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AntiChristian:
We don't need to defend anything!

Let there be no compulsion in religion, for the truth stands out clearly from falsehood. So whoever renounces false gods and believes in Allah has certainly grasped the firmest, unfailing hand-hold. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing

AntiChristian:
We don't need to defend anything!

Let there be no compulsion in religion, for the truth stands out clearly from falsehood. So whoever renounces false gods and believes in Allah has certainly grasped the firmest, unfailing hand-hold. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing

AntiChristian:
Whether you believe in or not it doesn't matter!
Abuse Adam as you like. If na someone says Jesus get prick somehow you go flair up!

Na Christian hypocrisy to give what you can't take!
After all, na holy spirit dey direct you write nonsense!

But do you guys believe in this below:

I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns[diadems].

He has a name written on him that no one but he himself knows. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter." He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
(Revelation 19:11-16 NIV)

How do we define weird again?
Isn't this more than the 60 cubit hadith you don't believe?

MightySparrow:
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx4s9Z-l6PS6xE1-AdhEEKieOTkcKnrIQE?si=OD6NJgvJ8IxqIlFl



Abdul's come over here and defend your
prophet.

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OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Like bombing civilian hospital in Gaza. If Russia did something like that in Ukraine. US, EU, NATO all of them will be shouting war crime & genocide.

I stand with Palenstine.

Handsomejok:
I have been a victim of fake proohet which has destroyed my home in the past.

My wife and I were separated before and we have reconciled although our marriage is not the best but we are managing staying together for the sake of our children.

I have a problem bothering me that I keep dreaming about her wanting to kill me this dream is coming more often and I strongly believed she has no intention to harm me but I remember once when we were arguing I asked her why she has decided to come back to me if she doesn't want to do any effort to amend our marriage.

She said she cane back to me because she had nowhere to stay with the children. When I think about what she said and also the way she treat me like her enemy I am scared and I started to think of what if she came with a plan to harm me to revenge back all the suffering I have put her through. I am confuse and I don't know what to do right now please advice me?

Bultwo:
Q 3:84 Say, "We have believed in Allāh and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants [al-Asbāṭ], and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him.

gfelo:
First of all what is gambling?

Google search will tell you that:

1. Gambling is a game of chance for money bet

2, take risky action in the hope of a desired result, this second definition gives examples using gambling is stated like 'he was gambling on the success of his sattelite TV channel'

My point here is clear and simple looking from the second definition, the entire life is a gambling itself.

U went to set up a business with the hope people will patronise you, that is gambling, what if people do not patronise you.

Any investment with the hope of getting gains is a gambling, gambling is taking risk.

Even bible encourage gambling in Ecclessiastes 11 vs 4.

All investment we do it is hope to turn out good, which is the same as gambling, people that gamble also hope that their expectations turns out too and that is why I said "life is a gamble."

Biodun556:
As most answers correctly stated that Muslims know about our father Adam height, as it came in multiple narrations of prophet Mohammad (ﷺ) he said:

"Allah created Adam, sixty cubits (about 29 meters) in height. When God created Adam, He said go and greet that group of angels sitting there, and listen what they will say in reply to you, for that will be your greeting and the greeting of your offspring.

Adam (went and) said, 'As-Salamu alaikum (Peace be upon you).' They replied, 'AsSalamu-'Alaika wa Rahmatullah (Peace and Allah's Mercy be on you) So they increased 'Wa Rahmatullah' .

The Prophet (ﷺ) added 'So whoever will enter Paradise, will be of the shape and picture of Adam.

Since then the creation of Adam's (offspring) (i.e. stature of human beings is being diminished continuously) to the present time."

(Narrated in Sahih al-Bukhari, Hadith no. 6227. Chapter name: Asking Permission)

● Our mother’s height is untold of, but from common human knowledge, it must be in about the same ratio!

In other narrations it has been mentioned that people entering heavens shall have:

The same height of Adam,
The same age of Jesus Christ at 33 years old,
The men without beards, and
“The people of Paradise are without body hair (Murd)
With Kuhl (black on their eyelids),
Their youth does not come to an end, and
Their clothes do not wear out.” (narrated by Tirmidhi, Hadith 2539)
They never get tired,
They never sleep,
And they never die!
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: "The first group of people who will enter Paradise, will be glittering like the full moon and those who will follow them, will glitter like the most brilliant star in the sky. They will not urinate, relieve nature, spit, or have any nasal secretions. Their combs will be of gold, and their sweat will smell like musk. The aloes-wood will be used in their centers. Their wives will be houris. They look alike and will resemble their father Adam (in stature), sixty cubits tall." (Narrated in Sahih Bukhari, Hadith 3327)

Ohyoudidnt:
Good Friday.

https://www.bibleinfo.com/en/questions/which-day-is-sabbath

The image may be too small.

This Bible passage shows the chronology of the week including how the Sabbath day and the first day of the week relate to each other. According to Luke 23:54, Jesus died on the preparation day which we now call Good Friday. The next day, Sabbath, the women rested according to the commandment. Finally, after the Sabbath, on the first day of the week, Jesus was resurrected.

Therefore, according to the Bible, the Sabbath day can be pinpointed as the day before the first day of the week. Today, we call this day Saturday or the seventh day of the week. In addition, ask any Christian which day comes between Good Friday and Resurrection Sunday—their answer, Saturday.
Browse: Who changed the Sabbath to Sunday?

Preparation day or sixth day = Friday
Sabbath day or seventh day = Saturday
Resurrection day or first day = Sunday

Raheeqilmaktoom:
1. I have not seen those christians that do that, hes obliterated most of the ones he met.

2. Now this is funny, even the bible, like authorities in christianity are trying to debunk the myth. Like you have 2 blocks one dosent believe a thing about trinity and considers everone professing that as a polytheist and the other shouting to the heavens about trinity.

SIRTee15:
They don't have answer to these questions because they dont read their Koran.
U can't fully read the Koran, understand it and remain a Muslim. It's impossible, ask all ex-muslims.

There was one I asked here that if truly Allah has a son, should that Son be worshipped.
He got the answer wrong despite the Koran having the expo.

The only thing they now use to argue is that Islam is growing and Christianity is dying.
Therefore Islam is true.

SIRTee15:
Jesus is God my friend.
Even your extremes of islamic apologetics now admit that if the gospel of John is true, them Jesus divinity isn't in doubt and he's truly God.
Their argument is now hinged on the gospel of John is forgery. Something that can't prove.

Muhammed hijab shouts more than he makes sense. Once he meets Christians that are ready to debunk him, he shrinks away.

Everybody knows Palestinians are the oppressed and Israeli are not sincere. It would be easy for anyone to defeat the no longer inconsequential 'israel has a right to defend itself claim'.
That claim is too old to be relevant now. Israel is no longer any threat. They should allow Palestinians to breath.

But Jesus is definitely God. Even your Koran confirms it.

Ohyoudidnt:
There have been various attempts throughout history to confuse and distort the narrative surrounding the crucifixion. One of the most notable of these attempts is the High Sabbath theory, which seeks to create confusion regarding the timing of the crucifixion. Although this theory is based on flawed interpretations and lack of historical evidence, it remains intriguing to explore its premise and the reasons behind it.

The High Sabbath theory proposes that the crucifixion of Jesus did not occur on a Friday, as commonly believed, but rather on a Wednesday or Thursday. This theory is beset with several inconsistencies and contradictions. Firstly, the use of the term "Sabbath" in Matthew 12:40 is commonly understood to refer to the regular weekly Sabbath, which would have been Saturday during that time. The idea that it represents any Jewish festival weakens the argument as it overlooks the specificity of the language used. Furthermore, other references in the New Testament, such as Mark 16:9 and Luke 24:1, reinforce the notion that the resurrection occurred on the first day of the week, which is Sunday.

The Gospel of John mentions that Jesus was crucified on the day of preparation for the Passover (John 19:14). This aligns with the historical understanding that Passover would have fallen on a Friday during that period. Furthermore, the Jewish Sanhedrin, responsible for the trial and crucifixion of Jesus, was unlikely to conduct such proceedings during a Sabbath, as it would have been a violation of Jewish law.

The High Sabbath theory demonstrates the danger of cherry-picking verses and interpreting them in isolation, without considering their context and the historical circumstances surrounding Jesus' crucifixion.

High Sabbath" should not be confused with the Sabbath day itself. While the Sabbath is universally observed, the High Sabbath represents a specific day of significance within certain religious communities. High Sabbath refers to the festival of Passover, which commemorates the Israelites' liberation from slavery in ancient Egypt. During this time, the Jewish community gathers for special meals and prayers, celebrating their freedom and devotion to God.

It is important to note that the High Sabbath does not replace or supersede the traditional Sabbath day of rest.

John 19:31
Since it was the day of Preparation, and so that the bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken and that they might be taken away.

Raheeqilmaktoom:
Here we go again, classic David Wood.

Like I have always told you, go study these things on your own - think for yourself not the usual copy paste you do.

These are some of the dumbest arguments you can make, and you are presenting them with while thumping your chest and stamping your feet.

peekspot:
https://www.thecable.ng/fg-proposes-n26trn-as-2024-budget-targets-dec-31-for-submission-at-nassembly/amp

ijustdey:
https://dailytrust.com/enact-law-that-will-force-civil-servant-to-marry-more-wives-cleric-tells-jigawa-lawmakers/

Raheeqilmaktoom:
As always, its always your lack of comprehension that lead you to dead ends.

The El-Lah dumb argument?
The Muslim pray to Muhammad (S.A.W) in Tashahhud dumb argument?

Raheeqilmaktoom:
Be better than that.
Your sources are being debunked left, right and centre. Apostateporhphet, Robert spencer was dragged through the biggest sewer in history, Rashid dosent know what an apple is.

Raheeqilmaktoom:
Thing is, its your Christians that dont know what to hold onto, is it 3 Gods in one - polytheism in disguise, against every bible injuction, old and new testament, every christian clergy worth his salt disbelieves in polytheism - even our own local champ Reno, not you guys.

Thing is, you guys are so enmeshed in your mess theres no way out but to twist and turn A into Z.
The 'do Muslims pray to Allahs face or hands' argument comes up. You have no way to hold on than to create chaos and confusion, unfortunately for you, everything is very open.

Your line of work is dying profession, look for a better one.

Hijab just destroyed Piers Morgan, like he did David Wood - TenQ 's mentor and source. grin

@GracieX3

Ohyoudidnt:
Proverbs 12:15
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.


You obviously stick with answers that suit you.
There is no biblical authority for changing the day of rest and worship from the seventh-day Sabbath. If there were different Sabbath why then didn't your Bible explicitly say so?

The Jewish Sabbath, also known as Shabbat, has its roots in biblical history. According to the Book of Genesis in the Hebrew Bible, God created the world in six days and rested on the seventh day, declaring it holy. This holy day was later enshrined as a commandment in the Ten Commandments, which were given to the Israelites by Moses on Mount Sinai. The Jewish Sabbath begins at sundown on Friday and ends at nightfall on Saturday.

The Christian Sabbath, also known as the Lord's Day, has its origins in early Christianity. Unlike the Jewish Sabbath, which falls on the seventh day of the week (Saturday), the Christian Sabbath is observed on the first day of the week (Sunday). This shift from Saturday to Sunday as the day of rest can be attributed to the belief among early Christians that Jesus Christ rose from the dead on a Sunday.

Understand the history of months and calendar years.

Yes. It wasn't just one thing that caused death by crucifixion. Have there not been people who experienced similar and survived? Did you not say sometimes on the legs breaking? Is this not of any meaning to you?

I see the Bible is now a book of exact science for you. Oh sheeple. Your cult tells you blame not my prophet and do him no harm.

Do you state authoritatively that all jews and romans believed Jesus was crucified when some of his disciples didn't expect he would be?

Does Quran 4:157 definitely say someone else was crucified in his stead? Do the translation! If Abraham's intended sacrifice of his son could be replaced how much less Jesus?

As expected you ask questions which you already have fixated answers to

Ohyoudidnt:
Short answer for 10 questions? Fantastic.
1.In the context of Israel, the sabbath traditionally takes place from Friday evening to Saturday evening, with Saturday being designated as the day of rest.

Ohyoudidnt:
The crucifixion occurred on Friday because, according to the Gospels, Jesus died before the onset of the sabbath. This aligns with Jewish law, which prohibits any work on the sabbath.

2. In Mark 15:42, after Jesus' death, we read that "When evening had already come, because it was the preparation day, that is, the day before the Sabbath." This statement alludes to the Sabbath, which in Jewish tradition, begins on Friday evening.

In John 19:31, after Jesus' death, it is mentioned that "Since it was the day of Preparation, the Jews did not want the bodies left on the cross during the Sabbath." Again, this refers to Friday as the day of crucifixion, as it highlights the impending Sabbath and the necessity of removing bodies from the crosses before it.

Ohyoudidnt:
3. Crucifixion was intended to prolong suffering and cause immense pain, the actual cause of death arose from a combination of factors.
Scientifically examining the process of crucifixion gives a deeper understanding of the physical effects endured by victims.
The physical, psychological, and spiritual torment endured by the crucified individuals was undoubtedly immense.

Hemodynamic Changes from crucifixion was notorious for causing significant hemodynamic alterations in the body. Standing upright on the cross impeded venous return, causing blood pooling in the lower extremities. This pooling resulted in reduced venous return to the heart, diminishing cardiac output. Consequently, a drop in blood pressure occurred, putting additional stress on the circulatory system. The lack of proper circulation, coupled with dehydration, could lead to multiple organ failure and eventual death.
A key factor contributing to death is hypovolemic shock, resulting from significant blood loss caused by the nails driven through the hands and sometimes feet. These injuries sever crucial blood vessels, causing rapid blood depletion and exacerbating the body's physiological response to severe pain and trauma.
The crucifixion process often takes place under unforgiving climatic conditions, exposing the condemned to significant dehydration and hyperthermia.
Counter to popular belief, asphyxiation resulting from the crucifixion position may not be the primary cause of death. In fact, numerous in-depth studies and historical accounts suggest that asphyxiation plays a secondary role in the outcome of crucifixion.

Ohyoudidnt:
4. The Barbaric nature of man and perharps to make it even more difficult for the crucified to get away if he somehow beat death on the crucifix.

Ohyoudidnt:
5. If there could be doubts by the disciples of the crucifixion and resurrection how much more those who weren't as close?

Ohyoudidnt:
6. It is not established that another was crucified in place of Jesus. Indeed it is a mystery isn't it?

Ohyoudidnt:
7. The former answets this

Ohyoudidnt:
8.The word "Makir" has been misinterpreted by some individuals, leading them to believe it is a recognized name of Allah. However, a closer examination of the Quran and religious texts reveals that "Makir" does not qualify as a valid name for Allah. Nowhere within the Quran does Allah introduce Himself as "Makir."

Ohyoudidnt:
9. What is said in the Quran is
Allah said, “O Jesus, indeed[b] I will take you and raise you to Myself[/b] and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to Allah alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ. (Q3:55)

.....but when You took me back....(Q5:117)

uncleck:
I'm 35 years old. My sweetheart left me few weeks ago because, according to her, she can't "marry a man who doesn't fear God". This followed series of heart to heart communication over many months. Her problem isn't that I'm a bad person. Normally I don't categorize people based on whether they are good or bad. I equally do not make decisions based on morality rather based on legality (except in family and relationship matters).

...

I have noticed that people, especially religious people, say what they don't mean (lie) with ease. People live double life with ease. (I don't want this thread to be too long)

Now, I'm not looking for a "compatible" partner (she doesn't exist), I only want a liberal minded person that is contented with one d***k. But it seems I'm on a wild goose chase. I might end up single

nlfpmod:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU7gwhCFnn4?si=eqMaiwuNoePeGfLI


@sentdefender

Ohyoudidnt:
Saturday is most popularly accepted as the Sabbath. Saturday, the seventh day of the week, has long been accepted as the popular Sabbath for many cultures and religions around the world.
In Judaism, Saturday is recognized as the Sabbath, a day set apart for rest and observance of religious duties. According to the Book of Genesis in the Old Testament of the Bible, God created the world in six days and rested on the seventh, sanctifying it as a day of rest. This divine act of rest serves as a central theme in Jewish tradition, and observant Jews honor the Sabbath by abstaining from work, refraining from certain activities, and spending time in prayer and study. Saturday, therefore, serves as a sacred day for the Jewish community.
Throughout history, mankind has been enveloped in a continuous struggle to comprehend the abstract concept of a higher power. Various religions have emerged, each presenting their own beliefs and teachings about God and his prophets. However, skepticism and doubt have always existed among individuals, challenging the very existence of these divine entities.

One of the primary reasons behind doubting God and his prophets is the question of suffering and evil. Many individuals struggle to reconcile the idea of an all-loving and all-powerful God with the presence of pain, suffering, and atrocities in the world. If God is truly benevolent, then why does he allow innocent people to suffer?

Unlike other aspects of life, such as science or history, religion mainly relies on faith rather than empirical evidence. While religious texts and teachings provide insights into the existence of God and his prophets, the lack of concrete proof fuels skepticism. People naturally tend to be more skeptical of concepts that are not substantiated by objective evidence.

The scriptures suggest that, initially, Jesus' disciples reacted with disbelief and confusion regarding his crucifixion. Following his arrest and trial, most of the disciples fled from the scene, fearing arrest and potential persecution themselves. Peter, one of the most prominent disciples, denied any association with Jesus three times before the crucifixion, displaying disbelief and betrayal.

The Gospel of Luke outlines a post-resurrection occurrence called the "Road to Emmaus." In this account, two disciples, Cleopas and an unnamed companion, expressed their sorrow and confusion about Jesus' crucifixion, indicating a lack of understanding regarding Jesus' resurrection. This narrative illustrates that not all disciples initially believed in Jesus' crucifixion.

One of the most well-known instances of disbelief among Jesus' disciples involved Thomas. Following Jesus' crucifixion, when the other disciples professed seeing the resurrected Christ, Thomas expressed uncertainty and stated that he would not believe unless he personally saw and touched the wounds inflicted on Jesus. This doubt demonstrates a hesitancy to accept Jesus' crucifixion until he could verify it himself.

Luke 24:19 .........“About Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied. “He was a prophet, powerful in word and deed before God and all the people.

greencard:
People will say my fear of marriage is marrying the wrong person, so what is your definition of a wrong person?

What if you are the wrong person, How will you know ?

FxMasterz:
Yeah, I can remember reading the post.

You're right about JWs but God would give you the wisdom to handle them.

Courz would readily supply you with quotes from their rules and regulations that would be a big plus for the post. He's very versatile on JW matters.

Almiron:
Authorities in Kenya have detained Brian Mwenda, a fake lawyer who has won 26 cases while posing as an Advocate of the high court of Kenya.

Before his arrest, the attorney handled 26 cases before High Court Judges, Magistrates, and Court of Appeal Judges, all of which he won, Kenyan entertainment news website Mpasho reported.

Due to false pretenses, the Law Society of Kenya Nairobi Branch Rapid Action Team (RAT) detained him.

When the RAT received complaints from the general population, he was captured.

He does not have a license to practice law in Kenya, according to LSK Nairobi Branch on their X account, and neither does he claim to be an advocate.

The notification stated, in part, that “the man has been presenting and conducting himself as an Advocate of the High Court of Kenya and a member of LSK Nairobi Branch,” which had come to the knowledge of the LSK Nairobi Branch through the Rapid Action Team (RAT).

He is being detained in the RAT’s main office while an investigation is ongoing.

SOURCE

FxMasterz:
Chai!!

Please, I believe in God's grace and wisdom upon your life.

Can you make a list thread with a topic such as, 'How to know that you're in a cult.' or 'How to know that the region you're practising is a cult.' or '10 Signs that shows that your religion or organization is a cult.' Then, you back it up with sample verses or verdicts from such cults such as the verse you just quoted for Islam. Both Muslims and JWs can benefit from such threads. Especially when you clearly show them that they're being held for the benefit of the cult. I'll supply points for the thread too if the Lord gives me points.

God will certainly help you bro.

FxMasterz:
The bolded is very succinct. Any organization that needs you for its own benefit would never allow you to renounce so easily. All cults are like that.

FxMasterz:
If only they can sit down and make subjective reviews of what they have been told without allowing any religious bias to becloud their reasoning. Christians are permitted to ask questions in church. They're are not threatened if they decide to leave the faith. This gives room for free thinking. You are never forced to be a Christian. You are a Christian because you chose to. The same does not apply to Islam, that's why Muslims have to reason things out themselves and not be defending Mohammed blindly.