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Bliss52:
Kindly read when Moses asked God for his name in your Bible

YWWH is not Hebrew or Arabic, it's unknown Language of the Gods

Go and read Exodus especially 3 when the spirit appeared

Again go and read about mythological books of all Semmitics YHWH is not even exclusive to christian Jew or Islam

Even Pagan call YHWH

YHWH exist in many spell books 5th and 6th book of Moses even 7th magic book, same as Solomon magic books

1. From this, I can see clearly that you are Not a Muslim.
2. At best, but you are a low-budget Maynman as you have the same signature or Maynman himself.

If you are not a Muslim, how can you speak of Islam. No wonder you muddle everything up.


Is their anything like YHWH in Islam?

Jennyclay:
Nonsense men!!

I hate men!!

The police should also strip him naked so that the public would truly see that his manhood is intact

Sick men everywhere!!

And your father is a man!?
Do you have brothers!?

Bliss52:
Angel Gabriel gave Mohammed the Quran and he clearly said he is simply a messenger

Please, let's know :
how did Jibril give the Qur'an to Mohammed?

How come when Shaitaan was giving Mohammed the Qur'an, he didn't know that this was not Jibril?

Bliss52:
Issah, Is a, YaSa Yasu are all variation of same name

Mohammed, Mohammad, Ahmad, Mammud, Mahammed same name just variation in Arabic used

No sir.

Yasu has NO linguistic similarities with Isa, Isah, Essa.

Okay!

Jesus means "Yahweh (YHWH) Saves", what does Isah or Isa or Eesa mean?

Bliss52:
I want you to use your common sense here and leave sentiments because as African both Arab, Jew hate you equally even European Christian so listen and learn with open mind

Timeline of Christianity when Jesus was born and had evangelism was about 2000 years ago

Mohammed was born and had his Islam 1500

Difference of 600 years

Both Gabriel appeared to Jesus and Mohammed

All Mohammed wrote was given instructions from Angel Gabriel because 500 years after Jesus message, People where deviating


The message was from God of Abraham to Isaac children (Jesus, Jews) Ismeal children (Arabs)

So definitely having lived in same region, with same ancestors same Angel Gabriel do you understand why both story are similar

You seem not to get it.

Jesus spoke some words about how He was going to judge the world 600 years before Islam.

In the Arabian peninsular, 600 years after, a certain Mohammed said that Allah said the same words in Judging the world.


Who is copying who?
At least we know for sure according to Islam that Allah is not Jesus the Messiah!

Bliss52:
Now this maybe funny to you but fill free to ask any Arab

Quran isn't written in modern Arabic, Just like Old English bible exist with O ye Mehn, Goet , Comet, Ain't

Quran was written in a very distinct variant of Arabic

Another intresting fact Arabic of different countries vary, Egypt, Muritiana , Saudiall have variant

See it like Ijebu Yoruba, Ijesa Yoruba and Ekiti

Similar to Igbo of Enugu, Anambra and Ebonyi

And Lastly an Isreali Hebrew can hear Arabic but can't speak but they are very similar

Hebrew Shalom, Arabic Salam
Hebrew Elohim, Arabic Alahum or Alakum
English Peace ,
Hebrew Ellah or Illah , Arabic Allah

Hebrew
Hallelujah (/ˌhæləˈluːjə/ HAL-ə-LOO-yə; Biblical Hebrew: הַלְלוּ־יָהּ‎, romanized: hallū-Yāh, Modern Hebrew: הַלְּלוּ־יָהּ‎, romanized: halləlū-Yah, lit. 'praise Yah')

Arabic
Alhamdulillah is an Arabic phrase meaning "praise be to God", sometimes translated as "thank God". This phrase is called Tahmid. A longer variant of the phrase is al-ḥamdu l-illāhi rabbi l-ʿālamīn

English
Praise God, Thank God

I have shown you a Passage in the Arabic Bible with the Name Jesus written




The Arabic name for Jesus is NOT Issa or Isa or Isah BUT Yasu

Mathew 1:1 in Arabic:
"كِتَابُ تَنْسِيلِ يَسُوعَ الْمَسِيحِ ابْنِ دَاوُدَ ابْنِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ."

Did you read: Yasu'a Al-Masih in the passage?

1. Does it sound like Yisa or Isah to you in Arabic?
2. Where did your Mohammed get Jesus as Isa?
3. Are you categorically saying that Allah is NOT the name of the God of the Muslims?


The question is easy to answer sir.

Why do Arab Christians call Jesus by the name Yasu?

MightySparrow:
Allah was a copycat.
Anyway, Allah being the Almighty only known to Mohammed couldn't have used any parable or allegory like that. Allah cannot be sick.

To make Islam, Allah, and Mohammed accepted, so many lies were to be cooked up.
Folklore invented, real history twisted, Lowes included, scientific knowledge included like sperms emanate from backbone. Mohammed travelled alone to heaven riding on a winged donkey.
All those stories.

The same goes today for land grabbing in Gaza strip.

See As they have entered their burrows like scared rabbits.

Islam is embarrassing to defend. Mohammed keep on talking and talking and the mumu followers kept writing whatever he said.

How can the Almighty Allah copy a mortal man?

No wonder, Allah people of Mohammed's time said the Qur'an are fables and tales of the ancients!

Bliss52:
Yes YWWH is the name of Allah (God ) of Abraham nothing like Yahweh as English call it



*Let me Shock You

*Jews hate Christian they spit on them

* Jews tried to kill Jesus as a baby under king Herod and Jesus and his family ran to Egypt to live and grow up with Arabs

Jews stoned and crucified Jesus nailing him to bleed to death

* All 12 disciples of Jesus were killed by Jews

Mount Sina is an many Religions pilgrimage site is in Egypt Arab land and Palestine, Jordan

So what!?

We know that Jews don't like Christians.
Jesus even told us that Jews will persecute us Christians.



Now, According please focus:

Questions :
1. Who else do you know in history to have given a similar Narrative like this: apart from Jesus?
2. Who can we say is copying who with these narratives?
3. Why is it that Jesus is claiming that which only God can do as per judgment of mankind?
4. Is Jesus the Allah Muslims do not know?

Your knowledge of Islam is miniscule sir

Bliss52:
Check where Levi is on the map

Why are you spattering about like one trained in ignorance?

Levi is one of the sons of Jacob who is the progenitor of one of the 12 tribes of Israel.
Other tribes include Judah, Manasseh, Benjamin. Jesus is from the Tribe of Judah while Zachariah is from the Tribe of Levi of Israel.

At least read a little before making an argument.

Bliss52:
And you ask me to get a scholar

I don't need one

I have lived around middle east with Jews and Arab and I know how they tell their story is the same

And I read freely as an open minded man who is educated

Then tell me how
1. Zechariah is an Arab man
2. A descendant of John
3. and is one of the author of new testament


AND

Questions :
1. Please what is the identity of this Zachariah?
2. Which of the books of the new testament did he write
3. In what language did he write his book


Because Ignorant of you NOT to know that Zachariah means "Yahweh remembers" or "remembered by Yahweh"

Over to you scholar?

Bliss52:
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

English language,; Jesus
Yoruba language; Jesu
Arabic; Isah
Hebrew language of Jew; Yeshua
In Igbo; Jisu
In Italian Gesu


God in Arabic; Allah
In Isreal Hebrew ; Illah
In English; God
In French; Dieu
Yoruba ; Oluwa


You really need to study all Religion

Try and follow Reno Omokirikiri

Read Bishop Kukah's book

This two men have read Torah, Quran, and Bible in English

You can also download English Quran, Bible and Torah and study it

1. Are you categorically saying that Allah is NOT the name of the God of the Muslims?

2. The Arabic name for Jesus is NOT Issa or Isa or Isah BUT Yasu


Mathew 1:1 in Arabic:
"كِتَابُ تَنْسِيلِ يَسُوعَ الْمَسِيحِ ابْنِ دَاوُدَ ابْنِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ."

Did you read: Yasu'a Al-Masih in the passage?

Does it sound like Yisa or Isah to you in Arabic?
Where did your Mohammed get Jesus as Isa?

Bliss52:
Let me further enlighten you

Zechariah is an Arab man and a descendant of John he is one of the author of new testament

Sorry sir.

How can Zachariah from the Tribe of Levi a priest in the a temple of Jerusalem the father of John the Baptist turn out to be

1. Zechariah is an Arab man
2. A descendant of John
3. and is one of the author of new testament


Questions :
1. Please what is the identity of this Zachariah?
2. Which of the books of the new testament did he write
3. In what language did he write his book

AntiChristian, Lukuluku69, Ohyoudidnt, 4islam, ThatFairGuy1, Gaskiyamagana and Explore2xmore,...
This your zealous friend need a study of Islam o!

[quote author=Bliss52 post=126355034][/quote]So you see that your knowledge of Islam is at best at kindergarten level.

Ask the nearest Islamic scholar to you the following questions
1. If Yahweh is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob : is Yahweh the name of the God of the Muslims?

2. Is the name Allah the true name of God or a title for God in Islam?

Bliss52:
Let me burst your hot bubbles

Mary mother of Jesus has a full chapter of her life in the Quran read below

https://m.clearquran.com/019.html


Jesus was mentioned 108 times in Quran

Jewish Torah, Christian Old testament and Quran has same story same God same Angel same family Arab and Jews are brothers


As Africans you were simply brainwashed by British Slave masters

You think it means anything if Jesus and Mary and Joseph and Moses are in the Qur'an?

Why are the narratives different?
Did your Isa/Jesus die on the cross?
No!

How is a fake document made?
Is it not by incorporating as much truth as possible that their deception will allow into their document of deceit?


Please,
What do the Arab Christians call their Jesus?
Who is then Issa or Isah or Isa in the Qur'an?

Bliss52:
Yahwey is the name of dirty of Ibrahim and Moses

Christianity is a western slave masters tool of control

Judaism is Jesus Religion

And Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Isreal are like treckable distance they are all brothers

Look at Thier map

It's like SouthSouth and SouthWest Nigeria

And Islam is the Religion of Arabs with which to conquer the world by brainwashing the adherents!

They are all brothers yet one has decided to exterminate the other by instruction of Allah


Sahih Muslim 2922
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

Is this hadith Maudu or Daif?

Bliss52:
Simple definition of Hadith

Any Muslim can write Hadith

Quran was written by Angel Gabriel for Mohammed

But the Qur'an is also a Hadith!

It seems you don't know that!


Did Jubril write the Qur'an?
No!
Did any Muslim see Jibril apart from Mohammed?
No!

So, what is the Quran?

It is the report written down from the testimony of Mohammed and it has its Isnad just like any other hadith.

Too bad!

Bliss52:
Allah means God in Arabic

Do you know there is an Arabic Bible

That is a bible in Arabic and Arabic is just a language

The open page is Psalm written in Arabic

With Jehovah refered to as Allah

It is either you are a new Muslim or an unknowledgeable one.

Allah is the name of the Deity of the Muslims
Just as
Yahweh is the name of the Deity of the Christians and Jews

The fact that Arab Christians call God Allah is because to them Allah is generic for God (a title meaning Deity)

Is the name of your God Yahweh?

Finestgurlie:
gbagili gbagili gbagili
you're talking rubbish

The similarities are so much that he wants to disown the Hadith.

Of course Allah does not mean God.

Allah is the name of the Deity of the Muslims
Just as
Yahweh is the name of the Deity of the Christians and Jews

Bliss52:
Allah means God ..

Jesus lived 1000 years before Mohammed

Jesus is a descendants of Abraham through Isaac

Muhammed is the deacedant of Abraham through Ismeal.

Mohammed did not write the Hadith you qouted, infact it was written after his death by Abu Hurayrah

Mohammed's best friend Buhari was a Arab Catholic

Allah does Not mean God.

Allah is a NAME or an IDENTITY of who you Muslims think is God the Creator!

Are you saying that your hadiths are mere FABRICATIONS?


Are you a Qur'an only Muslim?

So that you wouldn't claim that the Hadith is Daif or Maudu, I am attaching other Evidences.


Hadith 18, 40 Hadith Qudsi
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
Allah (mighty and sublime be He) will say on the Day of Resurrection: O son of Adam, I fell ill and you visited Me not. He will say: O Lord, and how should I visit You when You are the Lord of the worlds? He will say: Did you not know that My servant So-and-so had fallen ill and you visited him not? Did you not know that had you visited him you would have found Me with him? O son of Adam, I asked you for food and you fed Me not. He will say: O Lord, and how should I feed You when You are the Lord of the worlds? He will say: Did you not know that My servant So-and-so asked you for food and you fed him not? Did you not know that had you fed him you would surely have found that (the reward for doing so) with Me? O son of Adam, I asked you to give Me to drink and you gave Me not to drink. He will say: O Lord, how should I give You to drink when You are the Lord of the worlds? He will say: My servant So-and-so asked you to give him to drink and you gave him not to drink. Had you given him to drink you would have surely found that with Me.
It was related by Muslim.,




Another Hadith:

Mishkat al-Masabih 1528
Abu Huraira reported God’s messenger as saying:
On the day of resurrection God most high will say, “Son of Adam, I was sick and you did not visit me.” He will reply, “My Lord, how could I visit Thee when Thou art the Lord of the universe?” He will say, “Did you not know that my servant so and so was ill and yet you did not visit him? Did you not know that if you had visited him you would have found me with him? Son of Adam, I asked you for food but you gave me none.” He will reply, “My Lord, how could I feed Thee when Thou art the Lord of the universe?” He will say, “Did you not know that my servant so and so asked you for food and yet you gave him none? Did you not know that if you had fed him you would have found that with me? Son of Adam, I asked you for drink but you gave me none.” He will reply “My Lord, how could I give Thee drink when Thou art the Lord of the universe?” He will say, “My servant so and so asked you for drink but you gave him none. Did you not know that if you had given him something to drink you would have found that with me?’’

Muslim transmitted it.

*Why does Allah copy Jesus?
*Who said these words: Jesus or Allah?
*Who is copying who in this message?

Background Summary:
1. It is the day of Judgement
2. God is on the throne and judging the acts of men (sons of Adam) .
3. God says "I was sick but you didn't visit me!"
And the Unrighteous replied :
"You are the Lord of the World's: when did we see you sick but you didn't visit you? "
4. God says that He is the neighbour who these men did or did not give their help.
5. God says: If these men had helped their neighbours, they would have found out it was God they were helping

I am sure most Muslims have not heard this hadith before.

Here is the narration from Allah according to Mohammed SAW


Sahih Muslim 2569
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger as saying:
Verily, Allah , the Exalted and Glorious, would say on the Day of Resurrection: O son of Adam, I was sick but you did not visit Me. He would say: O my Lord; how could I visit Thee whereas Thou art the Lord of the worlds? Thereupon He would say: Didn't you know that such and such servant of Mine was sick but you did not visit him and were you not aware of this that if you had visited him, you would have found Me by him? O son of Adam, I asked food from you but you did not feed Me. He would say: My Lord, how could I feed Thee whereas Thou art the Lord of the worlds? He said: Didn't you know that such and such servant of Mine asked food from you but you did not feed him, and were you not aware that if you had fed him you would have found him by My side? (The Lord would again say: ) O son of Adam, I asked drink from you but you did not provide Me. He would say: My Lord, how could I provide Thee whereas Thou art the Lord of the worlds? Thereupon He would say: Such and such of servant of Mine asked you for a drink but you did not provide him, and had you provided him drink you would have found him near Me.


This hadith above is repeated with slightly different wordings in
1. Hadith 18, 40 Hadith Qudsi
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah
2. Mishkat al-Masabih 1528
On the authority of Abu Huraira

Here is Jesus saying a more detailed version of the narration in the Bible.

Mat 25:31-46:
"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit on the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say to them on his right hand, Come, you blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungered, and you gave me meat: I was thirsty, and you gave me drink: I was a stranger, and you took me in: Naked, and you clothed me: I was sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we you an hungered, and fed you? or thirsty, and gave you drink? When saw we you a stranger, and took you in? or naked, and clothed you? Or when saw we you sick, or in prison, and came to you? And the King shall answer and say to them, Truly I say to you, Inasmuch as you have done it to one of the least of these my brothers, you have done it to me. Then shall he say also to them on the left hand, Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungered, and you gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and you visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we you an hungered, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to you? Then shall he answer them, saying, Truly I say to you, Inasmuch as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."

We can see that these storylines are very similar to each other. The narrators are Jesus and Allah.



Questions :
1. Who else do you know in history to have given a similar Narrative like this: apart from Jesus?
2. Who can we say is copying who with these narratives?
3. Why is it that Jesus is claiming that which only God can do as per judgment of mankind?
4. Is Jesus the Allah Muslims do not know?
Qur'an 5:72
They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allāh is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allāh, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allāh - Allāh has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.




Please let's make the answers short, direct and precise
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Ohyoudidnt:
Why do you rely on Hadith different from the one Allah has given by the Quran? Is this not what you truly mean to say?

Was it not Mohammed that told you Muslims that some of the words he speaks were from Allah? We're you there as evidence? Is it not just that you accept Mohammed's claim as true!?

What is the Hadith?
Is it untrue that:
Hadiths are reports of the Deeds, Approvals and Sayings of your prophet Mohammed?
You seem to forget that the Qur'an is another Hadith according to Mohammed.
LOL

Again:
Is the Quran not a Hadith taken from Mohammed where he claimed that he recieved some words from Jibril who got it from Allah!?
Does the Qur'an you carry about not also have it's Isnad like every other hadith?

Ohyoudidnt:
Wonderful, you mean you need your legs to lift you up to breath? Explain the physiology doc.

Wouldn't it be more believable if the legs were broken yet healed in the few days upon his 'resurrection'? Is this too much to add to the miracle and prove the depth of suffering? How long after him did those crucified beside him take to die?

You should have at least first read up the mechanism of death through crucifixion before stating this your ignorance.
1. The mechanism of death by crucifixion is asphyxiation or suffocation. The weight of the person hung by the hands prevent the person from breathing easily as the diaphragm muscle has to do more work. The person being crucified has to lift up his body with his legs to release this pressure so that he can breathe just a little better. The pains in the feet prevents him from relieving this pain for long. Thus he oscillates up and down for hours or even days till exhaustion takes over and he cannot lift up himself again. This make him succumb to asphyxiation or suffocation resulting in his death. It is a surprise you don't know this.

2. Explain how a person who had a nail driven through his ankles can walk about within three days. The anaesthetics and pain relievers of those days were so powerful that by the third day Jesus was already healed enough to walk with his disciples.
SMH!

Ohyoudidnt:
Your story is really not adding up.
No sign will be given except the sign of Jonah yet in the time of Jonah was he dead? Did the time of death and resurrection really make 3 days and 3 nights?

Summary :
Jesus was in the grave for three days and three nights according to prophecy. He was planing crucified on Thursday because Friday was a high sabbath and Saturday was the normal Sabbath. Since Jews don't work on ANY sabbath, the preparation for burial of the body could not be done till Sunday morning.
The Sabbath does not mean Saturday sir. Sabbath means any work-free day (Holy day= Holiday) set aside for the Worship of Yahweh the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.


Detail Explanation in case you want to do your research
Statement of Objection of Muslims
Jesus did not spend three days and three nights in the grave.


1. Islamic Ignorance ONE says: The Book of Mark and John said that Jesus died on a Friday!
Explanation:
There is no word called Friday in any of the gospels.
Mark mentioned "the day before the Sabbath"
John also mentioned that He was buried on the day of preparation as Sabbath drew on.

Unfortunately for Muslims, the Jews had more than one kind of Sabbath.
a. Weekly Sabbath
b. Annual Sabbath
c. Seven Year Sabbath
d. Seventy Year Sabbath

There are actually seven kinds of Annual Sabbath that the Children of Israel celebrate. All thse are called HIGH SABBATH (Special Sabbath)
(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Sabbaths

Examples apart from the Seventh day Sabbath (Saturday) :
i. Passover celebrations (the 14th of Nisan)
ii. Feast of Unleavened Bread, a holiday which is always observed on the 15th day of the month of Nisan
iii. Feast of First Fruits which was held on the Sunday following the Passover.
iv. Feast of Tabernacles


The day of Preparation is any day before a Sabbath.

Vadict:
Mark and John specified that Jesus was crucified on the day of Preparation (before Sabbath without specifying the kind of Sabbath).

John specified that the Sabbath was on a High Day (high Sabbath). This Sabbath was NOT the Weekly Sabbath but the Annual Sabbath. Jesus was crucified a day before the Annual Sabbath (Day of Preparation)


2. Islamic Ignorance TWO says: Jesus was said to have died just before Sabbath day (Saturday) which is Friday!

Response:
As explained above, the Day of Preparation was a Day before the High Sabbath NOT the Weekly Sabbath.

The High Sabbath Fell on a Friday (Thursday evening to Friday according to Jewish reconning of days), thus Jesus was crucified on a Thursday Morning and was buried before Thursday Evening.


3. Islamic Ignorance THREE: It was impossible for Jesus to die of his two legs were not broken.
Response:
I laugh in Swahili and Turkish language.

A. Jesus said:
John 10:17-18:
"Therefore does my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man takes it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father."


In other words, Jesus gave up his spirit when He knew the Atonement it was completed.

Luk 23:46:
"And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into your hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."

B. Have you ever heard that two men were fighting and one slumped and died even when no weapon was used?
Time of use and the nature instrument of punishment does not determine how fast a person would die from his injury.
C. Jesus was Arrested on Wednesday night and tried overnight till Thursday morning in three different locations before being crucified about 9:00 am Thursday morning. He didn't rest throughout the night before he was crucified. This was probably why he couldn't carry his cross and this had to be helped by Joseph of Arimathea


4. Islamic Ignorance FOUR : High Sabbath is the day two festivals were celebrated on a single day.

Response:
No sir. A high Sabbath is ANY of the seven Annual Sabbaths of Israel even though, sometimes it falls on a weekly Sabbath

See Attachments!


FINALLY:
Why do you think the Women came to anoint the Body of Jesus on Sunday and not Thursday, Friday or Saturday?

Jesus was buried just before the high Sabbath on Thursday Evening therefore there was tp time to anoint his dead body properly for his burial. The High Sabbath commenced from the evening of Thursday to the Evening of Friday (according to the Jews reconning of days).

Therefore, Jesus body could not be anointed properly for burial. By Friday evening, the Weekly Sabbath commenced till Saturday evening so, the body still couldn't be anointed. Thus, very early Sunday morning, the women went to anoint the body of Jesus.

Mar 16:1-2:
"And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came to the sepulcher at the rising of the sun."


So Brother Ohyoudidnt :
Now that I've answered your Objections, can you FIRST answer the Questions below before continuing?
Two Questions
1. Can you give a logical reason why the Disciples of Jesus had to fabricate an elaborate lie that their Lord was crucified (NAKED), beaten and died on the cross if ot is untrue?

2. From Islamic teachings,
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as a Muslim please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?

Thank you.

advocatejare:
In short, Allah is taking them all into hell.
O ma se o

Would they listen to reason!?

I would not be guilty of keeping quiet and not speaking out the truth to them!

advocatejare:
So these people actually know that they are hell-bound. It’s a pity. Lukuluku69, AntiChristian, drlateef, Thatfairguy1 is that what they teach you?

There is no way under the sun they can wade out of it.

Their only consolation is that Allah would later remove them from hell


And I ask them, how long will they be in hell before their Allah says its enough?
Suppose it's a Deception?

In eternity, I they forget that time doesn't exist!

jaephoenix:
Same way ou pray to Jesus

Jesus is the WORD GOD who became human.

If Jesus was only human, that would be Idolatory!

advocatejare:
They deceive themselves by claiming to believe in the false Christ their Quran refer to as Isa who is not the same as Christ/Yeshua the Son of Yahweh

Qur'an 19:71
"وَمَا مِنكُم مِّنْ أَحَدٍ إِلَّا سَيَمُرُّهَا ۚ ذَٰلِكَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّكَ يَسِيرٌ"

Was ma minkum min ahadin illa sayamurruhā...

Going by the Arabic!

Every Muslim according to Allah will FIRST enter the Fire of Hell before Allah will now accept their ransome



See what the Tafsirs say:
ALL Muslims will enter the Fire of Hell until they are finally ransomed.

See the Tafsirs on Qur'an 19:71

Quran 19 :71 Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(There is not one of you but shall approach it) there is not a single one of you, to the exclusion of prophets and messengers, save that he will enter it, i.e. hell. (That is a fixed ordinance of your Lord) it is a decree that must necessarily take place.


Qur'an 19.71 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
There is not one of you but shall come to it, that is, [but] shall enter Hell. That is an inevitability [already] decreed by your Lord, [something which] He made inevitable and [which] He decreed; He will not waive it.


Qur'an 19.71-72 Kathir - Ibn Al Kathir
Everyone will be brought to Hell, then the Righteous will be saved
Ibn Jarir reported from `Abdullah that he said concerning Allah's statement,

All Muslims are entering Hell Fire!

Quran 19:72 -
Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees."

ManirBK:
Putin is absolutely right. Not only America, but the entire West never
regarded the core interest of Palestinians.

The plain truth of the matter is that there is NO solution that would be agreeable to both the palestinians and the israelis.

advocatejare:
Muhammad is definitely antichrist because he stood and taught against everything Christ stood for and taught

The more you show them Christ, the more they cling to the fraud leading them into hell fire.

Kobojunkie:
Storyland!

God is not interested in your virginity, He is instead looking for those who will choose to live their entire life in continuous submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments.

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For those still not aware, even virgins can be found guilty of the sin of adultery - Matthew 7 vs 27 - 28 - in the end. So walking around beating your chest that you are a virgin is meaningless where God is concerned.

This simply because you've lost your own virginity!?

Be positive for once.
Sexual impurity is just ONE of the various things that can defile a Christian.


FYI:
The Guy in Question is still a young adult!

Edusouls:
Zelensky arrogance no get part two, see were Ukraine stands today at the middle of crossroads about to be dumped with confusion about the direction to head, USA don use and ruin many nations finish, I don be for Ukraine, Jews are a terrible problem for them selves and the world

I know that you are a humble guy thus

I need a new houseboy, I report to my house tomorrow else I will flog you till you give up.

I know you will jejely surrender and come!

I am waiting as I know that you wouldn't resist such command for fear of punished by me.

phransix2:
This war would have long ended if not for those backing Zelensky...

I agree!

But Putin too has his Backers now.
Iran and North Korea

Why should Putin request for assistance as powerful as he is?

Judolisco:
Na Ukraine mumu pass 4 all dis yeye war.... People wey dey support you no dey fight war for their own country oh... With all d support you've been getting nothing to show for it...

I need a new houseboy, I report to my house tomorrow else I will flog you till you give up.

I know you will jejely surrender and come!

I am waiting as I know that you wouldn't resist such command for fear of dieing.