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MaxInDHouse:
You still have a long way to go!

Jesus is one of God's spirit sons just like angels, but humans are from Adam and Eve through reproduction process. That's why only Jesus was born without sexual reproduction!

I rather listen to the Word of God than your personal view. Where are angels described as Sons of God? I know your personal view now use the scriptures.
And yes, I have a long way to go. I don't claim to know so much I ask questions. I expect you to reply with the word of God.

MaxInDHouse:
God is the father of all Creation!
Jesus has existed before his transformation into the womb of Mary. Micah 5:2
No human spirit live in heaven before so stop deceiving yourself!

Ecclesiastes 12:7
7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

You can argue with me but you can't argue with the word of God. Unless you have a different Bible, These are the Lord's teachings

Proverbs 20:27
The spirit of man is the lamp of the Lord, searching all his innermost parts.

Romans 8:16
The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,

Zechariah 12:1
The burden of the word of the Lord concerning Israel: Thus declares the Lord, who stretched out the heavens and founded the earth and formed the spirit of man within him:

1 Corinthians 2:11
For who knows a person's thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.

Romans 8:10
But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Acts 7:59

And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”

From these verses, we learn that the spirit of man is active and intelligent. We also learn that the spirit remains alive after the death of the body. The spirit does not die. Furthermore, God communicates to us through our spirits. WE ARE CHILDREN OF GOD BECAUSE HE IS THE FATHER OF OUR SPIRITS. jUST LIKE A CHILD IS FORMED WITHIN ITS MOTHER, OUR SPIRITS WERE FORMED WITHIN GOD.

MaxInDHouse:
GROUP practicing what Jesus taught!

I can confidently say nobody will respond to you on such a thread apart from Jehovah's Witnesses!

I have no issue with who responds or who doesn't it's a free world.

MaxInDHouse:
Our spirit (breath) came from God and it's the same spirit that's in animals! Ecclesiastes 3:19-20

Where is it written that angels are the sons of God?

MaxInDHouse:
Our spirit (breath) came from God and it's the same spirit that's in animals! Ecclesiastes 3:19-20

I just quoted Ecclesiastes 3:19-20 it never said that. But even if it did what is your point. All spirits came from God even Jesus Christ's are you saying he has the spirit of an animal?
Is God not the father of our spirits? what is your point

MaxInDHouse:
Adam doesn't have any spirit that survived his body after death. It's just the breath of life that we have and it's the same thing that's in animals! Ecclesiastes 3:19-20

Hebrews 12:9
Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live!

God is literally the father of the spirits of all mankind (see Hebrews 12:9; Acts 17:28-29; Numbers 16:22)
Jesus declared that his god is our god and that his father is our father (see John 20:17)

ZECHARIAH 12:1

The burden of the word of the Lord for Israel, saith the Lord who stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him:

The bible clearly states that our spirits came from God, not Adam.
I mean, you claim to be the chosen sect and you are claiming that the spirit of man came from Adam. Do you have another bible?

MaxInDHouse:
I'm using this medium to assure you that only Jehovah's Witnesses will respond to such a thread because they are the only people fully competent and completely equipped to speak about their faith! 2Timothy 3:16-17

Anyone that responds is welcome

MaxInDHouse:
Adam doesn't have any spirit that survived his body after death. It's just the breath of life that we have and it's the same thing that's in animals! Ecclesiastes 3:19-20

I don't get you. You mean is spirit died? The verse you quoted does not say anything about the death of his spirit.

19 Surely the fate of human beings is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath[a]; humans have no advantage over animals. Everything is meaningless. 20 All go to the same place; all come from dust, and to dust all return.
This scripture does not reflect your point. Please can you explain how this scripture reflects anything you said?

MaxInDHouse:
NO!
How to identify the group practicing what Jesus taught!

That would be a nice thread

MaxInDHouse:
NO!
All humans are from Adam just like other earthly creatures only angels are God's spirit sons like Jesus!

Wait you say our spirits are from Adam? Can you point out a single verse that claims angles are God's spirit sons

MaxInDHouse:
Only Jehovah's Witnesses are preaching what Jesus preached!

maybe we would discuss that in another thread. How to identify the true followers of Jesus Christ. It would be a great topic of its own.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is one of God's spirit sons!
The difference between Jesus and other spirit sons of God is he is the first creature God made directly all by Himself {Colossians 1:15} and afterwards God empowered him to create all other things, both in heaven and on earth! Colossians 1:16 compare to Proverbs 8:22-31

Good, now you are right Jesus is not the only one from the spirit world as you claimed earlier. The spirit of all humans came from God as spirit children of God. thank you for correcting yourself

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus wasn't targeting a crowd of faithless people, it's about those practicing what Jesus taught globally. They must have love for their fellow believers never to join military services and start raising weapons against their fellow believers.
Only Jehovah's Witnesses know this!

Only Jw preach Jw doctrine
Redeem teach redeem doctrine.
Now we can have a discussion to find out who is teaching the doctrine of Christ. but when it comes to preaching, many do it better

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted!

So Jesus lied that he's the only person who came from the spirit realms! John 8:23

Jesus never said he is the only person from the spirit realm. I don't know the translation of the bible you are using. But then if you claim that angels are also sons of God then that also means Jesus was not the only one like you Claim. What really is your point.

Trevor007007:
Never wanted to quote you but I just noticed that from all your reply to Max from the Bible or holy scriptures you keep using literal sense to explain, if you keep doing that you will never understand Max from now till your expire. I rest my case, we move.

Actually I think I am gradually understanding him but I do not agree with him

MaxInDHouse:
To my house, only Jehovah's Witnesses came and after preaching they continue coming to TEACH me just as Jesus commanded them! Matthew 28:19-20

Redeem are in 165 countries. sorry if they did not come to your house, they came to others in 165 countries

MaxInDHouse:
You've forgotten that action speaks louder than words!
People can PREACH and not put it to practice including taking the information round the world.
That's why Jesus said:

TEACHING them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things Matthew 28:20

After commanding that we PREACH it Jesus include TEACHING them how to APPLY it.

So ask yourself:

Which group do people know globally preaching and teaching against WARS?
This is not what you read in papers but what we all know in our neighbourhood!

If you talk about preaching the Gospel, many organizations do it much better than JW. Take for example a chuch like Redeem. It's less than 70 years yet it is in over 100 countries and has more members than JW. They have obviously done a better job preaching the gospel.

MaxInDHouse:
When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? Job 38:7

When God created the heavens humans weren't there so learn today that the sons of God there are angels!

Job never said the angels were the sons of God. The spirit of man has always been with God in heaven. Our spirits are his children. Just Like Christ. Christ was with the father as a Son not as Flesh and Blood before he came down to earth. All Men are spirit children of God.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus did not ask me to look for them in newspapers or social media.
He commanded them to come and TEACH me in my house! Matthew 10:12-13

Only Jehovah's Witnesses came to my house and taught me, they never waited for me to search for them on Google, in fact this December 12 they're marking a century of PREACHING and TEACHING against WARS in the world's most populous black nation Nigeria!

many churches have come to my house

MaxInDHouse:
The history of Christianity is about persecution for their FAITH not because they interfere in politics.
Only Jehovah's Witnesses are persecuted for not taking sides in politics just as Jesus was neutral! John 15:19; 17:14-16

Do you want me to give you a list of churches persecuted for not taking political sides or you rather Google it.

MaxInDHouse:
Now when men started to grow in number on the surface of the ground and daughters were born to them, the sons of the true God began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful. So they began taking as wives all whom they chose. Genesis 6:1-2

The sons of God there are angels that left their heavenly position, materialized human bodies for themselves and start having sex with female humans (daughters of men)

You can go for another interpretation but i've presented what those having authority to teach taught me.

Jesus' group is just one and they're not SCATTERED in different sects claiming denominations of the same religion! Luke 11:23

So if you know a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses let me know!

You claim that the sons of God are angles. What if I show you 10 verses that describes man as the children of God would that change your mind? In fact no single verse in the entire bible described angels as the sons of God.

MaxInDHouse:
My friend when you say one to ten but they're not preaching and teaching it then in what way are they doing it effectively?

Jehovah's Witnesses are known globally with our teachings that's what it means to present WORKS not just FAITH! James 2:18

I don't understand your point. You said you are the only guys that preach abstaining from war. I gave you 3 organizations that started that even before you so what is your point really.

NNTR:
I am pleased to see that you know that the soul and the spirit are not the same.

Now next please the two following questions
What is soul, then after that, list what are its faculties?
What is spirit, then after that, list what are its faculties?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

That's a big question. Start a new thread for that.

MaxInDHouse:
My friend, i'm just kicking off false religions!

There are many things to consider: FAITH
~in God
~in God's Kingdom (Government)
~in Abrahamic Covenant
~in the lineage of Jacob
~in the Promised Messiah (Christ)
~in Jesus as the promised Messiah
~in the group practicing what Jesus taught
~in oneness of Jesus group
~in Love permeating their gathering
~in preaching and teaching work
~in eradication of racism among believers
~in none participation in politics

No group can meet up with these requirements if they're not connected to Christ!

These are your conditions.. We are talking of Christ conditions. A church that claims angels sleep with women is not meeting Christ conditions.
If you want us to discuss the conditions for the true church, I am open to it.

MaxInDHouse:
No i only want you to know that even when there is contradictions among Pharisees Sadducees, Scribes, and other Jewish Rabbis Jesus' group is singled out as Satanists! Matthew 10:25

You think you are the only group others persecute? You really don't know much about Christian history then.

TenQ:
Let me rephrase so as to remove all ambiguities

Of All who claim to follow Christ, the JW's lead the pack of those who disrespect the plain teachings of the bible!

I would not answer for another man's beliefs

MaxInDHouse:
Only JWs are against WARS!

Good you don't know. I would now give you a few churches that are against war. You can make your research.
Society of Friends or Quakers, the Church of the Brethren, and the Mennonites. All these churches are much older than JW. I can also give you up to 10 younger churches that don't do war.

MaxInDHouse:
YES! YES!! YES!!!
They are not organized like Jehovah's Witnesses.
Being organized simply means they will share the same line of thought just as Jesus prayed {John 17:20-23} if they do who do you think will pick up weapons to go and kill his brother in Christ living in other countries?
Only Jehovah's Witnesses know that it's wrong to pick up weapons due to the orders from a politician then aim at his fellow believer in Christ!
All other religions will do that except Jehovah's Witnesses who are truly ORGANIZED under Jesus Christ! John 13:34-35

Just so you know, JW is not the first or even the last Church that is against fighting of war. So it's not like it's special. Others started it first.

MaxInDHouse:
You're now doing exactly what you accused me of!
I never said i'm the one given the authority to interpret God's word but i learned from those given the authority to do so. That's why i can quote the scriptures to authenticate what i learned from them. But if you don't agree with what i'm saying it's OK you can hold onto what you believe.
It's a free world my friend!

Oh you are saying that you don't have the authority but you represent someone you believe to have the authority right?

MaxInDHouse:
He said:



That's audible enough!

He said not I so what is your point. He is entitled to his beliefson now you want to hold me responsible for another man's statement?

MaxInDHouse:
YES! YES!! YES!!!
They are not organized like Jehovah's Witnesses.
Being organized simply means they will share the same line of thought just as Jesus prayed {John 17:20-23} if they do who do you think will pick up weapons to go and kill his brother in Christ living in other countries?
Only Jehovah's Witnesses know that it's wrong to pick up weapons due to the orders from a politician then aim at his fellow believer in Christ!
All other religions will do that except Jehovah's Witnesses who are truly ORGANIZED under Jesus Christ! John 13:34-35

You keep doing this, you raise one verse in the scripture, interpret it and use it as the yardstick for the entire scripture.
What if I show you other organizations that don't pick up arms? Since you believe that picking arms is the sole measure of God's people, if I show you others that don't pick up arms, would you agree that that are also God's true church?

MaxInDHouse:
You're not the one i quoted, i just want you to note what the person said:



Yet there are over 41,000 different sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming denominations of Christianity!

There is no need to do that. The other person does not represent me. I have met people that condemn Catholic, I have met those that hate latter day saints, I know people that hate synagogue. You are not the only church that gets knocks from people.