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cornelboy:
Once the animal had been bled and the blood drained properly, the blood left in the veins or arteries doesn't matter.

You just proved me right, you are not against taking blood into your body, you are only against eating blood directly as food. So let's not create new laws. If you are ok with eating blood in veins and arteries you really have nothing against transfusion. Also, hope you are against eating liver because the liver comprises almost 30% blood

cornelboy:
Once the animal had been bled and the blood drained properly, the blood left in the veins or arteries doesn't matter.

Research shows that Approximately 60% of blood is lost at sticking (bleeding), 20-25% remains in the viscera (in spleen, liver, kidneys, etc.), while a maximum of 10% may remain in carcass muscles (the 'meat')

cornelboy:
Bro i understand you clearly.
But your still saying it's impossible to eat meat without blood. Or what did you mean by this ; [color=#000000]I am only telling you that if blood transfusion is wrong, so is eating meat because both would get blood into your body. [/color]

Because God clearly go against eating meat with blood and commanded the Israelites to drain blood out of animals properly, which means it's possible to eat meat without blood.

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So if blood transfusion is wrong, eating meat is not wrong when you drain out the blood properly.

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Touching blood couldn't be wrong cos it's not going into your body.
God spoke about murder, stealing, and lust.
Obviously God spoke bout abstaining from blood too, so avoiding blood transfusion is also abstaining from blood.

God spoke about abstaining from blood so is touching blood a sin?
Again it's impossible to drain all the blood out of meat. the red color of your meat comes from The protein myoglobin in the blood. There is no known way of removing blood completely from meat. The cells of the muscles at every moment are filled with blood. You cant drain that away.
If blood transfusion is wrong why then eat meat since both ways, you get blood into your body.

cornelboy:
You added new guideline by saying it's impossible to eat meat without blood
That's your opinion bro.
If you ate blood or drank it, where will it go no be body?
Whether you drink or eat or inject blood na same thing.

God never talked bout masturbation or abortion or internet fraud, does it mean they aren't sin?

You clearly are not getting my point. I have nothing against eating meat. I am only telling you that if blood transfusion is wrong, so is eating meat because both would get blood into your body. For me, I am ok with eating meat and blood transfusion. Do you understand me now?
Also, you should abstain from touching blood and the list goes on and on.
God never talked bout masturbation or abortion or internet fraud, does it mean they aren't sin?
God spoke about murder, stealing, and lust.

cornelboy:
You added new guideline by saying it's impossible to eat meat without blood
That's your opinion bro.
If you ate blood or drank it, where will it go no be body?
Whether you drink or eat or inject blood na same thing.

God never talked bout masturbation or abortion or internet fraud, does it mean they aren't sin?

No, it's not a new guideline but a fact. You cant eat meat without taking in blood. You don't believe that? It's not my opinion its a fact you cant eat meat without taking in blood. The arteries, veins, and capillaries still have blood in them

Dtruthspeaker:
That was not me! That's your own soul doing its job!

You are a difficult person to understand.

cornelboy:
That makes God a senseless person for giving out the law if it's impossible to eat meat without blood.
Your personal is respected but doesn't change God's law and view bout blood

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My point is simple, God was never talking about blood transfusion or getting blood into your body. He was clearly talking about having a meal out of the blood. So we all can stick to that rather than adding new laws and guidelines. If God was against blood getting into the body in any form, then he would have commanded us not to eat meat. Its hypocrisy to support the eating of meat and be against blood transfusion.

Forget my opinion, let's talk about god's opinion.
Is God against touching blood? Is he against seeing blood? When he said to abstain from blood was he specific or are we now to pick or decide what he meant?

Allsouls:
Nonsense post like DSS/Nigeria 15 count charges, I call it 15 count nonsense.

Another funny one

cornelboy:
Blood is blood whether you ate it, transfused it or drank it. No be the same body e de go?
Leviticus 17:10,14 didn't just say abstain from blood.

What about touching it or seeing it or talking about it? Are these also against your law? God's law was about eating blood. I don't think we have the power to add to it no matter the church we represent.
Just in case you did not know, you can't eat meat without eating blood. It is just imposible.

Blood transfusion was not practiced in Bible times. If God isn't pleased with it, he would reveal it to us. The bible said, "Abstain from blood." It could mean. Abstain from shedding blood. Or abstain from eating blood. Or Abstain from touching blood. Or Abstain from seeing Blood. So when a religion decides to interpret it as abstaining from blood transfusion, they are clearly on their own. It's their opinion and they are entitled to it. It's not God's commandment.

Dtruthspeaker:
But I did say so.

You were the one Judging me and my church

Dtruthspeaker:
As I said, God will Judge these things. But surely presence of The Holy Spirit means Absence of Sin, which is all I said.



I am not the one on trial here and neither are you the judge I would be reporting to, so you would not know!

So leave judgment for God

Dtruthspeaker:
Finally you averted your mind to other facts you were supposed to have remembered and this is where I answer, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT THE FORGIVEN ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO SIN!

AND IF THEY DO NOT SIN, WILL THE HOLY SPIRIT NOT DWELL WITH THEM?

That is why we ask forgiveness all the time. You seem to be boasting, are you sinless?

Muna4real:
You didn't give any solutions.

I don't have solutions, I only stated the obvious.

gidgiddy:
Trapped within Nigeria? How? Lets just assume that Biafra is only the South East? How would they be trapped within Nigeria? A lot of people look at the map of Nigeria and think that the South East is encircled, it isnt. Some people do not know that the tip of Abia State had water way running straight into the ocean. Oguta in Imo, even Onitsha, has acess to the sea

Swaziland and Lesotho are two independent countries inside South Africa. They have their own armies, currencies, anthems etc

If Lesotho and Swaziland can survive despite being inside South Africa, anyone can survive being inside another country

First Biafra basically comprises only the southeast. You should have noticed that the sit at home isn't working in the south-south. Asaba is only separated from Onitsha by a one-kilometer river yet they don't seem to care about the Biafran sit at home order. clearly, they are not part of Biafra. Onitsha and Abia state have rivers connected to the sea same with Oguta. It's a great thing for them but still, they are landlocked by every definition.
Now I never said a landlocked nation cannot survive I only said that Biafra is disadvantaged in its struggle because it is surrounded by the very nation it seeks to break out from.

Let me first state that I have no issue with any group seeking self-rule and independence. My heart goes out to the Tibetians and Uyghur people of China. But then, let's look at the case of Biafra.
50 years after the failed war, the Igbos still clamor for secession. I am not writing to judge their merits as I believe the Igbos are among the most marginalized people in Nigeria, but I want to look at their strategy and their chances.
1st Let's look at their strategy. It's easy to say that the leading secession group IPOB has no effective strategy. Yes they make noise through their radio and social media, yes they partake in small pockets of violence within the region, and yes they have millions of supporters yet they have never been a major headache for the rest of the country.
No one goes to bed thinking about Ipob except maybe in the southeast. Their influence is not felt outside their region hence no one really cares.
Also, They have failed to build any ally across the country or abroad. They are very much on their own. Their strategy of insults is doing no good to their struggle.
Now let's look at geography. The Igbos are actually trapped within Nigeria. They would clearly need the support of the Niger Delta to create Biafra. Biafra would be impossible without the south south.
Finally, they would need a stronger force than the ESN boys in the bush. That is basically impossible as they would need to arm a force. that would mean moving smuggling heavy equipment through the Nigerian border.
Summary, Biafra is not going to happen because of wrong strategy and poor geography.

Ezehillary:
So after all the noise nnamdi kanu will be 1 billion richer insha allah

Would you want to bet that he would never get that money?

blackpanda:
U NO GET WORK DEAR

try get a life

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In the US alone, there are over 300 000 alcohol related deaths. These people did not died just because they got drunk. The continuous usage of alcohol over time does no good to the body.
The liver reacts to alcohol the same way it reacts to poison.
We knowingly punish and overwork our liver and kidneys. Then we talk of brain cell damage. If you respect your body as a gift from God, you would abstain from drinking. Drinking any amount of alcohol causes damage to the brain

cornelboy:
I won't respond to your post bro it's useless. Sorry for using that word.
My advice for you is not to think of eating or drinking or injecting poison. Cos e go shock you.

wise words

cornelboy:
The bible is against binge drinking excess intake or any form of abuse of alcohol. If you can't control yourself then you abstain from it all together.
Drinking it wisely will do you no harm.

What does it really mean to drink wisely? Can you see your liver? Can you tell how much alcohol intake would damage your liver? It's not about getting drunk, it's about living a healthy lifestyle.
A lot of people think that the biggest problem with alcohol is drunkenness. It's not.
It increases cancer risk, blood pressure, diabetes risk. So even if you never get drunk, you might be risking your health for nothing.
Is it a sin to knowingly take in substance's that could reduce your lifespan?
In the days of the Bible, they knew very little about the health implications of consuming alcohol but today, we know.
James 4.17

cornelboy:
Lesson 43 Enjoy Life Forever

pls if your comments would be against this post, ensure to reference verses from the Bible to back it up

How Should Christians View Alcohol?
Around the world, people have different opinions about alcohol. Some enjoy sharing an occasional drink with friends. Others choose not to drink at all. Still others drink to the point of getting drunk. What is the Bible’s view of alcohol?
1. Is it wrong to drink alcoholic beverages? The Bible does not condemn drinking alcohol. On the contrary, when listing many gifts that God has given us, the Bible includes “wine that makes man’s heart rejoice.” (Psalm 104:14, 15) Some faithful men and women mentioned in the Bible drank alcoholic beverages.​—1 Timothy 5:23.
23 Do not drink water any longer, but take a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent cases of sickness.

Is alcohol good for the body? Alcohol damages the liver and increases the possibility of cancers and a whole lot of deseases. Is there any health benefit of alcohol? none except when used as a drug. Is it a sin to abuse your body or to endanger your body? If yes, then taking alcohol is wrong as it adds no nutrients to the body. It only works as a drug.

Was Adams sin different from the way we commit sins each day? Adam did not know good from evil so how could he sin?

Kobojunkie:
Again, all those in Jesus Christ, according to Jesus Christ are all those who believe in Him and those are the ones who belong in the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 1 - 21

We both agree, those that believe in him would go to the kingdom of God. That is not the argument. Those that don't believe in him would definitely not go to the kingdom of God.

Luke 13:28

In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but yourselves being thrown out.

The wicked would be made to suffer while the sheep are in the kingdom. But first, both would be resurrected.
Read again.
Revelations 20.13
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Kobojunkie:
Again, all those in Jesus Christ, according to Jesus Christ are all those who believe in Him and those are the ones who belong in the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 1 - 21

He never said all those in Christ in 1 corinthians 15
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ, all will be made alive.
note also, He promised his Sheep Eternal life and the wicked, Eternal damnation or Hell.
John 5:28-29

28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.

Kobojunkie:
In the Gospel of John 10 vs 25 - 30, the very same Jesus Christ also told you that it is His sheep who hear His voice implying that those who hear His voice from their graves are those who are His sheep aka those who belong to the Kingdom of God.

John 10:25-30

25 Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, 26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[a]; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”

In John John 5:28-29 not only his sheep but also the sinful and unjust would come forth. those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. remember, his sheep are the righteous ones who listen to his voice and follow him, he shall give them eternal life. no one will snatch them out of his hand.

John 5:28-29

28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.

Kobojunkie:
Again, In Christ - all men in Christ refers to those who are in the Kingdom of God.

Sir, you are twisting the word of God. Listen, it says
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ, all will be made alive. It did not say all men in Christ. These are different phases with different meanings. do get it twisted

Kobojunkie:
Is the reference below not from your Bible?

read also, John 5:28-29
28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.

Kobojunkie:
Is the reference below not from your Bible?

I think you are not understanding the English. It says in Christ all men are made alive not all men in Christ, are made alive. This one is plain English nah

Kobojunkie:
Are all men in Christ?

All men in Adam implies all those descended from Adam, however all men in Christ does not refer to all men in Adam but instead to those who are in Jesus Christ and according to Jesus Christ they are those who are in the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom not of this world.

My bible said all men not all men in Christ. It says all men.

Kobojunkie:
God’s did curse the earth with intention of making life hard for man but He eventually took away that particular curse but not others, so man remains cursed.

Yae until Christ took away the curse of death or is there another curse you are talking about?

Kobojunkie:
It isn't the same thing as all, and God did lift the curse He placed on the earth.

What is a curse? You cant curse the earth on my behalf and tell me I am not the one you cursed. Man was going to suffer simple.