San Francisco Bay Area. His mother didn't do anything. Neither his father. He did it 10 years before he left for the states. I also know many who became christian through marriage, proving that the messenger [as] is relevant even today because there is no reason for a person worshiping 1 God to replace it with 3 God[s] of the christians, munching on pigs, etc.


[Quote]Its like a cult really, once in you cant leave! If you leave, you are hunted and could lose your life. If death is not a threat to apostates, millions will ditch Islam. Its like living with a gun constantly to your head. Always.[/Quote]A real estate man in Nigeria left islam, his parent havent done anything to him till now. He is the only one in his large family that is christian. I opened a thread 3 weeks ago to get the christians to try to preach their religion to us. They all ran and didnt seize the opportunity to win souls for Jesus in the fashion of paul. You should try me, unless you are also a fake, ignorant enough to avoid serious dialogue.


[Quote]I wonder how you reached your conclusion about the Muslim specie (as you put it) is the best?[/QUote]This is the best thing that came out of your piece. Muslim will be the first to sincerely do good for the pleasure of God and will be the last to be induced to doing evil because of his God consciousness.


[Quote] Even if he is a murderer?[/Quote]If all of them have the same demeanor, if will the muslim who will not pee on the dead person, for many reasons; not wanting to defile the dead body and whipping out his instrument for the others to see. Must must cover his aura at all time. And will muslim will not overkill, the others will.


[Quote] A thief?[/Quote]Since there is punishment against it, he will not be as shameless as the others.


[Quote] A despoiler?[/Quote]This is normal for others while most muslim will not dare to do it.


[Quote] You are offering an opinion.[/Quote]My opinion is that you have no idea about Islam, and definitely you need to learn about this noble religion and thats the fact. A muslim who is bad will be worse if he is not a muslim. A non muslim who is good will be better if he is a muslim.[/quote]

so they have to use the camel, an animal attached with Islam to let you know that you are too big to squeeze yourself to heaven? is the lake of fire on this earth? please tell us what region it is located.

camel meat; if you eat it you must renew your wudhu.
and you can not pray in it stable because naar is part of the ingredient used to create camel.

obviously you dont understand complex matters, so it will a b c from now on.

God bless a little girl. . who grows up to be beautiful woman. . . without woman what will man do?

i dont know what you are, but every full blooded man wants a woman for wife.
and every full blooded woman wants a man for husband.

since love is not really blind, rules of engagement are set; muslim woman must marry muslim man.

muslim man, though can marry more than 1 woman, and can marry from outside islam. se must not be a hindu. at least the jews and christians say they follow or worship muslim prophets [as] to Moses and Jesus.

at least when she and her husband are discussing, when she says Moses and or Jesus, it is not a name that the husband can't say [as] after. This is just my own derivative. Allah commands, we obey. Its easier for a jew or christian to revert to Islam, familiar with some prophets already than the hindu or shinto with her strange idol. but the christian or jewish woman must not be a community property and thinks the muslim man will make her his wife.

the jews when God created a non jew my father Adam[as], and his wife [also a non jew] my mother Eve. The jews, a group of tribesmen from the 12 tribes of the children of Jacob.

Before Jacob, there was Isaac. Even Jacob was not a Jew or your grandfather is davidylan?

Before Isaac there was Ishmael. And before Ishmael there was Abraham.

And before Abraham, his people.

Before his people, we had Noah, who by his supplication against evil doers they were wiped off the face of the earth. And Jesus prayed to be spared from being killed [the cup], and according to your belief he was killed and accursed soul according to you and paul, an indication by comparative reasoning that Noah was honored while Jesus was not by the Yahweh he prayed to.

And before Noah, we had all kinda people from the bloodline of Adam. Even Biblical God spoke to Cain after he snuffed off his brother. How is the jew the people of God now and no one else is people of God? What makes the jews better in position with God than the bloodline of Ishmael, a man God Himself gave the name Ishmael, his people who God blessed with Islam not petrodollar because Russia, USA, Nigeria, Libya, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Mexico, Venezuela, and now Ghana and many other including Indonesia have petrodollars.

Today, we have jews who are not jewish by religion. We even have Ashkenazim who are jew only by religion. Are you saying that the jews are God's people because of their blood or because of their religion? Or because of both and then think about where you have cornered christianity?

Did God sanction Judaism, instructing them to put written prayer on a paper in cracks of old wall, bopping head to it? Did Moses do this? Was the religion of Moses same as that of the Jews or Christians we have today? Was the religion of Father Abraham judaism of the jews of 2012? Think before you answer because i dont want you to get stuck.

Did Jesus practice judaism like the jews in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem, right this evening? Did Jesus ask you to be a christian? Was Jesus a christian? Tell me one thing that Jesus did in his daily devotion to God his Master that you do today, considering the fact that he washed up, stood up, then prostrated and bow all night long in Gethsemane, while your worship is a mixture of American bandstand of Dick Clark, Hee Haw of John Nabor, Soul train of Don Cornelius and american got talent of Steve Tyler. Jesus said his Lord God is One and Unseen and He is Ellah. You said your God is 3 person[s] with Jesus being one of them. Yet you have the liver to tell me you are not an idolater like the hindu of Golgotha.

Christian women and jewish women are almost as sweet as muslim women who is the best[est]. And God is the Creator of all. We love all, but dislike the act of evil and the greatest evil is idolatry. your christian idolatry is not as chronic as that of the hindu, the reason christian gets double reward when he enters Islam while hindu will get just 1.

@OP; Nna, ol boy, watin happen to you? You just dey create threads left and right?

Is the thread Christianity is essential to the world the same as if Islam is not in this world, in some of deductive reasoning, especially when you wanted people to vote for or against Islam in the first thread?

Abeg take am easy o. Thats how it starts before it escalates. Go get some time out with madam or pikins.

Are they still laughing at your impulsive behavior concerning your Nairaland consumption? Ha ha.

^^ You can keep the hindu and the atheist, etc for yourself, the mikey who takes everything like a vacuum cleaner. Muslim male is restricted to Jews and Christians if she is a virgin, a chased as long as muslim woman is not available, being the first for muslim man.

@Joagbaje: « #2 on: January 03, 2012, 06:16 PM »
[Quote]The devil would have had free day ,destroying lives.[/Quote]Explain how you arrive at this opinion, considering that Jesus never on his own own up to satan? there is no instrument of defense in Christianity against satan except the psalm of David, a jewish revelation, while you ignore the gospels. Islam says Audu bIllahi minal shayhittani rajiim, Bismillahir rRahmanir rRahiim. And there are still many weapons to fight satan, while you have none.


@plappville « #3 on: Today at 06:21:12 PM »
[Quote]The world is sustained today because of Christianity.[/Quote]Tell us how with evidence, starting from the flood of Noah, or from Adam or from Abraham, your choice. Pick your own argument point if you have the liver.


[Quote] Satan has not the freedom to oprerate as he had wished.[/Quote]But he operated on Jesus and then on Peter and he is still alive, today.

^^^ By religion christian male, jewish male, hindu male, atheist male, satanist male, etc are forbidden for Muslim woman.
Otherwise, one must wonder what is the difference between it and zina.

@Plappville; Forgive me about the misspelling of your name, above;


[Quote]First Muhammed is a mere man,[/Quote]So were all prophets and messengers of Yahweh. Jesus a man sent to you, says the Bible. Jesus a man unable to do anything of his own power.


[Quote] he tried to creat a religion[/Quote]He did not create Islam because Islam was here before him and he did not take credit for the success of islam even in Arabia. How did he try to create religion, again?


[Quote] but still failed to play the comforters role because its the impossible.[/Quote]What is the impossibility in it, considering that Muhammad [as] spoke and people heard him. He said his command was from God, exactly what Jesus said the Another comforter will have as his foundation. We shall talk about the other major aspects after having a voice and hearing like what was expected of Another Comforter and his listeners. You may have to show me how he failed and what he failed in before you become he winner.


[Quote]Did Muhammed bring all things to the world remebrance about Jesus?[/Quote]Yes. For one, no one can say Jesus was a bastard because his mother was an unwed woman. The jews are still making fun of him and his mother in Israel and thank God, what He revealed to Muhammad about His ability to create in any way that pleases Him, one of these ways He created Jesus. This alone shuts the jews down and remember tey never disputed what Muhammad said about Jesus as large as they were in Madina. Go research it.


[Quote] Capital letter NO.[/Quote]Please support your statement with evidence.


[Quote]Did Muhammed deny all that Jesus have said about his death and resurrection and his identity?[/Quote]about his death? what about his calling for help from God and resigning to the decision of God? What is the purpose of God allowing Jesus to beg and sends the Holy Spirit to aid Jesus and in spite of all of these allowed Jesus, a believer, a messenger to be killed by a group of disbeliever, rebels and haters of God's purpose, intention and decision? You must show us where God said to Jesus oh Jesus you will die and even your asking Me to save you will not help you. Then know that when you show me that section in the Bible, then realize that Jesus was a rebel because what God told him not to do, he tried to do it; trying to change God's decision. I am waiting. Please.


[Quote] Capital letter YES.[/Quote]How, especially when Jesus himself was begging so that he would not die?


[Quote] Muhammed hates Jesus,[/Quote]How?


[Quote] he tried to distroy Jesus,[/Quote]With what and when? I think you are mistaking Rasulullah [as] for the jews and the romans. And according to you they succeeded. Muhammad came 620 after the fact, while you are still waiting for Jesus to return and meet his 12 disciples who at least 1 or more of them are still here above ground, walking and talking? Show me just where I can find one of them, please.


[Quote] but he failed because we have the comforter that leads us to the truth[/Quote]What truth and where can I read it, since you are one of the 12 disciples? It was promised to the disciples unless somebody lied. Let me know.


[Quote] as Jesus has promised.[/Quote]Show me a verse where Jesus promised anyone outside the 12 disciples.


[Quote] EVERY TRUE CHRISTIAN CAN TELL YOU OF THE COMFORTER IF THEY WISH TO, IT IS REAL.[/Quote]You can tell me what you want, without evidence. It will be rejected, until you present evidence. Are christians followers of Jesus, since he only had 12 disciples? Did Jesus called his followers, christians? What are you talking about? Is this the way to win souls?