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kkins25:
But, you already defined subsequent dimensions as the cumulation of prior dimensions, isn't it? So, why are you asking the questions above? Even so, your definitions of the Dimensions above are somewhat faulty..

I hear you!

I didn't define dimensions where you quoted! Did I!?

Maynmaynmayn:
A line and a circle are unable to detect anything.

Help them please

Maynmaynmayn:
It is not possible to have objects in a one-dimensional (1D) space within a two-dimensional (2D) space. A one-dimensional space represents a line or curve that can be described by a single coordinate. In contrast, a two-dimensional space consists of points that can be described by two coordinates, typically referred to as the x-axis and y-axis.

A line is an object in 1D space

A circle is an object in a 2D space

Maynmaynmayn:
it is not possible to have a one-dimensional space within a two-dimensional space. A one-dimensional space cannot exist within a two-dimensional space because the additional dimension would violate the nature of the one-dimensional space. In a two-dimensional space, there are two independent directions of movement (usually referred to as the x-axis and y-axis), which are orthogonal to each other. However, in a one-dimensional space, there is only one direction of movement, so it cannot be embedded within a two-dimensional space.

On the other hand, your second question is about having a two-dimensional space within a three-dimensional space. This is indeed possible. For example, consider a flat sheet of paper lying on a table. The paper represents a two-dimensional space within the three-dimensional space of the table. The two dimensions of the paper are typically represented by the x-axis and y-axis, while the third dimension (the z-axis) corresponds to the height or depth of the table.

An error of omission corrected

1. It is possible to have objects in a one-dimensional (1D) space within a two-dimensional (2D) space?
Is it possible to have objects in a two-dimensional (2D) space within a three-dimensional (3D) space?

For the sake of rational readers who will at least throw off the bias of Atheism away or at least put on their thinking cap, let me answer the questions these cowards have been dodging.

It is a two step Question;

PART ONE:
1. It is possible to have objects in a one-dimensional (1D) space within a two-dimensional (2D) space?
Is it possible to have objects in a two-dimensional (2D) space within a three-dimensional (3D) space?
Answer:
Of course it is very possible.
A circle object drawn on An infinitesimally thin flat paper is a 2D object in a 2D space. This 2D object is in a 3D space because we live in a three Dimensional world.

2. If the above is possible,
Is it possible for a hypothetical point object in a 1D space know detect by any means that he it is within a 2D or 3D or nD space?
Using the example of the Circle object in the 2D space, you will find out that even though it is in a three dimensional world, there is NO way it can detect it because every physical quantities can only act in 2 Dimensions in his space. The third Dimension and every physical quantities like force, direction, velocity , acceleration in this third Dimension is INVISIBLE to it.
Summary:
Whenever an object is in a space of lower dimension, it is impossible for it to experience ANYTHING in the extra dimension not common to its own existing Dimensions.

PART TWO:
1. Can we guarantee that the limit of spatial dimensions is 3. That is, can we guarantee that 4D, 5D or higher do not exist?
There is no guarantee that higher dimensions than 3D do not exist. Higher spatial dimensions is possible in mathematics and in physics

2. If our three-dimensional space is a subset of higher dimensions, is there anyway we can find out?
No!
Even the theoretical possibility of detecting higher dimensions where we expect the law of conservation of energy to be broken may not even help because we can only measure the total energy from the point of view of our 3D space and not the total energy from the point of view of the higher dimensions. On the average, the higher dimensions is invisible to the lower dimensions.

3. Must Objects in a dimension higher greater than three be Solid masses?
We can't tell because it may be that mass as we know it is only meaningful in the 3D space. Perception of the objects from higher Dimensions untonour 3D space will be projected as quantities normal to the 3D space like mass, volume, velocity etc, but the converse is impossible.

4. Does the law of physics and chemistry (the physical laws) operate also on Dimensions higher than 3?
Up till now, it seems all our physical laws originate from objects in the three-dimensional space.




Note:
1. It seems that objects in a lower dimension can either be INSIDE or OUTSIDE the higher dimensions.
2. It seems that it is also possible to have non-integer dimensions. Eg 2.1D, 3.6D
In mathematics, this exists as fractal dimensions.

These and more are the interesting philosophical question we all could have enjoyed except that childishness or is it immaturity will not allow some people to converse intellectually because they feel they should defend their demons

In Spite of this as a Christian, who sometimes want to be able to explain spiritual things through Logic, Philosophy, Mathematics and the Sciences
1. I believe that there is a possibility of a higher Dimension other than this 3D space
2. This possible higher dimension is what I like to call the spiritual realm/Dimension
3. Because we are at a lower dimension, we hardly perceive the spiritual dimensions but spiritual personalities can interact with us
4. When their interaction with us breaks or violates the physical or natural laws, we say a miracle has occurred.
5. I do not rule out the possibility of Dimensions like 3.1D, 3.4D, 3.6D as an explanation for why some people are more spiritually sensitive than others

It is good to know that this written above does NOT constitute DOCTRINE in any way or form. Doctrine is taken in what is clearly written in BLACK and WHITE in the Bible. In other words, this could be totally wrong. For now however, muse over it as a bridge in understanding between what is seen and what is not seen.


CASE CLOSED!

HellVictorinho6:
everywhere in what? How can everything have no container? Google says the universe has no outside but it cannot state where the content comes from. Spits on google.

Another dumb personality speaking like one high on Crystal methamphetamine.

Just check up what you just wrote whenever you become sober.

Same disease , same symptom! SMH!

Please get off my mention at least for this thread! You TRULY got no Shame!

The evil in these people is amazing!
They want to avoid to talk but throw jabs.
Once that see that your questions will expose them, they scram after their tantrums.

The questions were simple:
1. It is possible to have objects in a one-dimensional (1D) space within a two-dimensional (2D) space?
Is it possible to have objects in a two-dimensional (2D) space within a three-dimensional (3D) space?


2. If the above is possible,
Is it possible for a hypothetical point object in a 1D space know detect by any means that he it is within a 2D or 3D or nD space?

If the question 1 is impossible, can you explain why?



What could be difficult in this?

Yungmil:
Please guys am seriously in confusion right now on what to do, I work in a tomato company in Kano state.

My supervisor who is related to the owner of the stole my money about 70k.

Now my confusion is if I should report him or not because he is our supervisor and the company only listens to him and not the other workers.

Am scared if I go ahead and report him I might end up being affected. They all speak housa which I don't.

It is only both of us in the office, yet he denied it. I don't have any other job yet

Please should what should I do?

Except you have an ironclad EVIDENCE as it will boomerang against you if you don't. Please lick your wounds and keep away your valuables away from him.

Except you are willing to spend to trap him in another future episode of stealing

Maynmaynmayn:
hypothetical point object without consciousness in a one-dimensional space would not have the capacity to detect or know that it exists within higher-dimensional spaces such as 2D, 3D, or nD.


You don’t understand what you are saying, maybe if you leave beliefs you will.

I am not sure if you are feigning Dumb or you are actually it.

Even when I replace the word know with detect, you still have a problem!?
You are NOT remotely qualified to discuss on this issue as
It is obvious that you do NOT have an IOTA idea of this subject.

Please have a nice day: thanks anyways!
You do not need to respond as you have been deleted from this thread!

Maynmaynmayn:
Which i did.
How can a object without consciousness know?
There are so many flaws in your assertions.

Let me oblige you for the last time

Now that I have answered your QUESTIONS (did I miss any?), Please respond to mine.
1. It is possible to have a one-dimensional (1D) space within a two-dimensional (2D) space?
Is it possible to have a two-dimensional (2D) space within a three-dimensional (3D) space?


2. If the above is possible,
Is it possible for a hypothetical point object in a 1D space know detect by any means that he it is within a 2D or 3D or nD space?

If the question 1 is impossible, can you explain why?

Like a connered slime, I expect you to fain ignorance as usual!

Maynmaynmayn:
Inanimate/hypothetical objects do not have the ability to gather information, process data, or have intentional awareness. They lack the cognitive faculties required for knowledge acquisition and understanding. While objects can interact with their environment or respond to external stimuli in predetermined ways based on their physical properties or programming, this is not equivalent to knowledge or understanding.

You were supposed to respond to my questions: but it is obvious you won't.

So sorry to have disturbed you!
Have a nice day!

HellVictorinho6:
why did u mention the universe?

Universe mean EVERYWHERE?

We are constrained in a 3D universe my friend!
SMH!

Don't forget, your question was about

HellVictorinho6:
WHAT IS OUR 3D SPACE?

Maynmaynmayn:
why it is needed, and what will happen if there are no dimensions.?
What can exist without dimensions?

I don't know why you insist on changing the course of narration.

Let me oblige you so that we can move forward!

Definition Dimensions:
1. In mathematics and physics, a dimension refers to the number of independent directions or coordinates required to describe an object or space . It provides a quantitative measure of the extent or complexity of a system.

2. In the context of geometry, the term "dimension" often refers to spatial dimensions. For example, in two-dimensional (2D) space, two coordinates (such as length and width) are needed to specify the position of an object. In three-dimensional (3D) space, three coordinates (length, width, and height) are required. Higher-dimensional spaces, such as four-dimensional (4D) spacetime in physics, involve additional independent directions.

3. Dimensions can also be abstract and apply to other mathematical structures beyond physical space. For instance, a vector space may have a finite number of dimensions or even an infinite number of dimensions.

In general, the concept of dimension provides a framework for understanding the properties, relationships, and complexity of objects and spaces in various mathematical, geometric, and physical contexts.


What happens if there is no Dimensions?
Then objects and space will not exist except as an abstract theoretical objects as a point, dot or pixel in a graphical or space representation.

Now that I have answered your QUESTIONS (did I miss any?), Please respond to mine.
1. It is possible to have a one-dimensional (1D) space within a two-dimensional (2D) space?
Is it possible to have a two-dimensional (2D) space within a three-dimensional (3D) space?


2. If the above is possible,
Is it possible for a hypothetical point object in a 1D space know by any means that he is within a 2D or 3D or nD space?

If the question 1 is impossible, can you explain why?

HellVictorinho6:
it connects becuz u mention the universe.

You asked

HellVictorinho6:
WHAT IS OUR 3D SPACE?

My response:
This is the Spatial coordinates through which energy and forces can interact with matter in our universe!
In Cartesian coordinates, we speak of the x, y and z directions and these three constitute our allowed vector that projects our 3D space.
You then responded with

the universe can't exist. Google says an event requires space and time but the big bang does not. That is a contradiction.

How does a definition results into your contradiction?
Your two questions has nothing to do with existence of the Universe.

Maynmaynmayn:
Answer my own questions too, this is not an interview.

“Let’s start with the definition of dimensions, why it is needed, and what will happen if there are no dimensions.”

I am going with your definition!

Maynmaynmayn:
I already did severally and gave you examples.

zero dimension refers to a point, it is the most fundamental building block in higher-dimensional spaces. One dimension, on the other hand, introduces the notion of length or distance along a straight line.
zero dimension is a concept that forms the basis for constructing higher-dimensional spaces, including one-dimensional spaces or 100000- dimensional spaces.

“Dimension exists for objects.
First look up the definition of “dimensions” and why it is needed.

In a one-dimensional space, objects are represented as lines or curves along a single direction. This dimension is often used to describe objects that have length but no width or height. Examples of one-dimensional objects include a piece of string, a wire, or a straight road.

In a two-dimensional space, objects are represented on a plane, defined by two perpendicular axes (such as x and y). This dimension allows for the description of objects with length and width, but no height.
Examples of two-dimensional objects include squares, circles, triangles, or images on a screen.”

Thank you.

It is possible to have a one-dimensional (1D) space within a two-dimensional (2D) space?


Is it possible to have a two-dimensional (2D) space within a three-dimensional (3D) space?

Maynmaynmayn:
I already defined it severally and even gave you examples.

Afraid of defining the dimension or afraid of you. “Afraid” of what?
It seems like a “catchphrase” to you.

You haven't sir.

Lets have your description as I did mine in the first page!
0D, 1D, 2D and 3D

So simple: you can even do copy-paste as I will ask you questions on it

Maynmaynmayn:
How can you learn if you don’t understand the basic.
What do you understand by dimensions and why is it needed, from there we will know why more dimensions should be needed.

Lets have your own theory and definition of Zero Dimension, 1D, 2D and 3D

Are you afraid?

KnownUnknown:
Prolix nonsense is what we have here.

Now that you are more learned,
Lets have your own theory of Zero Dimension, 1D, 2D and 3D

Maynmaynmayn:
Let’s start with the definition of dimensions, why it is needed, and what will happen if there are no dimensions.

Sorry, I want to learn

Lets have your own theory and definition of Zero Dimension, 1D, 2D and 3D

HellVictorinho6:
the universe can't exist. Google says an event requires space and time but the big bang does not. That is a contradiction.

You asked a question, and I responded:

What is the connection between "the Universe can't exist": you may wish to link your question , my response and this your writeup together

The topic has nothing to do with the universe existing or not existing

KnownUnknown:
You’re not even intelligible enough to have a conversation with. You use the concept of set wrongly and you use the concept of infinity wrongly. You are not saying anything comprehensible yet you keep on going. This isn’t a religious gathering where people get away with such chicanery.

We live in a 3D world or 4D (if you consider time a dimension). If planes such as 5D or more exists, we obviously can’t access them and if someone were to access 5D, such person would be hard pressed to describe his/her experience.

Your problem is using this obvious knowledge and attempting to equate your god and spiritual mumbo jumbo as having existence in higher dimensions which you will call “spiritual”. So, a 3D being can’t comprehend a 5D world just like an atheist can’t comprehend “spiritual” things. That’s your whole shtick. However, leprechauns occupy all higher dimensions so your god is shit out of luck.

I am so fortunate today to meet intelligent people who cannot think in abstraction.

We live in a 3 D world and everything about us is in 3D:
Is it possible to abstract a 1 D space within our 3D space?
Is it possible to abstract a 2 D space within our 3D space?
It looks like you cant!

I have not even started talking higher dimensions to you: so dont bring the issue of spiritual things into it yet

In a 2 Dimensional Space , it it impossible to have infinite number of one dimensional objects?
In a 3 Dimensional Space , it it impossible to have infinite number of two dimensional objects?
It seems that your answer is no by the way you are talking.

A 0 D object is a mathematical abstraction or theoretical point with no physical dimension: it is represented as a point, a dot or a pixel in graphical or space representation.
It looks like your objective is to say "It doesn't exist in reality" and therefore its a wrong concept

Now that you are more learned,
Lets have your own theory of Zero Dimension, 1D, 2D and 3D

Maynmaynmayn:
You are the one that doesn’t know what zero dimension mean, otherwise you won’t say it is a subset.

The idea of higher dimensional spaces has been explored example is string theory, you are not saying anything new.

Understand the basics first!


zero dimension refers to a point, it is the most fundamental building block in higher-dimensional spaces. One dimension, on the other hand, introduces the notion of length or distance along a straight line.
zero dimension is a concept that forms the basis for constructing higher-dimensional spaces, including one-dimensional spaces or 100000- dimensional spaces.

I am not disputing about zero Dimension!


Lets have your own theory and definition of Zero Dimension, 1D, 2D and 3D

LordReed:
TenQ as you can see I am not the only one who can perceive that you don't know what you are talking about.

What can be done to those who choose to be lost!

I have asked you a simple question, but fear will not let you say anything

Lets have your own theory and definition of Zero Dimension, 1D, 2D and 3D



I am waiting!

Dyfynezz12:
Club girl on Friday

I didnt say so o!
LOL!

Maynmaynmayn:
It has everything to do with it.
Before talking about 1, let us talk about the most basic. Hope you know there is a difference between beginning and first.

zero dimension refers to a point, it is the most fundamental building block in higher-dimensional spaces. One dimension, on the other hand, introduces the notion of length or distance along a straight line.
zero dimension is a concept that forms the basis for constructing higher-dimensional spaces, including one-dimensional spaces and 100000- dimensional spaces.

You are the one having problems with Zero Dimension. For your sake, I have removed it from the discussion as it doesn't make or break my case!

Now, can we agree then that
1. 1 D space is a subset of a 2 D space which is a subset of of a 3D space

2. There are infinite number of 1 D space within a 2D space and an infinite number of 2D space within a 3D space

Churchgirl on Sunday

Maynmaynmayn:
You are the one that is having problems with it.
1D and 100D contains at 1 dimension and more, now how can you compare it with a thing that has no dimension? Which property are you using?

Other dimensions emerged from 0 dimension, the source.

Stop spamming with your Monad: this has nothing to do with it
I've reduced it to suit your ....

Now, can we agree then that
1. 1 D space is a subset of a 2 D space which is a subset of of a 3D space

2. There are infinite number of 1 D space within a 2D space and an infinite number of 2D space within a 3D space

KnownUnknown:
I already worked it out and found that leprechauns live in 5D.

Good for you!

Maynmaynmayn:
the zero-dimensional space is the simplest form of space and does not contain any additional dimensions beyond a single point. It represents a location or a position without any extent or direction. It is not a subset of the 1D space because the 1D space requires at least one dimension of length or extent to exist.

In the context of dimensional hierarchy, the 0D space can be considered as a building block or a foundational point, from which higher-dimensional spaces can be constructed.

LOL!

Even though extremely simple to comprehend, it seems you have a problem with 0D? Let me go your way

Now, can we agree then that
1. 1 D space is a subset of a 2 D space which is a subset of of a 3D space

2. There are infinite number of 1 D space within a 2D space and an infinite number of 2D space within a 3D space

Maynmaynmayn:
it's important to note that the paper's 2D nature restricts its extent and capability compared to the full 3D space. While the paper exists within the 3D space, it does not occupy or utilize the entire third dimension. It is confined to its two dimensions within the larger 3D context.

This is why it is right to say that
1. The 0 D space is a subset of the 1 D space
2. The 1 D space is a subset of the 2 D space
3. The 2 D space is a subset of the 3 D space

The word subset because for instance the 2 D space can be completely described from within the 3D space.


Now, can we agree then that
1. 0 D space is a subset of a 1 D space which is a subset of of a 2D space and the 2D space is a subset of the 3D space

2. There are infinite number of 0D space within a 1D space and an infinite number of 1D space within a 2D space and there exist an infinite 2D space within a 3D space!

Maynmaynmayn:
each dimension is not considered a subset of the previous one. Instead, each higher-dimensional space encompasses and contains the lower-dimensional spaces within it. So, a 0-dimensional point can exist in a 1-dimensional line, a 1-dimensional line can exist within a 2-dimensional plane, and a 2-dimensional plane can exist within a 3-dimensional space.

Let assume you have an infinitely thin paper typifying a 2D space within our 3D space, is the paper not a subset of our 3D space?

We can theoretically stack infinite layers of the 2D papers in our 3D space.

It is a subset because the 2 D space can be completely described from the 3D space.