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honesttalk21:
Are you tired or stuck? Complete what you are doing and show it. What's keeping you from fully demonstrating?

Don't hang the punch, deliver!

You have just proven how ignorant you are of what you profess. I have written
7 sentences for you each containing Ahad. I have given you the liberty to discounternance any sentence involving Ahadun.

Are you scared? You asked a question: what is Ahad? Here you are:


1. الولايات المتحدة أحد أكبر المناهل للتقدم عبر تاريخ العالم

2. طابَقَتْ أَوْصافُهُ أَوْصافَ أَحَدِ المُتَّهِمينَ

3. يَنْبَغي أنْ يُرافِقَها أَحَدٌ ما

4. أَيَّ واحِدٍ؟ هذا أم ذاكَ الّذي هُناكَ؟

5. عِنْدَما يَتَعَلَّقُ الأَمْرُ بالتِنِس، فَلا يَسْتَطيعُ أَحَدٌ أنْ يُباريهِ

6. طابَقَتْ أَوْصافُهُ أَوْصافَ أَحَدِ المُتَّهِمينَ

7. هل يُمْكِنُكَ أنْ تُعيرَنا أَحَدَ مُوَظَّفيكَ لِيَوْمٍ واحِدٍ؟

Translate each and let's see what Ahad as a stand alone mean!

Modified :
Ignore statement 4 as it uses the word wahid rather than ahad!

Delightsome2023:
I believe the Chief of Defense which is a christian from southern kaduna represents since they're a bit affiliated with middlebelts and see themselves as one

True!
But people in the NC can never see it like that. The important thing is if Tinubu can give more opportunities to the SE and NC in other appointments.

He's light years ahead of Buhari as president though!

franchasofficia:
Yes, I was expecting Tinubu to appoint IG or Chief of Army Staff from the Northcentral or Southeast to deal with the Buhari manufactured insecurities in Northcentral and Southeast, but let's watch and see.

Let's watch and see.
He has performed well in his first 20 days as president.

FxMasterz:
That's it. The reason why I call Atheism a fool's religion. The rebellion is not really an act of ignorance but a deliberate attempt to spite God.

Bro, I use to compare Mohammed with the disciples of Christ, the great men of God who have ever lived and those still living, and then the average believer who has an encounter with the Lord. When I look at the results in the lives of average Christians - the evidences of love, power and Communion with God, I conclude that the average Christian is far greater than Mohammed whom Muslims worship. Mohammed never prophesied or worked a single miracle in his entire life, yet millions of normal Christians have prophesied, healed the sick, cast out demons and even raised the dead. What exact benefit do Muslims derive from Mohammed?

Atheism is a religion of SELF!
I, ME and MYSELF become "the god" to myself. A self delusion based on rebellion against the Rule and Authority of the Sovereign God.

Mohammed :
He's just a 419 who created Islam as a means of survival after squandering the wealth he inherited from his first wife.
By the Fruit of his character alone, even the blind can see that Mohammed cannot be a servant of God!

Delightsome2023:
NC already occupies the position of SGF in the person of George Akume representing NC (Benue)

I mean as one of our security chiefs as banditry is more in the region!

FxMasterz:
Truly, Muslims are deceived while atheists on the other hand are willing agents of rebellion against God. You see, an atheist would continue to rebel even if he sees miracles live and direct. It changes nothing.

I agree with you perfectly.

Atheists do not care about the truth!
They are unified by their rejection of God as an Authority over them. QED!

kayone2:
All we just want is a new Nigeria free of terrorism, corruption, nepotism (ethnic and religious), etc where no one is above the law and all Nigerians is given a sense of belonging, and human right is respected, and ordinary Nigerians get justice without knowing anybody, and there's plenty job for our youths to earn a decent living.

Whether Igbo, Hausa or Yoruba, let things start working again in this country for everybody, as the curse of Buhari's era is over.

However, Obi is coming...

Tinubu is only cleaning the streets for the people's president.

Even though the NC is missing, we should give this to Tinubu, he has tried to be fair and balanced.
May he live long and be in good strength and health

gaskiyamagana:
Alhamdulillah, whatever l said or my assessment of you, your thinking and mission are always manifest in issue you are raising.
Reminder
I have been saying it that :
1. You are confused, out of ignorant, hatred and bigotry, about ALLAH, Qur'an, Islam and Muslims. The worse of it is that you are not ready to take to correction.
2. You have Christianized Arabic, Qur'an and volumes of fake Hadiths, with which you muddle falsehood with truth about Allah, Qur'an, Islam and Muslims.
Your 1 and 2 are products of my 1 and 2.
Unlike you , who used to argue, condemn and criticize out of lies or fabrication, I am not the one who labels Bible as such. Besides Jeremiah 8:8, Allah too revealed to Muhammad (saw) in the Quran that New Tastament and Old testament have been curropted.

Let's assume that I am confused, out of ignorant, hatred and bigotry, about ALLAH, Qur'an, Islam and Muslims and that worse of it is that I am not ready to take to correction.
Why is it difficult to answer the two simple questions?


Note:
If you claim that I Christianized Arabic, Qur'an and produce volumes of fake Hadiths, with which you muddle falsehood with truth about Allah, Qur'an, Islam and Muslims.
Can you post just ONE fake hadith that is not from your Islamic sources which I have ever quoted?




I believe the questions I asked are easy to comprehend.

1. How come your Quran is according to the RECITATION of Hafs rather than the copy of the Quran of Uthman?

2. Where is the Quran of Uthman?


If the Bible is as you have called it, perhaps you are now more knowledgeable than Allah and your prophet as they both seem to disagree with you

FxMasterz:
Atheism is in itself a fools religion. They're very blind. Not small blindness.

Muslims on the other hand prefer to look the other way whenever you show them anything wrong in their Quran, but are quick to criticise the Bible out of context to start poking their noses into things they don't understand. Once you explain things to them and show them the real message the scripture they're quoting carries, they'll then turn back to tell you that you also quoted their Quran out of context. Very confused people.

The pagan on the other hand is so confused that he thinks bowing down to wood and stone is the most honourable exercise on earth.

Keep up the good works thus far. They must hear the truth by force. What they do with this truth is left to them and their conscience.

They bow down towards the black stone and kiss it for forgiveness of sin, yet they insist the stone is no partner with Allah. They associate Mohammed's name with Allah in knowledge and in creed, yet they feign ignorance. What a pity.

If Muslims are Deceived and 419ed, such cannot be said of Atheists. The spirit of Satan is in full work in them as willing accomplice in rebellion against God.


For the

honesttalk21:
Place your arabic alongside English and show that ahad means something else other than one.

No sir!
Do the translation. If you like remove any sentence with Ahadun and focus only on those that strictly uses Ahad Then, tell me what Ahad mean if it is different from what I've told you.

1. الولايات المتحدة أحد أكبر المناهل للتقدم عبر تاريخ العالم

2. طابَقَتْ أَوْصافُهُ أَوْصافَ أَحَدِ المُتَّهِمينَ

3. يَنْبَغي أنْ يُرافِقَها أَحَدٌ ما

4. أَيَّ واحِدٍ؟ هذا أم ذاكَ الّذي هُناكَ؟

5. عِنْدَما يَتَعَلَّقُ الأَمْرُ بالتِنِس، فَلا يَسْتَطيعُ أَحَدٌ أنْ يُباريهِ

6. طابَقَتْ أَوْصافُهُ أَوْصافَ أَحَدِ المُتَّهِمينَ

7. هل يُمْكِنُكَ أنْ تُعيرَنا أَحَدَ مُوَظَّفيكَ لِيَوْمٍ واحِدٍ؟

Translate each and let's see what Ahad as a stand alone mean!

FxMasterz:
Yeah.

They go about condemning the Bible while quoting the scriptures upside down. Especially atheists with very defective reasonings and faulty ideologies.

I find it funny how they twist and turn when you ask them simple questions with regards to what their religion teaches.

What is a spirit?
They don't know!

Who is the Holy Spirit?
They don't know!

Who is Israel?
They don't know!

But they can criticise the bible

Like you said: atheists are the worst. I can understand why the Bible calls them fools

FxMasterz:
Religion is spiritual captivity. A fully grown human would be following senseless religious rites, defend lies and even attack his own sensibility while congratulating himself for doing the right things.

Unfortunately only a fool condemns what he knows nothing about

LordReed:
If you are looking at it from that point of view why are you attributing it to atheists? Are you now an atheist?

I guess it's obvious to you how shallow your arguments are when confronted with issues about morality.

LordReed:
The point is if you are comparing these to arguments to arguments atheists have made then we to see if it is a valid comparison. You can't be saying these are arguments atheists have made when it is not true.

I am looking at it from a purely rational point of view
1. Animals play sex from before they are biologically ready
2. No child is harmed and the teachers are even professionals
3. I don't think there is a medical consequence for children playing sex as long as they don't do the real thing and get pregnant.
4. Part of their lessons would be safe sex
5. The teachers are teaching the children about sex and sexuality, through masturbation therapy

How good can these arguments be?

FxMasterz:
Lol.

How can they have an adequate response to this question?

LOL

LordReed:
Not changing the subject, where have atheists been using these arguments.

When they argue about sin, homosexuality etc with those who believe in God. They make arguments LIKE I have shown. But that is not the point for now

I am looking at it from a purely rational point of view
1. Animals play sex from before they are biologically ready
2. No child is harmed and the teachers are even professionals
3. I don't think there is a medical consequence for children playing sex as long as they don't do the real thing and get pregnant.
4. Part of their lessons would be safe sex
5. The teachers are teaching the children about sex and sexuality, through masturbation therapy

How good can these arguments be?

LordReed:
Show me where atheists have been making these same kind of arguments.

Don't change the subject!

I am looking at it from a purely rational point of view
1. Animals play sex from before they are biologically ready
2. No child is harmed and the teachers are even professionals
3. I don't think there is a medical consequence for children playing sex as long as they don't do the real thing and get pregnant.
4. Part of their lessons would be safe sex
5. The teachers are teaching the children about sex and sexuality, through masturbation therapy

How good can these arguments be?

LordReed:
Show me where atheists have been arguing that we should teach children that haven't even hit puberty to masturbate.

I didn't say this o!

I said, Atheists have been using the same kind of arguments I have posted: it is not about masturbation.

Please don't change that subject!

Again :

I am looking at it from a purely rational point of view
1. Animals play sex from before they are biologically ready
2. No child is harmed and the teachers are even professionals
3. I don't think there is a medical consequence for children playing sex as long as they don't do the real thing and get pregnant.
4. Part of their lessons would be safe sex
5. The teachers are teaching the children about sex and sexuality, through masturbation therapy

How good can these be?

LordReed:
Why do you think good and evil are the only way to classify things?

I don't think this is necessary for kids this young. At least allow them to start puberty so that the physical changes can be put into context and managed. I don't see the benefit in telling young children some of these information especially without engaging parents as way to smooth out the rough edges in the delivery of this information. I knew about sperm and egg, pregnancy, puberty, etc as early as 8 years old and it was from my parents.

I am looking at it from a purely rational point of view
1. Animals play sex from before they are biologically ready
2. No child is harmed and the teachers are even professionals
3. I don't think there is a medical consequence for children playing sex as long as they don't do the real thing and get pregnant.
4. Part of their lessons would be safe sex
5. The teachers are teaching the children about sex and sexuality, through masturbation therapy

How good can these be?
Atheists have used these arguments for ages?!

honesttalk21:
Ahad alone means what?

Not in combination as ahaduhum, ahadin, ahadukum, ahadahumu.

What I wanted you to see that everyttime but one time Ahad was used in The Qur'an it had to do with ONE out of a group or ONE out of Many or referring to Unity.

You said:
Ahad alone mean what?

This was exactly why I wish you translate these statements : each has Ahad as a standalone with no combination with anything.

1. الولايات المتحدة أحد أكبر المناهل للتقدم عبر تاريخ العالم

2. طابَقَتْ أَوْصافُهُ أَوْصافَ أَحَدِ المُتَّهِمينَ

3. يَنْبَغي أنْ يُرافِقَها أَحَدٌ ما

4. أَيَّ واحِدٍ؟ هذا أم ذاكَ الّذي هُناكَ؟

5. عِنْدَما يَتَعَلَّقُ الأَمْرُ بالتِنِس، فَلا يَسْتَطيعُ أَحَدٌ أنْ يُباريهِ

6. طابَقَتْ أَوْصافُهُ أَوْصافَ أَحَدِ المُتَّهِمينَ

7. هل يُمْكِنُكَ أنْ تُعيرَنا أَحَدَ مُوَظَّفيكَ لِيَوْمٍ واحِدٍ؟

Translate each and let's see what Ahad as a stand alone mean!

LordReed:
Where did I say anything about evil?

What end does this meet?

If you don't think it is evil, is it good?

You don't approve of it, thus I assume you think it is evil.

I just want to know WHY you don't approve of this behavior by your contemporaries!

LordReed:
Same question we should ask you. should we take you seriously at all?

Why would you think this is evil?
Shouldn't the end justify the means!?

honesttalk21:
Wonderful! You now write in arabic and include statements that bare no relations to the discussion. Is this to confer a mastery of Arabic on yourself in the view of others?

Numerated point by point what is the gibberish (in relation to this discussion) that you put up?

Now you are getting overtly abusive to what end?

I have shown in my earlier response the folly in you forcing other meaning to Ahad.

Don't get drowned in your erroneous thinking.

Just to show how shallow your reasoning is!
Sorry, you lose!!

You didn't Translate to English the sentences so that we can see what Ahad means!

LordReed:
I should speak up against things I disagree with, it's that simple. You exercise it all the time, why do you think I shouldn't?

Why should you disagree with that which is natural?
It can be established that no one is hurt by this acts of teaching 11 year old children how to masturbate by their trained teachers.

Should we take you serious simply because you disagree with such knowledge?

honesttalk21:
Yipee! He brings forth his claim of proof but still displays a lack of knowledge. Do get an exact word for word translation
Observations.
2:96
Do you not see that Ahad is different from aha[b]duhum[/b] of course you choose to pick your arabic that hum (haw + mim) means them so in combination with Ahad it is one of them.

2:136
Is Ahadin the same as Ahad(un)?
You are not aware of the importance of pronunciation in arabic or other languages ? @gaskiyamagana isn't proper pronunciation important for recitation
This here means any.
2:266
Ahadukum again not Ahad. One of you
2:285
Again Ahadin not Ahad
3:84
This is Ahadin again
3:153 is another Ahadin
4:18 is Ahad ahumu one of them
4:43 is Ahadun minkum the latter means of you the former is one. Do recheck there are two seperate word formations. Ahadun then minkum
4:152 Ahadin is any/one. Minhum is of them.
You are really trying to force your version of truth. I don't subscribe to a lie told so often it then becomes the truth.
5:20 is ahadan not ahad again which means anyone
5:27 Aha(dihima) bracket inserted to show it's now compounded to a phrase. Hima on it's own means they and so combined with ahad is one of them. Note ahad is still one.
5:115 Ahadan not ahad meaning anyone
6:61 Ahadakumu not ahad meaning anyone of you (notice any connection with ahadan?)
9:6 Ahadun. Maybe this is the closest you have brought but again it confirms ahad as one. Wa in (arabic meaning and if) Ahadun (one) of the polytheist ......
In translation of the meaning anyone is appropriate to not restrict the provision of safety to a singular polytheist but anyone amongst them.

Do take note of how ahad is connected with other words

There is no way a donkey will comprehend simple things like this, therefore I will just make a few statements

1. الولايات المتحدة أحد أكبر المناهل للتقدم عبر تاريخ العالم

2. طابَقَتْ أَوْصافُهُ أَوْصافَ أَحَدِ المُتَّهِمينَ

3. يَنْبَغي أنْ يُرافِقَها أَحَدٌ ما

4. أَيَّ واحِدٍ؟ هذا أم ذاكَ الّذي هُناكَ؟

5. عِنْدَما يَتَعَلَّقُ الأَمْرُ بالتِنِس، فَلا يَسْتَطيعُ أَحَدٌ أنْ يُباريهِ

6. طابَقَتْ أَوْصافُهُ أَوْصافَ أَحَدِ المُتَّهِمينَ

7. هل يُمْكِنُكَ أنْ تُعيرَنا أَحَدَ مُوَظَّفيكَ لِيَوْمٍ واحِدٍ؟

It is so pathetic your understanding is this shallow!

LordReed:
LoLz. I have every right to criticise it. It is funny how the concepts of freedom and consent eludes you.

Why should you?

Simple home assignments of masturbation for 11 year old kids that hurt just one!

BTW: You are invited!
My LGBTQ cockrels will start laying soon then you'll eat some scrambled eggs!

[quote author=budaatum post=123891042][/quote]LOL!
My LGBTQ cockrels will start laying soon then you'll eat scrambled eggs!

Holiness2100:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-AYfe_l3oc


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12204603/amp/Vladimir-Putin-tells-West-hell-despot-confirms-nuclear-weapons-moved-Belarus.html

As if Russia is immune to Nuclear weapons too!

China is waiting to take over the world after Russia and NATO has annihilated each other

lhordspy:
Twelve-year-olds are being taught about anal sex in school while nine-year-olds are told to 'masturbate' for homework: The shocking lesson plans used by teachers in UK classrooms

* Many teachers are 'indoctrinating' children with scientifically false claims about biological sex, presenting gender as fluid and furthering the 'trans' narrative that people can be born in the wrong body.



MailOnline can reveal that some children are:


REACTIONS


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12189041/Twelve-year-olds-taught-anal-sex-school-nine-year-olds-told-masturbate.html

LordReed, Budaatum, UnknownUnknown, triplechoice and Co.

See your people!
This is exactly what happens when humans decide to set their own standard of morality outside God.

You don't have any moral right to criticise this behaviour, do you!?

gaskiyamagana:
Just as Bible was falsified, mutilated, and infiltrated; he is trying hard - but failure bound - to make Islam and Qur'an to suffer the fate of Christianity and Bible.

Let me ask you a question!


1. How come your Quran is according to the RECITATION of Hafs rather than the copy of the Quran of Uthman?

2. Where is the Quran of Uthman?

If the Bible is as you have called it, perhaps you are now more knowledgeable than Allah and your prophet as they both seem to disagree with you

Coder2Client:
Done.

I got them. Thanks too much

honesttalk21:
You state that Ahad is used 85 times in the Quran 😁, do show me/us (the nairaland forum) 3 other times it has been used other than in Quran 112:1.

AHAD is ALWAYS used when you are describing ONE out of a GROUP or a SET (One Of something); 99% of the time, Ahad is described as such in the Quran; Who is hiding something in the English TRANSLATION of the Quran?

Let me oblige you with my lies and lack of proof not with three but fourteen verses out of the at least 85 verses

Quran 2:96 ahaduhum
96. And thou wilt find them greediest of mankind for life and (greedier) than the idolaters. (Each) one of them would like to be allowed to live a thousand years. And to live (a thousand years) would be no means remove him from the doom. Allah is Seer of what they do.

Quran 2:136 ahadin
136. Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered.


Quran 2:266 ahadukum
266. Does any of you wish that he should have a garden with date-palms and vines and streams flowing underneath, and all kinds of fruit, while he is stricken with old age, and his children are not strong (enough to look after themselves)- that it should be caught in a whirlwind, with fire therein, and be burnt up? Thus doth Allah make clear to you (His) Signs; that ye may consider.

Quran 2:285 ahadin
285. The Messenger believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one (of them) believeth in Allah, His angels, His books, and His messengers. "We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of His messengers." And they say: "We hear, and we obey: (We seek) Thy forgiveness, our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys."

Quran 3:84
84. Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)."

Quran 3:153 ahadin
153. Behold! ye were climbing up the high ground, without even casting a side glance at any one, and the Messenger in your rear was calling you back. There did Allah give you one distress after another by way of requital, to teach you not to grieve for (the booty) that had escaped you and for (the ill) that had befallen you. For Allah is well aware of all that ye do.


Quran 4:18 ahadahumu
18. Of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil, until death faces one of them, and he says, "Now have I repented indeed;" nor of those who die rejecting Faith: for them have We prepared a punishment most grievous

Quran 4:43 ahadun
43. O ye who believe! Approach not prayers with a mind befogged, until ye can understand all that ye say,- nor in a state of ceremonial impurity (Except when travelling on the road), until after washing your whole body. If ye are ill, or on a journey, or one of you cometh from offices of nature, or ye have been in contact with women, and ye find no water, then take for yourselves clean sand or earth, and rub therewith your faces and hands. For Allah doth blot out sins and forgive again and again.

Quran 4:152 ahadin
152. To those who believe in Allah and His messengers and make no distinction between any of the messengers, we shall soon give their (due) rewards: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

Quran 5:20 ahadan
20. Remember Moses said to his people: "O my people! Call in remembrance the favour of Allah unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any one among the peoples.

Quran 5:27 ahadihima
27. Recite to them the truth of the story of the two sons of Adam. Behold! they each presented a sacrifice (to Allah): It was accepted from one, but not from the other. Said the latter: "Be sure I will slay thee." "Surely," said the former, "Allah doth accept of the sacrifice of those who are righteous.

Quran 5:115 ahadan
115. Allah said: "I will send it down unto you: But if any of you after that resisteth faith, I will punish him with a penalty such as I have not inflicted on any one among all the peoples."

Quran 6:61 ahadakumu
61. He is the irresistible, (watching) from above over His worshippers, and He sets guardians over you. At length, when death approaches one of you, Our angels take his soul, and they never fail in their duty.

Quran 9:6 ahadun
6. If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge.



Unfortunately, your arabic is extremely shallow: gaskiamagana warned you but you wouldn't listen. Shouldn't you apologize for wasting my time over what you should have known even better than me?

Did you notice that EVERYTIME Ahad is used, it has to do with ONE OF a group?

Here is an Islamic Website:
Ahad comes from the root hamza-haa-daal, which points to two main meanings. The first meaning is to be the only one and sole. The second main meaning is to unite or unify.
This root appears 85 times in the Quran in 2 derived forms. Examples of these forms are ahadun (“anyone”), ahadukum (“one of you”) and ihdaa (“any, one”).
https://understandquran.com/answer-al-ahad/


Don t you see that you need to apologize to me for saying:
1. Of course there is no need because your claim is just a big lie.
2. You make a statement and cannot proof.