Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 6:02pm On Feb 07, 2024 |
AntiChristian: Did Allah mention Bible?
Are Injeel, Zabur and Torah = Bible?
Liar for Christ!
Who translated your Bible to Arabic and sent it to Arabia during the time of our Prophet? And the over 10 Books of Paul too were among?  It is a shame you do not know that the word "Bible" means BOOK! As much as you hate Paul, here is what your religious book say Tafsir Qur'an 5.14 Maududi - Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi - Tafhim al-Qur'an.... On the one side St. Paul, a follower of the Prophet Jesus, put an end to the observance of the law and declared that the only thing needed for salvation was belief in Messiah. On the other side, the Jewish rabbis cut off the followers of Christ by declaring theta to be a misguided sect. But in spite of this separateness, at first the sect bore no distinctive name. The followers of Christ called themselves by different names, such as disciples, brethren, believers, saints etc...... Tafsir Qur'an 36.13-17 Kathir - Ibn Al Kathir(so We reinforced them with a third,) means, `We supported and strengthened them with a third Messenger. ' Ibn Jurayj narrated from Wahb bin Sulayman, from Shu`ayb Al-Jaba'i, "The names of the first two Messengers were Sham`un and Yuhanna, and the name of the third was Bulus (Paul) , and the city was Antioch (Antakiyah).Oh, these above is another Lie from Muslim scholars Abi? |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 5:48pm On Feb 07, 2024 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 5:46pm On Feb 07, 2024 |
AntiChristian: See how your holy Spirit is misfiring again? How does this correlate to what we are saying?
The Qur'an and the hadiths complements each other and they never go against one another! It is your Allah that usually ignorantly misfire both in words, intellect and deeds as displayed throughout the Qur'an!I believe you like this exchange as a pig loves filth! |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 5:08pm On Feb 07, 2024 |
AntiChristian: Are you not defending the Bible of your founding fathers and Rome even with more than lies?  Unfortunately, if the Bible is wrong, Allah is more wrong. Did Allah not attest to the Book between our hands at least during the time of Mohammed? Sorry |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 3:44pm On Feb 07, 2024 |
SIRTee15: How can I have a problem with what the deity u worship calls u? All me and TenQ have been saying is be proud to be a slave to your deity. Don't deny the identity he gave u. Simple. U are the one twisting the word of the Koran claiming abd means servant or worshippers in the Koran.
Congrats tha U finally embrace your true status. I hope u won't twist mouth again.
Now U didn't answer my questions Why did the English translators of the Koran use slave of Allah instead of worshippers of Allah for abd.
If an Arab calls u abd, will U be proud he's worshipping u. Is it a good thing for an Arab to call a black man abd. Dont mind honesttalk21: Sahih al-Bukhari 2925Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar: Allah's Messenger said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews until some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O `Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.'"Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 209 Abu Hurayra reported that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "None of you should say, 'My slave ('abdi)' or 'my slavegirl (amati)' All of you are slaves of Allah and all of your women are slaves of Allah. Rather you should say, 'My boy (ghulami)', my slavegirl (jariyyati)', 'my lad (fatayi)' or 'my girl (fatati).'" Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 400 Abu Hurayra reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Do not hate one another nor contend with one another. Slaves of Allah, be brothers."Sahih al-Bukhari 3445Narrated `Umar: I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave. So, call me the Slave of Allah and His Apostle."There are hundreds of Hadiths where both Mohammed and every Muslim is described as the slave of Allah |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Yul Edochie Is Not Qualified To Be A Pastor by TenQ: 3:43pm On Feb 07, 2024 |
OyinO: You are really uneducated because I know you have never objected, challenged or interrogated your church leadership for using the European image of caucasoid person to represent Jesus in your church banners, flyers and posters. Can you ever use an image of a Negroid human species to represent Jesus and it will be accepted in your church? Then are you not a colonial, spiritual and religious slave of your colonial and imperial masters? You are worthy of uncontrolled laughter after I corrected you that Jesus is not a European!? It is you who have assumed a European Jesus not me, therefore deal with your ignorance! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Yul Edochie Is Not Qualified To Be A Pastor by TenQ: 3:35pm On Feb 07, 2024 |
OyinO: Haaaahahahahaaa!!! Is there a name like Jesus in Jewish language? Why does he not look like Jewish people but looks like a European? And why doesn't he look like you and your ancestors? Therefore, will you agree with me that you're a religious and spiritual slave hiding under the belief system of imperial religions? Only an uneducated person will take images of Jesus to be pictures of Jesus. By your argument, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Mary etc are Europeans because they have "English names"! SMH! |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 3:17pm On Feb 07, 2024 |
SIRTee15: Muslims are funny... All of a sudden hadith is greater than Koran. Why should I go the the hadith to validate what is written in the Koran. Your Koran tells u to do divorce small girls who are even yet to menstruate. Now U telling me to go to the hadith to find those who obeyed The instruction of your Allah in the Koran. So what's your point? That the Koranic verse is a lie or forgery. Or people knew the Koranic verse didn't make sense and ignored it. Or people choose and pick what to believe in the koran. Or U are saying the Koranic verse doesn't make sense.
As u can see even expanse2020 does not agree with the Koranic verse on divorcing kids. He knows it doesn't make sense. That's why he's ready to throw the Koran under the bus because he admits that verse of divorcing little kids is evil, it can't come from God.
Qasim, honesttalk, antiChristian, lukuluku69 just imagine your Muslim friend is telling me to check the hadith to know if what's written in the Koran is true.
Pls carry him to the masjid, pronounce Sharia on him and whip him some good kobokobo.
TenQ our Muslim nairalanders no go kill me with desperate mental gymnastics. Can Muslims achieve anything without lying! Anything just to defend Mohammed and his Deity! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Yul Edochie Is Not Qualified To Be A Pastor by TenQ: 3:16pm On Feb 07, 2024 |
OyinO: What of Frederick Lord Luggard? What of Lord Jesus? Lugard has something to do with Nigeria before independence. He is European but I dont know him. The Lord Jesus is my Lord: He is not a European. He's a Jew: of the Semitic tribe! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Yul Edochie Is Not Qualified To Be A Pastor by TenQ: 3:13pm On Feb 07, 2024 |
OyinO: I'm joyful but I'm angry when you try to shove nonsense down my throat. It's called holy anger. Thanks bro Are you Holy? The God of the Bible you reject is Holy! |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Slip Of Tongue by Allah In The Qur'an : Allah Is NOT the God of Israel! by TenQ(op): 8:32am On Feb 07, 2024 |
Almunjid: After all I've explained to u, u still believe that "Ahad" is "one of" and "Tafsir" is based on consensus of the scholars and not Ahadith?. Ur "knowledgelessness" is beyond redemption. I've already given up on u. Allowing to keep swimming in the pool of ur ignorance would serve u better. 1. I think you are so biased as to see that I didn't even argue one bit about the word Ahad in my post. What I said was You have tried your best to explain the words Ahad and Tafsirs: then you threw in 1 John 5:7-8 to explain away the Trinity and I laugh! I wouldn't want to argue anything on this as it will lead no where. Of course, Waheed is strictly ONE but not Ahad and Ahad could also imply UNITY (but, let's leave this for now) 2. I have to the best of my ability shifted the talk away from Islam toward what you undersd in the Christian faith So my friend, I think your bias has clouded your judgment. I have mainly asked questions about Trinity with respect to the Taoheed! Almunjid: - Imam Al-Khalil Al-Farahidi, one of the 'fathers' of Arabic grammar and the teacher of Imam al-Sibawaih said:
"There are 4 types of men: 1. A man who knows and knows that he knows, he is a scholar so ask him. 2. A man who knows and doesn't know that he knows, he is heedless [of his duty to teach or speak] so bring it to his attention. 3. A man who doesn't know and knows that he doesn't know, he is ignorant so teach him. 4. A man who doesn't know and doesn't know that he doesn't know, he is a fool so stay away from him."
I thought u belong to the 3rd category (an ignorant person who should be taught), I never knew that u are already swimming in the 4th category. Level-headed individuals like us are advised to stay away from people like u. So, I'm walking away!. Goodbye! If you check again: your bias has clouded your judgement. Just as you would not be ignorant if don't to accept Everything I say to you, I think this should be reciprocal. Could it be that you are avoiding my questions? I wish you can respond to these questions :1. According to Allah in the Qur'an, what is Trinity? 2. How do you think Trinity violates the Oneness of God? 3. Is it untrue that in Islam you also have the concept of Trinity (which you deny) but you are roped in the doctrine of Duality? 4. Taoheed is a flawed doctrine unfortunately because you won't ask questions, how can you know? 5. Finally, let's assume that the Christians have missed it and are led astray, what is the Offence of the Jews? 6. Is it untrue that Allah directs of to worship him and the Messiah as God?
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Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 4:49am On Feb 07, 2024 |
honesttalk21: In the name ame of Allah the most beneficient the most merciful, blessings and mercy be on the prophet Muhammad pbuh. I seek refuge from the accursed Satan. I seek refuge from being misled or misleading others. I will make submissions to the questions you have asked I'll hope you find them understandable and satisfactory.
1. It seems Allah craves to be worshiped to assume a sense of importance and greatness.
Allah is no need of worship from anything or anyone. Quite the contrary or opposite is the case. Allah is Al-Ghaniy; the self-sufficient, As-Samad; the eternal refuge. Indeed the created is who or what is the need of Allah. This is done by various acts of worship even if majority of this needs are met by Allah without even asking.
Every sin committed by man damages his faith and creates deep wounds in his heart and soul. Righteous deeds, especially prayers (salah), cleanse man of his sins, and he thus attains the mercy of Allah Almighty. In this way, that servant, who is cleansed of his sins by gaining the consent of his Lord, becomes worthy of the eternal Paradise.
Through worship Allah makes it possible for man to seek his favor and attain his/her numerous desires and goals. A student wanting to excel at an examination would study his books and learning resources; the book does not need the student to read it but the student needs to read to acquire knowledge sufficient to excel at the exam. Mankind is in eternal need of Allah and not the other way around. But according to you Muslims, the purpose why Allah created humans is so that we would worship him! If this is true, Allah NEED our worship! Except if it is false, then you come closer to the Christian understanding! honesttalk21: 2. The problem here is that Allah threatened to wipe off humans if they do not commit sin and replace them with those who would regularly commit and ask for forgiveness from him
The truth is that all human beings are sinners; the best of the sinners are those who repent. Mankind is a creature that has been created with a natural tendency to commit sins and to do good deeds. Committing sins is a property that discriminates man from angels.
Mankind might commit sins and is taught the ways to avoid committing sins. The way of getting rid of the sins and crimes that have been committed and being purified of spiritual impurities through repentance.
Allah calls on the believers who have sinned to repent as follows: “And O ye Believers! Turn ye all together towards Allah that you may succeed.” (Q24/31) In another verse, Allah says to His Prophet: “Say: "O my Servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah: for Allah forgives all sins: for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Q39/53)
The Hadith Riyadh as Saliheen 423 emphasizes the concept of seeking forgiveness from Allah. It highlights the mercy and forgiveness of Allah towards His creation. The Prophet Muhammad pbuh is conveying that the nature of human beings is such that they are prone to committing sins. However, it is through seeking forgiveness and repentance that one can attain the mercy and forgiveness of Allah.
Allah threatened you say but if you re-read you see it states were you not (if) it is an hypothetical question to emphasize the vast capacity of Al-Ghafur, Al-Ghafar, ArRahamanu the ever forgiving and most merciful to repeatedly forgive and make anew. There are a number of problems 1. Is it untrue that, Sin being committed by humans is according to the Destiny of Allah? 2. Let's assume that humans have the weakness of discipline and as such commit sin: this is not the focus of Allah. Allah is saysing thatIf we humans somehow suddenly refuse to commit sin again, he would wipe us out and replace us with people who would commit sin and ask him for forgiveness This was why I asked the questions : 1. Why do you think Allah will erase you from existence if you don't commit sin? 2. Will you be committing sins in Paradise? If you don't, will Allah disown you?
honesttalk21: 3. b]The Message : (Look at the Bronze Serpent [/b]
The issue of the serpent on the snake was a result of the biblical God punishing the Israelites for disrespecting Moses and God. It however now depicts a magical looking unto something for deliverance indeed their faith in an almighty God may have been too weak to be healed by that. Remember though God sent the snakes in the first place. Why couldn't they be unsent and provision of a healing plant/, medicine but a semblance of idolatry was introduced?
Looking in a bronze snake bears little difference to looking/bowing before a statue for needs. Then by God sending the snakes is this not akin to forceful call to submit?
Do let me pause the answers here to continue later in another post. I don't want to risk loosing my reply a subsequent time You may choose to interpret the message however you like, but again 1. There was a problem 2. God prescribes a solution 3. Anyone who follows God's solution is delivered 4. There is no alternative to God's solution : take it or leave it.Can a Muslim choose how to pray to Allah other than as prescribed? Can a Muslim choose NOT to do Wudu or choose NOT to say the Takbir al-Ihram or REFUSE to recite the Al-Fathia or REFUSE to the the Sujud? Will such a prayer amount to anything? Just as you have related the Bronze snake to Idolatory : What if my excuse is that facing the kaaba in prayer is Idolatory? Does it change anything? Do NOT FORGET to ANSWER my questions, perhaps you will answer these questions according to Islam.1. What is Spirit? Note:A spirit is a living being! Eg. i. Jibril is your Holy Spirit (He's an Angel) ii. Jesus is a Spirit from Allah iii. Allah breath his spirit into Adam (Sunan Abi Dawud 4708) 2. Your prophet says that Adam was created in Allah's image, what does he mean? Especially comparing the physical face of a man with that of God and that Adam in His image with His length of sixty cubits (Sahih Muslim 2841) Mishkat al-Masabih 3525 He reported God’s Messenger as saying, “When any of you fights he must avoid the face, for God created Adam in His own image.”3. According to your prophet, he would be the first to be resurected from the grave (Sunan Ibn Majah 4308) and the prophets of old are are still in their graves (Sunan an-Nasa'i 1633). If this is true a. Did Mohammed actually see the prophets such as Moses, Adam, Joseph, Aaron or it wasn't true that he actually saw them. b. If he saw them in reality but their bodies are still in their graves here on earth, are they not DUALITY (As they are both in heaven and earth(grave) at the same time? 4a. Is it true that Allah is above the seven heavens on his throne? b. Is it true that Allah descend and comes down every third part of the night to hear those who will invoke him? Therefore, Can Allah enter his creation? |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Slip Of Tongue by Allah In The Qur'an : Allah Is NOT the God of Israel! by TenQ(op): 4:19am On Feb 07, 2024 |
Almunjid: Lol, like I say, all ur comments reeks of ignorance. If no be ignoramus wey u be, who uses English grammar and Sentence structure of English to judge classical Arabic? What's wrong in English grammar is right in Arabic grammar. The grammar and choice of words of Modern Standard Arabic, and Colloquial or Daily Arabic and its grammar are different from the Quranic or Classical Arabic. In fact, Quranic or Classical Arabic predates "Arabic grammar", so u can't use Arabic grammar to judge or correct Quranic grammar or the choice of words, much less English grammar. I said: The grammatical problem is big: It is obvious from the Qur'an 17:8 verse that if Allah is the "WE", he cannot also be the "YOUR" within the same sentence.It is a fact irrespective of whether it is in classical or modern Arabic or another language. The word YOUR and WE in any language within the same sentence cannot refer to the same person.
I am a human being, presumably infinitely less in articulation, speech and literature than Allah however look at my corrected version and tell me it isn't less confusing. Is it not easier, clearer and better for Allah to say:Qur'an 17:8 It may be that WE your Lord will have mercy on you, but if ye repeat (the crime) We shall repeat (the punishment), and We have appointed hell a dungeon for the disbelievers.Almunjid: Secondly, the text u quote is a rough translation of the word of God, not its true representation or the word of God exactly. So, are u using the rough translation of a Quranic verse in written in English to judge and point out grammar errors of a Book written in old or classical Arabic? Do u know Nahwul Arabiy (Arabic grammar)? Do u know Tafsir (Quran exegesis)?. You forget that Hebrew is a semitic language like Arabic and it doesn't cause problems like you assume the Qur'an will cause when translated. Except Islam is just for the Arabs!Unfortunately, there is no Arab Muslim who will claim to understand the Qur'an without the exegesis and consensus opinion of your scholars! It is obvious from the verse above that if Allah is the "WE", he cannot also be the "YOUR" and within the same sentence: It doesn't matter the language, or dialect or flavour (classical or modern) ! |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Slip Of Tongue by Allah In The Qur'an : Allah Is NOT the God of Israel! by TenQ(op): 4:03am On Feb 07, 2024 |
In good faith I am writing this hoping that we can at least relate as friends intellectually. I Appreciate your time used to pen this! Almunjid: Lol, sorry to say this, but this is the first time I've seen somebody who's knowledgeable yet an ignorant. You're like a child who eat food (learned) but he's still malnourished (ignorant). That's because he eats only carbohydrates rich foods (learned from questionable sources), zero protein, vitamins and minerals (not from legit source). U have knowledge, no doubt but u lack "comprehension" and "application". U don't understand what u "know" and u can't apply it in an appropriate way, rather u apply it to suite ur selfish interest. It's a pity that u are a pastor preaching what u know but u do not understand what u know and u believe u do. Quran is not a Book u read and deduce ur own meanings out of it to suite ur personal interest. My Observation :I think that it is actually safe to say that few Muslims believe directly the words of Allah but rather, your beliefs is hinged on the consensus of your scholars. The only reason you accuse me if ignorance is because I read the words of Allah according to how he has said it rather than the way you modern Muslims would want everyone to see it. How do you Muslims read and interpret the Bible? Do you just accept what we tell you or what our scripture is perceived by you to say!? Almunjid: I asked u to give me the meaning of "Ahad" according to the leading Arabic dictionaries such as Lisanul-Arab etc and you're giving me the meaning of "Ahad" in a sentence. You're even using the word "Ahad" to prove trinity?. U need deliverance from ignorance. That's why Allah referred to u (the contemporary Christians) in Quran 1:7 as Addoleen (those who have gone astray). U in particular have gone too far astray, and I doubt if u can ever hear the call of a caller. So even if I answer all ur questions, u will never be satisfied. Because the answers to the questions u posed are mostly "close ended". If I gave u other answers contrary to ur expectations u will counter them out of ignorance. So it's better I leave u to keep swimming in the pool of ur ignorance.
Ahad - Meaning Meanwhile, I think it's good I explain (the words) "Ahad" and "Tafsir" to u perhaps u will understand. It won't be good if u take this ignorance to ur grave. "Ahad" means "one" and not "one of". In Arabic, the word "Ahad" and "Wahid" are synonymous, Allah use them interchangeably. Allah says: 1. "And your god is (wahid) one God. There is no deity [worthy of worship] except Him, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful". (Qur'an 2:163) 2. Say, He is Allah, [who is] one (Ahad). (Quran 112:1)
In Suratul Yusuf (Quran 12:4), Joseph was reported to have said to his father: "...Inni ra'aitu Ahad Asharah Qauqaban wash-shamsu..." ...Indeed I dreamt of Ahad Asharah (eleven) stars, and the sun, and the moon—I saw them prostrating to me!” In this verse, eleven is Ahad Asharah. It literally means [one (and) ten]= 11 (eleven).
The word "Ahad" has the same meaning with the word "One" in English, it doesn't mean "one of". But if u add "of" to "one" its no longer one word but a phrase. Similarly, in all the examples u gave, a noun followed the word "Ahad" which modified or changed it to mean "One of". That means that the word "Ahad" itself doesn't mean "One of" except if followed by another noun. E.g Ahadu Asdiqah, Ahadut-tullab etc (one of the friends, one of the students). Aside these examples, the word "Ahad" on it's own literally means "One" just like "Wahid". So, if trinity is true, the Quran and Torah (Quran 112:1) and (Deuteronomy 6:4) Respectively would read: 1. Qul huwallahu "Ahad" ilah. Say, He is Allah, [who is] One (of the Gods) 2. Shema Yisrael, Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai Echad Elah! “Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God, the Lord is one (of the Gods)!
Now, u can see that u have been deceived by the books written by the orientalists and Kafirs trying to justify trinity. The trinity was an interpolation in the New testament. It was as a result of mistake and misinterpretation of the Bible. The origin of this misconception is from 1 John 5:7-8 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one. New King James Version (NKJV). This verse was thrown out of the Bible in some versions. Jehovah's witnesses do not believe in Trinity either, they believe it's a interpolation. While those Christians who believe in Trinity go as far as using other verses to justify it, just as you're trying to prove it using Qur'an and Torah.
Meaning of Tafsir Tafsir on the other hand, is the Quran exegeses. [b]It's the "compilation" of the authentic sayings (Ahadith) of the prophet, similar verses, historical background etc concerning a particular verse of the Quran about its interpretations according to prophet, causes of its revelation, when, where and how it was revealed, in order to understand the real and true context of the verse. [/b]One of the best compilation on Tafsir is Tafsir ibn Kathir. So, it's different from the Thalmud because it's a compilation from existing texts of Sihaus-sita etc. Lol, it's surprising to see u quoting and interpreting the Quran, but u don't even know what "Tafsir" means. U said it was written by others. Do u even know the difference between makkan and madinan surahs (chapters). All ur write-ups reek of ignorance. U have been quoting and giving the Quran ur own interpretations. Regardless of the scripture you misinterprete whether Hindu scripture or Quran, it's wrong to say something of which u know nothing about. U need to seek forgiveness from God for misinterpreting His words. You have tried your best to explain the words Ahad and Tafsirs: then you threw in 1 John 5:7-8 to explain away the Trinity and I laugh! I wouldn't want to argue anything on this as it will lead no where. Of course, Waheed is strictly ONE but not Ahad and Ahad could also imply UNITY (but, let's leave this for now) However, you don't even understand what Trinity is : this is probably the misconception of your prophet in the Qur'an. I wish you can respond to these questions :1. According to Allah in the Qur'an, what is Trinity? 2. How do you think Trinity violates the Oneness of God? Almunjid: The English translations of the Quran u read and give ur own interpretations are mere translations, they do not represent or convey the true meaning of the Qur'an. U need the Knowledge of "Tafsir" to interpret the Qur'an. Most verses of the Qur'an have a corresponding Hadith that explain it in details. Some Muslim Scholars are like u, just because they can speak Arabic, they'll be reading and giving the Qur'an their own personal interpretations leading to different sects and promotion of terrorism.
For instance Allah says in Quran 9:5: ...fight and slay the the unbelievers/Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)." This verse and many others are quoted out of context to instigate fight to kill Christians, Jews and other Non-muslims. In Tafsir, u will see Ahadith about its context, where, when and how it was revealed, the historical background etc. From there, u will understand that it's about a defensive war in a battlefield, it's not asking u to go kill the Christian, Jews etc. Muslims who are good in Arabic would read and apply these types of verses to encourage the killings of Christians and other Non-muslims because of one little misunderstanding, leading to lost of lives and other terrorism. Muslims should be grateful to God that u didn't convert to Islam, because if u had converted, with the way u are quoting and misinterpreting Qur'an (in ur own way), u may be in the same level with Osāma bin Ladēn or Shikau. Ur type no go gree for anybody, if u don't know the corresponding Hadith that explains a particular verse, u will never admit it, u'll rather give ur own interpretations and claim that Allah inspire u to interpret it that way. I'm just wondering the kind of harm you're currently doing to Christianity in the name of interpreting the word of God. Imagine saying that "Echad" in the book of Deuteronomy means "One of". In the midst of the one-eyed people (more ignorant than u), u may be their king (seem learned), but in midst of those with two eyes (more knowledgeable than u) u are blind (ignorant who lacks comprehension and application of the scripture). May the almighty Allah, Alaha and Eloha (Yahweh) guide u to the right path, not the path of those who have earned His anger and not the path of those who have gone astray.
Peace be unto those who follow the guidance! Is it true that the phrase " Peace be unto those who follow the guidance!" mean "Peace only to Muslims!?" Please wish me peace to o!! LOL! The Qur'an is supposed to be the eternal words of Allah suitable for ALL generations of mankind as guidance : Unfortunately, The Qur'an is thoroughly incomplete, this is why it cannot stand alone as the words of Allah? One needs to compare with Hadiths of your prophet (which I think should understand the Qur'an better) and Tafsirs (which usually contain disagreement with other scholars). The Tafsirs to me are " supposed answers to problems created in the Qur'an" which usually is not even a unified concensus. Thus, a Muslim will only take what appeals to them from these exegesis and Reject whatever they don't like. I honestly think that you Muslims lack comprehension either of your Qur'an or of the Bible because 1. You don't ask questions and you just memorise 2. Even when you ask questions, all you care about is the concensus of your scholars rather than the truth 3. You always use Strawman arguments against Christians I wish you help me answer these following questions you skipped before In addition to the first two questions above : 3. Is it untrue that in Islam you also have the concept of Trinity (which you deny) but you are roped in the doctrine of Duality? 4. Taoheed is a flawed doctrine unfortunately because you won't ask questions, how can you know? 5. Finally, let's assume that the Christians have missed it and are led astray, what is the Offence of the Jews? 6. Is it untrue that Allah directs of to worship him and the Messiah as God?
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Politics › Re: Multi-Billion Naira Lithium Processing Plant In Nasarawa State (Photos) by TenQ: 8:23pm On Feb 06, 2024 |
Rostikol: SHUT UP and go and learn about the lithium development policy of the Nigerian govt instead of spilling rank ignorance online.
Most of you only have time to come here and type your negative rubbish borne of ZERO research, since you are too lazy and stupid to learn anything, and swim in negativity and ignorance. Smiles! Howling like a Jackal! See your mouth! |
Politics › Re: Multi-Billion Naira Lithium Processing Plant In Nasarawa State (Photos) by TenQ: 7:38pm On Feb 06, 2024 |
Zafsy75: This Is A Multi Billion Naira Lithium Processing Plant In Nasarawa State, Nigeria .
●The Lithium Processing Plant Has The Capacity Of Processing 3000 Metric Tonnes A Day.
●Plant Expected To Be Inaugurated This Year, It Would Create Jobs And Positively Impact The Economy. And Nigeria as a short sighted country will export the raw Lithium and collect money to be spent in purchasing electric vehicles and solar power batteries instead of producing for export and sale of Lithium Ion and Lithium polymer batteries. |
Health › Re: Man’s Affairs With Five Married Women Ends In Mysterious Skin Disease by TenQ: 3:42pm On Feb 06, 2024 |
APOPTOSIS: May not really be psoriasis because I believe the stuff that was applied on the lesions made them look silvery which is in keeping with psoriasis, although that can't be underplayed in this context.. It is elevated above the skin and looks dry!
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Health › Re: Man’s Affairs With Five Married Women Ends In Mysterious Skin Disease by TenQ: 3:30pm On Feb 06, 2024 |
Zadokzoe: This looks like psoriasis. The plaques are dry , raised and most likely itchy. Micaceous scales as well. I might be wrong though. I think you are correct. Psoriasis it is! |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Slip Of Tongue by Allah In The Qur'an : Allah Is NOT the God of Israel! by TenQ(op): 3:01pm On Feb 06, 2024 |
MightySparrow: Well said my brother. . let me first be reading responses. The grammatical problem is big:It is obvious from the Qur'an 17:8 verse that if Allah is the "WE", he cannot also be the "YOUR" within the same sentence. It is either a mistake! Or a Slip of tongue by Allah! or bad editing by Mohammed!
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Christianity Etc › Re: A Slip Of Tongue by Allah In The Qur'an : Allah Is NOT the God of Israel! by TenQ(op): 2:57pm On Feb 06, 2024 |
Ohyoudidnt: The Plural of Majesty is what @Tenq seems to be asking though he claims it is not.
It is a feature of literary style in Arabic that a person may refer to himself by the pronoun nahnu, ‘We’, for respect or glorification. 2- He may also use the word ana, ‘I’, indicating one person, or the third person huwa, ‘He’. All three styles are used in the Quran, where Allah addresses the Arabs in their own tongue.
Verily, We have given you a manifest victory” [Al-Fath 48:1]
Surah Al-Mulk (67:1) - “Blessed is He in Whose Hand is dominion, and He over all things has power
The Day when the Trumpet will be sounded: that Day, We shall gather the sinful, blear-eyed (with terror). In whispers will they consult each other: ‘You tarried not longer than ten (days).
We know very well what they say, when the best of them in his ways will say, “You did not remain more than one day
It is We/us who have sent down the Remembrance
In the Quran, there are instances where Allah is referred to with the plural of majesty. This form of speech, known as the “royal we” or “majestic plural,” is a linguistic feature used to denote honor, power, and greatness. The problem is not about the plural majesty but the bad grammar or slip of tongue in the text of Allah. It is impossible that within the same verse sentence , if Allah is a WE, he cannot at the same time be a YOURAgain:Qur'an 17:8 It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you, but if ye repeat (the crime) We shall repeat (the punishment), and We have appointed hell a dungeon for the disbelievers.It is obvious from the verse above that if Allah is the "WE", he cannot also be the "YOUR"!Is it not easier, clearer and better for Allah to say:Qur'an 17:8 It may be that WE your Lord will have mercy on you, but if ye repeat (the crime) We shall repeat (the punishment), and We have appointed hell a dungeon for the disbelievers.The above is a Perfect revision by a mortal man isn't it!? But this Qur'an 17:8 is obviously a Slip of Tongue from someone trying very hard to impersonate the God of Israel! |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 1:43pm On Feb 06, 2024*. Modified: 2:00pm On Feb 06, 2024 |
I appreciate your thoughtful insights and questions posed to my post and I will try to do justice to the questions. If I miss any, it is not intentional honesttalk21: If I may work my way from your later questions. If Allah needs my worship of what benefit will it be to Allah. I worship Allah in obedience and veneration. A means to seek his pleasure, show gratitude for so many things done for me many of which I am not aware.
I worship to request my needs of him that he provides and guides me to achieving or acquiring them. In numerous ways these things are even provided without my exactly asking.
What exactly does Allah derive from umy worship? Do tell me. You asked: What does Allah derive from your worship? It seems Allah craves to be worshiped to assume a sense of importance and greatness.
honesttalk21: 2. All things Allah creates worships him one way or the order and to a good extent we can't evaluate this. Some worship in obedience and some worship to be seen to worship without sincerity of faith and action. By your submission is it only slaves that worship Allah? What about the ones that aren't slaves; do they worship? This is where you miss it. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob does not need the worship of anything or anyone to be complete. We His appreciative Creatures worship Him because we realize how majestic, great and benevolent Our God it. This include all Angels and humans who know Him. It is similar to why we greet our Parents: it is not because they need our greetings BUT because we respect and honour them. A slave in the house will greet because he is obligated to do so on the pain of severe punishment. honesttalk21: 3. Allah needs you to commit sin else he will replace you. Sincerely can mankind absolutely not sin? Has man become so perfect that he is incapable of Sin? Are you aware of all your sins? Definitely you know some and some you unknowingly commit. Does your Lord's prayer have the statement forgive us our trespasses? Are the trespasses sins? Conspicuously you mention sin and repent above? What's repentance? Is it being aware of your wrong doing becoming remorseful, regretful, seeking pardon, resolving not to repeat same. Is this something guided by the mind, the spirit? Is the whole process akin to a spiritual rebirth or being born again or is being born again different from this? The problem is not that man is a sinner : The problem here is that Allah threatened to wipe off humans if they do not commit sin and replace them with those who would regularly commit and ask for forgiveness from him. Riyad as-Salihin 423Abu Ayyub Khalid bin Zaid (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, "Were you not to commit sins, Allah would create people who would commit sins and ask for forgiveness and He would forgive them".This Sahih hadith is self explanatory 1. Allah enjoys to have creations who commit sin 2. Allah enjoys the fact that as the commit sin, they come crawling back to him. This is another prove that Allah NEED our worship as he depends on it for a sense of importance. Unlike the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who created us for his pleasure (like you plant flowers round your house for your pleasure). He doesn't NEED anything from us, we are the ones who depend on Him for our existence. Rev 4:11 Worthy art thou, our Lord and our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power: for thou didst create all things, and because of thy will they were, and were created.Sin is any violation of the sovereignty of God and God hates sin. Even children of God Commits sin exactly as your children and your house help violate your command. The reason we Christians ask for forgiveness of our sins is to restore our fellowship back with God even though we don't lose our sonship with him unlike a slave who can be summarily dismissed from his masters service. Why do you think Allah will erase you from existence if you don't commit sin? Will you be committing sins in Paradise? If you don't, will Allah disown you?
honesttalk21: Oh it entails accepting Jesus as your lord and personal saviour to lead. How come with his special leading and your willing following you can still sin or did he lead you to Sin?
How is it that the Born again with a guaranteed paradise still needs to repent of sin to access paradise? Is the guarantee not guaranteed or what sort of guarantee is this of eternity that still requires repenting and reseeking forgiveness. Do help remove my confusion at this obvious contradiction and confusion.
How do you become a new person with an old body or you mean new spirit that isn't physically discernible? Just as you don't remain the child of your parent and welcome home because you are perfect with your parent, such is the nature of our salvation. We live our lives following the rules of God and God may discipline us for errors we commit BUT He doesn't disown us. A new creature does NOT justify his sin but hates it and strives to turn away permanently from them. Heb12:6 For the LORD disciplines those he loves, and he punishes each one he accepts as his child.”Of course the above is the exact opposite of the Qur'an. honesttalk21: Interesting! Moses lifted up the serpent which would not have been lifted otherwise yes? So to the son of man used in reference to who? Jesus? Must be lifted up so whosoever believes in him who was lifted up I believe will not perish? But the one to believe in needed to be lifted up by who or what? The one greater than him? I believe we can agree that Moses is greater than the snake. The Message : (Look at the Bronze Serpent ) What was God's solution to the problem of death from the snakes? Follow it and you will be savedThe Message : (Belive on the Lord Jesus atonement) What was God's solution to the problem of hell? Follow it and you will be savedBelieving in the SOLUTION of God is what saves you sir. honesttalk21: Now to the Spirit.
The Spirit in the Bible and Christianity by my understanding is often referred to as the Holy Spirit or the Spirit of God. In Hebrew the word used for spirit is ruach which means breath, wind, or spirit. In the New Testament, the Greek word used is pneuma which also conveys the idea of breath or wind. So spirit is breath and wind?
The Bible portrays the Spirit as having various roles and functions. It is seen as a source of inspiration and revelation, guiding individuals to understand and interpret God’s will. The Spirit is also depicted as a comforter, advocate, and helper for believers. These characteristics for spirit come to me as intellectual reasoning of the mind. This sure fits with notions of good, bad, evil, wicked, hungry etc. spirits.
The dictionary defines spirit as the non-physical part of a person which is the seat of emotions and character; the soul,and
the prevailing or typical quality, mood, or attitude of a person, group, or period of time
Essentially being non physical; the spirit cannot be seen. It is described in the Bible using metaphors.
One common metaphor used to depict the Spirit is that of water. In John 7:38-39, Jesus refers to the Spirit as rivers of living water, symbolizing its life-giving and purifying nature. In Acts 2:3-4, during Pentecost, it is described how tongues of fire appeared and rested on each believer, symbolizing the empowering and purifying work of the Spirit. I wonder if these fires were real or metaphorical. Then the dove is employed as a metaphor for the Spirit in the Bible in Matthew 3:16, when Jesus was baptized, the Spirit of God descended like a dove upon him. This imagery conveys qualities such as gentleness, peace, and purity associated with the presence of the Spirit.
The story of the dove is an account that made it into all four Gospels, Jesus’ baptism by John is accompanied by John’s testimony that he saw “the Spirit descending as a dove out of heaven, and He remained upon Him” (John 1:32). Unique to Luke’s account is that the Spirit was “in bodily form” (somatikos) but the event seems very visionary as it is doubtful that there was an actual, molecularly constructed theophany with a dove’s body. Clearly the main importance in the event is a sign to John that Jesus was the Messiah whom John was sent to give advance notice about. Did anyother person see the dove?
Doves were stipulated as sacrifices for the poor in Israel. As a context of worship, the continuity of doves in sacrifice and the Spirit-as-a-dove matches what Scripture elsewhere tells that we “worship in Spirit and truth” and “pray in the Spirit” since that is the Spirit’s role to facilitate our ongoing encounter with God. As an approved animal for sacrifices, the whiteness of doves indicates the purity and innocence that befits the Holy Spirit. These our discussions lead me to see that animal sacrifice is more rooted in Christianity.
How different is/are this/ese spirit/s breath that God put into Adam Definitions : God is a Spirit:The Spirit of God (just like Air or Wind) is everywhere but you cannot see Him. You may however feel His power and influence anywhere He chooses. When we say God is Omnipresent. God by His Spirit is Everywhere whether in the physical realms or in the spiritual realm as the Unseen Power overseeing Everything! Angels are Spirits with a Souls :The Spirit of Angels is their means of expression in the spirit realm. It is their Spiritual Identity and is limited in its scope unlike God's Spirit. The Spirit confers ability to live forever. Demons are Spirits with Souls:Just like Angels, the spirit of demons give them their spiritual identity. The Spirit of demons is their means of expression in the spirit realm. Demon spirit is also limited in its scope unlike God's Spirit. The Spirit confers ability to live forever. Animals are Souls with a Body: Their Body gives them a physical expression and identity while their souls give them personal or internal identity expressed in their Will, Emotion and Intellect. When an animal dies, the ceases to exist unlike humans in death. Humans are Spirits with a Soul and Body:The Body of humans give them physical expression and physical identity. The Spirit of humans give them spiritual expression and spiritual identity. The Soul of Humans give them personal or internal identity expressed in their Will, Emotion and Intellect. Human spirit is also limited in its scope unlike God's Spirit. The Spirit confers ability to live forever. Adam was created in God's image because He has been Given his Spirit from God that he might be like God as a spirit. By Man's spirit, he can relate with God in a spiritual sense and also exist forever otherwise, man (Adam) would cease to exist. With this above and your Question:How different is/are this/ese spirit/s breath that God put into Adam God put (part of) His own spirit into Adam so that Adam became an image (a resemblance) of God. Sacrifices with respect to sin in the old testament was for atonement. Atonement is a form of payment for your crime. God's law of sin is that sin MUST be punished or paid for by death. The sacrificial animal became the scapegoat or ransom that God accepted for the sin of His people. (There are other kinds of sacrifices) Just like Riyad as-Salihin 432Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: Messenger of Allah said, "On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will deliver to every Muslim, a Jew or a Christian and say: 'This is your ransom from Hell-fire."'Now that I have answered your questions, perhaps you will answer these questions according to Islam.1. What is Spirit? Note:A spirit is a living being! Eg. i. Jibril is your Holy Spirit (He's an Angel) ii. Jesus is a Spirit from Allah iii. Allah breath his spirit into Adam (Sunan Abi Dawud 4708) 2. Your prophet says that Adam was created in Allah's image, what does he mean? Especially comparing the physical face of a man with that of God and that Adam in His image with His length of sixty cubits (Sahih Muslim 2841) Mishkat al-Masabih 3525 He reported God’s Messenger as saying, “When any of you fights he must avoid the face, for God created Adam in His own image.”3. According to your prophet, he would be the first to be resurected from the grave (Sunan Ibn Majah 4308) and the prophets of old are are still in their graves (Sunan an-Nasa'i 1633). If this is true a. Did Mohammed actually see the prophets such as Moses, Adam, Joseph, Aaron or it wasn't true that he actually saw them. b. If he saw them in reality but their bodies are still in their graves here on earth, are they not DUALITY (As they are both in heaven and earth(grave) at the same time? 4a. Is it true that Allah is above the seven heavens on his throne? b. Is it true that Allah descend and comes down every third part of the night to hear those who will invoke him? Therefore, Can Allah enter his creation? |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 12:59am On Feb 06, 2024 |
honesttalk21: No. In a strict sense.
You should however know that while Abd translates to servant or slave when used as a standalone word. When it is used as a prefix in names, it takes on a different connotation. In this context, “Abd” is combined with one of the names of Allah to form a compound name that signifies servitude or worship to Allah. Muslims and lies! The problem is that they lie so much that they forget thay have told 39 different lies to cover up one. Let me help you out from your prophet Sahih al-Bukhari 3445 Narrated `Umar: I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave. So, call me the Slave of Allah and His Apostle."Jami` at-Tirmidhi 3569Az-Zubair bin `Awwam narrated: that the Prophet (ﷺ) said: “There is not a morning that the slave of Allah reached except that a caller calls out: ‘Glorify the King, the Free of Deficiencies. (Sabbiḥul Malikal-Quddūs)’”Sunan an-Nasa'i 3022 It was narrated from Jabir that the Prophet departed from Arafat and started saying: "Be tranquil, O slaves of Allah!" gesturing with his hand like this - and Ayyub gested with his palm uppermost.Musnad Ahmad 154It was narrated from Umar that the Messenger of Allah said: `Do not praise me as the Christians praised 'Eesa bin Maryam . I am no more than the slave of Allah and His Messenger.`It's your translation and your hadiths! How can Abd as a prefix take a different meaning other than who you are!? A SLAVE"!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Slip Of Tongue by Allah In The Qur'an : Allah Is NOT the God of Israel! by TenQ(op): 9:48pm On Feb 05, 2024 |
Almunjid: It seems u studied all these lies from a book written by An Arab Kafir. I told you that I almost recited the shahada (thanks to Ahmed Deedat) and I got myself a copy of the Glorious Qur'an. It was the Qur'an that stopped me from reciting the shahada and to go deeper in knowledge. So, I am not using any Arab Kafir books. Knowledge is available to anyone who asks questions for he would be filled. Almunjid: I studied Arabic to NCE level, so I'm familiar with their language and culture, and no where have I seen "Ahad" mean "one of...". And nor does the meaning of Tawheed means Unifying gods. Can u give the meaning of "Ahad" and "Tawheed" by famous and leading Arabic dictionaries such as Lisanul-Arab, Mu'jamut-Tullab etc? My ignorance acn easily be exposed through two means 1. How many times did the Word Ahad appear in the Qur'an? Can you explain how many times Ahad is translated as ONE? eg. Quran 4.152, Quran 8.7, Quran 9.6, Qur'an 33:40 with the exception of Qur'an 112:12. Can you help me translate these secular sentences into Arabic 1. One of the students received a bravery award. 2. One of the friends gave me a beautiful gift. 3. We celebrate the birthday of one of the relatives. 4. Except you give one of us the book, you are in trouble Is it untrue that in normal use Ahad is not ONE! Is it untrue that Waheed is ONE! Unfortunately your prophet was copying the Jewish Shema (Adonai Eloheinu Adonai Echad(Ahad in Arabic) Translation: "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is One."The word Echad is the same used in marriage the two of them become oneGen 2:24: "This explains why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife in such a way that the two become one person."Ahad or Echad makes sense in the light of the Trinity! Almunjid: U have been really brainwashed. U don't know that there's what we Call "Tafsir" (Quranic exegesis). It's like the Jewish "Talmud" where u can find the technical meanings of words and verses of the Quran. U don't just use literal meanings of words to interpret the word of God. Every verse from sacred scriptures has literal and technical meaning. Kafirs like u dwell on the literal meanings or quote out of context in order to confuse the gullible sheep. I could remember u calling my attention to a verse I misinterpreted, but here u are interpreting words and verses from the Quran based on hearsays not based on Tafsir. It's a pity that ur knowledge of Quran is completely wrong! U must have learnt all these from the orientalists, na dem they teach Islam in upside down manner. Everything u talked about Islam is wrong. I no even believe ur Biblical interpretations cos they're all based on ur personal opinions. Do you think Allah is eloquent in speech and grammar? Do you believe in this word of Allah or you think Allah doesn't mean what he is saying? Qur'an 19:97 So We have made this (Qur'an) easy in your tongue that you may give good news to those who take heed, and warn the people who are contentious.So, why do you need multiplicity of Tafsirs written by human beings who are not even prophets to understand what Allah is saying? Do you think it makes sense to abandon the plain words of Allah in Arabic and go with the texts of people not called as prophets!? This is the same accusation Allah gives to the Jews who use their hands to write and call it word of Allah (scripture) Qur'an 2:79 Therefore woe be unto those who write the Scripture with their hands and then say, "This is from Allah," that they may purchase a small gain therewith. Woe unto them for that their hands have written, and woe unto them for that they earn thereby.Aren't you guilty of the same offence of the Jews with their multiplicity of Talmuds!? Almunjid: U sound like one of those who were specially trained to confuse Muslims by misquoting Quran and Ahadith of the Prohet. U wasted months to learn and master nonsense. Lol I wasn't specially trained anywhere. And if I was, it was thanks to Ahmed Deedat and much later Zakir Naik. I repeat :When you ask questions, the Truth will come to you. Almunjid: Sorry to say this, but it's only Jews that know and (once) truly worshipped Yahweh. Everything about modern Christianity is "Romanized". You're indirectly worshipping a "Roman god" that is a 3 in one God but not Yahweh. Did Jews tell u that their God (Yahweh) is 3 in one God? U only believed that you're worshipping Yahweh. Unfortunately ur belief doesn't hold water and is totally unreliable cos it's based on falsehood and doctrines made by men.
Peace! Speaking about the Jews, This was why Jesus corrected them of their understanding of the scripture. If they had perfect understanding of God, there would have been no need for Jesus to correct them. I ask you again:1. Why do you Muslims insist on not using the definition Allah gives for Trinity in the Quran: are you wiser than Allah? How did Allah define the Trinity in the Quran? 2. Is it untrue that in Islam you also have the concept of Trinity (which you deny) but you are roped in the doctrine of Duality? 3. Taoheed is a flawed doctrine unfortunately because you won't ask questions, how can you know? 4. Finally, let's assume that the Christians have missed it and are led astray, what is the Offence of the Jews?5. Is it untrue that Allah directs of to worship him and the Messiah as God? I will be glad if you can answer especially these last five questions Thank you so much. As-salamu alaykum |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Yul Edochie Is Not Qualified To Be A Pastor by TenQ: 6:57pm On Feb 05, 2024 |
OyinO: Are the so-called European Lord? How come it is you or any other who knows who is his? I don't know who your European Lord perhaps you have one European you call Lord. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Yul Edochie Is Not Qualified To Be A Pastor by TenQ: 6:56pm On Feb 05, 2024 |
OyinO: Are the so-called European Lord? How come it is you or any other who knows who is his? You are the most dangerous set of humans on this earth who use man-made religions to cover up your mess. What if I say I don't give a damn about the imperial book you're quoting from? Is any of your ancestors called Timothy or are you a Thessalonian? Do you have to believe in the bible: No! It's a free world! The seed of Anger seem to dwell richly within you: will you call yourself generally joyful? |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 6:53pm On Feb 05, 2024 |
Expanse2020: and did you know why you made yourself a fool is because the Jews who asked the questions (they came to test him but they fail too) they don't dispute the truth and you who was born in 1990s to 2000s will said it is lie.... M U M U 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Mu question is not about the Jews or their question BUT about the written words of Allah that is apparently a big goof. It is you I ask the questions not Allah! Again and for the Final time:1. According to the direct word of Allah, Is it untrue that Allah says that Dhulqanain reached the setting place of the sun? Did did he also appear to reach the setting place of the sun? 2. Did Allah says he found it AS IF the sun was setting in a pool of muddy water? 3. Let us assume that Dhuqhanain was seeing the sunset of the sun, Did Dhuqhanain also APPEAR to see a people there? You don't get it. The sun set anywhere you see it is the farthest you can see: did he see a people on an island so far away into the horizon?
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Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 6:49pm On Feb 05, 2024 |
Expanse2020: You wey you no pass ur village de make mouth.....🤣🤣🤣🤣 Back to the question Let Quran answer you ) (O Muhammad), they ask you about Dhu al-Qarnayn.61 Say: "I will give you an account of him." Surely, We gave him power on earth and gave him means to (have) everything (he needs) So he followed a way. Until, when he reached the setting of the sun [i.e., the west], he found it [as if] setting in a body of dark wate[/b]r,1 and he found near it a people. We [i.e., Allāh] said, "O Dhul-Qarnayn, either you punish [them] or else adopt among them [a way of] goodness."
What is the function of he in that sentence Bro English no be Your mate ooo I asked you three simple comprehension questions, answer them or admit that you are either Ignorant of what you defend or the failure of Allah in his Qur'an is indefensible! If the Qur'an answered my three questions, I would not ask you. If you are not misinterpreting the Quran, there would have been no need for these three questions. It is you I ask the questions not Allah! [b]Again and for the Final time: 1. According to the direct word of Allah, Is it untrue that Allah says that Dhulqanain reached the setting place of the sun? Did did he also appear to reach the setting place of the sun? 2. Did Allah says he found it AS IF the sun was setting in a pool of muddy water? 3. Let us assume that Dhuqhanain was seeing the sunset of the sun, Did Dhuqhanain also APPEAR to see a people there? You don't get it. The sun set anywhere you see it is the farthest you can see: did he see a people on an island so far away into the horizon?
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Christianity Etc › Re: A Slip Of Tongue by Allah In The Qur'an : Allah Is NOT the God of Israel! by TenQ(op): 5:09pm On Feb 05, 2024 |
Almunjid: I don't believe. The saying that only your Messiah gives eternal life is a mere claim; it’s not necessarily true. The Almighty Allah in the Quran seem to disagree totally with you or I guess you are the one disagreeing with Allah. Almunjid: Even though I believe we both read each other’s submissions with closed minds, to each his own beliefs. I believe that all Christians, including you, worship “Roman gods” and not Yahweh? I can prove it from the Bible, just like you misquoted Ahadith and verses from the Quran to paint truth as falsehood. What actually matters to me is “belief”. If you believe that you’re worshipping Roman deities, so be it. I believe I worship Allah/Yahweh, my creator, your creator, and the creator of the universe. The Creator knows what’s in our hearts. What we call who we worship doesn't matter, who we believe we are worshipping matters more. God (our creator) will judge us individually according to our faith and deeds in the day of recompense. Allah says we Christians should worship Allah and the Messiah? Don't you know this? One can face a road and believe it will lead to Mecca, unfortunately beliefs doesn't hold water and is totally unreliable if it is not based on the truth. The Hindus believe that the COW is their mother, no amount of holding on to convert a lie into the truth. The Truth sets free if you only can ask Questions sir! Almunjid: You don’t know what you are talking about regarding the unification of Arab deities under one name as Allah. This is wrong. Where did you learn these absurdities from? You see similarities in both the Quran and the Torah, and you’re bent on condemning others that they’re worshipping Arab deities. Which Deity will confirm events mentioned in the Bible? You said Allah hates Jews? This is yet another claim from you. I don’t know where you learned all these from, but you have learned the wrong things. 1. What is the normal meaning of Ahad? Does it not mean "One of..." or "One out of..)?2. What is the normal meaning of Tawhid? Does it not mean "unification of ..."?Of course there is a redefinition by you Mulims that is not consistent with day to day use of the language. Almunjid: I can’t follow a religion that doesn’t have a unified and unanimous concept of God. In Christianity, it’s either you believe Jesus is the God, your creator, or you believe he’s one of the three Gods, or he’s just a prophet and was sent by God. Jehovah’s witnesses do not believe in the trinity, which is an article of faith in other Christian denominations; they have their own version of the Bible. I would rather return to my root, “African traditional religion”, than to follow a set of confused individuals pretending to be worshipping Yahweh.
Salaam! You forget that no religion can get one into Paradise: Only God can! It is not about divisions in your religion , it is about the truth. Is it true that your prophet said that you Muslims would be divided into 73 sects and only one will enter paradise. Is this not terrible in itself?Speaking of the Trinity: Why do you Muslims insist on even the definition Allah gives Trinity in the Quran: are you wiser than Allah? Even though you also have (at least) DUALITY if not trinity in Islam, you wouldn't ask questions to learn the truth!? What is Trinity? How did Allah define the Trinity in the Quran?It seems you don't comprehend the massive weakness of Tawhid (even if we use your preferred definition) I wish you have great Peace and the Truth sir: only by asking questions will you find it!I almost recited the shahada at a point in my life until I started asking questions! Have a beautiful day! |
Christianity Etc › Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ(op): 4:45pm On Feb 05, 2024 |
Expanse2020: Ur of the chaldees is a city name guy go do your finding and stop wasting my data🤣🤣🤣
Is like you see someone from Lagos and you called him Lagosian .. Lagosian doesn't mean a nation (Nigeria) or trybe (Yoruba or let me break it down to Ẹgba, Awori,Oyo ilé, Ibadan, ijebu) stop mixing city with trybe for God sake ... acquired knowledge and stop arguing... Bonus of the day Try to tell me the trybe of Melchizedek too🤣🤣🤣🤣 Let me assume that I am chatting with a donkey and nothing and no truth on earth can make it reason. You asked:Expanse2020: What trybe or nation is Noah ,Lot , and Abraham too Your Questions have been perfectly answered with evidence: Ur of the Chaldeans! I conclude you have ZERO answer to my Question: No one till now can find any archeological evidence of the wall Dhulqanain built against Gog and Magog No one knows where the city or nation or tribe of the people who live beside the setting place of the sun.I rest my case on this Islam is defeated on the Altar of Truth: there is no running away from it. Now Back to the Questions you dodged:I thank God for the opportunity to travel at least to a few continents and I have been to a few oceans. Everywhere in the world, the sun sets at the horizon in the west. The horizon is the farthest point you can see when looking out at the evening setting sun. The illogicality of the statement of Allah is confirmed with you desperately avoiding answering my questions. Again : 1. According to the direct word of Allah, Is it untrue that Allah says that Dhulqanain reached the setting place of the sun? Did did he also appear to reach the setting place of the sun? 2. Did Allah says he found it AS IF the sun was setting in a pool of muddy water? 3. Let us assume that Dhuqhanain was seeing the sunset of the sun, Did Dhuqhanain also APPEAR to see a people there? You don't get it. The sun set anywhere you see it is the farthest you can see: did he see a people on an island so far away into the horizon?
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ(op): 8:19am On Feb 05, 2024 |
honesttalk21: During early pregnancy, the gravid uterus is typically located within the pelvic cavity. As the pregnancy progresses, the uterus gradually expands and rises out of the pelvis, eventually reaching the abdominal cavity. By the third trimester, the gravid uterus may extend upward toward the rib cage as it continues to accommodate the growing fetus. SirTee15 would you see this as incorrect?
Some pregnant females may experience rib pain or a feeling of fullness under the rib cage as a result of the gravid uterus pushing against these structures.
Furthermore, the growth in size of the uterus may move even more upward and backward, placing additional pressure on the lower back and pelvic region which can lead to an increased lumbar lordosis, which may cause discomfort and back pain for some pregnant individuals.
In a vertical view of the pregnant female anatomy do we say the pelvic region is situated lower than the rib cage? Are your hips lower too? Is it incorrect to say these body locations are under the location of the ribs when a horizontal line is taken perpendicularly?
During a caesarean section why is it better not to go from the rib cage region? Where is the easier point of entry? How quickly does the broken bone heal? Will you put other protected organs like the lungs and heart at risk to bring out the baby? This reasoning you propose is funny. Do some women feel pressure on their rib cage during pregnancy? Why is this? You do not want to accept and are applying tact biological and surgical jargon SirTee15. It's ok. Please see the diagram attached and tell what you will of the position of the Gravid uterus represented relative to the ribs.
TenQ no thanks do you see the logic now? What is the connection of the baby with the ribs and back bone: Does the Baby proceed from between the Ribs and the Backbone or Between the Backbone and the External Stomach? Is the human kidney between the ribs and the backbone?
Even your latest picture support my case! Allah is wrong my dear! |