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Kobojunkie:
William Tynsdale is recorded to have done more to put scripture into the hands of common man than Martin Luther who came after him. Martin Luther, on careful examination, is instead revealed as a man who wanted some of the power and glory in the hands of the Catholic church for himself. And this can be seen from the fact that Martin Luther himself went on to condemn and even see punished others who attempted to free minds from the catholic church just as he did.

Most of the doctrines you practice today in your churches are still rooted in catholic doctrines some going back about 1700 years.

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Nothing suggesting for you a new role model as it is against Jesus Christ to have those to begin with - Matthew 23 vs 1 - 4

The very bible you use today is traced to the Catholic Church. It was put together 400 years after Christ.
Think of it, every scripture you have ever read came from the Catholic Church. They decided to create a 27 book new testament out of the so many records of the Apostles..
You can't tell what was added or removed.
So it's either you trust the Catholic church completely or you find an alternative to your bible.

joyandfaith:
Value of bitcoin is zero. Cryptotrading is gambling. Some will loose. Some will gain. The real beneficiaries are internet fraudsters, politicians, criminal gangs because crypto is perfect cover for money laundering.
In the future cryto would be regulated by most authorities.

What about the value of naira. It's safer to own cryto than naira. Let's not forget that the dollar also fell 7% due to inflation

JoyReportsOnlin:
Goalkeeper of the Nigerian nationwide soccer workforce, Maduka Okoye, has opened up on his relationship standing following pursuits from quite a few female followers.

The Tremendous Eagles goalie, who has been dubbed essentially the most good-looking Nigerian footballer, revealed that he’s single and able to mingle.

Talking throughout a digital interview with Nigeria Information, Okoye acknowledged that he likes his girls with melanin, curly and poisonous.

When requested if girls gushing over him are allowed to slip into his DM, the German-born Nigerian footballer mentioned all the women can hit him up on social media.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CY7nS1Ip_TV/?utm_medium=copy_link

Watch the interview HERE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eicuwtuu8AU?

He is using his life to play table tenis. he wants to die broke, and drunk

cornelboy:
What's your religion, are you a Muslim or a Catholic? And what's the complete teaching?

Unless you get to know me personally, I am not one to discuss my personal life on a forum. you don't need to know my religion to debate with me.

cornelboy:
Who appointed you as the moderator? Lol.
You can use the Bible to prove Trinity without using ideas outside it? We will see in my next post about Trinity.

All I do is post, I don't moderate.

cornelboy:
Do you know Martin Luther? I respect him a lot for what he did to make the bible available for everyone.
Catholicism can't be that same religion the early church practice

That's the point. Let's assume you are right. Yet the bible as we know it was collected and abridged by them. The Catholics decided what got into the bible. they decided to make the new testament 27 books even though many more books were written by the apostles. So if you think they are really of the devil how come you are comfortable believing their bible.
That's the point I am making. We criticize the Catholics but we somehow believe they did right with the bible. Somehow, you believe the Catholics were right in omitting so many books from the bible

cornelboy:
You see there's difference in composing the Bible and compiling it. The Catholic didn't write the bible. There was a time they hid the bible from the masses and they were able to spread their lies.

If you don't believe in Trinity, you can't believe Mary as the mother of God.
They have done more harm than good to Christianity.
The first apostles and early church didn't believe in hell fire as a place of suffering after death. Paul, Peter and others didn't preach and warn people about hell.

You are right, they did not write the bible but they decided what books should be in the bible as we know it today. Remember, there were so many books but the Catholics decided to bring some together and give us the bible as we know it now.
And I would love to have this discussion with you about hell

silibaba:
What is holding angel Gabriel from blowing the trumpet.

We are who we are, the world is what it is.

Haba take it easy. Who told you angel Gabriel is offended? You guys make everyone sinners

cornelboy:
Okay but don't you have a church? At least their doctrines would have influenced your opinion here.

I noticed one of your JW brothers asking you to be careful of me and I laugh. He might be right though. I would always tell you my opinion even when it's against your religion.
I would ask you questions and if you are a fanatic, you would end up hating me like that your brother.
I would continually ask you to prove your point from the Bible.
I see you after a few debates getting to hate me like that your brother.

see, this is very simple. when you come out and tell others that they are false and only you have a monopoly of the truth, I guess they are entitled to ask you questions. And you don't end up hating them when you cant answer.
Let me give you an example. One of your people openly called the catholic church the church of the devil. I then reminded him that the bible he uses and believes was put together by the Catholics and the devil is not capable of any good thing so If you call the Catholics to question, you also have to call their bible to question. Your brother went totally crazy because of this. i had to leave him alone for his own good.

cornelboy:
Thanks bro.
You know my aim is to get someone to the Truth, so one has to be cool, patient and that.
But I'll still like to know what the complete teaching is and the church you belong to. That'll be fair since you know im a JW to be.

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Sorry bro, I don't discuss my personal religion here. I only discuss doctrines and principles. And I don't think the JW is the worst church. They have their good points.
I do not want to see this forum as a place for marketing any particular church. So, my brother, you may not want to bring up your church here but if you do, you should be ready to hear from me. I would be using the bible to question your opinions.

cornelboy:
Okay but don't you have a church? At least their doctrines would have influenced your opinion here.

Do you think I learnt that meat contains blood in church?

cornelboy:
Ona no get good sense of humour jare.
Which teaching complete o and which church do you attend?

I must commend you though, you are one of the few good men here. You have not been disrespectful even when we disagree. I hope it continues like that because I am sure we would disagree much more in the future.

providencia:
Isn't this place part of Internet?

The Internet is not a robot. It's a collection of people communicating through technology.
Nairaland is called a forum for a reason. People come here to get answers. Having sex could trigger weight gain or sometime's weight loss. Science isn't resolved on this. Sex releases lots of hormones some could change the body growth patterns.
Sperms on the other hand are very rich in nutrients. Eating healthy sperms would be of great health benefit to anyone

Lilimax:
Just negodu the number of people viewing this thread.

I am sure most of them are coming to see the picture of the man caught in the act but were highly disappointed

Abeg give your life to Jesus if you have not done so

You preach like a disrespectful idiot. Have some respect for God

cornelboy:
Ona no get good sense of humour jare.
Which teaching complete o and which church do you attend?

I come to nairaland as an individual. I do not represent any church here.
I am not one of those that come here to defend a particular church even when the church is obviously wrong. You can scroll through my past comments to verify.
But as for the blood issue, only my JW brothers know where they got that one from.
Hopefully they would change their position with time

cornelboy:
Well even doctors and scientist drink alcohol, no big deal. But if you had health issue on little drinking na to quit na.
Jesus drank acoholic wine. And he knows better than anyone.

Even doctors and scientists take cocaine
It's not about any profession. My message here is just plainly about your health. You are better off without any alcohol in your system.
And it nearly impossible to measure how much alcohol is too much for the body.
If you want, I would send you the links of some health journals so you can update your knowledge of alcohol

cornelboy:
Cornelboy go soon popular like burnaboy
I'm not trapped

I wish you success in your quest for popularity. But then I hope you see the danger of an incomplete teaching. A doctrine that cant stand facts and science. the JW won't take blood but they take plasma derived from blood, and refuse red blood cells also derived from blood

cornelboy:
See the point is if you don't drink it's all good.
If someone drinks in moderation don't criticize.
And if you can't control yourself, stop drinking.
I don't drink alcohol myself. But i love and drink chilled palm wine moderately.

I am not criticizing. I am just saying that it's impossible to decide what is moderate for your body. There is not really a very scientific way to measure what constitutes as moderate alcohol intake. For all you know, I might be a drunk. It's not about my personal beliefs or lifestyle but the science behind drinking.

achorladey:
That post was referring to cornelboy response. Read it again you will see it. I was trying to make you see that he is only reading, copying from somewhere. He simply lacks the key policies surrounding all these things he is posting.

Sorry seems I did not read it right. The cornelboy got himself trapped in some funny doctrine

achorladey:
Na la cram la pour. For now he is only reading, copying and pasting. I don't think he is digesting it at all.

They said ABSTAIN from POTATOES they decided collect the POTATOES, extract the Starch to cook soup, eat the soup then clean mouth and say, look our hands are clean we are still abstaining from POTATOES

You really are confused. Just like you are told not to eat meat but you cook with meat stock, how smart are you. Your point is that if you break down blood into its constituent parts, you are free to use it. That makes zero sense. And that is very dishonest of you and I would prove it.
If you believe it's ok to use the constituents of blood then when are JW against the use of red and white blood cells. Blood is basically a mixture of many things. You claim God asked you to abstain but you comfortably use constituents of blood. Did God say that you can use plasma but not red blood cells? We all know that the manmade commandment is not sustainable. I guess it's easy for people with poor science education to believe funny stuff.

cornelboy:
Anything that's dangerous to your health drop it.
Smoking generally damages the lungs...

Thats why we shouldn't drink alcohol. Very dangerous to the health even when you don't get drunk.

cornelboy:
They don't accept any of the four primary fractions

Blood plasma fractionation refers to the general process of separating the various components of blood plasma, which in turn is a component of blood obtained through blood fractionation.
If you don't know, now you know.

cornelboy:
You talk as if you don't believe in God.

God commanded them to avoid eating or drinking or consuming blood in any form. Likewise he said they shouldn't eat meat without draining so as to avoid consuming of blood. So if they drained the blood out they are free to eat.
My question is; wasn't God aware then that if they drained the meat, there would still be some blood left in some internal organs?

Perhaps you don't know that your proving God as not all knowing and senseless cos of your indefinite ranting about the amount of blood left in the meat and claiming that despite draining we still eat blood.
Na you go give us standard abi God?
God was clear bout it. Eat meat after draining, that's the standard. Whether blood remain in the vein or not, it doesn't matter.

But intentionally taking another person's blood into your body by transfusion is not different from eating or drinking or consuming it.

The law is mainly bout blood. So to avoid consuming blood from meat, it's to be drained. Naso the bible put am no be me.

Why would God say he hates planting different crops in a row or joining linen and wool together?
There are some things God sees as abominable that we take as normal.


You have your view and JWs have theirs but you don't need to condemn their view.
Judge yourself between JWs and other christians, which of their belief on blood transfusion obeys God's law of abstaining from blood?

I believe in God but I dont believe in men's poorly thought out laws. You say, But intentionally taking another person's blood into your body by transfusion is not different from eating or drinking or consuming it. How about intentionally consuming meat when you know it contains at least 5% blood.

cornelboy:
You talk as if you don't believe in God.

God commanded them to avoid eating or drinking or consuming blood in any form. Likewise he said they shouldn't eat meat without draining so as to avoid consuming of blood. So if they drained the blood out they are free to eat.
My question is; wasn't God aware then that if they drained the meat, there would still be some blood left in some internal organs?

Perhaps you don't know that your proving God as not all knowing and senseless cos of your indefinite ranting about the amount of blood left in the meat and claiming that despite draining we still eat blood.
Na you go give us standard abi God?
God was clear bout it. Eat meat after draining, that's the standard. Whether blood remain in the vein or not, it doesn't matter.

But intentionally taking another person's blood into your body by transfusion is not different from eating or drinking or consuming it.

The law is mainly bout blood. So to avoid consuming blood from meat, it's to be drained. Naso the bible put am no be me.

Why would God say he hates planting different crops in a row or joining linen and wool together?
There are some things God sees as abominable that we take as normal.


You have your view and JWs have theirs but you don't need to condemn their view.
Judge yourself between JWs and other christians, which of their belief on blood transfusion obeys God's law of abstaining from blood?

You are the one talking like you know more than God. He said to drain blood from the meat. He never spoke about transfusion. The reason you gave for refusing transfusion is equally found in eating meat. It's that simple. you act as you know more than God. I never condemn anyone I just challenged their opinion. You cant be eating meat, liver, and receiving fractionated plasma then claiming blood transfusion is any different. Pure hypocrisy. I also don't think we have to interpret for God. All his commandments are 100%. If its not clearly stated, then its not God's commandment.

cornelboy:
They don't accept any of the four primary fractions

I know that too but what they accept is clearly a product of blood. I mean did God tell them what part of the blood to accept and what to reject?

cornelboy:
Lesson 43 Enjoy Life Forever

pls if your comments would be against this post, ensure to reference verses from the Bible to back it up

How Should Christians View Alcohol?
Around the world, people have different opinions about alcohol. Some enjoy sharing an occasional drink with friends. Others choose not to drink at all. Still others drink to the point of getting drunk. What is the Bible’s view of alcohol?
1. Is it wrong to drink alcoholic beverages? The Bible does not condemn drinking alcohol. On the contrary, when listing many gifts that God has given us, the Bible includes “wine that makes man’s heart rejoice.” (Psalm 104:14, 15) Some faithful men and women mentioned in the Bible drank alcoholic beverages.​—1 Timothy 5:23.
23 Do not drink water any longer, but take a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent cases of sickness.

Have you noticed that many Christians are comfortable with Alcohol but they have issues with tobacco and Cannabis? How do we reconcile this?

cornelboy:
Are you telling me God wasn't aware of these facts before giving the law?

The procedure is simple, drain the blood of the animals before eating, avoid eating strangled one. God is okay with that since most of the blood has been drained.

[color=#000000]Leviticus 17:10-14
[10]“And if any native Israelite or foreigner living among you eats or drinks blood in any form, I will turn against that person and cut him off from the community of your people,
[11]for the life of the body is in its blood. I have given you the blood on the altar to purify you, making you right with the lord. It is the blood, given in exchange for a life, that makes purification possible.
[12]That is why I have said to the people of Israel, ‘You must never eat or drink blood—neither you nor the foreigners living among you.’
[13]“And if any native Israelite or foreigner living among you goes hunting and kills an animal or bird that is approved for eating, he must drain its blood and cover it with earth.
[14]The life of every creature is in its blood. That is why I have said to the people of Israel, ‘You must never eat or drink blood, for the life of any creature is in its blood.’ So whoever consumes blood will be cut off from the community.

Leviticus 19:26
[26]“Do not eat meat that has not been drained of its blood.“

Acts of the Apostles 15:20
[20]Instead, we should write and tell them to abstain from eating food offered to idols, from sexual immorality, from eating the meat of strangled animals, and from consuming blood. [/color]

I'm not forcing it on you bro, if you fail to see the reasons JWs abstain from blood, it's okay. Thank you.

Jehovah's witnesses do not believe in blood transfusion but they accept unfractionated plasma which is the largest component of blood. How do you reconcile the two? Like all humans, they also have to stay alive even if they have to twist their laws

buttlover:
But bro will Google adsense accept your YouTube videos with other people's watermark? Like TikTok?. Just asking

If you really understand how these things work, you would know that I doesn't matter. If this video goes viral, his channel would have more subscribers. Other videos in his channel would have more views.
Grow your channel first that think about Adsense after

cornelboy:
Are you telling me God wasn't aware of these facts before giving the law?

The procedure is simple, drain the blood of the animals before eating, avoid eating strangled one. God is okay with that since most of the blood has been drained.

[color=#000000]Leviticus 17:10-14
[10]“And if any native Israelite or foreigner living among you eats or drinks blood in any form, I will turn against that person and cut him off from the community of your people,
[11]for the life of the body is in its blood. I have given you the blood on the altar to purify you, making you right with the lord. It is the blood, given in exchange for a life, that makes purification possible.
[12]That is why I have said to the people of Israel, ‘You must never eat or drink blood—neither you nor the foreigners living among you.’
[13]“And if any native Israelite or foreigner living among you goes hunting and kills an animal or bird that is approved for eating, he must drain its blood and cover it with earth.
[14]The life of every creature is in its blood. That is why I have said to the people of Israel, ‘You must never eat or drink blood, for the life of any creature is in its blood.’ So whoever consumes blood will be cut off from the community.

Leviticus 19:26
[26]“Do not eat meat that has not been drained of its blood.“

Acts of the Apostles 15:20
[20]Instead, we should write and tell them to abstain from eating food offered to idols, from sexual immorality, from eating the meat of strangled animals, and from consuming blood. [/color]

I'm not forcing it on you bro, if you fail to see the reasons JWs abstain from blood, it's okay. Thank you.

In your words, God is okay with that since most of the blood has been drained. Its a bit funny to me. You seem to be saying that it's no longer about taking in blood but the amount you take in. So if I may ask, what is the specified amount of blood that we can consume?
Let's get serious here, the only thing God spoke about is eating blood. Neither of us has a right to add. When we add, it gets confusing and we end up making a fool of ourselves with our facts got wrong.
Before I educated you about the quantity of blood in meat, I am sure you had no idea. The laws of God are firm, clear, and direct. The cant be proved wrong by facts.

cornelboy:
Are you telling me God wasn't aware of these facts before giving the law?

The procedure is simple, drain the blood of the animals before eating, avoid eating strangled one. God is okay with that since most of the blood has been drained.

[color=#000000]Leviticus 17:10-14
[10]“And if any native Israelite or foreigner living among you eats or drinks blood in any form, I will turn against that person and cut him off from the community of your people,
[11]for the life of the body is in its blood. I have given you the blood on the altar to purify you, making you right with the lord. It is the blood, given in exchange for a life, that makes purification possible.
[12]That is why I have said to the people of Israel, ‘You must never eat or drink blood—neither you nor the foreigners living among you.’
[13]“And if any native Israelite or foreigner living among you goes hunting and kills an animal or bird that is approved for eating, he must drain its blood and cover it with earth.
[14]The life of every creature is in its blood. That is why I have said to the people of Israel, ‘You must never eat or drink blood, for the life of any creature is in its blood.’ So whoever consumes blood will be cut off from the community.

Leviticus 19:26
[26]“Do not eat meat that has not been drained of its blood.“

Acts of the Apostles 15:20
[20]Instead, we should write and tell them to abstain from eating food offered to idols, from sexual immorality, from eating the meat of strangled animals, and from consuming blood. [/color]

I'm not forcing it on you bro, if you fail to see the reasons JWs abstain from blood, it's okay. Thank you.

you are making my point for me. God gave a very strict law about draining blood so let's stop there why add blood transfusion? If God was against us taking up blood, he would have banned the eating of meat. Clearly, God was not against us taking blood he was only against us eating it as a meal. The only commandment we have against blood is in relationship to eating no transfusion. We don't know more than god so dont add to his words

cornelboy:
Once the animal had been bled and the blood drained properly, the blood left in the veins or arteries doesn't matter.

You see, both of us agree that God commanded we bleed and drain animals before eating but It stops there. Let's not add new laws that make no sense because we only end up getting confused. If we can eat meat knowing it still has blood in it then why create a new law banning transfusion?
If God's purpose was for us not to take any blood into our body, he would have ban meat, clearly, that wasn't his purpose. We are not smarter than God.

cornelboy:
Once the animal had been bled and the blood drained properly, the blood left in the veins or arteries doesn't matter.

Is God against eating of liver?
The liver holds about 1 pint (13%) of the body's blood supply at any given moment. The liver has 2 main parts (lobes).