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Kobojunkie:
1.Jesus Christ said He will build His Church.

2. John 15 vs 1 -11. I don't believe Jesus Christ intended, in anyway, for His Church to be monitored and managed by the will of men to begin with.

3. The New Covenant Law which He Jesus Christ spent years teaching them. They were sent to go teach it only to those in the world...the unsaved.

I agree, he did not want a church ruled by the will of men but by his Holy Spirit. How do we know that church?
Also, he gave those he called the power to baptize and confer the Holy Ghost. How can we tell one that has the power to baptize and confer the Holy Ghost?

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ said upon "this rock", how did we come to the conclusion that Peter is in fact "the rock"?

Is this to say that Christ is not "the rock" on which His Church is built?

The Church can't be built on both Peter and Jesus Christ, can it?

But then he built a church. What happened to his church? He left his followers with the instruction to go into all the world and preach the gospel. What gospel were they supposed to preach?

MaxInDHouse:
So if God's only begotten Son failed to establish a group that will bear witness to his teachings {Act 1:8} how do you prove that he is truly the Son of God? Definitely you're indirectly denying the potency of God and His Son Jesus Christ! 1John 2:22

The only reason why a person is revered as "God" is the ability to organize worshipers in an orderly manner, so if you're saying the true God has failed to organize His worshipers then it simply means you don't BELIEVE (TRUST) in the potency of the one who promised to organize His worshipers during the time when other gods are thriving throughout the earth! Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to Micah 4:5

Well most of you just utter statements but don't know the implication of what you're saying!

How did Jesus set up his Church? Was it before or after his death?

AntiChristian:
Kobojunkie says none is correct!

MaxInDHouse say na Jehovah Witness.

Hence my question.. how can anyone tell? What are the signs of Christ''s church?

Kobojunkie:
Through Peter? The same instructions He gave to Peter, He gave to all of His followers so why do you assume Jesus Christ built a church through Peter?

Matt 16.18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

AntiChristian:
One thing i know is that the Church isn't one.

Even Christ is not one as some Christians call him God, some just son of God and some even call him an advanced Angel.

[Jesus said,] I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one. . . . I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one—I in them and you in me— so that they may be brought to complete unity.
(John 17:20–23)

Paul appealed:
I appeal to you . . . that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought. (1 Corinthians 1:10)

But we have several thousands denomination and more are coming up daily!

Each Church would claim his is the correct one!

How do we know the correct one

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ never instructed His followers to attend the churches in this world

2. Jesus Christ never asked His followers to build for Him churches in this here world

3. Jesus Christ said those who love Him are those who do as He asked then to.

I thought he built a church through Peter

MaxInDHouse:
And I say also, unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Matthew 16:18

YES! Jesus established a church but said Satan will later devastate it with his agents {Matthew 13:25} but Jesus promised to return when all the religions have gone off course to reorganize his group {Luke 18:8} after the second century that all Jesus' close confidants are dead (sleeping in death according to Jesus' parable) Satan initiated a false religion claiming they're Christians and that's what most people know today. But because they're not connected to Christ or God's Holy Spirit they can't bear the FRUIT expected of true Christians. Matthew 7:16-18
So when Jesus returned in the year 1914 he began searching throughout all the religions in the world but all of them were arrogant, none was willing to accommodate the spirit of God. That's why Jesus chose a group of men known back then as International Bible Students Association and began correcting them as they were willing to make amendments in their errors. All other religions were laughing at this group for their continuous amendments now and then, nobody knew that it's Jesus who is correcting them.
Today this group has gone throughout the world and they have formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers just as Jesus fervently prayed for! John 17:20-23

Well they're known globally today as Jehovah's Witnesses. Everyone even those antagonizing them can testify that there is LOVE in this group as they're ever ready to settle all their disparities amicably without resorting to force or weapons {John 13:34-35} but there is no country on this planet where this group is not vilified! Matthew 10:22; 24:12; John 15:19; 17:14-16

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

I love your story.. You mean up till 1914, one church was teaching the Gospel of Christ?
You seem to be saying that one sign of the true church is that it should be in every country?

Kobojunkie:
Absolutely none of them!

Jesus Christ's Church is built by Him. All those in this world are built and manned by men- they are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God.

So you are suggesting that we all stay in our homes. No need for church? How can you tell that no single church on earth represent's Christ

If Jesus Christ set up a Church, what name was it called?

Did Christ even set up a church or was it men that decided to set up churches after Christ?

rastaLivity:
Certainly not Christ embassy

What are the signs of the Lord's church?

Kobojunkie:
No church/group/cult buiit and manned by men are of God.

So the answer is none?

Mide1data:
HOLY SHIT

DLBC, RCCG, CPEC. I know these ones are still holy, just that you don't just go to any district.

WHAT DA BLEEP IS HAPPENNING

The question is, what would someone look out for in deciding which one is true

MaxInDHouse:
Anyone having an idea regarding this question?

tctrills take note!

Maybe no one knows

MaxInDHouse:
Are you asking me the highlighted?

I can see that you're trying not to hurt anyone's feelings while discussing about pure worship, but i'll like you to consider the utterances of the man who founded the group later known as Christians in the first century.
His name is Jesus, he was raised in a village called Nazareth that's why people knew him back then as "Jesus of Nazareth"

Regarding pure worship he said:

Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword. For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his soul will lose it, and whoever loses his soul for my sake will find it. Matthew 10:34-39

The above are the words spoken by Jesus of Nazareth after the commissioning of preaching and teaching about pure worship.

Due to the fact that many are arrogant they will not like to be corrected yet they'll like to tell others what to do. Then if you ask them "where are the people practicing what you're saying?" each of the arrogant ones will be provoked, why? Because there's no organized people practicing what they're trying to teach so each will continue to claim he/she is right yet they can't present any group of people practicing what they're saying.
But humble people will preach and teach what is practical and also direct honest hearted individuals to the group practicing what they're saying. So it's after seeing with their own eyes what is fine WORKS that they yield to the teaching. Whereas arrogant people will never allow anyone to teach them yet they'll like to teach others what is not applicable anywhere.

Therefore Jesus called the arrogant religionists "children of Satan" {John 8:44} because Satan is the initiator of selfish reasonings that's not applicable anywhere yet he wants to impose it on others, that's why he ended up becoming a killer, just as Cain killed Abel and the arrogant religionists of the first century Jewish community killed Jesus. So arrogant religionists will start hunting practicers of pure worship out of envy. But should the practicers of pure worship surrender? NO! They mustn't rather they should continue with their fine WORKS! Matthew 5:11-16

I understand what Jesus said. But this is social media and it's important to be respectful. We don't do online to tear down others' beliefs.

DannyG8:
My nairalanders people
Is it okay to maintain friendship after breaking up a relationship?
The lady I was dating broke up with me and still wants me to be close to her as always but it's eating me up and I don't know how to handle the situation.

Most of the time, when a guy and a lady are friends, it favors the lady more. It can be quite an uncomfortable situation for guys especially if you find her attractive.
So don't be friends with a girl who you find attractive. Ask her out, if she refuses, keep your distance and stop punishing yourself.

1 Timothy 2:9

9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

Paul seemed to be against the use of flashy things and he called for modesty. The question is what do we classify as modest dressing?

I am not aiming to incite a religious conflict or get people to denounce or criticize a specific religious group. For the purpose of illuminating the essential characteristics of the Church of God, we must go to God's word for guidance. Keep in mind that the Bible says that by their fruits ye shall know them. What characteristics can you look for in a group that claims to be a genuine expression of Christianity?

MaxInDHouse:
All what i am waiting for is tctrills thread that will treat the topic:

Which of all the Churches is practicing what Jesus taught today?

I promised him that only Jehovah's Witnesses will respond {Isaiah 54:17} while all others will remain silent! Psalms 115:4-8

I am not trying to cause a religious war or to make people call out or criticize any group. The aim is to make the word of God direct us in pointing out the core characters of the Church of God today. Remember, the scriptures say by their fruits ye shall know them. What fruits can the true Christian group be identified by?

Newsmic:
Former Nigerian Aviation minister, Femi Fani-Kayode has stated that he was not arrested by the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) after he was reportedly arrested again by the commission, on Tuesday 30th November, IgbereTV reports.

Fani-Kayode was reportedly arrested by the anti-graft agency on November 23, 2021 for alleged forgetting and manipulation of documents. He swiftly denied being arrested by the commission, stating that he was merely invited by the commission.

On November 30, he was reportedly arrested again by the commission. Reacting to the latest report of his re-arrest by the commission, Fani-Kayode stated that he wasn't arrested but was invited again to the commission.

Taking to his Instagram handle, he wrote;


https://www.instagram.com/p/CW6a0nzhpeN/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Because EFCC is celebrating birthday and they invited you to cut cake

MaxInDHouse:
No i'm just telling you what Jesus said about his group!

I already know this. But first, you need to be his group

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus has prepared our minds for the worst:

 “Happy are you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake. Rejoice and be overjoyed, since your reward is great in the heavens, for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to you. Matthew 5:11-12

But when we find our lost brothers in any part of the earth we will make up one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally {Isaiah 2:2-4} everyone throughout the world will say about us "they love their members" {John 13:34-35} but there's no race where we will be celebrated! Matthew 10:22; Luke21:17; John 15:21

So don't bother we are OK with our own brothers that Jesus promised us we will have globally:

We will loose everything else in the world due to our love for Jesus.

Then Peter said in reply: “Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?” Matthew 19:27

But Jesus promised us that we will have something in return that we love to have:

Jesus said: “Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life Mark 10:29-30

So you don't have to wish because i already have what Jesus promised me: the Organization of God's people known as Jehovah's Witnesses globally!

I think I agree with everything you just said completely but if you think I have persecuted you in any way or form, then you don't know the meaning of persecution. I only discussed with you even though we disagreed big time. Disagreement is not persecution so shun that victim mentality.

HeWrites:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW3NT9fopoM/?utm_medium=copy_link

Later she work claim born again. This is the girl we felt pity for when her man dumped her.
Gold would keep dumping her.

MaxInDHouse:
We are spiritual warriors fighting Satan and his demons, there's no question anyone raised that we will not answer you as long as it has to do with what is written in our book (Bible)
It's when you're not satisfied with our response that we'll implore you to get your answer elsewhere but we will never accept that we are wrong unless you can present a better performing group than we are.
No retreat no surrender!

I just laugh. No retreat no surrender.. funny you.

MaxInDHouse:
Hilarious!
You yourself said all other religions are saying the same thing as we do. Yet how many of them have you been questioning regarding their beliefs or what exactly they believe that you said they're also claiming the same thing as we do?

You are the only one that brought up your faith on this thread. I respect does that choose not to make the discussion about a particular group. But when you bring up your faith and act as representative you would be asked questions and your organization would be judged according to your performance

MaxInDHouse:
I thought we've both said goodbye to each other before you came back asking questions.
If you're sure that there is nothing about me and my posts then why bother asking further questions?

My friend it's not about we convincing you but finding our own people who are lost in false religions {Matthew 10:6} whenever we find any of our own we only speak the language of the shepherd and once they hears our language they'll rejoice! John 10:16 compare to Zephaniah 3:9

And about finding your lost people. I am sure you would find lots of people who would believe that angels sleep with girls especially in Africa. It's really close to traditional African beliefs so you won't have a hard time convincing many abut it. All in all, I wish you luck

MaxInDHouse:
I thought we've both said goodbye to each other before you came back asking questions.
If you're sure that there is nothing about me and my posts then why bother asking further questions?

My friend it's not about we convincing you but finding our own people who are lost in false religions {Matthew 10:6} whenever we find any of our own we only speak the language of the shepherd and once they hears our language they'll rejoice! John 10:16 compare to Zephaniah 3:9

If you are not comfortable with any question I ask, you don't need to answer. Answer only questions you are comfortable with.
It's not like I am your teacher marking your script

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is your PERSONAL opinion just as many of your fellow antagonists will say against God's ORGANIZED people, but honest hearted and sincere individuals will keep on asking:
"where is the group of people practicing what Jesus taught and how can we IDENTIFY this group?"
That's all i needed and after getting what i needed i was satisfied that i've found Jesus' group JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

I never antagonized your religion. But you keep on looking down on others. You set your organization as the light but you get sensitive when we question your beliefs.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is your PERSONAL opinion just as many of your fellow antagonists will say against God's ORGANIZED people, but honest hearted and sincere individuals will keep on asking:
"where is the group of people practicing what Jesus taught and how can we IDENTIFY this group?"
That's all i needed and after getting what i needed i was satisfied that i've found Jesus' group JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

I asked you many questions you couldn't answer but you want to be taking serious.
You ask who are does practicing what Jesus taught. Did Jesus teach that angel sleep with girls.
Even when I quoted the words of Christ to you about Peter you rejected it so if you truly represent JW, it means you guys teaches are different from what Jesus taught.

MaxInDHouse:
The only evidence Jehovah's Witnesses have is our organization so there's nothing any other JW can say other than what i've told you!

Jehovah said about his people:

“I am the One who declared and saved and made known When there was no foreign god among you. So you are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “and I am God. Isaiah 43:12

If you can't present any group of people practicing pure worship then all your arguments on LETTERS of the scriptures is futile {Titus 3:9} because it's the SPIRIT that's making things WORK out {2Corinthians 3:6} so that everyone can SEE what Jesus said about his true disciples globally! Matthew 5:13-16

If there is anyone on this thread that had given you a chance to prove yourself, I am the one. But you continue to falter and disappoints.
I honestly hope that this isn't a reflection of all JWs.
I sometimes feel you take everyone here for fools. You can't keep quoting verses that don't relate and giving conflicting explanations to every verse.
The worst is claiming that the bible teaches that angels sleep with girls

MaxInDHouse:
The only evidence Jehovah's Witnesses have is our organization so there's nothing any other JW can say other than what i've told you!

Jehovah said about his people:

“I am the One who declared and saved and made known When there was no foreign god among you. So you are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “and I am God. Isaiah 43:12

If you can't present any group of people practicing pure worship then all your arguments on LETTERS of the scriptures is futile {Titus 3:9} because it's the SPIRIT that's making things WORK out {2Corinthians 3:6} so that everyone can SEE what Jesus said about his true disciples globally! Matthew 5:13-16

So far, your organization have failed all test. You claim that the letters kill but that's all you do. Luckily you know you lack the spirit. It's only your bosses that have the spirit. The rest of you have the letters.
Just so you know the spirit of man lived with God even before the foundation of the world.
Ephesians 1.4
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Our relationship with the father is clearly older than the creation of the earth.