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MaxInDHouse:
I've told you that the Bible doesn't TEACH it's only information that needed someone to enlighten you regarding the meaning:

Philip ran alongside and heard him reading aloud Isaiah the prophet, and he said: “Do you actually know what you are reading ?”  He said: “Really, how could I ever do so unless someone guided me?” So he urged Philip to get on and sit down with him. Act 8:30-31

Jesus is the sole mediator of everything that's written in the Bible that's why he is appropriately called "the word of God" {John 1:1} he love using illustrations {Matthew 13:13} so if the reader doesn't learn from his true disciples it will be difficult to comprehend so many things Jesus said. That's why he said:

Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, TEACHING them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things! Matthew 28:19-20

So if you feel like reading and understanding what you're reading it's OK but if you want to learn i'll implore you to start from the grassroot of the information about God's Kingdom.

May you have PEACE!

We can continue playing over symatics. Of course the bible is a book, it does not teach rather, it contains the teachings of Christ.
Again, do you understand what you are saying. You claim to be the chosen one who is able to interpret God's word. But I have given you a chance to do so. I ask questions, I bring up scriptures and you have the floor to interpret as you choose. What more do you want?If you claim to have the ultimate power to interpret God's Word I would tell from the way you answer questions and conduct yourself. Anyone can claim anything. I have given you the opportunity to prove what you claim

MaxInDHouse:
Are all the over 41,000 different sects claiming denominations of Christianity having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines Christians all together?

If not then which of all these groups is practicing what Jesus taught?

I believe it's Jehovah's Witnesses.
So which of them is practicing Christianity for real or you don't believe God answered Jesus' prayer regarding global oneness of thought among his disciples?

 “I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one, so that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me. John 17:20:23

Which group do you know that people globally know them as ONE regarding their beliefs?

The answer to your question is every other church.
Catholics have 1 belief system.
Redeem share 1 belief system.
7 days adventist all believe the same.
Wait, you really thought that other churches are not organized that only your church members agree in their beliefs?

MaxInDHouse:
When you hear people utter statements like this when there are over 41,000 different sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines claiming denominations of the same religion.
Why not ask which of the religions on planet earth respects the scriptures when there's is contradictions everywhere!

Well the secret of the matter is that Jesus' true disciples will be singled out of all the religions in the world! John 15:19

tctrills take note

Honestly I don't understand what you mean here. You keep implying things I did not say.

NNTR:
Though you saw how I already procured Hebrews 4:12, and shared it as evidence, thank you, all the same, for further cementing my point for me with your contribution

It is an incontrovertible fact that there is a distinction between the soul and the spirit

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

The scriptures clearly teach that the soul and body are not the same.
Matthew 10.28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

MaxInDHouse:
When you hear people talk about Jehovah's Witnesses and our beliefs so much, what exactly do you think makes those people keep thinking about us as if there's no other group claiming Christians on this earth with unique teachings?

Well i have decided to let you be since you said it's not important to you whether you find a group whose teachings is WORKING out what Jesus said, but for the reason that you still came back to me i'll oblige to your question.

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are the symbol of God's blessings to the Israelites so any time someone mention their names an Israelite knows that such a person is talking about the blessings God has in stock for faithful people.

God's Kingdom blessings will be on this earth so Abraham, Isaac and Jacob certainly are expected to be part of the beneficiaries. But when Jesus talks about sitting down with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in God's Kingdom he is not talking about those three in person rather he's referring to the opportunity their descendants will have in being co-rulers in God's Kingdom. God told Abraham that by means of him all the nations of the earth will be blessed {Genesis 12:3} Abraham had 8 sons but God passed the blessings to Isaac, Isaac also had 2 sons, the first born Esau supposed to inherit that blessing but because he doesn't cherish the heritage Jacob his twin brother took it from him. That's how the Israelites {Jacob's descendants} became God's blessed people. God promised that during the endtime anyone who wants to be blessed throughout the earth must connect Him through the lineage of Jacob! Zechariah 8:23

But the Jews (Jesus' own race) rejected Jesus as the promised seed {Genesis 3:15} that's coming to save the world, that's why God will select people from different races to complete the number of co-rulers that's going to reign with Christ {John 1:11-12} so when this is done there will be jealousy on the part of Jews who rejected Jesus' credentials as their promised Messiah and they will be gnashing their teeth at the arrangement, then God will reject their nation and they will weep when their suffering begin but nobody will rescue them.
So Jesus is telling them here that the blessings God promised them as bonafide heirs to the throne will be given to people from other nations {Matthew 22:1-13} while they will die and be forgotten in their graves that is where their gnashing of teeth and hypocritical weeping after their rebellion will land them! Matthew 8:11-12

All these are sacred secrets of God's Kingdom so only those who first accept the elementary teachings of the truth can grasp all these things. Whoever feels he don't need the elementary teachings will be confused when he gets to this solid spiritual food. That's why we are imploring people to learn the first things they need to know about God's kingdom instead of wrapping everything up thinking they're going to heaven with Jesus.

May you have PEACE!

I am not sure you read the verse. You said "that is where their gnashing of teeth and hypocritical weeping after their rebellion will land them"[color=#770077][/color]

but the bible taught that they would be sent to a place where there would be gnashing of teeth and weeping not where there ghashing and weeping would land them. Please go and read the verse.

11 And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

MaxInDHouse:
When you hear people talk about Jehovah's Witnesses and our beliefs so much, what exactly do you think makes those people keep thinking about us as if there's no other group claiming Christians on this earth with unique teachings?

Well i have decided to let you be since you said it's not important to you whether you find a group whose teachings is WORKING out what Jesus said, but for the reason that you still came back to me i'll oblige to your question.

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are the symbol of God's blessings to the Israelites so any time someone mention their names an Israelite knows that such a person is talking about the blessings God has in stock for faithful people.

God's Kingdom blessings will be on this earth so Abraham, Isaac and Jacob certainly are expected to be part of the beneficiaries. But when Jesus talks about sitting down with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in God's Kingdom he is not talking about those three in person rather he's referring to the opportunity their descendants will have in being co-rulers in God's Kingdom. God told Abraham that by means of him all the nations of the earth will be blessed {Genesis 12:3} Abraham had 8 sons but God passed the blessings to Isaac, Isaac also had 2 sons, the first born Esau supposed to inherit that blessing but because he doesn't cherish the heritage Jacob his twin brother took it from him. That's how the Israelites {Jacob's descendants} became God's blessed people. God promised that during the endtime anyone who wants to be blessed throughout the earth must connect Him through the lineage of Jacob! Zechariah 8:23

But the Jews (Jesus' own race) rejected Jesus as the promised seed {Genesis 3:15} that's coming to save the world, that's why God will select people from different races to complete the number of co-rulers that's going to reign with Christ {John 1:11-12} so when this is done there will be jealousy on the part of Jews who rejected Jesus' credentials as their promised Messiah and they will be gnashing their teeth at the arrangement, then God will reject their nation and they will weep when their suffering begin but nobody will rescue them.
So Jesus is telling them here that the blessings God promised them as bonafide heirs to the throne will be given to people from other nations {Matthew 22:1-13} while they will die and be forgotten in their graves that is where their gnashing of teeth and hypocritical weeping after their rebellion will land them! Matthew 8:11-12

All these are sacred secrets of God's Kingdom so only those who first accept the elementary teachings of the truth can grasp all these things. Whoever feels he don't need the elementary teachings will be confused when he gets to this solid spiritual food. That's why we are imploring people to learn the first things they need to know about God's kingdom instead of wrapping everything up thinking they're going to heaven with Jesus.

May you have PEACE!

It's dishonest of you to misquote me. We both know that I never said I am not interested in a group whose teachings are in line with Christ. I have always used the bible and the doctrines of Christ as the basis of my discussions with you. So it's unfair of you to make such a statement. I expected better from you.
I only said I am not looking for a group that picks a few verses in the bible to suit their belief system while neglecting or explaining away the rest of the Bible.
For example if the foundation of your beliefs is not taking part in politics but then you deny many clear teaching's in the scriptures or you add Strange doctrines that are not scriptural, for example saying that angels come around to sleep with girls.

MaxInDHouse:
That's where the understanding is!

The unjust are people who don't know God's standard but lived by what their conscience tolerate. For instance people do commit adultery and fornication in times past but don't know about the God of Israel who abhors such things. People do worship idols in times past but don't know it's wrong yet they lived by conscience. So from God's standpoint they are unrighteous but since they allow their conscience to guide them then God will give them a second chance to know Him.
The righteous are people who knew God's standard and lived by it like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses and many others that's why Paul listed their names for us to know those God declared righteous not because they knew Jesus Christ but due to their loyalty towards God's standard that they knew during their lifetime! Hebrews 11:4-32

As for all those destroyed by God Himself they passed directly to everlasting death!

So only the good are awaiting resurrection in God's memory no evildoer will be remembered. I keep quoting this verse but it's like you just chose to ignore it:

The wicked will retreat toward the Grave, All the nations who forget God. NWT

The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. KJV

The wicked go down to the realm of the dead, all the nations that forget God. NIV

Psalms 9:17

Can you explain what God's word is saying here? We all know that all sinners will die due to Adamic sin {Romans 5:12} and ever since everyone both good and evil are dying, and they are still in their graves until now.
So what is the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of this particular verse?

I just came across this verse tonight.
Matthew 8.11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.

12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
If there is no resurrection for the wicked, who are those that would be cast into outer darkness. The dead do not weep or gnash their teeth.

Metrix147:
Two persons suspected to be ritualists have been nabbed by locals in Amaeze autonomous community, Ugwueke in Bende local government area of Abia State during a 'juju' section near a river called Eze Stream, ABN TV reports.

They were accused of being behind the deaths of many locals in the community, ABN TV gathered.

Items recovered from them include red candles, white feathers, live chickens, and others.

One of the suspects, a member of the community whose identity could not be ascertained as at the moment of this report is said to have a shrine in his home, which was later demolished by the angry locals.

His counterpart is said to be from outside the community.

Upon interrogation, they claimed they are only exercising their religious rites, insisting that they have not committed any crime.

Source: https://abntv.com.ng/2021/11/suspected-ritualists-nabbed-in-abia-community-performing-juju-in-river-graphic-photos/

Most everyone be a Christian? Adore people no longer free to worship whatever they want? Why do modern-day Christians love forcing religion on others?

haddeylium:
I said, do your research. You said; you don't speak Hebrew. There are bible aids on the internet that can help with this.
The Hebrew word pneuma was translated to Spirit in English means Breath/blow of breath.
Bible translators use either breath or spirit based on their discretion.

Byington
Ecclesiastes 3:19
1 as this one dies, so does that one, and everything has one spirit, and man has no superiority over cattle because everything is nonsense.

American Standard Version
Ecclesiastes 3:19
19For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; and man hath no preeminence above the beasts: for all is vanity.
Rotherham

Ecclesiastes 3:19
19For as regardeth the destiny of the sons of men and the destiny of beasts one fate have they, as dieth the one so dieth the other, and one spirit have they all,—and the pre-eminence of man over beast is nothing, for all were vanity:

To understand the spirit of man is an intelligent and conscious spirit, let me give you a list of verses to learn from.

Proverbs 20:27
The spirit of man is the lamp of the Lord, searching all his innermost parts.

Romans 8:16
The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,

Zechariah 12:1
The burden of the word of the Lord concerning Israel: Thus declares the Lord, who stretched out the heavens and founded the earth and formed the spirit of man within him:

1 Corinthians 2:11
For who knows a person's thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.

Romans 8:10
But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Acts 7:59

And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”

From these verses, we learn that the spirit of man is active and intelligent. We also learn that the spirit remains alive after the death of the body. The spirit does not die. Furthermore, God communicates to us through our spirits. WE ARE CHILDREN OF GOD BECAUSE HE IS THE FATHER OF OUR SPIRITS. jUST LIKE A CHILD IS FORMED WITHIN ITS MOTHER, OUR SPIRITS WERE FORMED WITHIN GOD.

haddeylium:
I said, do your research. You said; you don't speak Hebrew. There are bible aids on the internet that can help with this.
The Hebrew word pneuma was translated to Spirit in English means Breath/blow of breath.
Bible translators use either breath or spirit based on their discretion.

Byington
Ecclesiastes 3:19
1 as this one dies, so does that one, and everything has one spirit, and man has no superiority over cattle because everything is nonsense.

American Standard Version
Ecclesiastes 3:19
19For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; and man hath no preeminence above the beasts: for all is vanity.
Rotherham

Ecclesiastes 3:19
19For as regardeth the destiny of the sons of men and the destiny of beasts one fate have they, as dieth the one so dieth the other, and one spirit have they all,—and the pre-eminence of man over beast is nothing, for all were vanity:

Note again, man is created in the Image of God. When Christ died, his spirit lived on. He went to preach the gosple to other spirits.

haddeylium:
I said, do your research. You said; you don't speak Hebrew. There are bible aids on the internet that can help with this.
The Hebrew word pneuma was translated to Spirit in English means Breath/blow of breath.
Bible translators use either breath or spirit based on their discretion.

Byington
Ecclesiastes 3:19
1 as this one dies, so does that one, and everything has one spirit, and man has no superiority over cattle because everything is nonsense.

American Standard Version
Ecclesiastes 3:19
19For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; and man hath no preeminence above the beasts: for all is vanity.
Rotherham

Ecclesiastes 3:19
19For as regardeth the destiny of the sons of men and the destiny of beasts one fate have they, as dieth the one so dieth the other, and one spirit have they all,—and the pre-eminence of man over beast is nothing, for all were vanity:

I have had so much Hebrew argument and it's not necessary especially since neither of us is Hebrew. Many times, academic scholars don't agree when it comes to ancient Hebrew.
If all scholars agreed on ancient Hebrew, we would have just one bible translation. But unfortunately, they don't so I am uncomfortable having Hebrew arguments since I know very little about it and the scholars don't agree.

haddeylium:
Like the borean, do your research.

On the way down the mountain Jesus said it was a vision, and later he said no man had ascended to heaven. I'm sure you know what a vision is right?

Moses is still in the memorial tombs awaiting a resurrection. . Jesus taught his Disciples that the dead would rise in the last days. (John 11:21)

The Moses in that vision is not the person Moses. Moses in this vision represents the Law and Elijah represented the Prophets in the vision. The Law and the Prophets pointed to the Christ.



You need deligent and extensive study of God's word.
Here, Peter is writing these words to a very much alive Christian audience in the first century and his subject is about those who are spiritually dead from God’s standpoint. There is absolutely nothing in this scripture or any other that says the dead that Peter refers to as being preached to were the immortal spirits of already physically dead persons. No!

you can compare here to a parallel account of
But the one who gives herself to sensual gratification is dead though she is living. - 1 Timothy 5:6 (NWT)

Furthermore, God made you alive, though you were dead in your trespasses and sins,… - Ephesians 2:1 (NWT)

Peter is making statement about spiritually dead living people.

A vision is not a representation of falsehood. And you are right Moses was not resurrected by then Yet the apostles saw him minister to Jesus.
1 Timothy 5:6 and Ephesians 2:1 talk about spiritual death. But if you began you reading of 1 peter from chapter 3, You would learn that It was talking about physical death.
1 Peter 3.18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

1 peter 4.5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.

6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
It's clear from verse 5 that Peter was talking of the physically dead. In chapter 3 Christ went to preach repentance to those who died from the flood.
Let's read some more scripture that teaches us about the dead.
John 5.25Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
John 5. 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Note verse 25 says those that hear shall live but verse 28 throws more light. It says "all that are in the graves shall hear his voice"

haddeylium:
What ring on many people's mind when the they hear the word 'Spirit' is what the movies produce as a conscious being teleporting everywhere.
What the bible teaches as the SPIRIT in humans is completely different from that.
The English word Spirit is etymology of the Hebrew word pneuma(Gr Naphesh) which means simply a Breath or a blow of breath

Someone stated this earlier;
When Adam was created, God formed man’s body. For that newly created body to live and continue alive, he needed spirit (Breath of life) which will serves as a life-fore or a spark of life for the body to live. Genesis 2:7

What happens to this breath of life/spirit after death?
God's word saidBoth humans and animals “have but one spirit.” (Ecclesiastes 3:19). It's the same thing that happens to both the human and animal's spirit. Also, like when the invisible electricity (Spirit) that powers our appliances(body) goes off.
It's only God that can return this spark of life like the energy company.

again, Ecclesiastes 3.19 Surely the fate of human beings is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath[a]; humans have no advantage over animals. Everything is meaningless.

This does not compare our spirit to animals,

haddeylium:
What ring on many people's mind when the they hear the word 'Spirit' is what the movies produce as a conscious being teleporting everywhere.
What the bible teaches as the SPIRIT in humans is completely different from that.
The English word Spirit is etymology of the Hebrew word pneuma(Gr Naphesh) which means simply a Breath or a blow of breath

Someone stated this earlier;
When Adam was created, God formed man’s body. For that newly created body to live and continue alive, he needed spirit (Breath of life) which will serves as a life-fore or a spark of life for the body to live. Genesis 2:7

What happens to this breath of life/spirit after death?
God's word saidBoth humans and animals “have but one spirit.” (Ecclesiastes 3:19). It's the same thing that happens to both the human and animal's spirit. Also, like when the invisible electricity (Spirit) that powers our appliances(body) goes off.
It's only God that can return this spark of life like the energy company.

First, let's not start with Hebrew unless it's your field.
Secondly how come Moses visited Jesus Christ on the Mount of transfiguration.
Thirdly how come the gospel is taught to the dead 1peter 4.6
Let's get something clear, it's the body that dies not the spirit.

James 2:26
26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

laudate:
The airstrip can always be used by small cargo planes, to carry goods and different products, instead of letting trucks go by road and the truck drivers end up being kidnapped by killer herdsmen.

Just to add to my ealier comments, to transport 30 tons of goods from lags to onitsha by truck, would cost about 300k to do the same by plane would cost 2 to 3 million. As a business man which would you go for? Cargo aircraft is used for super expensive or time sensitive products or packages. There is a reason why most international cargo is done by ship and only a slim percentage is carried out by planes.

HeyCorleone:
You’re the one who said since prostitutes smoke, women should who smoke should be viewed with the same lens. Is that not a stupid thing to say?

Oys madam continue dey smoke and teach your kids to smoke. See the kind of thing you are fighting about.

laudate:
The airstrip can always be used by small cargo planes, to carry goods and different products, instead of letting trucks go by road and the truck drivers end up being kidnapped by killer herdsmen.

On paper that sounds great but it is not practical even for rich countries to replace trucks with cargo planes. It's more than 10x the cost. That's why there is no business for it

HeyCorleone:
This is literally the same argument the Nigerian police uses to harass, extort, maim, and kill innocent Nigerian youths.

“Fraudsters use iPhones. You use iPhone. So you must be a fraudster.”

“Fraudsters and robbers cut this type of hairstyle. So you must be a fraudster”.

Can you see how foolish you sound?

You are the foolish one here. You made no point. What does smoking have to do with police. You are all over the place.

Most of Our current airports have very low patronage how do we expect airstrips to handle serious business. This is another waste which we are very good at

Viraltrends123:
You just want to talk, so that you feel like someone that have sense. You are only deceiving yourself. 100 passengers a week koor

Now you have spoken like the true son of your father. The local airport in kastina has less than 100 weekly passengers. MKD has less than a hundred. Even a big city like Ibadan has less than 100 daily passengers.
I know you never knew this, thank me for the education.

ANSMEDIA:
Senate proposes eight airstrips’ rehabilitation in 2022



https://punchng.com/senate-proposes-eight-airstrips-rehabilitation-in-2022/?amp

This government knows how to waste money. Some of our major airports don't have 100 passengers a week now the want to renovate nonsense. How many airlines would be taking off from Bida airstrip.
We know how to useless money in this country

Bobmarie:
Lmao! Please go and tell the female CEOs, Tech Millionaires, female workers hanging around their workplaces smoking on a smoke break every afternoon in America that they are low value from your couch in Egbeda, some can use their money to colonize your village. Local man.

Only black men see a woman smoking and consider her low value. not in sane nations, where evolved human beings reside. If I asked you why? You cannot give me any reasonable explanation like a logical human being.
You have no explanation as to to how she is low value, no real reason because you have no brain to reason. That’s why your societies are the worst in the world . Who gives a Bleep about what the poorest, dumbest men in the world think? You’re literally at the bottom of the food chain. You don’t even know how your country works, when serious world issues arise. You won’t be found, when it comes to policing women on what they can or cannot do NIGERIAN MEN WILL JUMP UP. White men feed you and solve world problem while you sling your dick around in Africa pretending to be a man.
No reason, 1 you cannot give, Just the innate selfishness of a black man who cannot live his life and let others live.

Your gender dies usually first while while mine inherit all you worked for, who is real loser here? Mumu

Almost everything you said is true but then you forget that in Nigeria, most of the women we see smoking are prostitutes on the streets.
Maybe is we begin to see more female CEOs or professors or bussiness owners smoking we might begin to encourage our women to smoke but for now, we don't want them taking after the prostitutes.

Datboredberry:
I'm as very light smoker- at most, three to four cigarettes a week...

I'm very young, and I started smoking two years ago...

In our society, if a woman is known to be a smoker... She's looked down on... And false assumptions are made of her personality...

Why the stigmatisation? I know men are victims too but women who smoke are viewed as classless etc... While with men, it's simply a bad habit...

What's your opinion on women who smoke? And what's your reason?

I would appreciate comments based on experiences rather than bias...

And I need valid points how SMOKING directly indicates a wayward woman...

Thanks!

First, no one would arrest a woman for smoking. You have your rights to do anyhow. But you also shouldn't question people whow want their women to be healthy and clean.
So because we care so much about our women's health you are feeling offended.
I don't get it, is it every bad thing men do that you also want to be doing?

MaxInDHouse:
Good to know that you laughed it off at last because many instead of hearing it and taking it as one of those beliefs of other religions take it upon themselves to start hunting us for sharing our beliefs.
It's not by force, you present what you believe and walk away if your audience say "NO" there is no wahala!

I can never hurt someone because of his beliefs. If God wants us all to believe the say thing he would do it at the press of a button.

KiNg0G:
I think it's too late for Peter and Paul (psquare)
They were the deal after the era of 2face, but greed got a hold of them... Just too bad.

The duo who sang various hits songs that gained international recognitions would have put their name in the hall of fame, by winning grammies ( yes, they had it coming) but they let their emotions ruin it all.

Who don't know psqauare?
Rnb, pop, hiphop abi na party jam?
Quality videos and dance choreography.

However their break up paved the way open for a lot of upcoming artist, maybe we won't have been hearing the name fireboy today or omah lay or rema.

just maybe wizkid might not have won his first Grammy award.(not when the duos are still there at the top)

Just maybe burna boy might still have been underated, because the bigs shots psquare are there holding the number one spot

Hearing the news of their reunion gave us joy, but still we all know the game have changed.
Their era is somehow long passed!

Am afraid to say, Peter and Paul held their career down with their own hands and I see nothing much left for them in the present nigeria music industry filled with youngsters with different beats, voice and styles.

Making comebacks it's not easy, especially when it's this long, if not ask 2face and Duncan mighty how e dey be .

Psquare songs are good, no doubts but Times have changed.

We are talking about two "married men" with wife's and kids competing with this Young folks out here afresh, it won't be easy.

just an opinion

If they sing a sweet song would you stop people from dancing

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for your time!

lol

MaxInDHouse:
It's OK my friend, i wish you find a group of people practicing what you believe is pure worship.
I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses as your friend has told you and we hold onto the teaching that the dead have nothing to do with the living.
Jesus spoke in parables that's why most of the things he was saying was misunderstood even by many of his disciples so that majority of them stopped following him! John 6:61-66
He is the one who revealed the Bible book of Revelation to John not literally but in symbolic terms {Revelations 1:1} so if you want to know the group of people that got Jesus' words correctly just look for a group of worshipers who have the same line of thought globally {John 17:20-23} preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all their neighbourhood {Matthew 28:19-20} are known as a group in whose gathering there is Love {John 13:34-35} then in every tribe and nation of the earth they will be hated because they won't participate in politics! John 15:19

That's the FRUIT Jesus talked about @ Matthew 7:16-18

Thanks for your time, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

I prefer a group that would teach the scripture and not personal doctrine. Not a group that teaches that angels come around to sleep with girls and other funny non bible based teaches.
when you speak about groups that preac, Do you preach more than the Catholic that converted Billions. That's the thing with most of you churches, you pick out a verse and hold on to it living the rest of the bible. Look Christianity is not about political opinion. The bible teaches about the judgment day. It never says that anyone would go to hell for joining pdp.

MaxInDHouse:
It's OK my friend, i wish you find a group of people practicing what you believe is pure worship.
I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses as your friend has told you and we hold onto the teaching that the dead have nothing to do with the living.
Jesus spoke in parables that's why most of the things he was saying was misunderstood even by many of his disciples so that majority of them stopped following him! John 6:61-66
He is the one who revealed the Bible book of Revelation to John not literally but in symbolic terms {Revelations 1:1} so if you want to know the group of people that got Jesus' words correctly just look for a group of worshipers who have the same line of thought globally {John 17:20-23} preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all their neighbourhood {Matthew 28:19-20} are known as a group in whose gathering there is Love {John 13:34-35} then in every tribe and nation of the earth they will be hated because they won't participate in politics! John 15:19

That's the FRUIT Jesus talked about @ Matthew 7:16-18

Thanks for your time, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

I only represent the truth. You are obviously representing your organization. But the truth goes beyond that. I notice that you accept a few parts of the bible that you can explain and reject the parts that you don't understand. I have given you scripture upon scripture that clearly teach all men would be resurrected but you keep quoting a few verses from genesis and psalms that don't even say otherwise

MaxInDHouse:
After God declared that humans should continue to multiply and fill the earth {Genesis 1:28} then what do you think is the point of emphasis when the Bible said:

Sons of God chose daughters of men and began taking them as wives? Genesis 6:1-2

Well the sons of God according to the Bible are not natural humans but spirit creatures {Job 38:7} they are the ones who assemble before God in the spirit realms when Satan (a rebellious angel) proceeded to come into their midst! Job 1:6

It was the unnatural sexual reproduction that led to the birth of unnatural babies who kept growing bigger and bigger until they became giants and they were wicked {Genesis 6:4} it was this giants that were causing havoc up and down making life unbearable for normal humans and their attitude led many into bad behaviors back then.
That's why God declared that he will wipe them out with all other people that joined in doing what is bad. Noah was chosen because he was different {Genesis 6:9} that's why God revealed to him what He is about to do.

After the global deluge only Noah and his family survived but during the flood all the angels with materialized human bodies dropped their bodies and returned to heaven but God did not allow them back into the fold of his loyal spirit sons, they returned to the earth and became demons or fallen angels. They're the ones behind Spiritism throughout the world till today!

All these are sacred secrets my friend. They still have sex with humans today but they only do so to promote the lie their leader told in the beginning. How? They put on materialised bodies of dead people then go to somewhere far and start sleeping with a woman until someone who recognizes the body they're putting on notice them, then they disappears.
Their motive is to promote the idea that the dead are still living somewhere!

This is so funny but let's take it point by point. First, who are the Sons of God? Job 38:7 never stated that they are angels. You are right in saying that they are spirits just like you and I have spirits. Hence men are sons of God Romans 8:12-25. Our spirits are begotten of God. So when you say spiritual creatures, you are right.
But when you claim that angels come around to sleep with women, you open the gates to lots of falsehood.
1. You assume that angels are men with sexual needs, sexual parts, and hormones, and they get women pregnant.
2. What stops more angels from coming around from time to for more sex?
3. If Christ needed to preach to evil angels, why do you think evil men should not have a second chance.
4. If some angels love women it means there are also homosexual angels who sleep with men or their fellow angels making heaven a serious joke.

MaxInDHouse:
When a real Christian is talking we speak with authority because we will not leave you without clarification on what the scriptures is saying. Matthew 7:28-29

Since you've agreed that we're all sinners through one man (Adam){Romans 5:12} so it means death will continue to rule in the midst of mankind as king {Romans 5:17} then this clearly shows that we will all be buried (temporarily) until the day of resurrection.
But as for the people that chose to be wicked (deliberately) this simply means they have no regards for God or conscience, therefore God will not raise them back to life during resurrection.
Remember the Bible says Christ will rule for 1,000 years.
Well this means all what Jesus taught will be our guide throughout the earth for 1,000 years , during that time Satan and his demons will be locked up in a state of inactivity where they will not be able to deceive or distract anyone from pure worship! Revelations 20:1-3
So that is what the Bible refer to as the judgment day, it's a period of 1,000 years {2Peter 3:8} in every corner of the earth people will be discussing about what Jesus taught and how to apply it in our lives. Of course some humans will ignore and start their activities all over again, pursuing fleshly desires but because there is no sickness or anybody forcing anyone to obey the global rule such disobedient ones will die after a hundred years of their survival! Isaiah 65:20

So if it's after Christ's 1,000 year reign and destruction of Satan that everlasting life will be declared upon the survivors, then for what purpose do you think people who deliberately chose to be wicked in their past life should be resurrected?

My friend, we are not talking about quoting and arguing blindly but substantiating with reference to hidden secrets in God's word.

But if you're still doubting whether the wicked people who deliberately chose to practice evil will be resurrected, please we don't need to continue arguing fruitlessly. Each person is entitled to his own opinion.

Thanks for your time, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Before you go, I would give you some scripture to clear your doubts

Luke 13.28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

Revelations 20 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Can it be clearer than this, all would be resurrected to face a judgment. And the wicked would be cast into the fire.

Revelations 6.9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

This reveals what happens to the righteous when they die. They rest in the Lord.

MaxInDHouse:
The contradictions:

But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die. Genesis 2:17


Now the serpent was the most cautious of all the wild animals of the field that Jehovah God had made. So it said to the woman: “Did God really say that you must not eat from every tree of the garden?” At this the woman said to the serpent: "We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden. But God has said about the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden: ‘You must not eat from it, no, you must not touch it; otherwise you will die.’”
At this the serpent said to the woman: “You certainly will not die" Genesis 3:1-4

Note what Satan said: if they disobey God they will not die!

Whereas life is meant for the obedient while death is meant for the rebellious.
So if we now conclude that both the obedient and rebellious will continue to exist then whose utterance are we echoing, God's or Satan's?

As for Peter he was talking about rebellious angels who were disobedient to God by living their respective positions to come and have sex with female humans {Genesis 6:1-2} these are spirit beings who were disengaged so that they no longer know anything about God's plan, that's why the Bible says they are in dense darkness! Jude 1:6 compare to 1Peter 3:19-20; 2Peter 2:4

The literally dead people are conscious of nothing at all! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

Sorry, You said angels came to have sex with humans? Genesis 6.1-2 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born unto them,

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair, and they took them wives of all which they chose.
I really don't know what bible you are reading.
It says the sons of God not angels. Please you need to tell me if you have a different bible from the rest of us. The bible said sons of God, are you not a son of God?
The Bible never taught that angels come around to have sex with women. Are angels driven with male hormones and organs? And if so, why have angels stopped sleeping with women? Or were they castrated after the flood? I keep saying this let's not add personal narations to bible truths

MaxInDHouse:
That's where the understanding is!

The unjust are people who don't know God's standard but lived by what their conscience tolerate. For instance people do commit adultery and fornication in times past but don't know about the God of Israel who abhors such things. People do worship idols in times past but don't know it's wrong yet they lived by conscience. So from God's standpoint they are unrighteous but since they allow their conscience to guide them then God will give them a second chance to know Him.
The righteous are people who knew God's standard and lived by it like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses and many others that's why Paul listed their names for us to know those God declared righteous not because they knew Jesus Christ but due to their loyalty towards God's standard that they knew during their lifetime! Hebrews 11:4-32

As for all those destroyed by God Himself they passed directly to everlasting death!

So only the good are awaiting resurrection in God's memory no evildoer will be remembered. I keep quoting this verse but it's like you just chose to ignore it:

The wicked will retreat toward the Grave, All the nations who forget God. NWT

The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. KJV

The wicked go down to the realm of the dead, all the nations that forget God. NIV

Psalms 9:17

Can you explain what God's word is saying here? We all know that all sinners will die due to Adamic sin {Romans 5:12} and ever since everyone both good and evil are dying, and they are still in their graves until now.
So what is the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of this particular verse?

To answer your last question, the bible says all have sin. If you say you have no sin, you are a lier.
Then to your first comment, you are clearly adding your personal teachings and doctrines to the bible. It's clear that you have other beliefs outside of the teachings of Christ in the bible. I have no problem with that but you need to state your source