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Expanse2020:
I have 2question for 2
1. Proof it wrong that
2. Show me too how your Jesus create you in the bible too

Thanks

I will explain the answer to you Biologically

honesttalk21:
Oh! It is now a waste of time and you accept that the Bible fails to establish a clear and coherent line of ancestry for Mary up to Amran thus it raises important questions regarding the chronology of God's dealings with humans. These inconsistencies and gaps in the genealogies raise doubts about their precision after all the ancestry of John the Baptist through Zachary and indeed Elizabeth can be traced that far back why not then that of Jesus?


Your failure to understand the revelation of Allah in the Quran isn't proof of what you say. Stall the thought and lets finish with Mary first.

I need you to show me the lineage of Mary's father and I ask you to show that of her mother too.

Mary is of the tribe of Judah you say, show how this is after all Judah is the son of Jacob and from him we can get the line of ancestry to Amran. Simply show all this and stop going around.

honesttalk21:
Your proof is not clear at all Mr. Show in clear steps how you arrive at your claimed QED. This is not a scenario of bulldozing.

I don't see where you show me the Quran is not the speech of the almighty God. The Quran is a revelation from Allah; glory be to him the most high.

Do not answer a question with a question! If you will satisfy your definition of the Bible being the chronicle of God's dealings with people.

Who says so or is it also stated in your Bible?

If indeed Mary's origins and lineage are ininconsequential then why the force about her descendance from Amran and her relation to Aaron. Why are you seeming inconsistent?

Tell please; who was Mary the mother of Jesus's mother and her paternal and maternal granparents.

honesttalk21:
You say the Bible is a Chronicle of God's dealings can you explain this without regarding the importance of chronicle in the phrase? Kindly tell me what the chronicles of God's dealings is and perhaps your Bible says this and if not point me to who or where this was said?

honesttalk21:
Did I tell you the Quran is a Chronicle or book of history? You have said and implied this about the Bible.

I am not pretending it's not just time to attend to it. We aren't done on the present issue unless you now accept the reasons earlier given regarding the nature of Mary the mother of Jesus's relationship to Amran and Aaron.

Can we go further on this?
Heli is the father of Mary according to you. Who is her mother and who are her grandparents? Let's finish this up then get to your diversionary questions

Mrvictorwrite:
confused lol
bring your assignments and project to me

TenQ:
Can God make such a mistake?
Does human sperm at any point become congealed blood?
If it does, How?

[b]Again: I called your bluff[/b]

Qur'an 23:14
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!


The human sperms never ever at any stage become a clot of congealed blood: does it?

See how miserable your scientific miracle of the Quran is! SMH!

Tell me,
Do sperm become Blood?
It seems Allah doesn't know that a sperm fuses with the "egg/ovum" from the ovary to produce a zygote!?

Sahih Muslim 2643b
This hadith has been reported on the authority of A'mash with the same chain of transmitters and in the hadith transmitted on the authority of Waki' (the words are):
" The creation of any one of you is like this that (semen) is collected in the womb of the mother for forty nights," and in the hadith transmitted on the authority of Shu'ba (the words are):" Forty nights and forty days." And in the hadith transmitted on the authority of Jarir and 'Isa (the words are):" Forty days."

Can semen alive for more than five days except when frozen?

AntiChristian:
Is this a question or a statement?


Muhammad will intercede for his nation!

AntiChristian:
Those who seek clarifications from Jesus were also teaching him the non-existent Bible right? This your holy spirit bias no be here!
Anyways you just proved that coming to it (hell) does not mean staying in it.

The people of Badr mentioned in the hadith you quoted were already promised paradise in the Saheehs!

In an authentic hadeeth, the Prophet, sallallahu ʻalayhi wa sallam, said, “Perhaps Allah has looked at those who witnessed Badr and said, ‘Do whatever you like, for I have forgiven you.’” [Al-Bukhaari and Muslim] Another version of the hadeeth reads, “...for Paradise is guaranteed for you.” The meaning is obvious; that Allah decreed for the Companions who participated in the Battle of Badr that they shall be among the people of Paradise and that the sins which they commit are forgiven.

AntiChristian:
Of course it does.
Muhammad is not Allah our creator! Just as Jesus said by himself he can do nothing!
Placing people in Paradise is only by Allah's mercy and Allah will be the one to grant the grace of intercession to Muhammad and whoever He wills.

Your Jesus was saying all power has been given unto him. By who?
That means he had no power of himself, despite performing many miracles which he still had to pray to God!

honesttalk21:
For the avoidance of any doubt you say:


But CHRONICLE
noun
An extended account in prose or verse of historical events, sometimes including legendary material, presented in chronological order and without authorial interpretation or comment.
A detailed narrative record or report.
A historical account of facts or events disposed in the order of time; a history; especially, a bare or simple record of occurrences in their order of time.

Furthermore The chronicles of God's dealings with man offer a narrative tapestry detailing the relationship between God and humanity. From the creation of the universe to the covenant with Noah.

You have reluctantly given the name of Mary's father as Heli. Who was her mother?

Do well to give Biblical reference too.

You could be magnanimous in reply to give the name of Heli's father, the father to Heli's father and so on.

This will establish the lineage of Mary with respect to the aspect of our discussion you insist to clarify.

TenQ:
Qur'an 23:14
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!


The human sperms never ever at any stage become a clot of congealed blood: does it?
Allah should know that shouldn't he?

Expanse2020:
[/quote]Can God make such a mistake?
Does human sperm at any point become congealed blood?
If it does, How?

[b]Again: I called your bluff[/b]

Qur'an 23:14
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!


The human sperms never ever at any stage become a clot of congealed blood: does it?

gaby:
Do you guys know that no single one of the current and past leaders of Israel is from the region or the current land they occupy and claim as there's?

From Himon Perez, Ariel Sharon, to Benjamin Netanyahu. They are all from either Poland, Ukraine, Morocco, Netherlands, etc.

And then most of these soldiers are "privileged kids" from mainly the U.S. Who claim to be Zionists fighting for their Zionist beliefs and heritage.

The more you know about the current Israel, the angrier you get at their oppression.

* Do not confuse Zionists with the original Jews who are never in support of these Zionist's actions.

honesttalk21:
A "chronicle" refers to a detailed record of events in the order in which they occurred.
I simply ask you to present the immediate parents of Mary the mother of Jesus according to the Bible.

We can then trace back her lineage from there and establish her bloodline.

This must be difficult for you and you resort to gish galloping asking other questions outside the primary discussion.

We may address your gish gallops later but not before we finish the issues about Mary the mother of Jesus's family line and issues you have with the revealed Quran verses.

Expanse2020:
Start with biology proof it wrong

honesttalk21:
Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat
- the burden of proof lies with the one who speaks, not the one who denies-

You are therefore obligated to present the wrong or accept your inability to understand what is said or you read.

Expanse2020:
Oya proof it wrong

AntiChristian:
Some people!

Not all Muslims!

You lied as usual!

Expanse2020:
Show us yours in your book
Al -Jumuah
O ye who believe! When the call is proclaimed to prayer on Friday (the Day of Assembly), hasten earnestly to the Remembrance of Allah, and leave off business (and traffic): That is best for you if ye but knew!

Shows when to go to church on Saturday or Sunday c🤣🤣🤣😂😂

regulations.
John 4:23. By dancing(azonto, club dance), Drumming, singing, belling, 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂😂
Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks


Show me what Sciences said about it If it does not correct
You win


I will post everything what Science said about Quran from Science to history and no duct, no discripancy on it

Expanse2020:
Glory be to almighty Allah for perfect Islam as a best religion
How prophet taught us everything as how he himself did it
Ablution in Quran
Al-Maida
O you who have believed, when you rise to [perform] prayer, wash your faces and your forearms to the elbows and wipe over your heads and wash your feet to the ankles.

al-Hud
"And establish the Prayer at the two ends of the day and in the first hours of the night. Indeed the good deeds drive away the evil deeds. This is a Reminder to those who are mindful of Allah." Fajr and isha


Al-Qaf , "Therefore, O Prophet (saws), bear with patience whatever they say, and keep up glorifying your Lord with his praise, before sunrise and before sunset. And glorify Him again in the night and also when are free from prostrations."

Expanse2020:
Common sense is not common

God is not like human being who didn't know what will happen next 5mins
He plan, architect, engineer the whole universe and response to both the living things and non- living at simultaneous

A useless person like you comparing yourself to God🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 tomorrow dead body de feel like Almighty Allah

Expanse2020:
Go and read the verse I sent you
And tell me where the bible tell you to go church on Saturday or Sunday to pray🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Expanse2020:
Have been answering your questions since answer mine too if you don't feel shame

Expanse2020:
I know you don't read and that is the problem you have

Expanse2020:
I showed you proof from Quran and hadiths

Show me anything from your bbook

Expanse2020:
Musa is from yaweh too
Yusuf is from yaweh too
Ilyas from yaweh too
Adam is from yaweh

Shaking my head for you
You just keep winning yourself
And the Yahoo boys are from Yaweh too🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Expanse2020:
Pray (Muhammad S.A.W)as you have seen me praying…”- Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book
11, Hadith 604.

Narrated Abdullah bin ‘Umar: I saw that whenever Allah’s Apostle stood for the prayer, he used to raise both his hands up to the shoulders, and used to do the same on saying the Takbir for bowing and on raising his head from it and used to say, “Sami a-l-lahu Liman hamida.” – Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12, Number 703.
Sami a-l-lahu Liman hamida”, and he used to do the same on rising from the second Rak’a (for the 3rd Rak’a). Ibn ‘Umar said: “The Prophet used to do the same.” – Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12, Number 706.

How much did you need, how many hadith did you want me to give you


Shoe me in Your bible how Jesus dance, sing, beating drum, ring bell and the bible he used show me in the bible 🤣🤣😂🤣 big shame on you show me

WriterNig:
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https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/15/20/55384867-10616485-Russia_ran_several_settlements_in_North_America_during_the_19th_-a-16_1647377404889.jpg

In a surprising turn of events, Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a decree branding the 1867 sale of Alaska to the U.S. as 'illegal.' This move has reignited historical debates and raised geopolitical concerns on a global scale.

Alaska, acquired by the U.S. from the Russian Empire for $7.2 million, has been an integral part of the nation for over 150 years. The region's strategic location near Russia's eastern territories through the Bering Strait has long been a geopolitical focal point.

Post-World War II, Alaska gained heightened significance as the U.S. and the Soviet Union emerged as rivals. Now, in the wake of Putin's 2022 invasion of Ukraine, the idea of reclaiming Alaska has gained momentum among Russian politicians.

Sergei Mironov, a close ally of Putin, advocates for Moscow to consider reclaiming Alaska from what he perceives as a "weakened U.S." State Duma President Vyacheslav Volodin issues a cautionary message to Americans, reminding them of Russia's potential to reclaim assets, should they attempt to seize Russian properties abroad.

Drawing parallels with Russia's actions in Crimea, historically transferred to Ukraine during the Soviet era, adds an ominous historical context to the unfolding situation.

The tension brewing between Russia and the U.S. over Alaska adds a new layer to the complex geopolitics of our time. Fueled by historical grievances and recent global events, this situation highlights the evolving dynamics between these two influential nations and raises questions about the potential impact on the global geopolitical landscape. As the world watches, the historical echoes and contemporary geopolitical maneuvering create an atmosphere of uncertainty and concern.

Expanse2020:
Glory be to almighty Allah for perfect Islam as a best religion
How prophet taught us everything as how he himself did it
Ablution in Quran
Al-Maida
O you who have believed, when you rise to [perform] prayer, wash your faces and your forearms to the elbows and wipe over your heads and wash your feet to the ankles.

al-Hud
"And establish the Prayer at the two ends of the day and in the first hours of the night. Indeed the good deeds drive away the evil deeds. This is a Reminder to those who are mindful of Allah." Fajr and isha


Surah Qaf , "Therefore, O Prophet (saws), bear with patience whatever they say, and keep up glorifying your Lord with his praise, before sunrise and before sunset. And glorify Him again in the night and also when are free from prostrations."
.

Surah Rum , "So, glorify Allah in the evening and in the morning; all praise is for Him in the heavens and the earth- as well as in the afternoon and at noon."
Salat al-fajr, Salat al-zuhr, Salat al-asr and Salat al-magrib.

Shame on you
That all you looking for in our book

Show me in your book how your master tell you to pray to God and how your white Roman JESUS pray in the bible by dancing, singing, closing eye, the churches he goes, the bible he used 🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 I bet if you can even manage to answer of these questions

Shame on you man
No adequate of knowledge in your religion but a play only

Expanse2020:
Na Yahweh get Spirit oooo My Allah is bigger than your Yahweh spirit which dead for three days 😂 😂🤣😂🤣 who was killed Jewish people
Lazy Yahweh
He no get power
Powerless God die for nothing



Answer my own question too
You see it
You read it
You dodge it
No answer for it

Expanse2020:
Where OOO

Expanse2020:
it's your Yahweh that has spirit and his spirit died on the cross for three days😂😂😂😂

You should go and read the Tfisr for you to understand

The next verse suite bajẹ 😂😂😂
As for the disbelievers, may they be doomed and may He render their deeds void.

Expanse2020:
Ok you are telling the almighty Allah that seek to the affairs of everything in the universe will not know what going on in the all seven heaven....you need to check yourself bro
[!/quote]
If he can come downstairs from his office upstairs, he cannot be in two places at the same time. Is Allah not one?

Even if Allah is like an Amoeba, if he comes down from upstairs to downstairs, he cannot be upstairs again.


[quote author=Expanse2020 post=128074267]Answer my question
Show me where Jesus dance sing, close his eyes to worship Almighty God in the bible
Show me the church he attended
Shame on you
You can't find answer to a single question among these

Expanse2020:
you should quote the full verse not the short edit verse you put in their...
Who ever edit, adding, removing from the world God Sha received a calamity at the end of his life (bible also talk am)

honesttalk21:
Do you claim your Bible is a complete historical collection?

You say certain names were not common but I have in discussion given you two names that appears more than once in different generations? Is that not true that there are more than one Eleazar and Jacob?

honesttalk21:
Tell me from your Bible about the direct parents of Mary who bore Jesus.

This is a better place to continue this discussion from.

Expanse2020:
The mighty does not need help of his creation to do anything 🤣🤣😂 not like any other gods. Who died but we don't know who controls the universe..
Not like Hindu with Thier trinity
Not like Buddhist with Thier trinity
Not like Christians with Thier trinity
Not like Satanic with Thier own trinity too( anti Christ, spirit,God)
But just one (Allah) he only control everything
He cannot die, he does not have begginning like your God, no ending like your God and cannot die like your God
Only him alone is the bearer of his throne and majesty
Remember bible said you can't serve two masters at the same time unless you will be bias.,..that why you are biass to yourmaker and keep shouting invented Jésùs by the Romans who claimed to be God

Expanse2020:
Tell if you are in a compounding which have 7 storey building you now come to the first floor does that mean you leave the enter house or compound can't you listening to urself, you are not making sense naw

And you said you are a knowledgeable
person..The almighty Allah created the whole univer hearing all the living and understand all the creature be it on the earth, inside or above the earth, that see to the affairs of everything doesn't need anybody help be it angel,human ,animal plant to do anything..
You are redicuelus....
It's Jesus your Lord that died in three days but we don't know who was controlled the univer when your lord died as claimed by your white man bible🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣