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gaskiyamagana:
"Come on you " like how
How was the power of the Highest 'overshadow' her?

Exactly Like the Power of the Sunlight Overshadow you Outdoors during the Sunny day!


You haven't answered my question

Is this holy Cunnilingus by Jibril?
If Mary didn't see an Angel (come to her) but a man, how did he (Jubril) blow into Mary's Vagina?

What is Jubril's mouth doing on the vagina of Mary? What was he blowing into Mary's Vagina? I am struggling not to imagine how Jubril has to plug his mouth to fit Mary's Vagina for the purpose of Blowing!

Over to you!

IMAliyu:
The scientific miracles claim was the first thing to erode for me.
It only makes sense and is convincing to someone ignorant of the actual science.
I saw way too many inconsistencies to take it seriously, and chose to believe the Quran contained more metaphorically and spiritual truths, which also eventually eroded away.

What's interesting about it is that it's a relatively new form of apologetics for Muslims, and was a copy of the christian "Biblical science" and the entire thing was mostly funded by the Saudis.

It's interesting to see a prominent Muslim apologist reject it now, as it's been a common talking point on the internet for a while now.

I appreciate your honesty in this matter.
I think the issue or problem is the Over EXAGERATION of the Islamic Standard Narratives versus the Claims of the Qur'an with the Hadiths. These two are often at variance that only the Obstinate or Gullible or Ignorant can successfully hold such positions.
Examples:
1. The Qur'an is the exact words of Allah dictated through Jibril
However,
When you read the Qur'an, you see that Allah prays, Allah makes several statements that look like someone else is invoking Allah etc
2. There is only one Qur'an perfectly identical and unchanged as revealed to Mohammed
However,
We see up to 30 different Arabic Qur'ans of which the Warsh Qur'an and the Hafs Qur'an are the most popular
3. Mohammed is the best example for Mankind
However.
We see Mohammed performing the in-excusable act of marrying Zainab, the wife of his adopted son
4. The Scientific Miracles Argument of the Qur'an
However,
Allah himself says no Miracles was given to Mohammed and existence of many Scientific inaccuracies in the Qur'an.
5. The Holy Spirit is Jibril
However,
Not one verse of the Qur'an says that. I fact Muslims cannot say with certainty what a spirit is
etc. etc..
This conflict is the main issue.

IMAliyu:
While I don't mind your exposition of the holes in Islam, you're presenting this stuff with a false dichotomy in mind that it's an Islam vs Christianity thing and disproving one of these validates the other. I've had arguments with christians that think the bible is a book containing actual science, they're also wrong fam.

You may have a point here but I wasn't comparing and contrasting Islam and Christianity.

The Muslims drew the first Blood.
How?
When they saw that there were contradictions between the Quran and the Bible, they Quickly started promoting the narrative that the Bible has been changed and falsified by Christians.
They created their own Trinity: meaning three Gods and they use it to convert Christians to Islam based on lies.
They created their own Jesus who preached ONLY the oneness of Allah and is a Muslim.
They are encouraged to marry our women as an act of making babies for Allah
Even though they claim that their Allah is the same as the God of the Christians, they thought it wise to impose Jizya with Humiliation upon Christians when they have the political power and population to do so.
They are madated to calling Christians Najis and force them to the sewers when they meet us on the road.

I was almost converted to Islam in my 200 Levels at the University (Thanks to Ahmed Deedat). Fortunately, before reciting the shahada, I decided to get myself the Quran in English (The Glorious Quran): I started reading from Al-Fathia and I never even reached half way when the overwhelming contradictions between the Bible and the Quran made me slow down and rethink. I went back to study Both Christianity and Islam from a critique point of view...the rest is history. I dedicated my life back to Christ and I never stopped LEARNING! Allah and the God of the Christians and Jews is NOT the same IDENTITY!

Islam is based on CASCADES of LIES right from Mohammed down to the modern Islamic Apologists


My Objective:
To help Muslims ASK QUESTIONS they would never have asked and hopefully seek the TRUTH!
When they find the TRUTH, the rest is easy!
They should ASK about the Messiah!

AntiChristian:
Actually God was allotted 32 virgins in Numbers 31:40 after Moses ordered all their families and non-virgins to be killed.

Was God writing those poems to inspire the virgins with boobs?



LUKE 1:35 HAS EXPLIANED IT!

HOLY SPIRIT OVERSHADOWED MARY TO GET SON OF GOD JESUS!

You can allow your imaginations to run as wild as you are as your Allah says he is the same as the God of Moses and the God of Mary.
If you think Allah need to have sex with virgin, so be it.


You haven't answered my question

Is this holy Cunnilingus by Jibril?
If Mary didn't see an Angel (come to her) but a man, how did he (Jubril) blow into Mary's Vagina?


What is Jubril's mouth doing on the vagina of Mary? What was he blowing into Mary's Vagina? I am struggling not to imagine how Jubril has to plug his mouth to fit Mary's Vagina for the purpose of Blowing!

Over to you!

AntiChristian:
So you mean your God was interested in love, sex, boobs, women? And is that why he was allotted 32 virgins in Numbers 31:40?

See how you talk exactly like satan?!
Your words not mine!

AntiChristian:
As usual, the answer to your stupid question should also be a commensurate one!
The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you (MARY). So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God. Luke 1:35

The verse above is explicit enough!

Let say HOLY SPIRIT = ANGEL JUBRIL,
I think you meant that Holy spirit raped Mary to give birth to your son of God according to the Bible?

It's like sin against the Holy Spirit is no more unforgivable in Christianity/Christendom?

Tifiak..!

Only in Islam is the Holy Spirit Jubril: thus, you may be referring to your Allah!



You haven't answered my question

Is this holy Cunnilingus by Jibril?
If Mary didn't see an Angel (come to her) but a man, how did he (Jubril) blow into Mary's Vagina?


What is Jubril's mouth doing on the vagina of Mary? What was he blowing into Mary's Vagina? I am struggling not to imagine how Jubril has to plug his mouth to fit Mary's Vagina for the purpose of Blowing!

Over to you!

AntiChristian:
So why does your God have to inspire one man to write so much about boobs, kiss, desire and lust in the so called Book of God?

God created human beings to have emotional attraction and love for the opposite sex. You probably didn't read this as your question had been answered

The Songs of Solomon is a duet and Love Song.

The Book of Song of Solomon, also known as the Song of Songs or Canticles, is a poetic and allegorical book found in the Old Testament of the Bible.

The main message and purpose of the Song of Solomon revolve around love, desire, and the beauty of human relationships, particularly the romantic love between a bride and a bridegroom.

Overall, the book emphasizes the power and beauty of love and its ability to bring joy, fulfillment, and intimacy to human relationships. It highlights the importance of cherishing and nurturing love while recognizing the challenges and complexities that can arise within it.


It is Okay if you feel that it is vulgar and God shouldn't be interested in human romantic love.





You haven't answered my question

Is this holy Cunnilingus by Jibril?
If Mary didn't see an Angel (come to her) but a man, how did he (Jubril) blow into Mary's Vagina?


What is Jubril's mouth doing on the vagina of Mary? What was he blowing into Mary's Vagina? I am struggling not to imagine how Jubril has to plug his mouth to fit Mary's Vagina for the purpose of Blowing!

Over to you!

gaskiyamagana:
Laughing unlimited.
According to Islamic source?
The lamb of Biblical God breed?
He wrote satanic verses and burn it in the presence of enemies of Islam?
Seven dialects of Arabic Qur'an but reduced to ONE, why? Good, you recognize QUR'AN is reduced to ONE, when and who will reduce Bible to one like you said of Qur'an?
Why were you short of quotations or references from your Christianized sources to back up your lies?

Are you sure you want references from Islamic source And you will accept them?

You haven't answered my question

Is this holy Cunnilingus by Jibril?
If Mary didn't see an Angel (come to her) but a man, how did he (Jubril) blow into Mary's Vagina?


Tell me that this is Not from the Qur'an or it is from Christianized sources!?

gaskiyamagana:
Give name , year and those who edited QUR'AN as we have name , year and those responsible for tens of edition of Bibles.

The first editing was done by a Mohammed according to Islamic sources.
1. He wrote the satanic verses as Qur'an then he deleted it.
2. Without any instruction from Allah or Jubril, Mohammed reordered the arrangement of the Qur'an.

The second editing was done by a Tame Lamb according to Islamic sources.
1. The Lamb eat up the Qur'an with instructions from Allah for men to suckle on a woman's breast ten times.
2. The lamb eat up the Qur'an where stoning for Adultery was prescribed as law by Allah

The third editing was done by Uthman according to Islamic sources.

1. Seven dialects of Arabic was revealed to Mohammed, he reduced it into ONE
2. Every Qur'an in existence that he could lay his hands on was burned and destroyed so that only his own PREFERRED COPY survive

The fourth is even more grevious as we don't know who did it.

The Uthman Qur'an suddenly disappeared and was replaced by a Recitation by Hafs. Unfortunately, many Islamic scholars think Hafs is a liar (why they abandoned a printed copy sent to seven districts for a Recitation by just one person is still a mystery)


Let me stop here: as I wouldn't talk about translations yet!

gaskiyamagana:
HOW, ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, JESUS WAS CONCEIVED?

Maybe you first answer my own question

Is this holy Cunnilingus by Jibril?
If Mary didn't see an Angel (come to her) but a man, how did he (Jubril) blow into Mary's Vagina?


Tell me that this is Not from the Qur'an!?


Here is what the Bible said about the conception of Jesus.
Luk 1:35:
"And the angel answered and said to her, The Holy Ghost shall come on you, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow you: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of you shall be called the Son of God."

gaskiyamagana:
I too join you in thanking prophet google which is reservoir of detailed information about reviseable text book called Bible. I just googled:
MISSING VERSES FROM THE BIBLES
It was abundantly clear from prophet google that:
1. What God of one Bible said was removed by God of another Bible.
2. One God made mistake to have said so, therefore another God of other Bible remove it.
3. God in one Bible express Himself too long then God of another Bible reduced the sentence.
If not Biblical God, who is now author of CONFUSION?

Evidence where God of one Bible opposed the writing of another God of another Bible as:

God did NOT dictate nor write the Bible. The Bible is a library of religious books by several prophets and men sent by God!

AntiChristian:
1. The Prayer
Proverbs 5:18-19
18 May your fountain be blessed,
and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth.
19 A loving doe, a graceful deer—
may her boobs satisfy you always,
may you ever be intoxicated with her love.

(Say Amen)

2. My Beloved
Song of Songs 1:13-14
13 My beloved is to me a sachet of myrrh
resting between my boobs.
14 My beloved is to me a cluster of henna blossoms
from the vineyards of En Gedi.

3. Your B*
Song of Songs 4:5-6
5 Your boobs are like two fawns,
like twin fawns of a gazelle
that browse among the lilies.
6 Until the day breaks
and the shadows flee,
I will go to the mountain of myrrh
and to the hill of incense.

4. More description
Song of Songs 7:7-8
7 Your stature is like that of the palm,
and your boobs like clusters of fruit.
8 I said, “I will climb the palm tree;
I will take hold of its fruit.”
May your boobs be like clusters of grapes on the vine,
the fragrance of your breath like apples,

5. Kiss of life
Song of Songs 8:1
8 If only you were to me like a brother,
who was nursed at my mother’s boobs!
Then, if I found you outside,
I would kiss you,
and no one would despise me.

6. Little sister with no Boobs
Song of Songs 8:8-10
8 We have a little sister,
and her boobs are not yet grown.
What shall we do for our sister
on the day she is spoken for?
9 If she is a wall,
we will build towers of silver on her.
If she is a door,
we will enclose her with panels of cedar.

7. Boobs like towers
Song of Songs 8:10
10 I am a wall,
and my boobs are like towers.
Thus I have become in his eyes
like one bringing contentment.

Kindly ask them which of the verses above is their favorite?

The Songs of Solomon is a duet and Love Song.

The Book of Song of Solomon, also known as the Song of Songs or Canticles, is a poetic and allegorical book found in the Old Testament of the Bible.

The main message and purpose of the Song of Solomon revolve around love, desire, and the beauty of human relationships, particularly the romantic love between a bride and a bridegroom.

Overall, the book emphasizes the power and beauty of love and its ability to bring joy, fulfillment, and intimacy to human relationships. It highlights the importance of cherishing and nurturing love while recognizing the challenges and complexities that can arise within it.


It is Okay if you feel that it is vulgar and God shouldn't be interested in human romantic love.

However, since the Qur'an is without such, you will need to answer these questions of mine and check if it is vulgar enough or not

gaskiyamagana:
' ..... but l found him whom my soul love, l held him and would not let him go until I brought him to my mother's house......" Song of Solomon 2: 4.
What does this teaches a Christian girl?
In which mora sermon would a pastor read this and how will he explain it?
How could this be holy word of God?
If a Christian girl is caught with her boyfriend in her mother's room, it is sexlam effect on her?

The place you quoted is WRONG sir. Here is it

Song 3:1-5:
"By night on my bed I sought him whom my soul loves: I sought him, but I found him not. I will rise now, and go about the city in the streets, and in the broad ways I will seek him whom my soul loves: I sought him, but I found him not. The watchmen that go about the city found me: to whom I said, Saw you him whom my soul loves? It was but a little that I passed from them, but I found him whom my soul loves: I held him, and would not let him go, until I had brought him into my mother's house, and into the chamber of her that conceived me. I charge you, O you daughters of Jerusalem, by the roes, and by the hinds of the field, that you stir not up, nor awake my love, till he please."

Your depraved mind is why if you or your prophets eyes fall on a woman, the next thing is sex.

She woke up from her own room and decided that fornication is better performed not in her lovers room but in her mother's!?

No problem as the Depraved's imagination can run WILD!





Qur'an 19:18
Then We sent to her Our angel, ˹Gabriel,˺ appearing before her as a man, perfectly formed.

Quran 66:12
وَمَرْيَمَ ٱبْنَتَ عِمْرَٰنَ ٱلَّتِىٓ أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِنَا وَصَدَّقَتْ بِكَلِمَـٰتِ رَبِّهَا وَكُتُبِهِۦ وَكَانَتْ مِنَ ٱلْقَـٰنِتِينَ ١٢


What is the meaning of THIS : فَرْجَهَا
And What is THIS: فِيهِ

Is فَرْجَهَا the same as SLEEVE?
Quran 66:12
And Maryam (Mary) daughter of Imran, who kept safe her private parts (Vagina) so We breathed in it of Our Spirit, and she sincerely (believed) in the Words of her Lord, and His Books; and she was one of the devout.


It is good to know islam/

Is this holy Cunnilingus by Jibril?
If Mary didn't see an Angel (come to her) but a man, how did he (Jubril) blow into Mary's Vagina?


Tell me that this is Not from the Qur'an!?

honesttalk21:
Yes Semen.
You know a part of semen is produced at the prostate?

Is a baby created from semen?

honesttalk21:
How does the spermatozoa get to the ovum?

Where does the spermatozoa and ovum meat?

The place where this meeting and subsequent development of the Zygote to a baby is at which part of the body?

Is the fluid spermatozoa?
OR
Is the fluid the ovum?

honesttalk21:
Glad that we are almost on the same page of likely mixed constituents of fluids.
Crude oil has a mixture of comparatively volatile liquid hydrocarbons,nitrogen, sulfur, oxygen, etc. ORS is a mix of salt, sugar and water.

Now the ejaculate from the male consists of
secretions from male reproductive organs.
Sperm pass through the ejaculatory ducts and mix with fluids from the seminal vesicle, the prostate, and the bulbourethral glands to form semen.

The muscles of the prostate also ensure that the semen is forcefully [/b]pressed into the urethra and then expelled outwards during ejaculation. Its most important function is the production of a fluid that provides a medium with which sperm cells from the testicles and fluids from other glands, makes up semen.

Now Quran 86:5 stating let man (mankind), then, observe out of what he has been created:
What brings about conception? Fertilization of ovum/ova which consists of a combination of male and female gametes.

Where and how does this occur?
86:6 Created from ejection of seminal fluid. (A part of the process)

86:7 Then mankind (the baby) emerges from between the backbone and the ribs.

Where does the womb and developing baby up till delivery occupy?

Then another issue is of [b]taraibi.
Is it the ribs, breastbone or pubic arch of the woman?

You will note that you ALWAYS dodge answering my questions.

Is this fluid the SEMEN?

bobestman:
mumu

Thank you!
Your fruit is well evident: and you want me to learn from you!?

bobestman:
Ppl like you are many on NL. They think they know but know nothing. Anything beyond their religion and bible is thrash. They gather hear from morning to night teaching errors. All your religion copied from one and they all had their day untill corruption set in. Their are many things christians can learn from muslim and vice versa. Their are also many things you guys can learn from the traditionalists. Their are ancient books your bible was copied from. I answered your questions if you can read well yet you asked the same questions. I said it is your tactics and it shows you are foolish. You just want to argue. Never want to learn what is beyond you

You wanted me to learn from you: I am ready only that I want to be sure of your credentials.
Is that too much to ask?

My Questions:
1. Your TEACHER is Yourself!!? I don't understand!?
2. What is the name of your ancient one?
3. Which community adopts or teaches your doctrine?

Kobojunkie:
You pointed out absolutely nothing and I don't know what for since I more than made my self clear.

Work on your nature and character!
QED!

It doesn't represent Christ!

TheZeezle:
That's blasphemy we talking about Kaffir! If Dem catch u for street, Dem supposed sit ur foolish ass down on a hot stove. Idiot! Respect people's religion, is that too much to ask?

I am supporting you now!?

I know that a person may blaspheme God: but can a person Blaspheme another human being?

Thank you

honesttalk21:
In appropriate translations of the meaning Mr.

Have you seen crude oil emerging during exploration before? Is it a fluid?


Fluids are substances that flow easily because of increased intermolecular spaces and do not have fixed shape.

The fluid ORT consists of what?

Can you please APPROPRIATELY translate from Arabic
Qur'an 86:5-7
So let man consider from what he is created.
He is created from a gushing fluid
That issued from between the loins and ribs.

I'll be waiting for you!

What Is the name of the FLUID that forms a baby?


Note:
The oily fluid from within the earth is called CRUDE Oil!

The fluid in ORT given to children suffering diarrhoea is called oral rehydration solution" or "ORS"

Question :
1. What is the name of the gushing fluid issuing between the loins and the ribs that forms a baby?

2. Not withstanding, No baby is formed from Prostatic and seminal fluid as well as the follicular fluid. Otherwise explain how the fluids contribute their chromosomes to form the baby?

3. Is it UNTRUE that a baby is formed when a single spermatozoa fuses with an ovum?

fergie001:
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By their fruit you shall know them!

The Governor is correct: wherever these people are majority, you can easily be murdered for their Pseudo-Deity Mohammed
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Kobojunkie:
Na wa oo! Na by force to answer Christian abi wetin?

Again, I am not a Christian. Rather, I am a follower of Jesus Christ, one who lived according to God's Law and Truth in the Kingdom of God. Simple!

Have I called you a Christian?
I am just pointing out your misconceptions!

Conclusion :
In your real live, I can bet you'd be a difficult person to live with! Repent!

honesttalk21:
Do you then state that because something gushes and it's fluid it is not a mixture?

1. Did the Qur'an tell us it's a mixture of fluids?
2. Can you show me ANY a tafsir that says the fluid is a mixture?
3. Can you show me where and how the gushing fluid issuing between the loins and the ribs mixed before issuing out?
4. What is the name of the gushing fluid issuing between the loins and the ribs that forms a baby?

Answering ALL these questions will do justice to the verse!

Kobojunkie:
▪︎ You seem more like the desperate one offering up what amounts to useless information since I already made myself clear that I am not a follower of Peter and the term in question holds no real meaning to me.

▪︎ But you are not a follower of Jesus Christ who made if clear you cannot have two masters or teachers over you meaning you cannot be of the religion of men(lies) and of Jesus Christ at the same time. You can not embrace that which is antichrist and at the same time be said to be working for Jesus Christ. So, I am not certain what it is you are attempting to force happen here.

Says all you will: I have bursted your misconception about Christianity
AND

My advice to you is to be a True Disciple of Christ who is known for building and not destroying lives.

In your real live, I can bet you'd be a difficult person to live with!
Repent!

Kobojunkie:
What does it matter to this discourse is what am more concerned about.

Just see yourself behaving like a cornered Muslim.

Constantine founded Christianity yet Peter approx 200 years before Constantine was ever born was speaking to the Believers in Christ as Christians!?

Have a nice day with your warped doctrine.


For me: be less caustic to those who follow Jesus Christ.

Lk 9:49-50:
"Then John answered and said, “Master, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name, and we forbade him because he does not follow with us.”

.

Kobojunkie:
Is that so?

It was a question to you:

Was Peter was alive when Constantine was ruling?

Kobojunkie:
Lol... well, good for Him but I am not a follower of Peter but a follower of Jesus Christ and unless Jesus Christ formally referred to His followers by the term then this discussion is moot, isn't it?

Anyways, the term "Christians" was officially adopted by those of the religion of Christianity formed by Constantine some hundreds of years after Jesus Christ and as such does not define who I am since I am not of the religion of men but of the Kingdom and Law of God.

Peter was alive when Constantine was ruling! ?

Kobojunkie:
Lol... well, good for Him but I am not a follower of Peter but a follower of Jesus Christ and unless Jesus Christ formally referred to His followers by the term then this discussion is moot, isn't it?

Anyways, the term "Christians" was officially adopted by those of the religion of Christianity formed by Constantine some hundreds of years after Jesus Christ and as such does not define who I am since I am not of the religion of men but of the Kingdom and Law of God.

Peter was alive when Constantine was ruling!?

honesttalk21:
What makes the statement untrue, you?

What is your issue with the statement?

It is impossible for God to allow or Legalise PROSTITUTION for His people.

It is impossible for the Creator not to know that the sun doesn't set in any murky water.

It is impossible for God to give a command and it is not executed.

honesttalk21:
These are correctly related.
What is your problem with them?

Is it true that Allah can NEVER enter into his creation?

honesttalk21:
How do you know it is a singilar fluid? What's the difference between a singular and multiple fluids?

I know from the Qur'an

Qur'an 86:5-7
So let man consider from what he is created.
He is created from a gushing fluid
That issued from between the loins and ribs.

"a" is a qualifier for SINGULAR
"Fluid" is SINGULAR while
"Fluids" is PLURAL

Question :
1. What is the name of the gushing fluid issuing between the loins and the ribs that forms a baby?

2. Not withstanding, No baby is formed from Prostatic and seminal fluid as well as the follicular fluid. Otherwise explain how the fluids contribute their chromosomes to form the baby?

3. Is it UNTRUE that a baby is formed when a single spermatozoa fuses with an ovum?

MaxInDHouse:
Is this a question?
If so try to rephrase because i don't get you.

I apologise!

Only true Disciples of Jesus worthy of being called "Little Christ's" because the live according to the will of the Father in Heaven in Purity, Love to God and man and Service to God through building others in Christ are the ones who can wear the TITLE or LABEL of Christian!

Anyone who doesn't fit the above but claims to be a Christian is an impostor!

Mt 7:21:
"Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but the one who is doing the will of My Father, Who is in heaven."

MightySparrow:
Islam is a joke, my brother.

Thanks to the internet. The lies we now know should have been kept forever by the sheikhs and Saudi.

Thanks be to prophet Google: all the things they are hiding are brought out!

At least Prophet Google doesn't lie as much as prophet Muhammad

Kobojunkie:
And so because the disciples where labeled that by possibly Pagans in a town called Antioch, I should then go around wearing that same badge why?

Is it also written in that book that the disciples proudly adopted and even announced the term sanctioned by Jesus Christ or what?

Here Peter is speaking!

1Pet 4:16:
"Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf."


On what behalf should any man not be ashamed ?