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Zeus123:
Seun sani and his beer parlor analysis. Man is always choosing mouth.

Focus on the message and not the Messanger!

Sometimes out of the mouth of a mad man comes the truth

Bossly:
Cry more 😭
Ukraine remains ruined.

Western thugs can't do sh!t

Boohoo!
It pained you I said

Putin was Stupid and Greedy at the same time.

Now Sweden, Norway and Ukraine will all be part of NATO!

I can't wait for the Ukrainian Spring offensive

Bossly:
Werey, so you even know why Boss Vlad is pounding ukraine. You com dey mumu your self since.
Ukraine wont be hosting nuclear missiles that will threaten Russia.
They're ruined.

You don't want to admit the truth:
Putin has finally chased Ukraine into the waiting arms of both EU and NATO!

It was an invasion that backfired!

Bossly:
LIES.

You are pained about Ukraine's destruction because of western narrative.

You are not even pained about the brutal slavery your western lords meted on your forefathers. 🤡

Not long ago, una been dey sing "Ukraine is winning" because of the same western narrative (fake news).
Today una eyes don clear...🤣

I didn't know you are a Dibia with white chalk on your eyes to see!

A Comedian lead country had held Russia by the balls for trespassing onto their land. They hypersonic missiles shot down and now we know that the Chinese hypersonic missiles is much better than that of Russia's. T90 armoured tank has been disgraced by Javelins and co.

I pray that any strong neighbour that want to cheat you will be disgraced as Putin has been frustrated! Amen

StudyBarn:
They let you keep 80%, Ukraine is an artificial state . And Britain is not carpet combing Nigeria at least not yet. People from Artemovsk can testify.

Why is it difficult to answer
Is it true that Great Britain own Nigeria?
Who gave the name Nigeria to this country?
Who amalgamated the North and Southern Nigeria?

Is it true that Great Britain own Nigeria?

AudioMonkey:
I think the issue with you is, you're mixed up in book theories so much you don't easily understand simple reality concepts. I keep making my discussion as basic as possible. Even with that you're still finding it hard to get things.
There are physical objects and there are physical quantities or attributes of the objects.
You're a 3D object but you produce a quantity/attribute called heat. The heat is real but it's not an object, it's just a measurable attribute of you (the object). The globe has meridian, latitudes etc but these are not the real physical globe, rather they're merely attributes of the real object (globe) employed for scientific, mathematical, analytical purposes. Same applies to 2D shapes, lines, cross sections etc. They're not physical objects.
You're confused and mixing things up so bad. You know a lot of theories but maybe, not a lot real life understanding of these things.

Funny enough, I just had to google 2D objects and Google is saying exactly all I've been saying. It was like Google was reading my comments all along.
You can go to Quora, Reddit etc, I'm sure anyone with practical knowledge of reality will say exactly all I said here.
Seems you like arguing blindly even when you realize you're wrong or maybe you just don't understand some things.

Find out please
Is a Triangle or a Circle 2D object ?

Bossly:
I don't listen to fake, hypocritical, brainwashed folks.
Western narrative is full of sh!t. I've known this for many years. If that narrative is what you promote & sell, forget it! I can NEVER be your customer...

People who were mute when US destroyed Iraq, Afghanistan etc have no business lecturing us about Ukraine.

US is presently occupying oil rich parts of Syria & stealing their oil.
Y'all are acting ignorant... 🤡

Continue o, but just know that Ukraine remains destroyed & western hegemony is next.

I don't listen to western news. I listen to independent news on both sides of the divide.

Putin was Stupid and Greedy at the same time.

What was wrong in Putin bringing Ukraine into her sphere of influence in a friendly non aggressive manner.

But he wanted another man's land: which he took in 2014
Now he needed more but was met with disgrace.


What would you have adviced Ukraine to do?
If you were Zelensky, what would you have done?

Bossly:
1. Yes, the US was in Ukraine in 2014. That's why Yanukovich was toppled.

The name of the coup leader please!

Bossly:
2. Putin annexed Crimea to protect Russia's security interests.

So Putin invaded Ukraine because his friend was toppled from Government.
1. Why annex the land corridor to Crimea: was it because of Putin security interest?
2. Ukraine is not a Nuclear power and is at least 10 times smaller in every way to Russia, what was then the exact security risk to Russia?

Bossly:
3. Putin was far too patient after the coup in 2014. Many provocations were ignored till Russia couldn't take them anymore...

Ethnic Russians, the Russian language/culture etc were being obliterated by Kiev, while western leaders & fake news cheered their Kiev puppets...

1. Did Putin send weapons and armed men into Ukraine to distabilize Ukraine from 2014?
2. Is it right to invade another country for the purpose of annexing their territory?

Bossly:
Again, talking from now till next year will never restore Ukraine. That place remains ruined.
The main target of Russia & its allies is western hegemony. They will never give up until they end it completely...
Stay tuned!

Unfortunately the thousands of fatherless children on both sides can never be restored thanks to Putin
The shame of Russia and her military rating has fallen significantly.

Thanks to Putin, China is now world's number TWO in millitary strength.

A war veteran like Putin couldn't defeat a Comedian well over a year now! What a shame.

Greed and Dumbness lead Putin to this level of disgrace!

Sweden and Norway will soon have nuclear missiles pointing towards Moscow in case they misbehave

Bossly:
1. Yes, the US was in Ukraine in 2014. That's why Yanukovich was toppled.

The name of the coup leader please!

Bossly:
2. Putin annexed Crimea to protect Russia's security interests.

So Putin invaded Ukraine because his friend was toppled from Government.
1. Why annex the land corridor to Crimea: was it because of Putin security interest?
2. Ukraine is not a Nuclear power and is at least 10 times smaller in every way to Russia, what was then the exact security risk to Russia?

Bossly:
3. Putin was far too patient after the coup in 2014. Many provocations were ignored till Russia couldn't take them anymore...

Ethnic Russians, the Russian language/culture etc were being obliterated by Kiev, while western leaders & fake news cheered their Kiev puppets...

1. Did Putin send weapons and armed men into Ukraine to distabilize Ukraine from 2014?
2. Is it right to invade another country for the purpose of annexing their territory?

Bossly:
Again, talking from now till next year will never restore Ukraine. That place remains ruined.
The main target of Russia & its allies is western hegemony. They will never give up until they end it completely...
Stay tuned!

Unfortunately the thousands of fatherless children on both sides can never be restored thanks to Putin
The shame of Russia and her military rating has fallen significantly.

Thanks to Putin, China is now world's number TWO in millitary strength.

A war veteran like Putin couldn't defeat a Comedian well over a year now! What a shame.

Greed and Dumbness lead Putin to this level of disgrace!

Sweden and Norway will soon have nuclear missiles pointing towards Moscow in case they misbehave

Bossly:
Where were you when legit elected Yanukovich was ousted by US coup in Kiev?
That grave mistake took place in 2014. Ukraine is still paying the price till 2moro

People who were singing "Ukraine is winning" are suddenly crying that Ukraine is bleeding.
Fake news has fallen flat on its face...

Russia jejely left Cuba when US demanded that they should exit Cuba during the Cuban missile crisis.
US led Nato terrorists should have jejely left Ukraine. They felt Russia is too small to resist, they fvcked around & found out the hard way.

Ukraine remains destroyed.

You will notice that you couldn't answer my questions!

1. Was NATO in Ukraine in 2014 where was their headquarters?
2. What was Putin's objective for annexing Cremia?
3. Was Putin successful in his reaction in 2014?

Bossly:
The complete collapse of western hegemony remains the goal.

So, you will close your eyes to injustice done to a free nation!


You will note that you haven't been able to say in certain fact what Ukraine DID to offend you!

StudyBarn:
Hey Ukrainian troglodyte, how many % of Nigeria is the UK occupying. Putin is correcting the Nikita Khrushchev’s stupid mistake of giving Crimea to Ukraine SSR.

Russia occupies 20% of Ukraine by the way. More soon

Who gave the name Nigeria to this country?
Who amalgamated the North and Southern Nigeria?

Is it true that Great Britain own Nigeria?


I am going with your train of thought!

AudioMonkey:
If the essence of your thread is to dribble the whole conversation, then I don't have a business being here.
I saw your thread and I joined it to learn and I also assume you would be sincere in the conversation.

At bolded, that's trying to be manipulative. Non of my discussion portrayed such. That is why I gave you enough chance to give solid reasons to back up your view, if you can, then I'll agree, why not. To learn is what I'm here for.
Outside the theoretical drawings of lines and shapes on paper, I already asked you severally, give instances of real life objects or microscopic matter that exist as 1D or 2D but you couldn't. Whereas I went ahead to back up my view and made my explanation as vivid as possible.
I'm still here to learn, not to argue. Give real life instances of 1D/2D objects and how they formed 3D objects, if we know that, it would definitely help us to understand 4D objects.
Let's discuss not argue.

Your argument is extremely weak and will not lead us to anywhere.

Your arguments sound like these:
Example:
"The Meridians do not exist, they are just mere lines drawn on paper. Same with Longitude and Latitude!"
Can you show us any line on the globe?

The magnetic lines of force does not exist. They are just mere theoretical imaginary lines drawn round a magnetic source.
Can you show the thickness of the lines?

The fact that you can't see beyond the 3D is not your fault. Not everyone can think abstracticatlly! Therefore there is no point in continuing what will lead no where.

Just like the Meridians,and the magnetic fields, mathematical tools like the Cartesian coordinates have been used to represent 1D, 2D and 3D, to you they don't exist except 3D. They are just lines on paper:
What else do you expect?

Thanks anyways for your time.

Bossly:
My objective? Really?

Am I fighting there? Did I send any fighters there?

O boy I am stating the obvious. Sentiments cannot change this fact.
When you say Libya & Yemen are destroyed, will it be correct for me to call it your objective?🤔

Talk from now till 2moro, IT WILL CHANGE NOTHING!
The complete collapse of western hegemony remains the goal.

Meanwhile, unfortunate Ukraine remains destroyed.

The enemy of my friend is my enemy: I hear you!

AudioMonkey:
Exactly. Now you're very close to the truth but you're still mixed up between theory and reality.
You said you can't give instance of 4D because as lower dimensional object, it's hard to justify higher dimensional object, alright. But now you also agree a real physical example of lower dimension - 2D/1D is an impossibility.
If so, isn't all I've been saying justified?

Again I say, there's nothing like 1D/2D objects just as you were not able to give an example of one, nor is there any 4D object, everything in real life exist as 3D, xyz object, nothing else below or above this.
0D/1D/2D are just classifications of perception and not classification of real-life objects. While dots, lines, shapes, pixels are theoretical objects on paper for theoretical purposes, analysis and computation. In reality they don't exist outside display on paper or other medium.
A tiny line in reality is a full 3D object, ball point is full 3D object, a rectangular plane is a full 3D object with tangible area but infinitesimal height.
For any object to exist as an object in space, it must posses all three xyz space values.
In space it's just 3D, three x, y, z. Or can you mention anything else outside this? No.
All objects exists and ends as 3D space objects. Nothing short or more of this.
That is why 4D is not a space quantity, rather it's another entirely different dimension and that is likely time.
A 3D space object is just a slice of space-time and maybe space-time is also a slice of something higher and so is our perception which can only view 3D objects per a particular time.
Space-time 4D is not a problem of detection because we know it is time, rather it's a problem of perception - our inability to view an objects in different times at once, we can only view a slice of space-time per time.
Motion blur images are theoretical depiction of space-time, 3d objects and it's motion in different times captured as a single perception. More like capturing space-time.
In real life, there might be creatures or organisms that may be able to perceive in 4D.

1D/2D object doesn't exist, same as 4D object.
Space starts and ends in 3D.
4D is space-time and 3D is a slice of it.
space - time may be a slice of something else.
It may go on and on like that.

Okay sir!
I hear you!

Everything that cannot be physically seen does not exist!

Bossly:
Where were you when legit elected Yanukovich was ousted by US coup in Kiev?
That grave mistake took place in 2014. Ukraine is still paying the price till 2moro

People who were singing "Ukraine is winning" are suddenly crying that Ukraine is bleeding.
Fake news has fallen flat on its face...

Russia jejely left Cuba when US demanded that they should exit Cuba during the Cuban missile crisis.
US led Nato terrorists should have jejely left Ukraine. They felt Russia is too small to resist, they fvcked around & found out the hard way.

Ukraine remains destroyed.

Your objective, to see Ukraine Destroyed!
Why?
You cannot tell!


PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE


1. Please the address of the Ukrainian bioweapon laboratory
2. Can you state unequivocally that Russia do not have any kind of developed bioweapons on their territory
3. Are Ethnic Russians in Ukraine Russians or Ukrainians?

Are you aware that
1. Ethnic Yoruba exist in Benin Republic?
2. Are you aware that Ethnic Hausa exist in Niger Republic
Does Nigeria have any right to invade Benin Republic or Niger Republic in defence of the Hausa and Yoruba people in those countries?

Please, respond to each question carefully

LordReed:
Actually we have observed effects that preceed causes so it is not always true that causes preceed effects.

Who are the "WE" you talk about here?
AND
Can you please give the name of the scientist, the year and the laboratory where
retrocausality have been verified?

Retrocausality is still a theory and these idea remain highly controversial and are not yet widely accepted within the scientific community.

Smartguyboy:
They have been starving a whole country for life is it not better than annexed?

Are you defending Ukraine or you want Russia to cripple their economy?

How do you want Ukraine to survive economically after Russia has taken
1. All their seaports
2. Their iron and steel companie
3. The fertile land in the Donbas are where wheat is grown.




What if after this, Putin request to annex Kyiv and the whole of Ukraine to Russia,: what will your advice to Ukraine be?

Bossly:
Ukronazis gave their territory to the collapsing hegemons to threaten & undermine Russia.
The rogue hegemons built bioweapons labs around Ukraine with Russia as their key target.
The rogue hegemons backed Kiev in to their brutal destruction of ethnic Russians in Ukraine. The ethnic cleansing of Russians in Ukraine became a norm.

These are some of Ukraine's offence. A very costly offence that has destroyed them forever.

1. Please the address of the Ukrainian bioweapon laboratory
2. Can you state unequivocally that Russia do not have any kind of developed bioweapons on their territory
3. Are Ethnic Russians in Ukraine Russians or Ukrainians?

Are you aware that
1. Ethnic Yoruba exist in Benin Republic?
2. Are you aware that Ethnic Hausa exist in Niger Republic
Does Nigeria have any right to invade Benin Republic or Niger Republic in defence of the Hausa and Yoruba people in those countries?

Please, respond to each question carefully

AudioMonkey:
I don't have any reason to disagree with you, if your reasons are valid. We keep learning.
Since you already said, in our lower dimension we're limited to detect higher dimension if such exists, alright, that is why I'm not bothering you with that task of giving an instance of 4D object.
Rather the simple question I asked is that you give me a real life instance of lower dimensional 2D, 1D objects and how such objects are unable to detect that 3D exists.

The basic building block in our universe is an atom which is presumably spherical (a 3D), therefore seeking for a real physical example is an impossibility.

If you were in the 2D world, a similar question for disputing that the 3D world exist is: "can you show by example that you can put a pixel on top of another pixel?"

For us in the three-dimensioned space, this question cannot prove nor disprove anything

We get the full truth only by approximating and projecting available data and information beyond our limitations

Wilgrea7:
Also, @TenQ, this is a little off topic, so i decided to add it as just a side note.

You've mentioned that in our universe, we understand the law of cause and effect, and how something cannot come from nothing. And for that reason, the universe must have been caused.

While I'm not necessarily arguing in favor of something from nothing, i wanted to point something out

We've observed that by virtue of the nature of OUR universe, something can't come from nothing. Simply put, everything in our universe obeys the law of cause and effect. But what if that law only applies to universes? Let me explain

Our universe includes all of space and everything in it. But space itself isn't nothing. Space is a something. It can stretch and squeeze under gravity. It contains particles. Even empty space is not nothing.

What if outside "universes", what if in true nothing, no space, no time, no matter, no properties... What if in such a phenomenon, something could come into existence?

What if the only property of true nothingness, was to birth something?

Now i don't necessarily agree with this either, but i just thought it was an interesting thing to think about.

I agree with you:
This is why I've been saying that whatever birthed our Universe
1. Must be OUTSIDE our Universe
2. Must not be subject to the Physical Laws of Our Universe

Implication:
+The Question of this Course of the Universe having its own cause is a lame attempt to impose our physical laws of cause and effect on what we can't comprehend

+The Question of this Uncaused First-Cause of Everything being a SOMETHING or SOMEONE is for another Debate!

This is why I try to comprehend this logically using the progression of spatial dimensions.
In a 2D space, observers will conclude that it is impossible to bring a square shape into a closed shape without breaking the boundaries of the closed shape. And this is very true from their point of view.
BUT
This limitation is nonsensical to us in the 3D space as all we need to do is to bring Anything from our space and place it into their closed loop without ever needing to touch their loop boundary.

When we actually do this, it becomes a miracle to them. We have brought something into their existence instantaneously from NOTHING! The reverse is also possible: we can remove their imprisoned shape from inside their closed loop without touching it's boundary.
To them, it is teleportation (a miracle)

Good morning!
I will like to make a clarification before proceeding.
1. As a person, I believe that spiritual things should be explainable to some extent
2. All these discuss by me are just THEORIES and by no means a claim of reality
3. As such, they are NOT Doctrine but attempts to comprehend spiritual truths.

Wilgrea7:
My apologies for the late response.

Okay. So if I'm getting this correctly, you believe the "spiritual plane" is a somewhat higher dimension, like 4D for example, and we humans only experience a slice of this 4D, which is our 3d space?

Or do you believe that the spiritual plane is a somewhat 3d plane as well, which runs parallel to our physical plane and together with ours makes up a larger 4d plane. And we are somewhat 4d beings only able to experience a part of reality (3D) due to our alleged defective nature?

Yes, I think that the "spiritual plane" is a somewhat higher dimension, like 4D for example, and we humans only experience a slice of this 4D, which is our 3d space?

I also think that humans may even have hypothetically Dimensions like 3.2D or 3.01D or 3.6D because we are also spiritual beings (according to the bible) and our dispositions to spiritual matters is a function of how higher up than 3.0D we are.

Wilgrea7:
NDEs can be a really complex subject. One reason i tend to doubt them is the point which I mentioned earlier. And that the fact that NDEs are heavily skewed in favor of the information the recipent already knows.

Using the alien analogy, if an alien somehow got "transported" to earth for a few hours, and landed in the amazon for example. But claimed to see its dead family members from its home planet, telling them things only they would know, it calls the so called transportation experience into account don't you think?

I'm not sure what NDEs are, or why they happen the way they do. Could they hint at life after death? Possibly. But the data right now is far too little to draw any reasonable conclusion.

Also it makes you wonder about the nature of "death" in regards to the "higher dimensions" narrative.

I think evidence of NDE is compelling enough as a proof of Life existing after death just from this aspect of NDE alone.

Out of Body Experience:
It takes just one example of an OBE where the subject is able to see or describe physical events AFTER his death that is technically impossible. Eg. A revived patient describing exactly what transpired in his physical environment while he was dead.
Just one true example is enough: any objections to this is just an excercise in denial.

This kind of OBE proves either that
1. An Immaterial component of man exist or
2. Life continues after death.

Wilgrea7:
So I've been thinking about this, and I actually have quite a bit to say on this issue.

Firstly, you've talked about the idea that some things are just beyond us. Like the idea of the uncaused first cause.

My question is, if such a physics-defying idea can exist "outisde our dimension" assuming higher dimensions exist, why can't the idea of something coming from nothing exist in such higher dimensions as well?

These are 2 ideas which seem to defy our knowledge of the universe. And you seem to choose one over the other, for a reason that could be used to excuse the occurrence of both.

Also, I'm not necessarily in favor of either. I don't subscribe to the idea that something came from nothing. But i also don't subscribe to the idea of an unmoved mover. Because it all leads back to the same question. Which is why there is something at all, and why this something is the way it is.

For you, you've seem to push this question to higher dimensions, and label it a God. But it doesn't really answer the question.

At the end of the day, we're still stuck with an unexplainable something which is incredibly complex, and for which we don't understand the mechanism or reasons for it's existence.

Actually, the most plausible explanation is the Existence of an Uncaused First-Cause of Everything.
Why?
1. In our physical universe (eliminating randomness) every event must have a cause.
2. Our physical universe plus all the scientific laws has a beginning
3. In our physical universe, infinite regress of Cause and Effect is impossible
Implication:
Therefore, whatever Caused our Universe must not be subject to the Laws and Principles that apply in our space.

Your argument seems to be (correct me if I am Wrong): that whatever Caused our Universe must also have its own cause.

Unfortunately, this assumption has violated the implication that, whatever Caused our Universe cannot be subject to our Physical laws.

Therefore, the logical conclusion is that this Cause of our Universe cannot be necessarily caused else, we are subjecting it to laws that exist after our universe was created .

The Question of this Uncaused First-Cause of Everything being a SOMETHING or SOMEONE is for another Debate!

AudioMonkey:
Alright then. Can you give reasons why you make such claim/speculation?
You can also give real life instances (not hypothetical or theoretical instances).


Lol. Give examples of any real object existing as 2D or 1D object.
0D, 1D, 2D are just book imagination, that is where many people get things wrong.
In reality everything is a 3D object/matter made up of another 3D objects/matters.

I think I have stated my reasons and arguments over and over here. You do not have to agree.

If there exist no way as of today to physically verify the existence of a higher dimension,
1. What kind of real life instance do you want?
2. The fact that it is impossible to measure a quantity or object is not a proof such does not exist.

Is it UNTRUE that Anything that can be logically or scientifically conceptualised is a possibility whether it has ever been measured/detected or not ?
Do we have examples of logically or scientifically conceptualised things that was later scientifically verified?
Eg. In 1905, Einstein proposed his theory that Energy and Matter are equivalent and gave the famous equation E = mc^2.
This was demonstrated by Cockcroft and Walton in 1932.
Other examples
+Detection of gravitational waves (1916-2015)
+Confirmation of the top quark (1973-1995)
+Discovery of the Higgs boson (1964-2012):

What you have capacity to measure and reality are two different separate things.

Like I said, you DO NOT have to agree with my position.

Smartguyboy:
Then think about what the USA did to poor Cuba 🇨🇺

USA invaded Cuba and Annexed it!

Did USA challenged USSR directly and negotiated the return of the secretly stashed Soviet missiles in Cuba or annexed Cuba?

Smartguyboy:
By trying to bring the enemy to her neighbor doorstep 2008

Think reason for a second do you think USA will allow Russia to do anything with Mexico 🇲🇽?

This is naivity !
Do you know that one of the fundamental rights of any nation is Freedom of Association?


Let me test your maturity:
Before the war (2021), Russia and China signed a bilateral agreement of no limit and no forbidden zone with each other where militarily, technologically and economy, the two countries will relate with each other.

Does Ukraine have the right to invade Russia for forming an alliance of "no limit, no forbidden zones " with China?

Wave-particle duality is a fundamental concept in quantum mechanics that describes the dual nature of particles. It suggests that particles, including matter particles like electrons and protons, can exhibit characteristics of both waves and particles, depending on how they are observed or measured.

This wave-particle duality suggests that particles can possess both particle-like and wave-like characteristics simultaneously. It implies that particles have a wavelength associated with them, and their behavior is described by wave functions that determine the probability distribution of their properties, such as position or momentum.

The wave-particle duality of matter is a fundamental aspect of quantum mechanics and challenges our classical intuition about the nature of particles. It underscores the need for a probabilistic understanding of quantum systems and is a key principle in describing the behavior of matter and energy at the atomic and subatomic levels.

AudioMonkey:
Nice but I must say, you're already mixing other dimensions with the space-distance dimension in the scope of discussion.
Wave or energy is not a 3D space dimension. Anything not possessing xyz - length, breadth, height is outside the 3D space dimension.
Space is one dimension I.e. xyz 3D distance in space.
Time is another dimension.
Behavior of matter/particles e.g duality or transmission of waves and energy is another dimension. While behavior is dependent on other quantities like size, mass, state, pressure, temperature etc. Water in different states exhibit different behaviours.
When a particle is almost zero, infinitesimally small mass, then it's stability decreases and so can exhibit strange behaviors but that's not our discussion. When such particular acts like wave, then it's an energy or quantity and no longer a 3D space object but as long as it remains a matter/object/particle, then it must be a 3D object with xyz - distance/length in the space. Also, it doesn't exist as 0D/1D/2D or 4D. All these dimensional variations are rather from the observer or perception and not the object.

My argument was that there is no way we can discern higher dimensions because we are limited to ONLY three-dimensional space.

AudioMonkey:
In reality, a flat plane is also a 3D objects, except the height is too minute to see compared to the area. There's really no 0D/1D/2D objects in real world, every object is in 3D no matter how small. So everything is a 3D object observing another 3D object, except that each object has different perception.
When on earth, you think the earth is flat, but when in space, you can see the real 3D spherical form of the earth, not like the earth suddenly changed from 3D to 4D, rather your perception changed.

Infinite layers of objects in 2D space make up the 3D objects. Meaning that 2D objects are just subsets of the 3D space. It takes infinite layers of 1D layers of objects to form 2D objects. it takes an infinite layers of 2D objects to form a 3D object . Meaning that objects in 1D, 2D are mere subsets of the 3D space.

It's just like saying that a block of iron is made up of millions of "spherical" atoms.

Kingsnairaland:
should I show you prove that Ukraine wanted to join way back before Putin took cremia then USA Biden decided to put Ukraine in without Ukraine getting cremia then putin decided to take four more places which made Biden to see Ukraine can no longer join lol. The problem began.

Primary school argument.
Why did Ukraine want to join NATO and not team up with their Russian cousin?

You said Biden didn't allow Ukraine to join NATO, so what is Putin fighting for?

Do you think Putin want Ukraine to be a strong independent country or a weak dependent country?

Bossly:
They had it all, then Uncle Sam began to control them.

Now they've lost it all.

You've only been talking about uncle Sam. What is the offence of Ukraine?

What was the strategic goal of Putin for annexing Cremia in 2014 with respect to Ukraine?

StudyBarn:
They do not by right of CONQUEST, by the same right a few exiled Brits came to own the entire North American continent

So, using this same argument, Russia own Cremia by right of conquest from Ukraine!

Is this correct?

And Great Britain own Nigeria by right of conquest!

Is this also correct?

Topmaike007:
the story long since 2008 and you won't understand it better if you are fed with western news I no fit take your thing if you no provoke me that's it

What was Putin's excuse for annexing Cremia?

Was it because Ukraine wanted to join NATO?

Kingsnairaland:
any human being that decided to hurt your children don't actually deserve to exist

So long as Ukraine decided to be a part of nato they don't deserve to enjoy the things of life.

When Ukraine didn't plan to join NATO, Putin came and took Cremia away from them. Once beaten twice shy they say: shouldn't Ukraine seek for protection from Russia?

Or they should give the whole of Ukraine to Putin!?