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Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 8:24pm On Oct 13, 2023
Qasim6:
As early as Christianity started

The only GENUINE early source we have for Jesus crucifixion is Paul and his camp writings, you are free to proof me wrong.

And in Galatians 3:1 We see Paul scolding the Galatians ' O foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, that you should not believe the truth, Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified.

The question is who is bewitching them to think otherwise?

And here is also a part of letter st Ignatius of Antioch who lived in the first century wrote to the Magnesians�

'Those, then, who lived by ancient practices arrived at a new hope. They ceased to keep the
Sabbath and lived by the Lord’s Day, on which our life as well as theirs shone forth, thanks to Him
and his death, though some deny this. Through this mystery we got our faith, .............'
My Questions please

Tell me
1. How did another person get crucified instead of Jesus and no one suspected?
Did Jesus have an identical twin brother?
2. When did Allah raise Jesus to himself?
Was it before or after his supposed crucifixion?
3. Did Allah inform Mary the Mother of Jesus or his Disciples that Jesus was not the one on the cross?
4. It is understandable if Allah decieved both the Jews and the Romans : Why did Allah deceive Mary the mother of Jesus, the Disciples and Followers of Jesus about the crucifixion and death of Jesus?


Number by number please
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 8:22pm On Oct 13, 2023
Qasim6:
First thing first, before I continue with this conversation
Do you know there are early Christians that refute this crucifixion resurrection hogwash?
I hope you realise that you have not kept your promise. I answered your question, haven't I?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 4:38pm On Oct 13, 2023
FxMasterz:
Lol.

May God have mercy on him.
Amen o!
These people despise the truth. They would rather go to the hell Allah destined for them while hoping for the sex orgy that would follow after Allah has used Christians and Jews as ransom for them.
SMH!
SportsRe: Cristiano Ronaldo Sentenced To 99 Lashes For Hugging A Woman While Taking Photo by TenQ: 4:29pm On Oct 13, 2023
99thEnemy:
Source: https://www.besoccer.com/new/cr7-sentenced-to-99-lashes-for-hugging-a-woman-while-taking-a-photo-1284381




https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the-sun.com/sport/9320769/cristiano-ronaldo-99-lashes-iran-georgina-rodriguez-painter/amp/
Anyone who think that this punishment would be carried out does not understand Islam.

Sharia is the justice for the poor and vulnerable : the more powerful you are the freer you become for consequences of infractions.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 4:09pm On Oct 13, 2023
SIRTee15:
TenQ u forgot the biggest one.
Jesus called himself the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Revelation
12 Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End

Allah stole Jesus divine title and named himself the first and the last.

Now my question for Muslims, why is Allah stealing Jesus divine title?
Why is he not novel or original in thoughts?
Thank you my brother for this reminder.

Muslims forget that in turning Mohammed into the equivalent of Jesus of the Christians, and they unknowingly turn him into God and partner with Allah.


With respect to Allah copying Jesus, Mohammed one of them
Instead of answering the question, said 600 years before Islam Mathew the forger changed the words by attributing what is going to be the words of God to Jesus

Can you imagine this effrontery?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 4:01pm On Oct 13, 2023
FxMasterz:
Na wá o. I'll like to hear antichristian's defence on this. May God have mercy on deceived Muslims.
AntiChristian has been pummelled into submission : he is currently feigning deaf and dumb.

He couldn't even find a diversionary post from his favourite former pastor turned imam.
LOL!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 3:57pm On Oct 13, 2023
Qasim6:
Lol
no be only Taqqiya
When we are saying 99 names of Allah, it doesn't mean Allah is restricted to 99 names. Allah did not say anywhere I only have 99 names. Those are just the names we are able to collect from the Qur'an.

For example in Quran 112 vs 1 he says

Qul huwallahu ahad

Say He, Allah is one.

And Ya is just a suffix to address someone.
Qur'an 112:1
قُلْ هُوَ اللَّهُ أَحَدٌ
Say, "He is Allah, [Who is] One of... ,


Ahad everywhere in the Qur'an means ONE OF

Does Ahad mean ONE?
Show me a sample sentence!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 3:42pm On Oct 13, 2023
ANTIlSLAM:
allah the copycat, #TenQ thank you for exposing them
Just imagine
One of them is saying that Yahweh is "Ya Huwa" in Arabic. I have asked him to show me which of the 99 names of Allah is "Ya Huwa" to no avail.

Instead of answering the question, they are say 600 years before Islam
Mathew the forger changed the words by attributing what is going to be the words of God to Jesus

Mathew must be another prophet of Allah to know this secret
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 1:53pm On Oct 13, 2023
Qasim6:
Lol
no be only Taqqiya
When we are saying 99 names of Allah, it doesn't mean Allah is restricted to 99 names. Allah did not say anywhere I only have 99 names. Those are just the names we are able to collect from the Qur'an.

For example in Quran 112 vs 1 he says

Qul huwallahu ahad

Say He, Allah is one.

And Ya is just a suffix to address someone.
Show me a Tafsir or a Hadith that agree with you except you are manufacturing conjectures as usual.

That was how someone said Hallelujah is Allah Akbar and some of you people will believe it.

Show me the compilations of the name of your God Allah that has "Ya Huwa".




So, what is the meaning of the names
1. Yakub
2. Zacharyah
3. Yahaya
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 10:03am On Oct 13, 2023
Qasim6:
You guys are reading too much into this Yahweh which is just same as Ya huwa (oh he) in Arabic.

Last I check, Elah is the Aramaic word for God.

If you are using your brain, you will know what I'm saying is Mathew the forger change the words by attributing what is going to be the words of God to Jesus
Muslims with Taqqiya!

Let's assume that you are correct!

1. Is it TRUE that Allah has 99 names?
2. I challenge you to show me which of the 99 names of Allah is "Ya Huwa" ?

You can tell lies to people who are ignorant of Islam.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 9:57am On Oct 13, 2023
Qasim6:
First thing first, before I continue with this conversation
Do you know there are early Christians that refute this crucifixion resurrection hogwash?
Knowing you Muslims that you don't keep your words, I will respond to your Question.


Yes their were heretical sects who came up at about 200-250 years after the death of Christ to refute the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
Their argument was that
1. Jesus was a spirit and thus could not be harmed and Simon was the one crucified contrary to the scriptures.
2. Jesus as God would not allow himself to be humiliated by mankind
They even said that while Simon was being taken to be Crucified, Jesus was laughing at the procession.


1. Do you believe in the Ahmadiya doctrine?
Is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad the Promised Messiah and Mahdi according to your prophet Mohammed?

2. Do you believe that after Mohammed, and there are other prophets of Allah and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is a prophet of Allah?

Do you think this view of the Ahmadi reflect the true teaching of Islam?



Now that I have answered your questions, please can you now answer mine?


Tell me
1. How did another person get crucified instead of Jesus and no one suspected?
Did Jesus have an identical twin brother?
2. When did Allah raise Jesus to himself?
Was it before or after his supposed crucifixion?
3. Did Allah inform Mary the Mother of Jesus or his Disciples that Jesus was not the one on the cross?
4. It is understandable if Allah decieved both the Jews and the Romans : Why did Allah deceive Mary the mother of Jesus, the Disciples and Followers of Jesus about the crucifixion and death of Jesus?


Please don't lump up the answers: take them by Numbers !
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 9:35am On Oct 13, 2023
Qasim6:
You are still not using the Brain God give you.
The same God that sent Jesus to Israelites is the same God that sent Muhammad to all mankind. Their message should be more or less the same

If hadith qudsi is telling us those are going to be words of Allah on judgement day, and Matthew or whosoever that forged that book is telling us is going to be words of Jesus. That's where you draw a line to their forgeries. You get it now??
1. No sir!
It is not the same God who sent Jesus and Mohammed.
Proof:
The Name of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Isaac and Jacob is YHWH - Yahweh . Jesus's name actually means "Yahweh Saves"!
The name of the God of Mohammed is Allah

Is the name of the God of the Muslims YHWH?
No!

Sorry, Mohammed is the impostor!


2. You can see how you are using your brain!

Mathew went 600 years into the future and copied the words of Allah that Allah was supposed to speak 700 year later.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 9:21am On Oct 13, 2023
Qasim6:
Do u know Quran claim Jesus was not killed not crucified? I'm sure you know.

Have u checked the crucifixion story in all the gospels? It's a complete mess

When Qur'an is telling you something and that forgery of a book is telling you otherwise, hold fast that which Qur'an says.
Let us assume that the Bible has a messed up narration of the crucifixion of Jesus buy at least, they seem to have a storyline.

I assume that Allah in his immensity should be able to narrate a better account of the crucifixion of Jesus isn't it.

Qur'an 4:157-158
And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise


Tell me
1. How did another person get crucified instead of Jesus and no one suspected?
Did Jesus have an identical twin brother?
2. When did Allah raise Jesus to himself?
Was it before or after his supposed crucifixion?
3. Did Allah inform Mary the Mother of Jesus or his Disciples that Jesus was not the one on the cross?
4. It is understandable if Allah decieved both the Jews and the Romans : Why did Allah deceive Mary the mother of Jesus, the Disciples and Followers of Jesus about the crucifixion and death of Jesus?



If you can explain this satisfactorily, I consider me reciting the sahada.

Thank you
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 8:57am On Oct 13, 2023
Qasim6:
You and I both know the earliest of those gospels was written like 90 years after Jesus. What were Christians using prior to that?

When Allah is talking about scriptures, not this forgery of a book. Books we can't even say for sure who authored them.


You can't claim God is copying from God

We believe the same God that sent Jesus to Israelites Is the same God that sent Muhammad to all mankind, so there should be similarity in their message

Let me give you a hint that will help you know where to draw a line to their forgeries.

Do u know Quran claim Jesus was not killed not crucified? I'm sure you know.

Have u checked the crucifixion story in all the gospels? It's a complete mess

When Qur'an is telling you something and that forgery of a book is telling you otherwise, hold fast that which Qur'an says.
You see that the excrement is still smelling at your buttocks.

Let's assume that the Gospel was a forgery, why is Allah copying the same forgery 600 years after.

Here it is again :

Here is the narration from Allah according to Mohammed SAW


Sahih Muslim 2569
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger as saying:
Verily, Allah , the Exalted and Glorious, would say on the Day of Resurrection: O son of Adam, I was sick but you did not visit Me. He would say: O my Lord; how could I visit Thee whereas Thou art the Lord of the worlds? Thereupon He would say: Didn't you know that such and such servant of Mine was sick but you did not visit him and were you not aware of this that if you had visited him, you would have found Me by him? O son of Adam, I asked food from you but you did not feed Me. He would say: My Lord, how could I feed Thee whereas Thou art the Lord of the worlds? He said: Didn't you know that such and such servant of Mine asked food from you but you did not feed him, and were you not aware that if you had fed him you would have found him by My side? (The Lord would again say: ) O son of Adam, I asked drink from you but you did not provide Me. He would say: My Lord, how could I provide Thee whereas Thou art the Lord of the worlds? Thereupon He would say: Such and such of servant of Mine asked you for a drink but you did not provide him, and had you provided him drink you would have found him near Me.


This hadith above is repeated with slightly different wordings in
1. Hadith 18, 40 Hadith Qudsi
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah
2. Mishkat al-Masabih 1528
On the authority of Abu Huraira

Here is Jesus saying a more detailed version of the narration in the Bible.

Mat 25:31-46:
"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit on the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say to them on his right hand, Come, you blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungered, and you gave me meat: I was thirsty, and you gave me drink: I was a stranger, and you took me in: Naked, and you clothed me: I was sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we you an hungered, and fed you? or thirsty, and gave you drink? When saw we you a stranger, and took you in? or naked, and clothed you? Or when saw we you sick, or in prison, and came to you? And the King shall answer and say to them, Truly I say to you, Inasmuch as you have done it to one of the least of these my brothers, you have done it to me. Then shall he say also to them on the left hand, Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungered, and you gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and you visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we you an hungered, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to you? Then shall he answer them, saying, Truly I say to you, Inasmuch as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."


We can see that these storylines are very similar to each other. The narrators are Jesus and Allah.



Questions :
1. Who else do you know in history to have given a similar Narrative like this: apart from Jesus?
2. Who can we say is copying who with these narratives?
3. Why is it that Jesus is claiming that which only God can do as per judgment of mankind?
4. Is Jesus the Allah Muslims do not know?
Qur'an 5:72
They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allāh is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allāh, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allāh - Allāh has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.




The questions are precise and easy to answer. Did the forgers read the mind of Allah?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 8:25am On Oct 13, 2023
Qasim6:
What I am telling you is we can't rely on a forged book to know exactly what Jesus who was only sent to lost sheep of Israelites said or did not say.
Unfortunately, you seem to know better than Allah and his prophet who even claimed that Mohammed's name is in our books.


Quran 3:3-4
He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel, Before, as guidance for the people.


Qur'an 5:46
And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous.


Qur'an 5:110
[The Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, remember My favor upon you and upon your mother when I supported you with the Pure Spirit and you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity; and [remember] when I taught you writing and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel



Secondly,
Let's assume that the Gospel is forged by fraudulent human beings:

Can you explain why the Almighty Allah and his prophet are copying that which is forged and fraudulent 600 years after the deed?


The questions are still here for you
Questions :
1. Who else do you know in history to have given a similar Narrative like this: apart from Jesus?
2. Who can we say is copying who with these narratives?
3. Why is it that Jesus is claiming that which only God can do as per judgment of mankind?
4. Is Jesus the Allah Muslims do not know?

Christianity EtcRe: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by TenQ: 8:16am On Oct 13, 2023
Explore2xmore:
What does this from my previous answer tell you?

The spirit of Allah is present in all living beings, helping them understand and follow Allah's teachings, and protecting them from evil

And previously:
Allah's essence cannot be contained or reduced to a single entity, including Jubril

Jubril plays an instrumental role in delivering divine messages, it is essential to remember that his role is just a fragment of Allah's vast wisdom and presence

Allah's spirit is not limited to a single angel or being, but rather encompasses the divine essence that is spread throughout the universe. The spirit of Allah is all-encompassing and can be felt and experienced in numerous ways, whether through the beauty of nature, the compassion in people's hearts, or the serenity found in prayer

Did Allah or God not breath his spirit into Adam? Is it all his spirit that was put into Adam?

if you are an architect and draw up a plan which you later transform into a building is it not your plan or design that you have built?
If Allah's essence is his spirit, does then it is blasphemy to call an angel "the Holy Spirit" except you don't know what a spirit is.


If it is true that:
"The spirit of Allah is present in all living beings, helping them understand and follow Allah's teachings, and protecting them from evil"
How then can an angel be called THE Holy Spirit?
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by TenQ: 8:10am On Oct 13, 2023
Explore2xmore:
What does this from my previous answer tell you?

The spirit of Allah is present in all living beings, helping them understand and follow Allah's teachings, and protecting them from evil

And previously:
Allah's essence cannot be contained or reduced to a single entity, including Jubril

Jubril plays an instrumental role in delivering divine messages, it is essential to remember that his role is just a fragment of Allah's vast wisdom and presence

Allah's spirit is not limited to a single angel or being, but rather encompasses the divine essence that is spread throughout the universe. The spirit of Allah is all-encompassing and can be felt and experienced in numerous ways, whether through the beauty of nature, the compassion in people's hearts, or the serenity found in prayer

Did Allah or God not breath his spirit into Adam? Is it all his spirit that was put into Adam?

if you are an architect and draw up a plan which you later transform into a building is it not your plan or design that you have built?
I wished you answered these questions one by one rather than lumping up your perceived answers.


Let me ask you a few questions (I hope you wouldn't dodge responding to it)
1. In Islam, what is a Spirit (Ruh)?
2. In that light, how is Jubril a spirit?
3. Are other Angels spirits?
4. In Islam, what does it mean that man was created in the image of God
5. Is islam, I what is the difference between a Soul (Nafs) and a Spirit (Ruh)


Don't you think that the answer of "what is a Spirit" will explain why "Jubril is the holy spirit"?


Are you aware that the Qur'an NEVER once called Jibril the "Holy Spirit"?
The title is reserved only for God.

Here is what Jesus said:

Mat 12:31:
"Why I say to you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven to men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven to men."




Please answer them by number so that I know what you are answering
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 7:59am On Oct 13, 2023
Qasim6:
You are funny

Matthew a supposed follower of Jesus that was present right from the beginning of Jesus ministry copied over 90% from the gospel of Mark a supposed disciple of Peter to form his own gospel and you believe that book to be genuine. I'll advice you to take such a book with a pinch of salt.

By the time those gospels were written they are already pushing the agenda of a divine, God Jesus. I'm sure Matthew or whoever wrote that gospel must have intentionally make it seem like Jesus will be the one sitting on the throne on the day of judgement making those statements.
Is this the answer to the questions

Questions :
1. Who else do you know in history to have given a similar Narrative like this: apart from Jesus?
2. Who can we say is copying who with these narratives?
3. Why is it that Jesus is claiming that which only God can do as per judgment of mankind?
4. Is Jesus the Allah Muslims do not know?


Allah and Your prophet disagrees with you bro, so please answer the questions
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 7:51am On Oct 13, 2023
Qasim6:
You and your half knowledge

What the verse is talking about is the bridge across hell we are going to pass through on the day of qiyama.

Believers will pass through easily.
1. It is a decree of Allah that Muslims will enter the Fire only that later Allah will use Christians and Jews to ransome you. LOL!
Does it make sense to you?

No sir!
There is no bridge as you would be IN the Fire.

Quran 19:71
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the Fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord


Meaning that ALL Muslims will at least first be in Hell Fire AND this is your destiny as Muslims .
Here is the Arabic if you do not like the translation above
وَإِن مِّنكُمۡ إِلَّا وَارِدُهَاۚ كَانَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّكَ حَتۡمࣰا مَّقۡضِیࣰّا

Verses 72 removes all ambiguities about the fact that it is your destiny to enter hell fire.


Quran 19:72
Then, We will save those who were cautious of Us, but the harmdoers shall be left there hobbling on their knees


After ALL you Muslims enter the Fire, THEN Allah will THEREAFTER remove the Muslims and leave others in the Fire


If you are on the Bridge as you claim, would the evil doers also be on the bridge?




2. Is it untrue that Even babies go to hell because of Allah's destiny in Islam?

Sahih Muslim, Book 32, Number 6435:
Narrated Aisha:
A child died and I said: There is happiness for this child who is a bird from amongst the birds of Paradise. Thereupon Allah's Apostle (peace_be_upon_him) said: Don't you know that Allah created the Paradise and He created the Hell and He created the dwellers for this (Paradise) and the denizens for this (Hell)?


Is this hadith Maudu or Daif?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 7:40am On Oct 13, 2023
Qasim6:
That sound more like for the sake of stupidity, your ALMIGHTY God came down from his throne to be killed by his creation so he can forgive them

Do you Pauline Christians for the sake of love also hand over cane to ur children to beat u up for their wrong doings?
From your thesis,
It seems you don't know what death is:

In Islam,
Is death a form of non-existent Annihilation?


If you don't understand this simple thing, I how can you understand the deeper things?
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by TenQ: 4:56am On Oct 13, 2023
Explore2xmore:
The overtly learned Tenq that knows it all. What course can you give me? Does your Bible deceive you to know all about God yet your Jesus messiah reports of things he knows not except the father. Father referring to almighty God.

Part of what is known of the spirit of Allah is that the spirit of Allah is an essential aspect of the Islamic faith. It provides believers with guidance, enlightenment, and strength to navigate the challenges of life.The spirit of Allah is present in all living beings, helping them understand and follow Allah's teachings, and protecting them from evil. It is through this divine spirit that believers establish a personal and profound connection with Allah and strive towards leading a life of righteousness.

“And thus We have revealed to you a spirit of Our command. You did not know what the Book was nor faith, but We made it a light, guiding thereby whom We please of Our servants. And indeed, [O Muhammad], you guide to a straight path" (Q42:52).

The spirit of Allah is not confined to an entity . It is believed that Allah's spirit is present within every individual, providing them with the capacity to seek divine knowledge, comprehend righteousness, and distinguish between right and wrong.

The spirit of God is both divine and mysterious, and possesses unique qualities that differentiate it from other creations.It is a reflection of His power and will, capable of bestowing life, guidance, and inspiration upon humans. It is depicted as an ethereal force that can intervene in worldly affairs, imparting wisdom and performing miracles.

It permeates the universe, enabling God to be aware of all things. Surah Al-Mujadila (58:7) affirms this by stating, "And God is with them [people] wherever they may be." This highlights the Quranic belief that the spirit of God is not bound by physical limitations but rather omnipresent and directly connected to creation.

Your Biblical definition has the spirit or holy spirit as part of a three or one in three like some extreme type of mathematics.

When considering John 4:24, it is crucial to appreciate the broader context of the verse and its implications. The notion of God as a spirit speaks to the spiritual realm rather than implying a corporeal existence. Spirituality encompasses the essence of God—a metaphysical presence that cannot be confined within human parameters. Identifying God as spirit underscores the infinite nature and transcendence associated with divinity.

What is God searching for like it's hidden and he is unaware of everything?

Genesis 1:27 may be understood metaphorically, highlighting that humans possess certain qualities that set them apart from the rest of creation. Unlike other creatures, humans have the ability to reason, make choices, and possess moral consciousness. This unique capacity allows individuals to contemplate and understand their relationship with God and the world, serves as a basis for ethical decision-making, and enables them to strive for personal growth and transformation. This verse should not be misunderstood to mean mankind looks like God. Far above comparison is God to anything. Perhaps as your Biblical God adopted a human form this is the likeness you refer to. For above such comparison is Allah whom nothing is like or comparable to.

Humans possess qualities that reflect the divine, whether that be spiritual characteristics or the unique capabilities that set them apart from other creatures. These however are but a tiny reflection of the divine.

Then you try to justify your trinity by attempting to describe in relation to man? Really unfortunate though as many argue that spirit and soul are synonymous and refer to the same aspect of human existence. Or you say the soul is the essence of an individual, comprising their emotions, thoughts, and consciousness. It is the part of a person that experiences and learns from the physical world, leading to personal growth and self-awareness while spirit represents the deeper, more transcendent aspect of human existence. It is often associated with the divine or higher power and is believed to hold infinite wisdom, truth, and connection to a world beyond the physical. Can you seriously separate spirit from soul this way? Jesus in your Bible refers to soul of man but not spirit. Does this not show there aren't these two in man as distinct or the same?Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Why no mention of spirit?
I am surprised that never once did you answer any of the questions below . The question is not whether a spirit is mysterious or not. I We know that it is mysterious and the source is God.

Again

Let me ask you a few questions (I hope you wouldn't dodge responding to it)
1. In Islam, what is a Spirit (Ruh)?
2. In that light, how is Jubril a spirit?
3. Are other Angels spirits?
4. In Islam, what does it mean that man was created in the image of God
5. Is islam, I what is the difference between a Soul (Nafs) and a Spirit (Ruh)


Don't avoid answering each of these questions!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 4:46am On Oct 13, 2023
*Why does Allah copy Jesus?
*Who said these words: Jesus or Allah?
*Who is copying who in this message?


Background Summary:
1. It is the day of Judgement
2. God is on the throne and judging the acts of men (sons of Adam) .
3. God says "I was sick but you didn't visit me!"
And the Unrighteous replied :
"You are the Lord of the World's: when did we see you sick but you didn't visit you? "
4. God says that He is the neighbour who these men did or did not give their help.
5. God says: If these men had helped their neighbours, they would have found out it was God they were helping


I am sure most Muslims have not heard this hadith before.

Here is the narration from Allah according to Mohammed SAW


Sahih Muslim 2569
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger as saying:
Verily, Allah , the Exalted and Glorious, would say on the Day of Resurrection: O son of Adam, I was sick but you did not visit Me. He would say: O my Lord; how could I visit Thee whereas Thou art the Lord of the worlds? Thereupon He would say: Didn't you know that such and such servant of Mine was sick but you did not visit him and were you not aware of this that if you had visited him, you would have found Me by him? O son of Adam, I asked food from you but you did not feed Me. He would say: My Lord, how could I feed Thee whereas Thou art the Lord of the worlds? He said: Didn't you know that such and such servant of Mine asked food from you but you did not feed him, and were you not aware that if you had fed him you would have found him by My side? (The Lord would again say: ) O son of Adam, I asked drink from you but you did not provide Me. He would say: My Lord, how could I provide Thee whereas Thou art the Lord of the worlds? Thereupon He would say: Such and such of servant of Mine asked you for a drink but you did not provide him, and had you provided him drink you would have found him near Me.


This hadith above is repeated with slightly different wordings in
1. Hadith 18, 40 Hadith Qudsi
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah
2. Mishkat al-Masabih 1528
On the authority of Abu Huraira

Here is Jesus saying a more detailed version of the narration in the Bible.

Mat 25:31-46:
"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit on the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say to them on his right hand, Come, you blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungered, and you gave me meat: I was thirsty, and you gave me drink: I was a stranger, and you took me in: Naked, and you clothed me: I was sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we you an hungered, and fed you? or thirsty, and gave you drink? When saw we you a stranger, and took you in? or naked, and clothed you? Or when saw we you sick, or in prison, and came to you? And the King shall answer and say to them, Truly I say to you, Inasmuch as you have done it to one of the least of these my brothers, you have done it to me. Then shall he say also to them on the left hand, Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungered, and you gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and you visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we you an hungered, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to you? Then shall he answer them, saying, Truly I say to you, Inasmuch as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."


We can see that these storylines are very similar to each other. The narrators are Jesus and Allah.



Questions :
1. Who else do you know in history to have given a similar Narrative like this: apart from Jesus?
2. Who can we say is copying who with these narratives?
3. Why is it that Jesus is claiming that which only God can do as per judgment of mankind?
4. Is Jesus the Allah Muslims do not know?
Qur'an 5:72
They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allāh is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allāh, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allāh - Allāh has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.





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Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op):
Qasim6:
grin grin grin says a man that believes his God was beaten, spat on and crucified by his creation.
Yes!
For the sake of LOVE, my God came down to His Creations to pay the price for their crime against His Absolute command so that in Justice, freedom is given to those who have His Spirit can be saved.


What did Allah do that you should be saved from the consequence of your crime against the Kunfayakun of the Almighty God?


Quran 19:71
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the Fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord


Even babies go to hell because of Allah

Sahih Muslim, Book 32, Number 6435:
Narrated Aisha:
A child died and I said: There is happiness for this child who is a bird from amongst the birds of Paradise. Thereupon Allah's Apostle (peace_be_upon_him) said: Don't you know that Allah created the Paradise and He created the Hell and He created the dwellers for this (Paradise) and the denizens for this (Hell)?





Questions :
1. Who else do you know in history to have given a similar Narrative like this: apart from Jesus?
2. Who can we say is copying who with these narratives?
3. Why is it that Jesus is claiming that which only God can do as per judgment of mankind?
4. Is Jesus the Allah Muslims do not know?
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by TenQ: 10:33pm On Oct 12, 2023
Your problem is that you can't truly define what a spirit is.
Before I ask you the questions again, I let me give you a crash course of things with respect to both Jews and Christians.

The Bible states clearly that God Himself is a Spirit!
John 4:24:
"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

A Spirit is the essence of God visible in the non material world. The Spirit is that which gives life unending to whoever God imputes it. Thus when God breathe into man of His spirit, does man became a soul that exists forever. This is the image of God.
Prov 20:27:
"The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly."

Gen 1:27:
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."


God made His Angels spirits.
Ps 104:4:
"Who (God) makes his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:"


In a layman language:
1. A Human Being is composed of a Trinity of a Body, a Soul and a Spirit (They live eternally)
2. Angels are composed of a Duality of a Soul and a Spirit. (They live eternally)
3. Demons are composed of a Duality of a Soul and a Spirit (They live eternally)
4. Animals are composed of a Duality of a Body and a Soul (They live temporarily)

The Body:
The Body is the Physical component of who you are. It was given by God to interact with the physical realm.
The Soul:
The Soul is the Emotional, Intellectual and Decision part of a Being. The soul is the Personal identity of a person.
The Spirit:
The Spirit is the Spiritual component of who you are. you It was given by God to interact with the spiritual realm. The Spirit of man gives him the attribute of a Conscience and Faith and Spiritual Awareness.

No one is equating any being to God: this is impossible. God through His spirit gives man and angels some of his attributes.


You can see how these makes logical sense to both Jews and Christians.


Explore2xmore:
Did Allah or God not breath his spirit into Adam? Is it all his spirit that was put into Adam?
Do you not exist by having some spirit comprising you? This spirit is from where?

It seems you are having trouble differentiating how everything that exist is from the almighty as there was nothing but him until he created.

All authority belongs to the almighty yet you exhibit authority over some things. Does this make you equal to God or God. Does whatever authority you seem to possess not come under the supreme authority?

The attribute seen in Jibril is not equal to this same attribute of Allah. Can Jibril do anything that Allah doesn't command done by him?



Remember too Jibril r.a is likely amongst the angels that bowed before Adam
NOW:
Let me ask you a few questions (I hope you wouldn't dodge responding to it)
1. In Islam, what is a Spirit (Ruh)?
2. In that light, how is Jubril a spirit?
3. Are other Angels spirits?
4. In Islam, what does it mean that man was created in the image of God
5. Is islam, I what is the difference between a Soul (Nafs) and a Spirit (Ruh)



Don't avoid answering each of these questions!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 7:53pm On Oct 12, 2023
FxMasterz:
Lol.

The guy just dey crack my ribs anyhow? Haha, im be good comedian.
Immediately I knew that he was either an imposter or an ignoramus

1. Zechariah is an Arab man
2. A descendant of John
3. and is one of the author of new testament


Only an ignorant person say this
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 2:42pm On Oct 12, 2023
Bliss52:
Why is Jesus a gypsy and rumored Gay with 12 gay disciples

Do you like such question about your own religion?!

Why a Catholic notorious gay how about that for a question

Ok this last was it through Jesus fvcked Mary Magdalene

When you answer this

Then perhaps you might understand that linking Mohammed , Quran and Shatan or satanism show stupidity and immaturity and that's not how educated people argue
Thank you
Here is what early Muslim scholars say about the satanic verses

Al Waqidi
"On a certain day, the chief men of Mecca, assembled in a group beside the Kaaba, discussed as was their wont the affairs of the city; when Mahomet appeared and, seating himself by them in a friendly manner, began to recite in their hearing the 53 Sura.... "
"And see ye not Lat and Ozza, and Manat the third besides?"

"When he had reached this verse, the devil suggested an expression of the thoughts which for many a day had possessed his soul; and put into his mouth words of reconciliation and compromise, the revelation of which he had been longing for from God, namely;

"These are the exalted Females, and verily their intercession is to be hoped for"

"The Coreish were surprised and delighted with this acknowledgement of their deities; and as Mahomet wound up the Sura with the closing words

"Wherefore bow down before God, and serve Him"

"the whole assembly prostrated themselves with one accord on the ground and worshipped. Walid alone, the son of Mughira, unable from the infirmities of age to bow down, took a handful of earth and worshipped, pressing it to his forehead."

"And all the people were pleased at that which Mahomet had spoke, and they began to say, "Now we know that it is the Lord alone that give life and takes it away, that created and supports. These our goddesses make intercession with Him for us; and as thou has conceded unto them a portion, we are content to follow thee". But their words disquieted Mahomet, and he retired to his house. In the evening Gabriel visited him; and the prophet recited the Sura unto him. And Gabriel said, "What is this that thou has done? Thou has repeated before the people words that I never gave unto thee". So Mahomet grieved sore, and feared the Lord greatly; and he said, "I have spoken of God that which He had not said." But the Lord comforted His prophet, and restored his confidence, and cancelled the verse, and revealed the true reading thereof (as it now stands), namely,

"And see ye not Lat and Ozza, and Manat the third beside? What! Shall there be male progeny unto you, and female unto him? That were indeed an unjust partition! They are naught but names, which ye and your Fathers have invented, etc."


The Life of Mahomet", Volume 2, pp. 150 - 152, by W. Muir, quoting "Kitab al-Wakidi", published in London.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 2:02pm On Oct 12, 2023
Maynman:
Okay, Yahweh worshipper.
https://www.thetorah.com/article/yhwh-the-original-arabic-meaning-of-the-name
Why were you feigning to be Bliss52?


You've come to a point when you are now aware that people ignore you!?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 1:59pm On Oct 12, 2023
MightySparrow:
Tale by the Moonlight or. Arabian Nights.
Hahaha grin grin grin
Don't mind them.

They enjoy being told lies as they have accepted to swallow a foundation of lies.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 1:58pm On Oct 12, 2023
Maynman:
What's the origin of the name Solomon?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0-L-M
You changed Monica again!?

The question was :
Who is YHWH in Islam?

If you don't know, I this thread is not for you
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 1:55pm On Oct 12, 2023
Bliss52:
You started with sense try and not get sentimental and start insult

Gabriel, Jubril gave Mohammed Quran only an idiot would even dispute that

Assuming you are not an idiot then don't demonize anybody's Religion or Quran by linking it to Satan

Answer the Question :

At least I know you are just pretending to be a Muslim

How come when Shaitaan was giving Mohammed the Qur'an, he didn't know that this was not Jibril?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 1:54pm On Oct 12, 2023
Finestgurlie:
na lie
Don't mind him.

I think this is Maynman feigning to be someone else.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Allah Seem To Copy Jesus Words? by TenQ(op): 1:52pm On Oct 12, 2023
Bliss52:
Kindly read when Moses asked God for his name in your Bible

YWWH is not Hebrew or Arabic, it's unknown Language of the Gods

Go and read Exodus especially 3 when the spirit appeared

Again go and read about mythological books of all Semmitics YHWH is not even exclusive to christian Jew or Islam

Even Pagan call YHWH

YHWH exist in many spell books 5th and 6th book of Moses even 7th magic book, same as Solomon magic books
1. From this, I can see clearly that you are Not a Muslim.
2. At best, but you are a low-budget Maynman as you have the same signature or Maynman himself.

If you are not a Muslim, how can you speak of Islam. No wonder you muddle everything up.


Is their anything like YHWH in Islam?

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