₦airaland Forum

Judolisco:
Na Ukraine mumu pass 4 all dis yeye war.... People wey dey support you no dey fight war for their own country oh... With all d support you've been getting nothing to show for it...

I need a new houseboy, I report to my house tomorrow else I will flog you ti you give up.

I know you will jejely surrender and come!

I am waiting.

ehikwe22:
Russia is a weak 3rd world country they said. Russia is not strong and their weapons are antiquated they say. But here we are today, after one year of the whole western countries and their Allies in Asia and Oceania ganged up against Russia and armed a puppet Ukraine to execute the war, Russia is still standing strong till date and the west are about to abandon their puppet under the guide of lack of ammunition

You sound like a "quacking" chicken who is Annoyed that its favourite bully Putin was not allowed to win a quick war over a ten times smaller neighbour with a comedian as president.

Sorry!

Russia should have invaded a sovereign nation who didnt attack him.

advocatejare:
He believes in the one and only true God, Yahweh


Allah was Muhammad’s creation. Muslims rank Muhammad higher than Allah, that is why they don’t get moved when Allah is insulted but they unleash terror on anyone who insults Muhammad

Perfectly said bro!

Mohammed is Allah in physical form.

Because Mohammed and Muslims replace the Messiah with Mohammed, and it makes Mohammed an Antichrist!

I have asked you basic and simple question to which you neither produced a logical or theological explanations


Is this untrue
1. If Jubril is an Angel, he is a Creation of Allah
2. If Jibril is a creation of Allah, he CANNOT be an attribute of Allah.

The Questions
1. So, In Islam, if Jibril is a spirit are other Angels also spirits?

2. I asked you a question : How is Adam created in the image or form or picture of Allah as we know that Allah was not made from mud? (Is Allah 60 cubits tall?)

Explore2xmore:
Your problem is with how you want questions answered to suit a fixed format. You don't conduct an investigative experiment with a known result.
Jibril is a creation of Allah as you are too.
God talks to his creation in different ways according to his majesty. Don't you talk and cimmunicate to other beings. Is this not you exhibiting an attribute similar to that of God?God spoke directly to Moses or didn't he?

2. This discussion is old and I may not remember specifically however if you are an architect and draw up a plan which you later transform into a building is it not your plan or design that you have built?

You go to hadith that resonates with what you have in your Bible?

You should consider this Hadith in a way befitting Allah without comparison or likening Allah’s Attributes to those of His Creation or denial of Allah’s Attributes. It does not necessarily mean that his Image (may He be Glorified) is like the image of human beings.

Allah says he created man in the best of forms,
then reduced him to the lowest of the low,except those who believe and do righteous deeds; for them is a reward without end.

Do you not reflect on the status of man in paradise before he came down to earth? Do you not reason the high status of man before when all his needs were available to him? In comparison to his struggle on earth before a later return to the high position in the afterlife?



With the little I have said surely it falls far below what Muhammad salallahu alaihi wa salam says and who qualifies you as a judge?


Why bother asking questions on issues to which when you are responded you can only fault? Indeed it's not buy pompous ignorant mischief you play at.

So, is a spirit eg. Jubril an attribute of Allah?
And is ANY of the attribute of Allah created?

You can't answer because you prophet doesn't know what the Spirit is!

Your response is summarised with
Why bother asking questions on issues to which when you are responded you can only fault? Indeed it's not buy pompous ignorant mischief you play at

This is a serious Escapist way of responding to valid Questions. Give me a Logical or Theological Answers with respect to Islam.

The Religion of the Jews and the Religion of the Christians have answers to these questions: ask me and I will tell you clearly and unequivocally BUT before then, tell me the answers to the simple questions.

Ohyoudidnt:
No where is it stated that Hadith are infallible. Aren't these the writing based on the understanding of man?

A lot like your Bible for instance. The one said to be crucified with your Jesus says:
Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom" (Luke 23:42). Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43) But John 20:17 reads where Christ says to Mary Magdalene (three days after His crucifixion), "I have not yet ascended to My Father." So Christ hadn't returned to heaven the day of His crucifixion.

So if he hadn't gone up to the father or heaven did he just give the co-crucified Blind hope?


But the legs of Jesus weren't broken. Why? Every illusion has some logic behind it. Was there a pseudocide?

When evidence is provided for reasonable doubt? Aha your Hadith created version of Islam done without thorough consideration of verifying hadith along with what the Quran says.

You didn't share links to your evidence maybe these will be more convincing than your style of argument? Please share these weblinks.

What is the Hadith?
Is it untrue that:
Hadiths are reports of the Deeds, Approvals and Sayings of your prophet Mohammed?
You seem to forget that the Qur'an is another Hadith according to Mohammed.
LOL

Again:
Is the Quran not a Hadith taken from Mohammed where he claimed that he recieved some words from Jibril who got it from Allah!?
Does the Qur'an you carry about not also have it's Isnad like every other hadith?



Yes the Legs of Jesus wasn't broken for two reasons
1. He was already dead therefore his legs needn't be broken. The legs of criminals were broken only to hasten the death of the crucified as he couldn't lift up himself to breathe again.
John 19:31-34:
"The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) sought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. Then came the soldiers, and broke the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him. But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they broke not his legs: But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and immediately came there out blood and water."

2. It was prophesied that the Messaiah's bone will NOT be broken.

Psalms 34:20
"He protects all his (the Messaiah's) bones, not one of them will be broken."

John 19:36-37:
"For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken. And again another scripture said, They shall look on him whom they pierced."




Unfortunately,
It is you Muslims that are manufacturing conjectures to explain what happens to Jesus with respect to crucifixion!

Ohyoudidnt:
Evidence abound from Aisha's mouth but related through other people?

The likely mistake of forgetting to relay the 'teen' part with the number should not be overlooked.
In his work "Rawdhat al-'Uqala," Ibn Hibban mentioned a narration that stated Aisha was married to the Prophet Muhammad at the age of fourteen.
Some work by Kathir too says same.

Except if you can admit that your hadiths are pure junks, fabrications and lies.
No amount of alternative theory changes this if your religious books are mere fabrications!

Ohyoudidnt:
Are you not aware of high level intellectual sarcasm? If a man has committed a crime punishable by death and he is put to death and you hang him on a tree, his body shall not remain all night on the tree but you shall bury him the same day for a hanged man is cursed by God." - Deuteronomy 21:22-23 then they bring you other verses saying the 'cursed' has freed you of the curse? Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree" Galatians 3:13. Would those that hatched this plan not be overcome in laughter. You know the myth of the rat that eats your toe and blows air on it to soothe it so you don't know?

And the scripture gave reasons for it.
The next day was sabbath and thus crucifixion must end before it.
This explains why the legs of the criminals were broken to hasten their deaths.

Unfortunately, the till today, the Muslims are the ones confused about Jesus's crucifixion : they have several conjectures to that effect.

Ohyoudidnt:
Did you not read any arguments against the 6/7/9yr brouhaha?

Sahih al-Bukhari 4993
Narrated Yusuf bin Mahk:
While I was with Aisha, the mother of the Believers, a person from Iraq came and asked, "What type of shroud is the best?" `Aisha said, "May Allah be merciful to you! What does it matter?" He said, "O mother of the Believers! Show me (the copy of) your Qur'an," She said, "Why?" He said, "In order to compile and arrange the Qur'an according to it, for people recite it with its Suras not in proper order." `Aisha said, "What does it matter which part of it you read first? (Be informed) that the first thing that was revealed thereof was a Sura from Al-Mufassal, and in it was mentioned Paradise and the Fire. When the people embraced Islam, the Verses regarding legal and illegal things were revealed. If the first thing to be revealed was: 'Do not drink alcoholic drinks.' people would have said, 'We will never leave alcoholic drinks,' and if there had been revealed, 'Do not commit illegal sexual intercourse, 'they would have said, 'We will never give up illegal sexual intercourse.' While I was a young girl of playing age, the following Verse was revealed in Mecca to Muhammad: 'Nay! But the Hour is their appointed time (for their full recompense), and the Hour will be more grievous and more bitter.' (54.46) Sura Al-Baqara (The Cow) and Surat An-Nisa (The Women) were revealed while I was with him." Then `Aisha took out the copy of the Qur'an for the man and dictated to him the Verses of the Suras (in their proper order) .

About the above Hadith. Al-Qurtubi says in his tafsir: Ibn Abbas said: “Between the revelation of this verse and the Battle of Badr passed seven years.” If that is so, this means that it was sent down before the hijra by five years, and eight years after the start of the Revelation.
Ibn Sida says in al-Muhkam and Ibn Manzur in Lisan al-Arab: al-Jariyah: A young women (fatiyyah). A fatiyya is another word for al-shabba (a pubescent woman). It appears that they use this word to refer to a girl at the very beginning of her puberty.
So how old was Aisha when 54:46 was revealed, which was revealed eight years after the Revelation?
According to the first opinion above she would have been four years old. A four-year-old is never referred to as a jariyah. Therefore the conclusion from this is that the first opinion is wrong, while according to the second opinion she would have been 12 at the time of this revelation, and this is what fits the meaning of jariyah as used in the language.

Sahih al-Bukhari 476
Narrated `Aisha:
(the wife of the Prophet) I had seen my parents following Islam since I attained the age of puberty. Not a day passed but the Prophet pbuh visited us, both in the mornings and evenings. My father Abu Bakr thought of building a mosque in the courtyard of his house and he did so. He used to pray and recite the Qur'an in it. The pagan women and their children used to stand by him and look at him with surprise. Abu Bakr was a Softhearted person and could not help weeping while reciting the Qur'an. The chiefs of the Quraish pagans became afraid of that (i.e. that their children and women might be affected by the recitation of Qur'an).
How many 6yr olds attain puberty? answer truthfully though not necessarily to me. From this narration in Bukhari she was not yet married when she started her puberty.

There is no argument dear. Your hadiths are clear and unambiguous on the age of Aisha when she married Mohammed.
Every other thing is a testament to the LIES, UNRELIABILITY and UNTRUSTWORTHENESS of Muslim testimonies!

advocatejare:
Especially Al-Makireena, the best of the deceivers!

And Allah is Al-Mumin (the Believer)!


Why would the Creator of everything be a believer?

One can only believe that which has no certainty!


Finally, the it will interest you to know that Mohammed himself just like Allah has 99 names some of which he shares with Allah!

MightySparrow:
Don't mind them. You see they misqoute their references.

If Allah says he gave the land to Israel, shouldn't Muslims agree with Allah?

Unfortunately, the the spirit of killing and destruction has taken over their soul that against even the judgment of their God Allah, they must find reasons to fight and be fought

Explore2xmore:
Only sharing and not debating.


The name Jubril, also known as Gabriel, is a highly revered figure in Islamic tradition. As one of the primary archangels, Jubril holds a significant role in delivering divine messages from Allah to prophets such as Muhammad. However, it is essential to recognize that Jubril, although influential, does not encompass the entirety of the spirit of Allah. Islam teaches that Allah's wisdom and presence are vast and immeasurable, far beyond any single entity or embodiment.

To understand the spirit of Allah, we must first comprehend the concept of Tawhid, the fundamental belief in the oneness of Allah. Tawhid teaches that Allah is indivisible and does not have any partners or associates. Allah's essence cannot be contained or reduced to a single entity, including Jubril. Islamic teachings remind us that Allah is omnipotent, omnipresent, and transcendent, surpassing any human comprehension.

While Jubril is known for delivering revelations to prophets, he is only an intermediary for Allah's divine messages. The Quran makes it clear that Allah is the sole source of guidance and knowledge. In Surah An-Nahl (16:2), it states, "He sends down the angels with the inspiration by His command upon whom He wills of His servants." This verse emphasizes Allah's authority and underscores the subordinate role of the angels, including Jubril.

Additionally, the Quran highlights the fact that there are numerous angels in Allah's creation, all serving different purposes. Some angels are responsible for recording our deeds, while others are protectors or helpers. This diverse array of angels indicates that each angel has a specific function and cannot embody the entirety of Allah's spirit. Allah's power and presence extend beyond any single angelic figure.

Moreover, the Islamic tradition recognizes that Allah's spirit encompasses all creation. Allah's attributes, such as mercy, wisdom, and justice, are reflected in various aspects of existence. The Quran states, "It is He who created the heavens and earth in six days and then established Himself above the Throne. He knows what penetrates into the earth and what emerges from it and what descends from the heaven and what ascends therein; and He is with you wherever you are. And Allah, of what you do, is Seeing." (57:4). This verse suggests that Allah's presence permeates the entire universe and is not limited to a specific angel or entity. Do not interprete Allah being with you to merely physically being with you but understand Allah is all encompassing of his creation which all came from him.

Therefore, while Jubril plays an instrumental role in delivering divine messages, it is essential to remember that his role is just a fragment of Allah's vast wisdom and presence. Islam urges its followers to establish a direct connection with Allah by seeking His guidance and adhering to His teachings in the Quran. This direct connection allows individuals to tap into the spirit of Allah themselves and strengthen their relationship with the divine.

Jubril, as a respected archangel, is not comprehensive enough to embody the entirety of the spirit of Allah. Islamic teachings emphasize the oneness of Allah and His immeasurability, transcending any individual or entity. While Jubril serves as an intermediary for Allah's divine messages, it is our individual responsibility as Muslims to cultivate a personal connection with Allah and seek His guidance directly. By recognizing the vastness of Allah's spirit, we can deepen our understanding of Islam and strengthen our faith.

Allah's spirit is not limited to a single angel or being, but rather encompasses the divine essence that is spread throughout the universe. The spirit of Allah is all-encompassing and can be felt and experienced in numerous ways, whether through the beauty of nature, the compassion in people's hearts, or the serenity found in prayer. It is not confined to the interactions of angels alone, but rather a force that permeates all aspects of creation.

Muslims with internal inconsistent loads of contradictions.

It is impossible to answer my questions without defining what a spirit is. This is a simple exercise by both Jews and Christians.

It doesn't dawn on you that
1. If Jubril is an Angel, he is a Creation of Allah
2. If Jibril is a creation of Allah, he CANNOT be an attribute of Allah.


1. So, In Islam, if Jibril is a spirit are other Angels also spirits?
Heb 1:7:
"And of the angels he (God) said, Who makes his angels spirits , and his ministers a flame of fire."
2. I asked you a question : How is Adam created in the image or form or picture of Allah as we know that Allah was not made from mud? (Is Allah 60 cubits tall?)

If Mohammed couldn't say what Ruh is, what makes you think you can say anything other than vagues about it?

MightySparrow:
[b] The Holy Land: “My righteous servants shall inherit the land” – The past and future
13th August 20210
Ata-ul-Haye Nasir, Al Hakam
In the Holy Quran, Allah the Almighty mentions His promise which he made regarding the Promised Land, Palestine. He said:

وَ‭ ‬لَقَدۡ‮ ‬كَتَبۡنَا فِی ‬الزَّبُوۡرِ‭ ‬مِنۡۢ‭ ‬بَعۡدِ‭ ‬الذِّكۡرِ‭ ‬اَنَّ‭ ‬الۡاَرۡضَ‭ ‬يَرِثُهَا‭ ‬عِبَادِيَ‭ ‬الصّٰلِحُوۡنَ

“And already have We written in the Book [of David], after the exhortation, that My righteous servants shall inherit the land.” (Surah al-Anbiya, Ch.21: V.106)

Holy Land Israel Palestine
Hazrat Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmud Ahmadra, Musleh-e-Maud, provided a detailed insight into this promise. During his speech of 28 December 1954, he said:

“How wonderful this promise was, and how gloriously it has been fulfilled! The detail of this promise is that Allah the Almighty states in Surah Bani Israil:

فَاِذَا جَآءَ وَعۡدُ اُوۡلٰهُمَا بَعَثۡنَا عَلَيۡكُمۡ عِبَادًا لَّنَاۤ اُولِيۡ بَاۡسٍ شَدِيۡدٍ فَجَاسُوۡا خِلٰلَ الدِّيَارِ ؕ وَ كَانَ وَعۡدًا مَّفۡعُوۡلًا

ثُمَّ رَدَدۡنَا لَكُمُ الۡكَرَّةَ عَلَيۡهِمۡ وَ اَمۡدَدۡنٰكُمۡ بِاَمۡوَالٍ وَّ بَنِيۡنَ وَ جَعَلۡنٰكُمۡ اَكۡثَرَ نَفِيۡرًا

“[So when the time for the first of the two warnings came, We sent against you [some] servants of Ours possessed of great might in war, and they penetrated the [innermost parts of your] houses, and it was a warning that was bound to be carried out. Then We gave you back the power against them, and aided you with wealth and children, and made you larger in numbers. (Surah Bani Israil, Ch.17: V.6-7)].

“Then [Allah the Almighty] says:

فَاِذَا جَآءَ وَعۡدُ الۡاٰخِرَةِ لِيَسُوۡٓءٗا وُجُوۡهَكُمۡ وَ لِيَدۡخُلُوا الۡمَسۡجِدَ كَمَا دَخَلُوۡهُ اَوَّلَ مَرَّةٍ وَّ لِيُتَبِّرُوۡا مَا عَلَوۡا تَتۡبِيۡرًا

عَسٰی رَبُّكُمۡ اَنۡ يَّرۡحَمَكُمۡ ۚ وَ اِنۡ عُدۡتُّمۡ عُدۡنَا ۘ وَ جَعَلۡنَا جَهَنَّمَ لِلۡكٰفِرِيۡنَ حَصِيۡرًا

“[[Now], if you do well, you will do well for your own souls; and if you do evil, it will [only go] against them. So when the time for the latter warning came, [We raised a people against you] to cover your faces with grief, and to enter the Mosque as they entered it the first time, and to destroy all that they conquered with utter destruction. It may be that your Lord will [now] have mercy on you; but if you return [to your previous state], We [too] will return, and We have made Hell a prison for the disbelievers. (Surah Bani Israil, Ch.17: V.8-9)]

“[Allah the Almighty] said that He had given them [the Jews] another land – which had some conditions attached as well. [They were told] that Palestine would be given to the ‘righteous servants of God.’” (Anwar-ul-Ulum, Vol. 25, p. 73)

Huzoorra continued by citing those conditions in light of the above-mentioned verses. He said that Allah the Almighty said that after some time, this land would be taken away from the Jews, and a nation possessing huge military power would enter all cities of Palestine and dissolve their government.

Huzoorra said:

“Therefore, the Babylonian armies invaded and they destroyed places of worship, cities, occupied the country and ruled for almost a hundred years. After that, the government was changed, and the Jews got their country back.” (Ibid, pp. 74-75)

Hazrat Musleh-e-Maudra explained that Allah the Almighty states that He would again take away this land from the Jews. Those who would occupy it, would humiliate them and disrespect their places of worship, and they would spread destruction everywhere, just like the Babylonians did earlier.

Huzoorra added that then Allah the Almighty states:

عَسٰی ‬رَبُّكُمۡ‭ ‬اَنۡ‭ ‬يَّرۡحَمَكُم

Meaning “It may be that your Lord will [now] have mercy on you.”

Huzoorra elaborated:

“Here, [Allah] did not say that it would come to them [the Jews], instead, it stated that Allah the Almighty would show mercy, meaning that the previous humiliation would be removed, it did not mean that the Jews would get [the land] again.” (Ibid, p. 74)

Huzoorra said:

“Then, after the Messiahas [of Nazareth], the Romans invaded this country again and destroyed and ruined it. Hence, they destroyed the ‘mosque’, and sacrificed the swine inside [the mosque], and they got its occupation. But at last, the Roman king accepted Christianity.

“That is why [Allah] did not say here that the land would be returned to the Jews. Earlier [He] stated that it would be returned, meaning that the Jews would get it back. But at the second place, [He] did not say it would be returned, instead [He] stated that ‘Your Lord will [now] have mercy on you’, meaning their humiliation would be removed.

“Hence, when the Roman king became a Christian, he started to accept Mosesas, Davidas and similarly all prophets who had come. Although he was a follower of Jesusas, as Jesusas was from the Mosaic line – the Christian kingdom showed respect for the Jewish prophets and the Torah as well, [they] even considered the Torah to be their holy book. Meaning God had mercy on them. Although the Jews did not get the government, it went into the hands of Christians [who were obviously the followers of the Mosaic Law].” (Ibid, p. 75)

Huzoorra said that Allah the Almighty further stated that “if you return to your previous state”, then the land would be taken away from the Christians as well, who were a group among the Jews as they also followed the Mosaic Law.

Huzoorra added that here, Allah the Almighty indicated that after this, the Muslims would come to this land, and they would occupy it, and become عِبَادِيَ‭ ‬الصّٰلِحُوۡنَ – the righteous servants of Allah.

Huzoorra elaborated:

“But here, [Allah] did not say that they [Muslims] would disrespect the ‘mosque’. Look, at the first two instances, it is stated that they [the invaders] would disrespect the mosque. But the third time when the punishment had to come – during which the land was to be taken away from them [the Jews] – He did not say that they would disrespect the ‘mosque’, because Mosesas and all the prophets under his law were holy in the eyes of Muslims, and their places were also sacred [for them]. For this reason, the Muslims could not do any harm to their [Jews’] ‘mosques’ [place of worship], which the Babylonians and the Romans did.” (Ibid, p. 76)

Palestine
Huzoorra said it was strange that when European authors wrote books, they did not object to the Babylonians and the Romans, but they abuse and object to the Muslims, who respected the “mosques” of the Jews.

He said:

“Now, when Palestine went into the hands of the Muslims, it could be questioned that in this case it did not remain in the hands of the Jews or the [followers of the] Mosaic Law, and so what is the mystery to this?

“However, if we ponder, this is a baseless objection because sometimes a dispute arises when some inheritors emerge, then the actual inheritors say that we are the real inheritors. The same is the case here.

“The fact of the matter is that it was God who granted the land – the case was presented before God Almighty [and He was asked,] ‘Are these Muslims the inheritors of Mosesas and Davidas, or the Jews and the Christians?’

“Thus, the Court [of Allah] decided that now the Muslims are the [true] inheritors of Mosesas and Davidas. Hence, the inheritance was granted to them.” (Anwar-ul-Ulum, Vol. 25, pp. 77-78)

Concerning the return of the Jews to Palestine, Huzoorra said:

“Then, further [Allah the Almighty] states:

فَاِذَا‭ ‬جَآءَ‭ ‬وَعۡدُ‭ ‬الۡاٰخِرَةِ‭ ‬جِئۡنَا‭ ‬بِكُمۡ‭ ‬لَفِيۡفًا

“Meaning, ‘And when [the time of] the promise of the latter days comes, We shall bring you together [out of various peoples].’ (Surah Bani Israil, Ch.17: V.105)

“[In other words] Then a time would come when the Jews would be settled in Palestine by gathering them from around the world. That time has come now [the establishment of Israel], when the Jews have arrived here.” (Ibid, p. 78)

Huzoorra further said:

“Some people say that after the arrival of the Jews [to Palestine], Islam has been abrogated. Meaning that according to them, the argument for the abrogation of Islam is that as the ‘righteous servants’ were promised to get the occupation [of Palestine], so when the Muslims have lost the occupation, then the Muslims are no longer the ‘righteous servants’ […]

“But if the temporary occupations of the Babylonians and the Romans – which lasted for one hundred years and almost three hundred years respectively, were not termed as the sign for abrogation of the Message [Law] of Mosesas and Davidas, then at this instance […] how can it be termed as the sign for Islam’s abrogation?

“Instead it is a sign for the truthfulness of Islam, because it had prophesied itself that the Muslims would lose the occupation, and the Jews would come back [to Palestine]. The return of the Jews is not the sign of Islam’s abrogation; in fact, it is a sign of Islam’s truthfulness […]

“In regard to the question that how did it remain in the hands of the ‘righteous servants’, the answer is that in the past, [the Muslims] had temporarily lost the occupation [of Palestine] twice as well and have lost it now too. And when we say ‘temporarily’, it necessarily means that the Muslims will again go to Palestine and will rule it. It necessarily means that the Jews will again have to leave it and it necessarily means that Allah the Almighty will enable the Muslims to defeat this whole order which is being established with the help of the UNO and America, and once again let the Muslims settle here […]

“So, I say ‘temporarily’ because there is a [Quranic] injunction ‘My righteous servants shall inherit the land’ [Ch.21: V.106] […] So, the ‘righteous servants’ of God Almighty, the people of Muhammad Rasulullahsa, will surely go to this country [Palestine].

“Neither can America’s atomic bombs and H-bombs do anything, nor can the help of Russia do anything. This is God’s decree, which will come to pass eventually, no matter how much power the world exerts.” (Anwar-ul-Ulum, Vol. 25, pp. 78-81)

Now a question arises as to how long this land will remain in the occupation of the Jews. Hazrat Musleh-e-Maudra has provided an answer to this as well:

“There is no doubt that the Holy Quran and ahadith tell us that the Jews will settle in Palestine once more, but it has not been stated that they will settle here forever. The permanent occupation of Palestine has been decreed for the ‘righteous servants’ […] The first [part of the] prophecy of Allah the Almighty has been fulfilled in this way that the Jews have announced their independent government there, but if we will not follow the path of righteousness, then [the fulfilment of] the prophecy [of the Jews’ occupation] will continue for a long time, and will prove to be a dangerous setback for Islam.

“So, we need to minimise the duration of [fulfilment of] this prophecy through our actions, sacrifices, unity, prayers and cries, and bring the era of Muhammad Rasulullah’ssa government over Palestine, as close as possible.” (Al-Kufru Millatun Wahidah, Anwar-ul-Ulum, Vol. 19, p. 574) [/b]

CC: TenQ
Antichristian
legalwolf
Other abduls

I've been under a ban because I posted Evidences from Islamic sources.

Not withstanding, Muslims are the only religious group I know that will throw both their God Allah and his prophet Muhammad under the bus in order to win an argument.

Qur'an 5:21
"O my people (Children of Israel), enter the Holy Land which Allah has assigned to you and do not turn back [from fighting in Allah's cause] and [thus] become losers."


Now, According to them this statement of Allah has been abrogated by their modern sentiments.

Sorry,
I can't post the other Evidences from your historical sources as they've earned me a ban a least twice now.

Ohyoudidnt:
Perharps you can explain why Al-Tabari contradicts himself.
According to Al-Tabari, all four of Abu Bakr's children were born during the pre-Islamic period from his two wives. [Tarikhu'l-umam wa'l-mamlu'k, Al-Tabari (died 922), Vol. 4, p. 50, Arabic, Dara'l-fikr, Beirut, 1979]

A young Aisha will have been born after Muhammad salallahu alaihi was salam received his first revelation.
Fatimah (ra) was born at the time the Ka`bah was rebuilt, when the Prophet (pbuh) was 35 years old... she (Fatimah) was five years older that Aisha (ra). (Al-isabah fi tamyizi'l-sahabah, Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, Vol. 4, P. 377, Maktabatu'l-Riyadh al-haditha, al-Riyadh, 1978).So, based on Ibn Hajar, Fathima was born when Prophet was 35 years old and Aisha was 5 years younger than Fathima. If Ibn Hajar’s statement is factual, Aisha was born when Prophet was forty years old (Prophet’s age at the birth of Fathima PLUS 5 years = 40 years). If Aisha was married to Prophet when he was 52 years old, Aisha’ age at marriage would be 12 years {(Prophet’s age at the time of marriage MINUS Prophet’s age at Aisha’s birth (52 yrs – 40 years = 12 yrs)}.
CONCLUSION: Ibn Hajar, Tabari an Ibn Hisham and Ibn Humbal contradict each other. So, the marriage of Aisha at seven years of age is a myth.

According to the generally accepted tradition, Aisha (ra) was born about eight years before Hijrah. But according to another narrative in Bukhari (kitabu'l-tafseer) Aisha (ra) is reported to have said that at the time Surah Al-Qamar, the 54th chapter of the Qur'an, was revealed, "I was a young girl". The 54th surah of the Qur'an was revealed nine years before Hijrah. According to this tradition, Aisha (ra) had not only been born before the revelation of the referred surah, but was actually a young girl (jariyah), not an infant (sibyah) at that time. Obviously, if this narrative is held to be true, it is in clear contradiction with the narratives reported by Hisham ibn `urwah. I see absolutely no reason that after the comments of the experts on the narratives of Hisham ibn `urwah, why we should not accept this narrative to be more accurate.
According to a number of narratives, Aisha (ra) accompanied the Muslims in the battle of Badr and Uhud. Furthermore, it is also reported in books of hadith and history that no one under the age of 15 years was allowed to take part in the battle of Uhud. All the boys below 15 years of age were sent back. Aisha's (ra) participation in the battle of Badr and Uhud clearly indicate that she was not nine or ten years old at that time. After all, women used to accompany men to the battle fields to help them, not to be a burden on them.

According to almost all the historians Asma (ra), the elder sister of Aisha (ra) was ten years older than Aisha (ra). It is reported in Taqri'bu'l-tehzi'b as well as Al-bidayah wa'l-nihayah that Asma (ra) died in 73 hijrah when she was 100 years old. Now, obviously if Asma (ra) was 100 years old in 73 hijrah she should have been 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah. If Asma (ra) was 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah, Aisha (ra) should have been 17 or 18 years old at that time. Thus, Aisha (ra), if she got married in 1 AH (after hijrah) or 2 AH, was between 18 to 20 years old at the time of her marriage.
Tabari in his treatise on Islamic history, while mentioning Abu Bakr (ra) reports that Abu Bakr had four children and all four were born during the Jahiliyyah -- the pre Islamic period. Obviously, if Aisha (ra) was born in the period of jahiliyyah, she could not have been less than 14 years in 1 AH -- the time she most likely got married.


According to a narrative reported by Ahmad ibn Hanbal, after the death of Khadijah (ra), when Khaulah (ra) came to the Prophet (pbuh) advising him to marry again, the Prophet (pbuh) asked her regarding the choices that she had in her mind. Khaulah said: "You can marry a virgin (bikr) or a woman who has already been married (thayyib)". When the Prophet (pbuh) asked the identity of the bikr (virgin), Khaulah proposed Aisha's (ra) name.
All those who know the Arabic language, are aware that the word "Bikr" in the Arabic language is not used for an immature nine-year-old girl. The correct word for a young playful girl, as stated earlier is "Jariyah". "Bikr" on the other hand, is used for an unmarried lady without conjugal experience prior to marriage, as we understand the word, virgin, in English. Therefore, obviously a nine-year-old girl is not a "lady" (Bikr). (Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Vol. 6, p. .210, Arabic, Dar Ihya al-turath al-`arabi, Beirut.)


The Battle of Uhud was fought in 3 AH. Describing the battlefield, Hazrat Anasra is reported to have said:

وَلَقَدْ رَأَيْتُ عَائِشَةَ بِنْتَ أَبِي بَكْرٍ، وَأُمَّ سُلَيْمٍ وَإِنَّهُمَا لَمُشَمِّرَتَانِ، أَرَى خَدَمَ سُوقِهِمَا تَنْقُزَانِ القِرَبَ، وَقَالَ غَيْرُهُ تَنْقُلاَنِ القِرَبَ عَلَى مُتُونِهِمَا، ثُمَّ تُفْرِغَانِهِ فِي أَفْوَاهِ القَوْمِ، ثُمَّ تَرْجِعَانِ فَتَمْلَآَنِهَا، ثُمَّ تَجِيئَانِ فَتُفْرِغَانِهَا فِي أَفْوَاهِ القَوْمِ

“I saw Aisha, daughter of Abu Bakr, and Umm Sulaim with their robes tucked up so that their anklets were visible. They hurriedly walked, carrying water skins on their backs, pouring water in the mouths of the wounded, would go back to fill the skins again and return to pour water in the mouths of people.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Kitab al-Jihad wa al-Asir)

What will disabuse your mind from copulatory relations and Islam? Hope it isn't indicative of your normal line of thinking?

A 13-14 yr old girl could play with a doll. You should also know of some older teens and early twenties that still have teddy bears perhaps from a younger age

1. Evidence ABOUND from Aisha herself that she was six or seven when she married your prophet.
2. Her evidence is 700 times stronger than anyone else's testimony.
3. The Muslims who quoted Aisha or testified that she was that young has NOTHING to gain by saying that their revered prophet married a prepubescent girl.
4. Any different opinion is attempt to to colour your prophet in a modern good light.


Except you are acknowledging that Muslims are the greatest LIARs among men. How can we TRUST anything that come from Muslims?


Finally,
One of the ways of finding out the truth of a narration is to establish the MOTIVE of the uncomfortable event.

Like: If Jesus wasn't Crucified naked on the Cross, why would the Christians say he was crucified thus? What would have been their motives. It would have been more glorifying for them to claim that Jesus dissappeared but they didn't : Why!?

Jaybuoy:
You, sir, have said it all.

Soon, there'll be a ceasefire in the current phase. Only for another conflict to start in the West Bank or elsewhere in a couple of months. Just an endless cycle openly sponsored by Iran.

The sentiment is even beyond Iran. Alla Muslims are waiting for the day that all Jews would be exterminated from the surface of the earth : and until that happens, happens all peace deals would be temporary at best

Ohyoudidnt:
Ok. Perharps there should be records of their views against such marriage. Anyway It is important to recognize that the events between Muhammad and Banu Qurayzah occurred in a context of war and self-defense against external threats in which loyalty and trust were paramount. The subsequent controversy surrounding the event should be understood within the framework of the difficult choices faced during times of conflict and the complex relations between tribes.

Banu Qurayzah was one of the Jewish tribes in Medina and had initially agreed to the Constitution of Medina. However, tensions began to arise between them and the Muslim community due to alleged acts of treachery during the Battle of the Trench, a crucial conflict that posed a significant threat to the Muslims in Medina.

Upon settling in Medina, Muhammad established the Constitution of Medina, a social contract that included both Muslim and Jewish tribes. This agreement allowed for religious freedom and cooperation among different communities.


This is not a case of giving you research points but advising you inorder to disabuse your mind of the false narratives. There's a 2 hour video on video wrt this however how many have such time resource to watch that.

According to the generally accepted tradition, Aisha (ra) was born about eight years before Hijrah. But according to another narrative in Bukhari (kitabu'l-tafseer) Aisha (ra) is reported to have said that at the time Surah Al-Qamar, the 54th chapter of the Qur'an, was revealed, "I was a young girl". The 54th surah of the Qur'an was revealed nine years before Hijrah. According to this tradition, Aisha (ra) had not only been born before the revelation of the referred surah, but was actually a young girl (jariyah), not an infant (sibyah) at that time. Obviously, if this narrative is held to be true, it is in clear contradiction with the narratives reported by Hisham ibn `urwah. I see absolutely no reason that after the comments of the experts on the narratives of Hisham ibn `urwah, why we should not accept this narrative to be more accurate.

The hadith in Sunan an-Nasa'i 3379 for instance due to the narrator Abi Maryam in the line of transmitters it can be by scholars of Hadith have graded weak. He also quoted hadith in Musnad Ahmad.

According to a number of narratives, Aisha (ra) accompanied the Muslims in the battle of Badr and Uhud. It is also reported in books of hadith and history that no one under the age of 15 years was allowed to take part in the battle of Uhud. All the boys below 15 years of age were sent back. Aisha's (ra) participation in the battle of Badr and Uhud clearly indicate that she was not nine or ten years old at that time. After all, women used to accompany men to the battle fields to help them, not to be a burden on them.

Asma (ra), the elder sister of Aisha (ra) was ten years older than Aisha (ra). It is reported in Taqri'bu'l-tehzi'b as well as Al-bidayah wa'l-nihayah that Asma (ra) died in 73 hijrah when she was 100 years old. Now, obviously if Asma (ra) was 100 years old in 73 hijrah she should have been 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah. If Asma (ra) was 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah, Aisha (ra) should have been 17 or 18 years old at that time. Thus, Aisha (ra), if she got married in 1 AH (after hijrah) or 2 AH, was between 18 to 20 years old at the time of her marriage.

Enjoy your day.

I know that modern Muslims are struggling to find excuses to show that Aisha was a teenager by the time she married Mohammed unfortunately the Evidences stack up against this.
1. She grew up knowing her father and family as Muslims.
2. She played with dolls and swings as at the time of her marriage to Mohammed
3. When she was accused of adultery, part of the excuses given for her was that she was still a child
4. There were even hadiths which spoke of her being sloppy as a child which was forgivable.
5. Aisha herself narrated many hadiths about herself which are not contested
6. There is story about Abu Bakr not wanting to give out her little daughter to Mohammed (but he didn't have much choice)
7. There are too many hadiths that agree that Aisha was between 6 & 7 year old when she married Mohammed and 9 year old when the marriage was consummated
8. Many Muslims actually believe and follow the sunnah that Aisha was 9 when the marriage was consummated thus you see them also following suit
9. The Qur'an did not FORBID marriage to prepubescent girls and in fact, a Muslim is given rules about divorce of prepubescent wives in the Qur'an by Allah.

It is not up to us to choose what to believe or what not to believe about our Religion. It is up to us to accept the truth as it happened even if we are not comfortable with it.

Jesus was crucified while stark naked on the cross. It happened even if we don't like it!
It would have been nicer to invent a story of how Jesus dissappeared and someone else was crucified in his place: but this would be a lame lie!


Have a nice day my friend!

Jaybuoy:
Seen. This just supports my view that this is one of their costliest losses in recent times, and it's still rising.

You're right that Israel doesn't hold back when it goes to war but they will hate that they left themselves open to an attack on their own soil. Which is my original point.

For example, the biggest losers of 9/11 were the Americans, even if they later destroyed Al-Qaeda. That's why they hold a memorial every year.

It is a pity that this conflict doesn't have a solution.

1. To the Israelis,
Israel is their ancestral land and they have come to repossess it.

2. To the Palestinians,
a. It is a religious war and Israel must leave the land or be exterminated
b. They have no other place they can call home apart from this place.
c. Allah had promised a final battle where the Muslims will defeat and kill all the Jews and even the trees and rocks will aid Muslims to fight the Jews

This is why till the end of the world, there won't be peace in Israel.

In fact according to Bible prophecies, the only one who can guarantee peace is the Antichrist and the peace would be cancelled by the same antichrist.

Jaybuoy:
Whichever way this goes, Israel would be at the losing end of this particular phase of the conflict.

If senior military officers have been captured, as touted, Israel will have no option but to negotiate prisoner swaps.

Either way, this crises will continue for another 100 years.

Modified: Nigerians and their penchant for insults and emotions, instead of having knowledgeable conversations. No wonder your leaders take you for a ride.

The death toll for Israel alone is already at 700, easily one of the most they've ever lost in a conflict, and you think that's not enough losses for them? This is not your government that doesn't value a single life.

Israel lost this phase of the conflict because they're only reacting to the damage Hamas has caused, this has never been their way. Usually, Israel intercepts danger before it crosses their border.

Even Israelis are wondering how all their intelligence and military organisations missed out on an attack of this magnitude. No amount of aggression on Gaza will bring back lives lost so they remain the biggest losers.

Worst case is that they are at risk of losing the agreements they had with Arab neighbours like Jordan and Egypt if this conflict spirals out of control. Even the Saudi agreement has been placed on hold.

Ignorant people said Israel doesn't swap prisoners, I laugh you. Anyway, like I said, the Israeli -Palestinian conflict isn't ending anytime soon.

Also, I'm for neither side. Only stated the obvious.

Masterito Gabbriell Dragunov TenQ

Just check this out

obembet:
Here is the total deaths and Injuries during Israel/Palestinian war since 2008 according to UN

2008 :
Palestine 🇵🇸: 3,202
Israel 🇮🇱: 853

2009:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 7,460
Israel 🇮🇱: 123

2010:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 1,659
Israel 🇮🇱: 185

2011:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 2,260
Israel 🇮🇱: 136

2012:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 4,936
Israel 🇮🇱: 578

2013:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 4,031
Israel 🇮🇱: 157

2014:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 19,860
Israel 🇮🇱: 2,796

2015:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 14,813
Israel 🇮🇱: 339

2016:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 3,572
Israel 🇮🇱: 222

2017:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 8,526
Israel 🇮🇱: 174

2018:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 31,558
Israel 🇮🇱: 130

2019:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 15,628
Israel 🇮🇱: 133

2020:
Palestine 🇵🇸: 2,781
Israel 🇮🇱: 61

Source: @TheGlobal_Index

AntiChristian:
May God deliver Palestine from Israel!

May God break their backbone and that of all their supporters!

Aamin!

Sorry

Qur'an 5:21
"O my people, enter the Holy Land which Allah has assigned to you and do not turn back [from fighting in Allah's cause] and [thus] become losers."

You can see that you Muslims are now wiser than Allah.

Or,
Has the verse been abrogated!?

Ohyoudidnt:
I will like to know this story. How they challenged him about 'marrying and minor' and were slaughtered.

There is no story
Only a fool will challenge Mohammed after what he did to Banu Qurayza who surrendered to him after 25 days of siege!
Mohammed the best of mankind and the Merciful was very Merciful unto them.

Ohyoudidnt:
Don't end this yet or are you shying away from the research points I gave you?

It is not up to you to give me research points. It is up to you to present your Evidences!

Please let's end this now. There would be other topics next time.

Peace!

Ohyoudidnt:
Assuming he even did this which he didn't how come his enemies and antagonist never took him up on it? Maybe you should widen the scope to this as a means of validation. Find records of those who confronted Muhammad s.a.w regarding his marriage to Aisha mabpwh in his lifetime.

The Jews who tried it got slaughtered like sacrificial ram.



Please let's end this now. There would be other topics next time.

You have proved yourself fairly knowledgeable in Islam. My only issue with you is that you seem to believe the Dawah people when they tell you things about Islam.

Peace!

Ohyoudidnt:
So many hadith saying the same thing from a faulty source does not make it true or correct.
You too have joined the line of misled narrators.

I have found you other instances WITHOUT your favourite scapegoat Hisham ibn Urwa, so, what is your next excuse?

An-Nasa'i 3379
An-Nasa'i 3258
An-Nasa'i 3257
Ibn Majah Hadith 1877
I even found an achive by At-Tabari
(The History of al-Tabari [Ta’rikh al-rusul wa’l-muluk], vol. IX, SUNY Press, pp. 129-130)


I am not a narrator of any hadith, my job is to show you the things you wished were buried ( so that you can rewrite the history of Mohammed and his Allah!)

Ohyoudidnt:
Assuming he even did this which he didn't how come his enemies and antagonist never took him up on it? Maybe you should widen the scope to this as a means of validation. Find records of those who confronted Muhammad s.a.w regarding his marriage to Aisha mabpwh in his lifetime.

I've asked you a number of times now:
Present your SAHIH hadith that claimed that Aisha married Mohammed as a teenager.

I am still waiting!

Ohyoudidnt:
By the emboldened are you now asking?

All the narrators of the hadith saying Aisha was that young are Iraqis who had heard it from Hisham. Allama Kandhulvi says that the words spoken in connection with Hazrat Aisha’s age were tissa ashara, meaning 19, when Hisham only heard (or remembered), tissa, meaning nine.

Many authentic hadiths also show that Hisham’s narration is incongruous with several historical facts about the Prophet’s life, on which there is consensus.

Is it not strange that Hisham ibn `urwah lived the first seventy one years of his life in Medinah and had students such as Malik ibn Anas under his tutilage who didn't narate same.

The hadith Ibn Majah 1877 is on Authority of Abu Ishaq of Baghdad who was Caliphs in what year?

Ahmad ibn Sanan told us, Abu Ahmad told us, Asiail told us, on the authority of Abu Ishaq, on the authority of Abu Ubaidah, on the authority of Abdullah, peace be upon him, The daughter of a seventh is built with it, and it is a nine daughter.

I have found you other instances WITHOUT your favourite scapegoat Hisham ibn Urwa, so, what is your next excuse?

Evidences abound that Mohammed had sex with a prepubescent girl. It is recorded in your religious books.

I can understand that you are embarrassed about it. Sorry

Ohyoudidnt:
Okay this one doesn't have Ibn Hisham as one of its transmitters but out of all four sources of evidence you presented only 25% is without a questionable transmitter; is this not a FAILURE?

Let me direct you.
Aisha r.a had an elder sister, do research on her and the age gap between them to help you determine Aisha's age.

So many hadiths saying the same thing.

The worst you can call these hadiths is Mursal hadiths, unfortunately for you, they do not have broken chains of reference.

Mohammed had sex with a prepubescent girl. It is recorded in your books.

Or did TenQ manufacture these hadiths!?



I have asked you to present your hadith which claimed that Aisha married Mohammed as a teenager to no avail.

I don't waiting!

Ohyoudidnt,



Do you know what at-Tabari said!?


Al-Tabari ,
Ismail K. Poonawala, ed, The History of al-Tabari [Ta’rikh al-rusul wa’l-muluk], vol. IX, SUNY Press, pp. 129-130,
Umm Ruman said that al-Mut‘im b. ‘Adi had asked ‘A’ishah’s hand for his son, but Abu Bakr had not promised anything. Abu Bakr left and went to Mut‘im while his wife, mother of the son for whom he had asked ‘A’ishah’s hand, was with him. She said, "O son of Abu Quhafah, perhaps we could marry our son to your daughter if you could make him leave his religion and bring him in to the religion which you practice." He turned to her husband al-Mut‘im and said, "What is she saying?" He replied, "She says [what you have heard]." Abu Bakr left, [realizing that] God had [just] removed the problem he had in his mind. He said to Khawlah, "Call the Messenger of God." She called him and he came. Abu Bakr married (‘Aishah) to him when she was [only] six years old.


https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Aisha

Ohyoudidnt:
What is Sahih? That it has a verifiable line of transmission?

The authenticity of a hadith report is "best measured by the reliability of the transmitters (known as rāwī pl. ruwāt) of the report.

I have shown you the existence of Hisham in the line of transmission of all the hadith you shared.

Verdict
Your evidence on the age of Aisha is a false and your argument discarded

Fear of confronting the truth will not let you speak the truth about the hadiths below

1. Sunan an-Nasa'i Hadith 3379
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
"The Messenger of Allah married me when I was six , and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine. "

2. Sunan an-Nasa'i Hadith 3258
It was narrated from 'Aishah that the Messenger of Allah married her when she was nine and he died when she was eighteen years old.

3. Sunan an-Nasa'i Hadith 3257
It was narrated that Abu 'Ubaidah said: "Aishah said: 'The Messenger of Allah married me when I was nine and I lived with him for nine years.'"


I have found you other instances WITHOUT your favourite scapegoat Hisham ibn Urwa, so, what is your next excuse?

Ohyoudidnt,

Here is another

1. Sunan Ibn Majah Hadith 1877
It was narrated that:
Abdullah said: “The Prophet married Aishah when she was seven years old, and consummated the marriage with her when she was nine, and he passed away when she was eighteen.”

Are you now convinced!?
Tell your Dawah fabricators that the truth always prevail! and lies will always be uncovered

Your favourite scapegoat Hisham ibn Urwa is not here too, so, what is your next excuse?

Ohyoudidnt:
Hisham everywhere!

But they are graded as SAHIH!

Case dismissed.
However, so that you will not have any mouth to talk

There are many ways to kill the snake of Islamic deception

1. Sunan an-Nasa'i Hadith 3379
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
"The Messenger of Allah married me when I was six, and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine."

2. Sunan an-Nasa'i Hadith 3258
It was narrated from 'Aishah that the Messenger of Allah married her when she was nine and he died when she was eighteen years old.

3. Sunan an-Nasa'i Hadith 3257
It was narrated that Abu 'Ubaidah said: "Aishah said: 'The Messenger of Allah married me when I was nine and I lived with him for nine years.'"


I have found you other instances WITHOUT your favourite scapegoat Hisham ibn Urwa, so, what is your next excuse?

Are you now convinced!?
Tell your Dawah fabricators that the truth always prevail! and lies will always be uncovered!

Jaybuoy:
Whichever way this goes, Israel would be at the losing end of this particular phase of the conflict.

If senior military officers have been captured, as touted, Israel will have no option but to negotiate prisoner swaps.

Either way, this crises will continue for another 100 years.

You seem not to know Israel. They are not Christians than can be reasonable with the enemy. They would pound Hamas until Hamas sues for peace. Unfortunately, this time, they wouldn't listen until they've leveled almost everywhere

Ohyoudidnt:
Find me or informing of the progress or non progress in your research?
Arabic text of Bukhari 5130
حَدَّثَنَا مُعَلَّى بْنُ أَسَدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا وُهَيْبٌ، عَنْ هِشَامِ بْنِ عُرْوَةَ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم تَزَوَّجَهَا وَهْىَ بِنْتُ سِتِّ سِنِينَ، وَبَنَى بِهَا وَهْىَ بِنْتُ تِسْعِ سِنِينَ‏.‏ قَالَ هِشَامٌ وَأُنْبِئْتُ أَنَّهَا كَانَتْ عِنْدَهُ تِسْعَ سِنِينَ

Also check:
Narrated Ibn `Umar:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "We are an illiterate nation; we neither write, nor know accounts. The month is like this and this, i.e. sometimes of 29 days and sometimes of thirty days

The hadith you quoted was narrated by the father of your scapegoat Hisham ibn Urwa.
He was just unfortunate to be in the chain of narration.


How about this hadith

Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3894
Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.


Sunan Abi Dawud 2121
Narrated 'Aishah:
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) married me when I was seven years old. The narrator Sulaiman said: or Six years. He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old.



Is Hisham ibn Urwa also in the chain of narration?
So, what's your excuse now?

Ohyoudidnt:
It seems you end your research in haste.

Most of the Hadith narrations mentioning her age was nine are reported through Hisham ibn Urwa while living in Iraq, where Hisham ibn Urwa is reported to have relocated after living in Madinah for seventy-one years. It is reported in one of the most well known books on the life and reliability of the narrators of the traditions ascribed to the Muhammad reports that Yaqub ibn Shaibah said, “narratives reported by Hisham are reliable except those that are reported through the people of Iraq”. It further states that Malik ibn Anas objected on those narratives of Hisham, which were reported through people of Iraq. Another book on the narrators of the traditions of the Muhammad reports that when he was old, Hisham’s memory suffered quite badly.” Shaykh Dr. Ridhwan ibn Muhammad Saleem.

Sunan an-Nasa'i 3256
أَخْبَرَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ آدَمَ، عَنْ عَبْدَةَ، عَنْ هِشَامٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، قَالَتْ تَزَوَّجَنِي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَأَنَا بِنْتُ سِتٍّ وَدَخَلَ عَلَىَّ وَأَنَا بِنْتُ تِسْعِ سِنِينَ وَكُنْتُ أَلْعَبُ بِالْبَنَاتِ

Muhammad ibn al-Nadr ibn Musawar informed us, he said: Ja`far ibn Sulaiman told us, on the authority of Hisham ibn Urwa, on the authority of his father, on the authority of Aisha, she said: He married I was with the Messenger of God, may God bless him and grant him peace, for seven years, and he came to me for nine years.(as automatically translated)
Emphasis on sanad shows Hisham.

Do same for all your hadith on Aisha's age

Let me find you another reference

Sahih al-Bukhari 5134
Narrated `Aisha:
that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death).

What you are saying is that
Bukhari is wrong
Muslim is wrong
An-Nasa'i is wrong
Abi Dawud is wrong.
None of them did their due diligence of selecting Sahih hadiths and Hisham ibn Urwa was the one who narrated false hadiths to all of them!?

So,
Whoes hadith is the authentic one?
Can you post it?


Are you aware that your scapegoat Hisham ibn Urwa did NOT narrate the hadith in Bukhari AND Sunan Abi Dawud?
So, non of what other excuse do you have?

Ohyoudidnt:
You definitely are fixated in your prejudice and actual dislike however:

1. I requested you do research yourself and explore the evidence for an against a marriage at age 6 or 9 vs older ages of marriage.

2. Note that the Prophet married the former slave Zaid to Zaynab.
- Zaynab, her brother and other family members did not want her to be married to a former slave.
- The Prophet insisted that they marry each other, to break and put a stop to the backward Jahiliya (pre-Islamic ignorance) culture of marriage being between certain classes only.
-Zaynab eventually accepted to marry Zaid
-The marriage didn’t and couldn't last long since there was a lot of arguments and “quarrels” at home. As stated, the scholars mentioned that Zaynab used to bring up her lineage and Zayd being a former slave. That she was from a noble family while Zayd was a former slave. These talks and others discouraged Zayd to stay with her any longer.
-Zayd went to Prophet Muhammed pbuh wanting to divorce her due to the problems at home, the Prophet ordered him to stay married to her and to fear God.
Zayd went back and forth for a while (weeks or months) every-time complaining about his marriage and every time the Prophet pbuh exclaimed and told him to fear God and keep his wife. This is regarding your false claim Muhammad pbuh did not make efforts to resolve their differences. Do you feel Zaynab too didn't complain of the marriage?
Eventually, it was too much for Zayd and divorce followed.

Muhammed pbuh was ordered by God to marry Zaynab, in his heart, he did not want to marry her because she was married to his adopted son also had he wanted to he could have married himself before she married Zayd.
He was bothered about what people would say about him. God sent down revelation that he should fear Him rather than the people in the society. The marriage went ahead as it was ordered by God Himself, and Muhammed had no say to disobey the order.

The Prophet’s marriage to Zainab was done to break the taboo in the Arab society that adopted son’s are real sons which Allah says are mere sayings from their mouths. The revelation had a big impact in the society, who was going to break that ancient tradition?

Well if Allah allowed marrying captive women I believe the God of the Bible clearly subscribes to this with clear instruction to kill the husbands of these women before marrying them. Differentiate between prostitution and marriage and be realistic about the transformation of a culture.

Prayers submitted or presented must be a display of imperfections in translations. The statement means these prayers will be beneficial to him.

Q59:10And those who come after them will pray, “Our Lord! Forgive us and our fellow believers who preceded us in faith, and do not allow bitterness into our hearts towards those who believe. Our Lord! Indeed, You are Ever Gracious, Most Merciful

Q47:19 So, know well, O Prophet,that there is no god worthy of worship except Allah. And seek forgiveness for your shortcomings and for the sins of the believing men and women. For Allah fully knows your movements and places of rest ˹O people

3. Not limiting wives to four, I Allah says ANY believing woman can give herself to the prophet of Islam
The Almighty Allah gave permission to Mohammed to have sex with ANY woman in his domain.

Qur'an 33:50
O prophet, we indeed have made lawful (for sex) for you
*your Wives whom you have paid their dowry
*And your Slaves whom you rightfully possess from among who Allah has given you
*The Daughters of your Paternal Uncles
*And The Daughters of your Paternal Aunts
*And the Daughters of your Maternal Uncles
*And the Daughters of your Maternal Aunts who emigrated with you
*And Any Believing Woman who gives herself willingly to the prophet for SEX
* This is a privilege for you only, not for the (rest of) believers - We are Aware of that which We enjoined upon them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess (their slaves) - that you may be free from blame, for Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.


Qur'an 33:51
Thou mayest defer (the turn of) any of them that thou pleasest, and thou mayest receive any thou pleasest: and there is no blame on thee if thou invite one whose (turn) thou hadst set aside. This were nigher to the cooling of their eyes, the prevention of their grief, and their satisfaction - that of all of them - with that which thou hast to give them: and Allah knows (all) that is in your hearts: and Allah is All-Knowing, Most Forbearing.



Is this Hadith Wrong?

Sahih al-Bukhari 4788
Narrated Aisha:
I used to look down upon those ladies who had given themselves to Allah's Messenger(ﷺ) and I used to say, "Can a lady give herself (to a man)?" But when Allah revealed: "You (O Muhammad) can postpone (the turn of) whom you will of them (your wives), and you may receive any of them whom you will; and there is no blame on you if you invite one whose turn you have set aside (temporarily).' (33.51) I said (to the Prophet), "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires."

You will see that the context of Qur'an 33:50-51 is NOT marriage but just sex.


4. Allah allowed prostitution in your Quran? Is it untrue that the Prophet of allah Mohammed allowed Mutah, then forbade it, but then allowed it later to forbid it?

Are these hadiths Maudu or Daif?

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 13 :
Narrated by 'Abdullah
We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, "Shall we get ourselves castrated?" He forbade us that and then allowed us to marry women with a temporary contract and recited to us: 'O you who believe ! Make not unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, but commit no transgression.' (5.87)


Sahih Muslim 1404a
Abdullah (b. Mas’ud) reported: We were on an expedition with Allah’s Messenger and we had no women with us. We said: Should we not have ourselves castrated? He (the Holy Prophet) forbade us to do so He then granted us permission that we should contract temporary marriage for a stipulated period giving her a garment, and ‘Abdullah then recited this verse: ‘Those who believe do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you, and do not transgress. Allah does not like trangressers”


Please in Islam, can what kind of Marriage is made with Temporary Contract?

This kind of marriage is called Mutah (Allah's Halal type of Prostitution)


I have shown you that أُجُورَهُنَّ is the wages paid to prostitutes in context to Qur'an 4:24 according to Allah much later abrogated by Mohammed for a reason best known to him.

How can you be sure this is not another satanic verse?

Ohyoudidnt:
You definitely are fixated in your prejudice and actual dislike however:

1. I requested you do research yourself and explore the evidence for an against a marriage at age 6 or 9 vs older ages of marriage.

2. Note that the Prophet married the former slave Zaid to Zaynab.
- Zaynab, her brother and other family members did not want her to be married to a former slave.
- The Prophet insisted that they marry each other, to break and put a stop to the backward Jahiliya (pre-Islamic ignorance) culture of marriage being between certain classes only.
-Zaynab eventually accepted to marry Zaid
-The marriage didn’t and couldn't last long since there was a lot of arguments and “quarrels” at home. As stated, the scholars mentioned that Zaynab used to bring up her lineage and Zayd being a former slave. That she was from a noble family while Zayd was a former slave. These talks and others discouraged Zayd to stay with her any longer.
-Zayd went to Prophet Muhammed pbuh wanting to divorce her due to the problems at home, the Prophet ordered him to stay married to her and to fear God.
Zayd went back and forth for a while (weeks or months) every-time complaining about his marriage and every time the Prophet pbuh exclaimed and told him to fear God and keep his wife. This is regarding your false claim Muhammad pbuh did not make efforts to resolve their differences. Do you feel Zaynab too didn't complain of the marriage?
Eventually, it was too much for Zayd and divorce followed.

Muhammed pbuh was ordered by God to marry Zaynab, in his heart, he did not want to marry her because she was married to his adopted son also had he wanted to he could have married himself before she married Zayd.
He was bothered about what people would say about him. God sent down revelation that he should fear Him rather than the people in the society. The marriage went ahead as it was ordered by God Himself, and Muhammed had no say to disobey the order.

The Prophet’s marriage to Zainab was done to break the taboo in the Arab society that adopted son’s are real sons which Allah says are mere sayings from their mouths. The revelation had a big impact in the society, who was going to break that ancient tradition?

Well if Allah allowed marrying captive women I believe the God of the Bible clearly subscribes to this with clear instruction to kill the husbands of these women before marrying them. Differentiate between prostitution and marriage and be realistic about the transformation of a culture.

Prayers submitted or presented must be a display of imperfections in translations. The statement means these prayers will be beneficial to him.

Q59:10And those who come after them will pray, “Our Lord! Forgive us and our fellow believers who preceded us in faith, and do not allow bitterness into our hearts towards those who believe. Our Lord! Indeed, You are Ever Gracious, Most Merciful

Q47:19 So, know well, O Prophet,that there is no god worthy of worship except Allah. And seek forgiveness for your shortcomings and for the sins of the believing men and women. For Allah fully knows your movements and places of rest ˹O people

1. Mohammed married a prepubescent girl
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3256
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
"The Messenger of Allah married me when I was seven years old, and he consummated the marriage with me when I was nine."
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3378
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
"The Messenger of Allah married me when I was six, and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine, and I used to play with dolls."

Sunan an-Nasa'i 3257
It was narrated that Abu 'Ubaidah said:
"Aishah said: 'The Messenger of Allah married me when I was nine and I lived with him for nine years.'"


Sunan Abi Dawud 2121
Narrated 'Aishah:
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) married me when I was seven years old. The narrator Sulaiman said: or Six years. He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old.

Sahih Muslim 1422 b
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported:
Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

2. Shameless one who took over the Wife of his Adopted son Zaid

Sahih Bukhari 7420
Narrated Anas:
Zaid bin Haritha came to the Prophet (ﷺ) complaining about his wife. The Prophet (ﷺ) kept on saying (to him), "Be afraid of Allah and keep your wife." Aisha said, "If Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) were to conceal anything (of the Qur'an he would have concealed this Verse." Zainab used to boast before the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) and used to say, "You were given in marriage by your families, while I was married (to the Prophet) by Allah from over seven Heavens." And Thabit recited, "The Verse:-- 'But (O Muhammad) you did hide in your heart that which Allah was about to make manifest, you did fear the people,' (33.37) was revealed in connection with Zainab and Zaid bin Haritha."

Is it untrue that while Zaid was complaining about his wife that Mohammed already knew what he would do to Zainab?
Because the act was shameful, Mohammed was afraid of people's reaction!

Tafsir Qur'an 33.37 Maududi - Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi - Tafhim al-Qur'an
...
The Holy Prophet set Zaid free immediately and proclaimed before a gathering of the Quraish in the Ka'bah, "Bear witness that hence-forth Zaid is my son: he will receive inheritance from me and I from him." Thereafter, he began to be called Zaid bin Muhammad by the people.
... These words were said when the relations between Hadrat Zaid and Hadrat Zainab had become very strained, and after making repeated complaints Hadrat Zaid had finally told the Holy Prophet that he intended to divorce her. Although Hadrat Zainab had accepted to be married to him in obedience to Allah and His Messenger's command, she could not overcome her feeling that Zaid was a freed slave, who had been brought up by her own family, and she in spite of being the daughter of a noble Arab family, had been wedded to him.
... At this Allah said to His Prophet, 'I had informed you that I would marry you to Zainab. But when you were forbidding Zaid to divorce his wife, you were hiding that which Allah was going to reveal'." (Ibn Jarir, Ibn Kathir on the authority of Ibn Abi Hatim).


The shamelessness of Mohammed

The History of Al-Tabari: The Victory of Islam, translated by Michael Fishbein [State University of New York Press, Albany, 1997], Volume VIII, pp. 2-3
When Zayd came home, his wife told him that the Messenger of God had come to his house. Zayd said, "Why didn't you ask him to come in?" He replied, "I asked him, but he refused." "Did you hear him say anything?" he asked. She replied, "As he turned away, I heard him say: ‘Glory be to God the Almighty! Glory be to God, who causes hearts to turn!’"
So Zayd left, and having come to the Messenger of God, he said: "Messenger of God, I have heard that you came to my house. Why didn’t you go in, you who are as dear to me as my father and mother? Messenger of God, perhaps Zaynab has excited your admiration, and so I will separate myself from her." Zayd could find no possible way to [approach] her after that day. He would come to the Messenger of God and tell him so, but the Messenger of God would say to him, "Keep your wife." Zayd separated from her and left her, and she became free.
While the Messenger of God was talking with 'A'isha, a fainting overcame him. When he was released from it, he smiled and said, "Who will go to Zaynab to tell her the good news, saying that God has married her to me?" Then the Messenger of God recited: "And when you said unto him on whom God has conferred favor and you have conferred favor, ‘Keep your wife to yourself .’"- and the entire passage.
According to 'A'isha, who said: "I became very uneasy because of what we heard about her beauty and another thing, the greatest and loftiest of matters - what God had done for her by giving her in marriage. I said she would boast of it over us."



Allah even made it impossible for Zaid to be able to have sex with his wife.



http://quran.al-islam.com/Tafseer/DispTafsser.asp?l=arb&taf=TABARY&nType=1&nSora=33&nAya=37
When the exalted Allah said, "Thou didst say to one who had received the grace of Allah and thy favor: ‘Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and fear Allah.’ But thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest: thou didst fear the people, but it is more fitting that thou shouldst fear Allah" this was said by Allah as chastisement to His prophet. For when He said, "one who had received the grace of Allah and thy favor" this was in reference to Zaid son of Haritha who had been set free by the apostle of Allah – prayers and peace be upon him.
When the Exalted Allah said, "Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and fear Allah" this was concerning Zainab the daughter of Jash whom the prophet – pbuh – had seen in her robes and was enamored by her. Thus when Allah saw what was stirring in His prophet’s soul, he placed hatred in the heart of Zaid towards Zainab that he may depart from her. When Zaid mentioned his intention to separate from Zainab to the prophet, the prophet told him, "Retain thou thy wife" even THOUGH THE PROPHET DESIRED THAT THEY SEPARATE SO THAT HE COULD MARRY HER... When Allah said, "Thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest," means that the prophet hid in his heart his desire for Zaid to depart from Zainab so that he may marry her, and Allah will reveal what you are concealing in your heart concerning this.
The Almighty said, "Thou didst fear the people, but it is more fitting that thou shouldst fear Allah," because Allah was telling the prophet who feared people might say, "He ordered a man to divorce his wife so that he himself may marry her after she is divorced," and Allah aught to be feared more than people.
Narrated by Yunis, narrated by Ibn Wahab, narrated by Ibn Zaid who said, "The prophet –pbuh– had married Zaid son of Haritha to his cousin Zainab daughter of Jahsh. One day the prophet –pbuh– went seeking Zaid in his house, whose door had a curtain made of hair. The wind blew the curtain and the prophet saw Zainab in her room unclothed and he admired her in his heart. When Zainab realized that the prophet desired her SHE BEGAN TO HATE ZAID.
Zaid then came to the prophet –pbuh– and said, "O apostle of Allah, I wish to separate from my mate." The prophet responded, "Why? Has anything evil come from her?" Zaid responded, "No, by Allah! I haven’t seen anything evil from her only good."
The prophet said, "Hold unto your wife and fear Allah." That is what Allah said in the Quran, "Thou didst say to one who had received the grace of Allah and thy favor: ‘Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and fear Allah.’ But thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest." For the prophet was concealing the fact that he would marry Zainab when Zaid had divorced her.
https://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/zaynab.htm


See to what extent the Spirit of Lust of the prophet of Islam will go!