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MaxInDHouse:
So what do you have to say about John the baptist and Jesus' first century Jewish disciples who both had wrong timing at heart?
Perhaps you're thinking such wrong expectation never occurred among Jesus' first century Jewish disciples! John 21:23

Good question

Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?
First you don't know if John died or not. Secondly, we would not defend the disciples for spreading falsehoods. And I see no reason to defend your organization. You should be responsible enough to own up your falsehoods

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ know that Jesus used the opportunity to confirm John as a true prophet of God otherwise questioning Jesus' authenticity in the face of those people surely affected John's reputation because that means he doesn't know what he's doing. For your information it was just wrong expectations that caused it.

So if you're now attributing falsehood to a group of worshipers performing excellently throughout the earth simply because of wrong expectation it means you're not wise!
Period!

Apollo and John never were false prophets. A wrong expectation is different from spreading falsehood.
Let me teach you the meaning of a wrong expectation.
Imagine that I invested in a business and I expect a 200% returns but then I get a 100% returns, that is a wrong expectation. But if without any evidence, I went about advertising to others that they would get a 200% returns, that is spreading of falsehood. That is lying.

MaxInDHouse:
So will God's Kingdom still come or it's no more coming?

I told you that you've been injected with truth so you will always come back for more.

God's Kingdom will come so those expecting it may be wrong with the timing but it's not false as long as it's still coming! Habakkuk 2:3

You gave a false date about the coming of the kingdom. You preached the falsehood to your members and the rest of the world.
Everyone is expecting the kingdom but not everyone gave fake timeline.

MaxInDHouse:
Only dullards like you call what is yielding positive results "FALSEHOOD"
Jesus said "by their FRUITS you will know them" Matthew 7:16-18

When an organization is meeting all the requirements of pure worship but you're now hinging on their anticipation of what God promised saying they spread falsehood that's confirmed stupidity because ancient servants of God also had wrong expectations and that doesn't make them false!

Falsehood is claiming something that over time is proven wrong.
Again, I would help you with the dictionary meaning of falsehood.
the state of being untrue.
"the truth or falsehood of the many legends which surround her"
a lie.
plural noun: falsehoods
"a downright falsehood"

MaxInDHouse:
YES! YES!! YES!!!
Apollos prophesied a wrong timing regarding the kingdom of Christ just as his teacher John the baptist also had wrong expectations.

Hit your head on the brick if your brains can't decipher that simple truth!

Your defence that Apollos and John spread falsehood is wrong.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀gbẹ́ni if you don't know what to say go ahead and worship wherever pleases you.
I am telling you that it was wrong expectations and not prophecies. The PROPHECIES about the end of the world is there in the Bible but it's the timing that JWs got wrong due to anxiety for God's Kingdom just as John the baptist and Jesus' first century followers did.

It's either you don't believe in God's promises or you want to attack those anticipating it but if you want to talk about FALSE PROPHECIES let me hear what JWs say that's not found written at all in the Bible not their wrong expectation!

Even if we say you doctrine was not a prophecy, it was a falsehood.
You guys were spreading falsehoods
I agree that you are not the only organization guilty of spreading falsehoods and that can be forgiven but defending falsehood, that's unwise.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀gbẹ́ni if you don't know what to say go ahead and worship wherever pleases you.
I am telling you that it was wrong expectations and not prophecies. The PROPHECIES about the end of the world is there in the Bible but it's the timing that JWs got wrong due to anxiety for God's Kingdom just as John the baptist and Jesus' first century followers did.

It's either you don't believe in God's promises or you want to attack those anticipating it but if you want to talk about FALSE PROPHECIES let me hear what JWs say that's not found written at all in the Bible not their wrong expectation!

Pls sit educate yourself with the definition of prophecy.
prophecy
/ˈprɒfɪsi/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a prediction of what will happen in the future.
"a bleak prophecy of war and ruin"

MaxInDHouse:
Chai the injection still dey disturb this guy o!

I told you that you will always come back to me àbí i no tell you?

Well Jehovah's Witnesses never made any prophecy just like John the baptist and Jesus' first century followers JWs had wrong expectations NOT prophecies!

Prophecy is what nobody has ever had of before not what God promised that the people expecting it had wrong timing so the difference is clear!

So you guys printed lies and falsehood and your explanation is that the 1st century Christians did that too interesting.
Again you don't know the meaning of a prophecy but I would define it for you using the dictionary.

prophecy
/ˈprɒfɪsi/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a prediction of what will happen in the future.
"a bleak prophecy of war and ruin"

MaxInDHouse:
There was a disciple of John the baptist known as Apollos who kept preaching fearlessly about the Christ but he only had teachings his master John the baptist taught him about the Christ {Act 18:24-25} do you expect Apollos to have accurate knowledge of truth or continue preaching what John taught him based on his expectations before been imprisoned?

Apollos kept preaching fearlessly and zealously even though he doesn't have the accurate knowledge of truth until true Christians found him and taught him the brighter light of truth. Act 18:26

QUICK QUESTION!

Does that makes John the baptist a false prophet?
Does John's teachings come from the Devil?
Should Apollos stick to John teachings since the master introduced Jesus?
Will God be pleased with Apollos if he refused to welcome the NEW LIGHT?

Let all atheists claiming believers know that the light keeps getting brighter and brighter! Proverbs 4:18

I am quite impressed that you guys did not retrieve those false prophecies from the internet. It shows a degree of honesty.
I advise you stop arguing. The prophecies are clearly false and can't be defended.

MaxInDHouse:
There was a disciple of John the baptist known as Apollos who kept preaching fearlessly about the Christ but he only had teachings his master John the baptist taught him about the Christ {Act 18:24-25} do you expect Apollos to have accurate knowledge of truth or continue preaching what John taught him based on his expectations before been imprisoned?

Apollos kept preaching fearlessly and zealously even though he doesn't have the accurate knowledge of truth until true Christians found him and taught him the brighter light of truth. Act 18:26

QUICK QUESTION!

Does that makes John the baptist a false prophet?
Does John's teachings come from the Devil?
Should Apollos stick to John teachings since the master introduced Jesus?
Will God be pleased with Apollos if he refused to welcome the NEW LIGHT?

Let all atheists claiming believers know that the light keeps getting brighter and brighter! Proverbs 4:18

Oga, while we can't argue away the JW false prophecies, they are not the only organization that have false prophecies. Just like most Christian organizations, you guys have your good and bad so stop trying to defend falsehood. Just move on and preach your doctrine.

paulGrundy:
God’s Kingdom Of A thousand Years Has Approached 1973 p.14 

For one thing, the end of six thousand years of human existence on earth and the beginning of mankind’s seventh millennium of existence may come many years sooner than the year 2000 C.E. It is well that this is so. Today, with the world of mankind in such a deplorable condition and being threatened with destruction from so many angles, there are many students and investigators of these threats to human existence who express substantial doubts that mankind will be able to survive till the year 2000 C.E.

Watchtower 1973 11/1 646 The Best Time to Be Alive 

And now, particularly, many serious students of government and of world conditions — statesmen, scientists and others are saying that mankind will not even be able to survive to the year 2000 C.E. They base their outlook, not on the Bible, but on the hard facts of today and upon the now irreversible trend of things that involve all of us. The Bible tells of these hard times that we are experiencing as a sign of the nearness of the end of this system.—2 Tim. 3:1-5.

Watchtower 1976 5/15 300 Insight on the News 

"A Query into the Quarter Century" is the title of a message issued recently by twenty experts from various fields who met under the sponsorship of the Charles F Kettering Foundation and the Wright-Ingraham Institute. They concluded: "Famine, social unrest and possible political chaos may not be far away By the year 2000 the problems in food production, storage, transportation and distribution will make today’s problems appear as child’s play."


Watchtower 1980 10/15 31 Questions from Readers 
It is the generation of people who saw the catastrophic events that broke forth in connection with World War 1 from 1914 onwards And if the wicked system of the world survived until the turn of the century, which is highly improbable in view of world trends and the fulfillment of Bible prophecy, there would still be survivors of the World War I generation.


Watchtower 1992 10/1 16-17 The Messiah’s Presence and His Rule 
When Jesus’ disciples asked him: "What will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?" Jesus responded by giving them a detailed description of that future time. (Matthew, chapter 24; Mark, chapter 13; Luke, chapter 21; see also 2 Timothy 3:1-5; Revelation, chapter 6.) This sign amounts to a detailed portrait of a troubled era Every passing day confirms that the 20th century perfectly fits Jesus’ description.

Watchtower 1994 4/15 10 Helpful Teaching for Our Critical Times 
The events of this 20th century overwhelmingly prove that we are now living in the conclusion of this present wicked system.

Awake 1970 4/22 30 Watching the World 
According to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, room must be found for about 100,000,000 more Americans by the year 2000. The paper says: "In light of already severe environmental problems, such figures have prompted some scientists to circle a date on the calendar for an Armageddon sometime in the middle or latter years of this decade."

Awake 1972 6/22 29 Watching the World 
Dr. Martin, in his book Three Popes and the Cardinal, concludes: "Well before the year 2000, there will no longer be a religious institution recognizable as the Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church of today."

Awake 1972 7/22 10 Will the "Green Revolution" Be Enough? 
the New York Times says: "Unless the rate is reduced significantly India will have a billion people by the year 2000, far outstripping any increase in food output."

Many churches have had false prophecies the JW are not the only ones in this category.

OkCornel:
Lol, so the woman has fled to the desert and the great tribulation has happened?

Well done.

Thanks

OkCornel:
So Revelation 12 has happened?

Yes

[quote author=Kobojunkie post=118167653]Not even what is written in Revelations 12 constitutes any such. The idea is born of the imaginations of men. Instead, as Jesus Christ informed you, all that has and continues to take place in Heaven is of the Will of God - Matthew 6 vs 11 - 15 .

"... thy Will be done on earth as it is done in Heaven..."[/quote
It was so clearly stated in revelations 12 the only problem is 5hat you don't believe and I can't help you with that.

Daviddson:
Ask yourself, does Davido TRULY believe in God? Someone who doesn't hide his cult membership?
The tabloid only wanted traffic - that was why they used that caption.

You are just writing nonsense. Even holy men of God lose their kids. Was Job also a cultist?

Kobojunkie:
None of what you claim is found in any of the passages which you quoted. All you have here is commit a quoting out-of-context Fallacy revealing you have pretty much no real idea of what is in fact contained in scripture, and certain no real knowledge of the Truth of God to begin with.

If you had taken time to carefully read the message contained in the context of Isaiah 14 where instead the poem you quote from was meant as a message from God to the King of Babylon, you would have realized your error. Same goes for that written in Ezekiel 28, which God meant as a dirge to the prince of Tyre.

There was no coup in Heaven, now according to scripture. That myth was invented in the minds of men and used by the scam artists you call pastors and mogs(GBs, and GOs as well) to deceive you all using the name of God.

According to the bible,there was. Please read Revelations 12

Jen96:
I never knew I met a demonic psychopath.

I met this man when I went to eat . He insisted to pay for my food. I had already paid. So he was like he must buy something for me. I didn't know he wanted me to v something from him to gain access to me. I kept refusing. But we sat outside for long. I later accepted. He ltr told me he had a marine altar( a custodian) that's when I knew I was finished. I pretended

D next day was a Sunday. He was shoutin on me that I should stop going to church. That his aim in my life is to show me another way to God. I was in church he kept calling n shouting on me to leave church. Church I v bin going to for almost two years. I was angry at d audacity n stopped picking.

I didn't know this man wanted to initiate me.

I stopped picking his calls. On Monday true life he traced me to where I was through what I ate now I know. He asked me why I wasn't picking. Told him I was busy . He told me to sit down. N started telling me on how he is trying to show me God n he wants to marry me.. I felt it's cos he paid for my food, I quickly went to withdraw the money. I was even crying cos I remembered he said he had a marine altar. This man didn't send my cry. He was ordering food for me obviously I refused. I gave him back his money n told him I am not interested in marriage, that I have a lot going on n gave him his money. N told him that the blood of Jesus n d mercy of God will advocate for me . He told me if I don't marry him I will regret it. I rejected it.

He started sending snakes to move round my body, I will run to my spiritual Father, he will pray, the snake will leave n come back for two weeks straight. Till my spiritual Father realized this might not be foundation n gave me the Holy communion to take, which showed my oneness with Jesus Christ as my husband. Since then everything stopped.

When he still had acess to my life, once it's 11pm n 3 am I start feeling cold n having cold feets. I felt everything physically and not in dreams. Not everyone you see on the road is a human.He almost made me mad. I v never seen such evil b4. Atimes I will feel someone trying to pull my heart out. When I close my eyes between the hours of 11pm to 4am then, I feel I am inside water trying to swim. All these were too much for someone I met just once.

I remember he was forcing me to take him to my house. I normally lie to guys I stay with my sis, but immediately I ate that food this man knew everything about me n told me why am I lying that we must go to my house. I didn't realize he wanted to create an altar in my house but luckily I was in church that day. He also wanted to have sex with me because in d spirit realm, sex is marriage forget formality. Girls be careful o. If I had sex with him I would v bin one with him, and all these am saying, won't v bin possible. I am not sure i would v realized I needed deliverance.


One thing this thing made me realize is the reality of the spirit realm n the power of the blood of Jesus. Pls be careful out there.

Those with spiritual depth, pls help me explain why he was so persistent. I met him just once.

All these fables and stories don't draw any to God.
No one initiated from eating food or collecting money. You can only be initiated when you don't have the spirit in you.
James 4.7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

OsunOriginal:
The followers in those countries are not laid-back like us and looking for easy ways of all situations in life. Recently everybody in France trooped out on the streets of Paris to protest the inflation which has been reducing the purchasing power of the people there. Here, we only make noise on social media and do anything to survive - fraud, hoarding dollars, cheating others, etc.

After the protest in France what happened? After the Arab spring, what happened? After the Lekki toll gate protest, what happened? After the wall street protest in the US, what happened? Nigerians have protested bad leadership just like any other people. But then, name one country that got better because of protests.

INDOMIE9090:
2023 will prove my point
Let wait and see

Without facts and evidence, you have no point.

OsunOriginal:
And when the leaders are failing, what's your responsibility as a follower?

The Followers can only do their best. Your leaders hold all the aces. The Nigerian public is not worse than the Americans. The same Nigerians go to the US and are among the richest and most educated communities.
Nigerians are doing great things in UK and Canada. So the problem isn't with Nigerians it is with your evil government. You can't continue to make excuses and carry the bag for these evil men.

OsunOriginal:

It is convenient to put all the blames on leaders while we continue, individually, to act and behave in ways that are destructive. Leaders are from among us or are they from elsewhere?

No, we understand individual responsibility. But when you talk about the direction of the nation, it is 100% the responsibility of our leaders. The citizens only follow

INDOMIE9090:
[/b]majority of people listening to him don’t have PVC[b]

And we should believe you because you work with the PVC office? When you begin to back your words with facts then we would listen to you. For now, we would not mind you.

OsunOriginal:
We only have bad rulers? What about those cheating and stealing from one another daily everywhere? What about the even the technocrat and professors appointed into government and all they do is stealing? Yes, I know part of the work of government is to reign in everybody by enforcing the rule of law but the scale of indiscipline and roguery in the country is daunting. I used to think the illiterates and touts at motor parks are the most indiscipline among us. Today, it is obvious that even the most educated among us (the professors, technocrats, etc) are not different seeing how they behave when appointed into administrative offices.

In every country, there are evil and corrupt people but leadership makes all the difference. In the 90s the US had a serious mafia problem. There are all kinds of criminal gangs in the US. There, we see secondary school teachers impregnated by their students. Evil and corruption are everywhere. All that matters is sane and strong leadership.

OsunOriginal:
It baffles me when Nigerians complain that their country is not working. Each time I hear this, I look the complainer in the eyes and ask (inside myself though), what have you, in your capacity, done to make things work in Nigeria?

- governors, ministers, civil servants, etc are looting and stashing cash running into billions in their houses
- the appointed technocrats (most of whom are well-read - prof, PhD holders, etc) can't do without using their offices for self-enrichment
- oil-marketers are out there looking for every opportunity to hoard fuel and sell it at higher prices
- BDC hoard dollars to make it seem scarce and sell it at higher rate - sabotaging the economy
- Nigerian bankers are even worse than the BCDs and the reason giving dollars to banks instead of BCDs hasn't helped
- the so-called youths are mostly professional criminals (yahoo-yahoo, kidnappers, etc) looking for riches without commensurate efforts/work
- electricity distribution companies prefer to use estimated bills so they can extort consumers despite their obvious incompetence
- the churches are cashing in on their gullible followers and giving them false hope in exchange - creating billionaires without commensurate addition of value to our GDP
- nobody wants to farm or do hard work again - both literates and illiterates. And they all want to be rich in billions
- Nigerians now running to other countries (they call it japa) as if they don't work for money in those places

We need a madman to rule this country - I don't care how he comes - military or civilian.

You are wrong, we have only had mad rulers. Its time for some sanity in Nigeria.

great

Nigerialabalaba:
Wizkid wey no get pvc or dey vote sef. Na on top woman e go dey wen people dey vote.yeye

He has something more than a PVC. He has a voice that people listen to.

Auspiman:
When the Western World need a leader, they choose the best among them no matter the age or tribe. Just the best and nothing more. No corruption or criminal baggage - just pure, clean, educated, civil and sound.

When it's time for Nigeria to choose their leader, same people supports and funds the worst among us; they use their media and our own media to make such bad choice popular - all targeted to keep Nigeria on a rocking chair, busy going nowhere. Nigeria has to be humble and a dependent member of the loyal stooges of countries - so, they need no good leader.

Locally, we wilfully make victims of ourselves by voting for Money personified, and later go back to Church to disturb God to get us a leader, - a leader that we willingly failed to produce by ourselves. We concentrate on tribe, ethnicity, partisanship, religion and instant monetary benefits while good leadership keeps eluding us.

Most of this current British PM's mates in Nigerian politics are hardly allowed to come close to power. We, the Youths are only reduced to jostling to be media Aids to the old de facto politicians, insulting their political enemies on social media on their behalf to collect peanuts. Our beautiful and energetic women reduced to glory singers group.

Those that have sane society did not pray for it, they worked for it. We keep asking God for good leaders in our prayers, when it is time to vote, we choose the bad ones with sugar cane in their hands. After election, the sugar disappears and the cane appears to flog everyone mercilessly.

We can't keep pretending that all is well while falling deep into the well. Dollar to Naira is trying to hit the sky already, that is why you no longer afford things you used to afford before. Trust that the market will embarrass that money you have in your hand. That's where we've kept ourselves. I blame no one, except us. Not God, not Satan is responsible for our suffering; we are.

I pray we all find solace in a good leader come 2023 as suffering and poverty knows no ethnicity, political party, religion or tribe.

HON. SOLOMON CHIMEZIE AMAEZECHI.
(Orutere Onyeukwu, Orutere Onyenta)

If my memory serves me well, it was Nigerian who voted for Buhari not Americans.
Learn to take responsibility. Stop the blame game.

damosky12:
Rest! No well brought up, reasonable Yoruba makes demeaning jokes of elders. Quit your sad lamentations.

You no nothing about the Yorubas. Not all Yorubas share in your sad experience. Learn to laugh some more. Even the Ooni has a sense of humor. I can only imagine the kind of childhood you had.

Kagd10:
Will you keep quiet? Killer herdsmen is the worst. The temerity you've got when you support Muslim as well. And worse, a killer herdsmen.

Did you read before posting?

garfield1:
In 2019,most of those that supported atiku were from the south especially south east.same thing is happening currently.even though majority in the Southeast are with obi and a good number from ss but still a lot of southerners esp from ss/se still support atiku.it is the turn of the south,the mantra is south or nothing.for me it is either tinubu or obi.no room for any northerner.I hardly see northerners supporting atiku,it is alwats southerners.this is disgraceful and highly shameful.




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I think you are an evil person. You defend Muslim/Muslim ticket yet you are against northerners.
You are a tribal bigot and a hypocrite for supporting Muslim/Muslim agenda.

damosky12:
All this to defend a tomfoolery?

I don't know where you are or how you were raised. But in Yoruba land, people are quite cultured.

They don't make jokes or laugh at jokes that make mockery of elders or royalty. No mentally okay person in Ife would laugh at a joke that berates the Ooni. You can go over there and find out. Selah!

You must have had a horrible childhood. In your space elders and royalty are removed from comedy that is why you are a timid and sad human being.
Just so you know, I have lived in Yoruba land. You can only speak for yourself, you do not represent the Yoruba people.
Is Adeola Fayehun not a Yoruba lady? She always makes fun of elders on her channel. I am sure you hate her too.
I have been to events where Obasanjo was present and the comedian poked some fun at him. He responded by making his own jokes.
So Mr sad man, what part of Yoruba land are you from?

Rostikol:
Source of information please?

Any links?

Or you just pulled these figures out of your asss?

Please don't be a lazy ass. These are not hidden figures. It's so irritating when a young person is asking for a link he could very easily google.
In case of next time, this is how to find info.
Google Nigeria's revenue for 2021. You would probably get figures in Naira then on another window of your computer, convert the figure to dollars. You are welcome.
And because I know you would still be lazy to do the research, please find the energy to click this link. https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/10/fg-generates-73-of-its-targeted-revenue-for-2021/