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LordReed:
How are you paying your due by being tortured?

Just as you have tortured others!
Pay back time bro!

You're only reaping what you've sowed in the "dustbin" for the rejected

LegalWolf:
(underline mine)

A potential thief is talking about court of law 🙆‍♀️🙆‍♀️🙆‍♀️🙆‍♀️.



Heheheheh when did a future thief start presenting thesis….Lol! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

TenQ focus on your conning trade… this one won’t feed you 🤣

You never disappoint with your display of gross ignorance of Islam.

THE QUESTIONS:
1. If according to Islam, every prophet is in their graves PRAYING, how did Mohammed MEET them and converse with them in the seven heavens?
2. If Mohammed will be the FIRST to be Resurrected, was the narrative of the Journey to heaven REAL or FICTIONAL?
(Is the Buraq Real or Not and is Jubril real or not?)
3. Who built the Masjid al-Aqsa in Jerusalem?
In the time of Mohammed, there was no single Mosque in Jerusalem (In fact historically, Jerusalem was baren and desolate at this time as the Romans sacked and dispersed them). Secondly, the Romans had pulled down the Temple of Solomon to its foundation, so it didn't exist again.
4. Who witnessed the Isra Miraj apart from Mohammed? Who else can serve as a WITNESS to this Night Journey of Mohammed?

Kobojunkie:
1. There happens to exits many more behavioral cases out there confused by many a religious gullible nut as cases of possession though. That there are a few real cases out there -- going by the fact that even in scripture there were indicated very few cases of possessions -- is not enough of a reason to raise alarms whenever one encounters an obviously fake one.

2. Suddenly you are even suggesting that OP go for deliverance herself as if to suggest that demonic possessions are also infectious diseases. What is even more agitating is that you are directing OP to go lay her life right in the hands of some of the biggest cons of them all in the name of deliverance, all simply on imagined ideas.

You have started again.

Demonic infections are like diseases. But I didn't nor ever said she got infected through the man.

Satan is not omniscient, therefore he cannot know about her unless a personality reveal such information.

Of course, you can't understand!

LordReed:
So it is beyond your god's capacity to reform? LoLz.

After you have paid your due.

A man reaps what he has showed. Its the law of nature

NairaLTQ:
Afa Antichristian,
Over to you

And his fellow warriors

Cc:
Antichristian
Lukuluku69
LegalWolf
Satmaniac

LOL

NairaLTQ:
Don't mind them jare!

The OP gat them by the balls

LOL

Especially LegalWolf!
See as he quiet like a criminal in chains at the police station.

LOL!

shadeyinka:
LOL

See as all of these head slammers pretend they didnt read this.

Too many lies and fabrications of the Religion of piss.

No one knows the answer Abi?

They know they have no reasonable answers to it.

My aim is to force them to think a little!
Stay blessed

Kobojunkie:
Or simply a man who claims to have a demon for flair..

Go to your local asylum and there you will find so many who make similar claims yet ordinary medication wey doctor dey give them seems to completely calm their demons. How come?

There is difference between mental problems and demon sickness.

Mental sick person cannot see beyond the natural knowledge
Demon sick person may be able to see beyond the natural knowledge.

Acts 16:16:
"And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:"

Kobojunkie:
1. That one na story since you yourself no witness any of the rituals yourself, right?

2. So, this person violently threatened you, telling you your birthdate, your mother's, and your father's names?

3. Did you see this "entity" or did the fact that you were likely hyped on adrenaline due to the threat you felt contribute to your seeing things that aren't there about this particular fellow?

I have experienced individuals with some sort of clairvoyance to them, and even some violent ones as well, but I wouldn't go as far as to conclude demon-possession since we humans come in all shapes and sizes of crazy, to begin with.

It is demons working in the man. QED!

OgaMadam:
Dear Nairaland,

Please help with this situation.

I was minding my own business going somewhere in a cab one day. When out of the blue a demon possessed guy (the way he was confessing about engaging in rituals and killing people and all that made me believe there was something not right. He also said things that no man could have known).

The worst part about this situation is that he said my worst fears. So detailed to a point no man could have known. And he kept threatening me with these fears but he never touched me.

In fact, he was begging the driver of the cab to drop him off first. He even forced driver to make a u turn.

Anyone who can provide input I will say thanks.

Very possible!

The demon possessed man most likely interacted with your familiar spirit and just like that, your history was made plane.

I think you should go for deliverance just to be sure for your own peace. I hope you are born again!

Shalom

LordReed:
Why does the god need a place of punishment? You mean reform is entirely out of the god's capability?

Reform,!?
Mass Murderers
Genocidal rulers
Kidnappers
Serial Killers
Sadists

Let them first pay for the tears and pain the gave to others. When they have fully paid, then reform may be an option.

What if they never could pay off their debt?
Too bad

Mcbayo:
Shekau should be in position to answer that . I'm a christian

LOL!
The living one or the Martyred one.

The Martyred Shekau is already with his 72 virgins and wouldn't have your time o

iduzebaba:
Thank you lordm. What of cross ventilation. What do you think sir?

Normally you want air to cross flow from sitting room out through the other side (usually the dinning room). Except in a cold environment, the sitting room will be hot and stuffy

LordReed:
Nope. If a god exists there could be a 1001 types of afterlife, why would a god of such capabilities be limited to 1?

What I mean is, if the two conditions are true, then such a God must have a place of punishment for those who hurt others and derive their joy in the misery of others.

Page TWO:

REFERENCES and BACKGROUND




Even though this is related, the post of today starts with the Quranic verse.

Qur'an 3:144
Muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful.

In Summary:
1. Mohammed is a Messangers
2. Other Messangers before Mohammed had died (in context to the next sentence)
3. Therefore, IF after the death of Mohammed his followers left Islam it doesn't do Allah any harm BUT those who remain faithful in gratitude, Allah will reward.

The issue today is NOT to argue whether Jesus is an exception or not but another interesting observation in the hadith below


Sahih al-Bukhari 7427, 7428
Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "v[b]The people will fall unconscious[/b] on the Day of Resurrection, then suddenly I will see Moses holding one of the pillars of the Throne." Abu Huraira said: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "I will be the first person to be resurrected and will see Moses holding the Throne."

This is also supported by Saheeh al-Jaami' as-Sagheer: No. 2570 and 2373,


Summary:
On the day of Resurrection, Mohammed would be the FIRST to be Resurrected!



The Question is:
Before the day of Resurrection, where are ALL those who died on earth?

Mohammed, gave us the answer:

1. The Martyred:
“And say not of those who are martyred in the way of Allah, “they are dead”, nay, they are living, though you perceive it not” (Surah al-Baqarah, 154).
2. The Prophets
Anas ibn Malik narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “The Prophets are alive in their graves performing Salat” (Recorded by al-Bayhaqi in his Hayat al-Anbiya’ and Abu Ya’la in his Musnad).


Mohammed confirmed that he also will be in the grave
Aws ibn Aws narrates the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) as saying: “Send salutations in abundance on me on Friday, as your sending salutations are presented to me.” The Companions inquired: “How is it possible that you receive our salutations when your body will have been decayed?” The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Verily Allah has made forbidden on the earth that it eats the bodies of the Prophets” (Recorded by Abu Dawud, Nasa’i, Ibn Majah, Darami and others, and authenticated by many, such as Ibn al-Qayyim).

3. For Others (non prophets nor martyr) After some time in your grave, you are then visited by two angels, known as Munkar and Nakir. They are assigned to test the faith of those dead within their graves. When they arrive, they sit you up in your grave and ask you the following: “Who is your Lord? Who is your Prophet? And what is your faith?”. The result of your examination will determine if the grave will be comfortable or harsh for the person.

Summary:
All those who died on earth whether Martyr, Prophet or Anyone else are CONSCIOUS in their GRAVE

Finally:
Mohammed while ALIVE was taken by Jubril to Paradise and the seven Heavens in a night Journey . Isra Miraj is one of the most notable events in the religious history of Islam. I won't want to bore you with the ELABORATE IMAGINATIVE story .

1. Mohammed was taken by Jubril on one of the animals of heaven called
Buraq to “the farthest mosque” Masjid al-Aqsa, in Jerusalem. The Buraq is one of the animals of paradise and is described as “a white creature that is larger than a donkey but smaller than a mule, who would place its hoof (step) a distance equal to the range of his vision." (Sahih Al-Bukhari)
2. After this Mohammed was taken to the seven Heavens where he met (at different tares) the old prophets starting with Adam and then John the Baptist with Jesus and then Joseph, Aaron, Moses and Abraham (in the seventh heaven).
3. Then Mohammed was permitted to go above the seventh heaven . When he finally reached the highest level in the heavens, he was brought into the Divine Presence of the Almighty Allah s.w.t, alone at Sidratul Muntaha (a boundary beyond which none may pass). It is said to be the boundary that has never been passed by anyone except by Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. Here, Rasulullah s.a.w. was given the Divine Decree for the believers to establish 50 daily prayers......and later reduced to 5 after he had consulted several times with Moses




The Discussion Questions are in Page 1:

Thank you!

Page ONE:



When a Philosophy or a Religion is based on lies, it is easy to discover them through asking questions. Usually in the Court of Law, to unravel if a position is speaking the truth or not, several questions are asked in order to see if there's contradiction or illogicalities or lack of evidence in their presentations.

This post is based on my last interaction with my very own person on NL where he made an assertion that prophet Mohammed will intercede for Muslims (w.r.t. Entering Paradise)

https://www.nairaland.com/post/120978237

I asked him the question:
And you honestly think that this is not FABRICATED as usual?

USUALLY, I present my Thesis before asking Questions, however, not to be a bore to non Muslims I will push the Thesis to the second page.


THE QUESTIONS:
1. If according to Islam, every prophet is in their graves PRAYING, how did Mohammed MEET them and converse with them in the seven heavens?
2. If Mohammed will be the FIRST to be Resurrected, was the narrative of the Journey to heaven REAL or FICTIONAL?
(Is the Buraq Real or Not and is Jubril real or not?)
3. Who built the Masjid al-Aqsa in Jerusalem?
In the time of Mohammed, there was no single Mosque in Jerusalem (In fact historically, Jerusalem was baren and desolate at this time as the Romans sacked and dispersed them). Secondly, the Romans had pulled down the Temple of Solomon to its foundation, so it didn't exist again.
4. Who witnessed the Isra Miraj apart from Mohammed? Who else can serve as a WITNESS to this Night Journey of Mohammed?

References in the page 2 below:



LegalWolf Vanessa7 AntiChristian Empiree, Rash4ductluv, BabaHeekmat, Haekymbahd, motayoayinde, drlateef, Thatfairguy1, MrCodeSolo , Hisbah21, thatsleepboy1 , Lordmoh , OBALOLA55, x123xlolls , Lukuluku69 , mhmsadyq, Ibsaq , Herkeym001 , Sulasa07 , hakeemhakeem , abduljabbar4 ,olaalekan ,Friend22 , uthlaw , Exc2000 , AbuTwins ,Akhirastriver ,Akinbahm , Sino , KayB , youngdroly , jaggabban , ukeleh , Realismailakabir , Bami8064 Greatgr , Gaskiyamagana Compton11 , Alfarouq , MrCodeSolo Satmaniac saintHot, drlateef, Donkmore

AntiChristian:
Which point was not addressed? Do you even have any point?



Celsus, 2nd-century Greek philosopher and opponent of Early Christianity, mounts a wide criticism against Jesus as the founder of the Christian faith. He discounts or disparages Jesus' ancestry, conception, birth, childhood, ministry, death, resurrection, and continuing influence. According to Celsus, Jesus' ancestors came from a Jewish village. His mother was a poor country girl who earned her living by spinning cloth. He worked his miracles by sorcery and was a small, homely man. This Rabbi Jesus kept all Jewish customs, including sacrifice at the Temple in Jerusalem. He gathered only a few followers and taught them his worst habits, including begging for money. These disciples, amounting to "ten boatmen and a couple of tax collectors" were not respectable. The reports of his resurrection came from a hysterical female, and belief in the resurrection was the result of Jesus' sorcery and the crazed thinking of his followers, all for the purpose of impressing others and increasing the chance for others to become beggars.

According to Celsus, Jesus was the inspiration for skulking rebels who deserve persecution.

Celsus stated that Jesus was the bastard child of the Roman soldier Panthera or Pantera. These charges of illegitimacy are the earliest datable statement of the Jewish charge that Jesus was conceived as the result of adultery (see Jesus in the Talmud) and that his true father was a Roman soldier named Panthera. Panthera was a common name among Roman soldiers of that period. The name has some similarity to the Greek adjective parthenos, meaning "virgin". The tomb of a Roman soldier named Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera, found in Bad Kreuznach, Germany, is taken by some scholars to refer to the Pantera named by Celsus.

According to Celsus, Jesus had no standing in the Hebrew Bible prophecies and talk of his resurrection was foolishness.



Paul said: Someone might argue, “If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?” Romans 3:7

According to Islam, is Celsius correct and is Celsus a worthy source of Islam

LordReed:
Good morning.

That's the point isn't it, we are all in trouble in some other religion's hell. You are in trouble in the Muslim hell just as they are in trouble in yours. I think y'all are silly but hey believe whatever you want just don't try to force it on me.

If God does exist And death isn't annihilation, a place called hell must exist.

Don't you think so?

FuglyGurl:
https://dailytrust.com/naira-redesign-buhari-out-to-truncate-democracy-ganduje/

Some of us knew that a long time ago.

A deal between friendly enemies: to complete the term for their tribe.
The structure must be made to collapse from the inside, so that the other structure on the outside can take over.

SmartPolician:
Politicians have mopped up most of the cash for vote-buying. By Saturday, politicians will release billions of naira to buy votes across the country and the #200 that will be released will help too. Nigerians just need to be patient because destroying things will change nothing. You speak of inflation.

This is the narrative they are peddling. Almost all the big time politician have big bankers on their payroll. Do you think such monies would be kept as cash in NAIRA when our BDC are not dead?

SmartPolician:
How can the price of commodities be increasing when people aren't really buying them due to cash scarcity? Keke riders, market women and bus drivers are not helping us because they always insist on cash payments.

A seller cannot sell BELOW his purchase price. Secondly, the more effort a trader makes to source his produce, the higher his markup price.
How much do you think will result in bank charges for every N50 transferred into your account. In light of this , as a keke rider, will you prefer cash or transfer?

AntiChristian:
Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam will intercede for Muslims!
Allaah has promised to him, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):
“It may be that your Lord will raise you to Maqaam Mahmood (a station of praise and glory, i.e., the honor of intercession on the Day of Resurrection)”[al-Isra’ 17:79]

It was narrated that Anas ibn Maalik said: Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us: “When the Day of Resurrection comes, the people will surge with each other like waves. They will come to Adam and say, ‘Intercede for us with your Lord.’ He will say, ‘I am not fit for that. Go to Ibraaheem for he is the Close Friend of the Most Merciful.’ So they will go to Ibraaheem, but he will say, ‘I am not fit for that. Go to Moosa for he is the one to whom Allaah spoke directly.’ So they will go to Moosa but he will say, ‘I am not fit for that. Go to ‘Eesa for he is a soul created by Allaah and His Word.’ So they will go to ‘Eesa but he will say, ‘I am not fit for that. Go to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).’ So they will come to me and I will say, I am fit for that.’ Then I will ask my Lord for permission and He will give me permission, and He will inspire me with words of praise with which I will praise Him, words that I do not know now. So I will praise Him with those words of praise and I will fall down prostrate before Him. He will say, ‘O Muhammad, raise your head. Speak and intercession will be granted to you, ask and you will be given, intercede and your intercession will be accepted.’ I will say, ‘O Lord, my ummah, my ummah!’ He will say, ‘Go and bring forth everyone in whose heart there is faith the weight of a barley-grain.’ So I will go and do that. Then I will come back and praise Him with those words of praise and I will fall down prostrate before Him. He will say, ‘O Muhammad, raise your head. Speak and intercession will be granted to you, ask and you will be given, intercede and your intercession will be accepted.’ I will say, ‘O Lord, my ummah, my ummah!’ He will say, ‘Go and bring forth everyone in whose heart there is faith the weight of a small ant or a mustard-seed.’ So I will go and do that. Then I will come back and praise Him with those words of praise and I will fall down prostrate before Him. He will say, ‘O Muhammad, raise your head. Speak and intercession will be granted to you, ask and you will be given, intercede and your intercession will be accepted.’ I will say, ‘O Lord, my ummah, my ummah!’ He will say, ‘Go and bring forth from the Fire everyone in whose heart there is faith the weight of the lightest, lightest grain of mustard-seed.’ So I will go and bring them forth.” .....
(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 7510)

And you honestly think that this is not FABRICATED as usual?

Where is the part of the Blackstone intercession?

43Ronin:
I think the haddit is a collection of higness or drug induced fairy tales by mohammed & endorsed by imaginary Allah. Is not this sane haddith that talks about 72 virgins & mohammed sucking young boys dick? Off all the religions, Islam seems to be the one with the most brain-dead congregants

Muslims hope that even if Mohammed is wrong, they would be vindicated by Allah for being pious and worshiping him alone.

Unfortunately, it is a case of a 419 taking off the inheritance of a hopeful fool.

SmartPolician:
It's such a shame that people in rural communities who don't have access to banks and internet are complaining about Naira scarcity and people who live in Lagos are even protesting.

Well, I maintain that our biggest challenge is obsession with cash and it's contributing to these protests. I just hope they don't turn around and blame it on the Igbos after destroying things.

The problem is the inflation caused poverty resulting in loss of value of the Naira. Most Nigerians spend "as needed" for small things which is senseless with the additional bank charges, SMS charges and transaction charges.

The cash in circulation is TOO little: CBN said that they didn't have enough paper

AntiChristian:
So God is one in charge of killings, deaths, genocides, incests, murders, etc in the old testament. So what else are you saying?

When a person dies, doesn't his soul/spirit return to God who gave the spirit to him?
In that case, what is the offence of God for recalling a person from the earth?

AntiChristian:
Fools base their thoughts on foolish assumptions, so their conclusions will be wicked madness;
Ecclesiastes 10:13

Once again, the Hadith is Da'if!

As Christians, we are enjoined to ASK Question and TEST if what we've heard is true or not.

Hence, I ask you simple questions which betray a faulty storyline of Mohammed!

AntiChristian:
The thread is about Moses!

I think i have answered your folly well enough!

It is also about HISTORICAL Accuracy of what Islam teaches, hence the question about Alexander the Great!

You have tried though and I wouldn't bother you with any more questions about MOSES and his unclothedness on this thread.

Have a beautiful day sir!

LordReed:
Well maybe Allah will give us to the faithful Muslimah to service them and our own members will be never endingly erect. You know that's practically hell right, ask anyone who has had to visit a doctor for a 4hr long erection. LMFAO!

Unfortunately, I have no ready Islamic document to that effect. As a man, you are in trouble o. However, You may need to ask my friends especially LegalWolf what happens to the Muslims

Good morning!

LegalWolf:
Hehehehe future thief too talking about cherry-picking 🙆‍♀️🙆‍♀️

Again: So our clerics preaching with it is in itself a proof of its authentic, ehn future thief? 🤪🤪🤪

Is it true that Lawyers using the Constitution for judgement is a proof that it is extant?

LegalWolf:
Oh sure!

I wish you had presented your evidence. But aren't you a fraud? Editing someone else's post!? Your character is sealed, like I said, you'll soon graduate.

The question was:
Is it true that the one arranging girls for you from the girls of hell fire is Allah?

LegalWolf:
I know a potential thief who may be failure in the sense that he’ll quickly meet his Waterloo and probably be hanged. Do you care to know who that failure of a potential thief is ? 😜😜😜🤷‍♂️

LegalWolf, What is the sense in an extremely shy Moses flogging a stone while completely naked before several people?

A failure is known by how intelligent his response to questions are!

Don't you think so?



There is no need to respond, you've already well and above achieved my objective. Till another time when I will certainly call you.

LegalWolf:
I know a potential thief who may be failure in the sense that he’ll quickly meet his Waterloo and probably be hanged. Do you care to know who that failure of a potential thief is ? 😜😜😜🤷‍♂️

What is the sense in an extremely shy Moses flogging a stone while completely naked before several people?

A failure is known by how intelligent his response to questions are!

Don't you think so?

LegalWolf:
Hahahaha potential thief has too is talking about faith... LOL! future thief! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

The question disturbed you?

Is it true that the one arranging girls for you from the girls of hell fire is Allah?

LegalWolf:
Hehehehe future thief too talking about cherry-picking 🙆‍♀️🙆‍♀️

Again: So our clerics preaching with it is in itself a proof of its authentic, ehn future thief? 🤪🤪🤪

Pardon me bro!

I forgot it's all about Taqqiya. One rule for the goose and another for the gander.

If it isn't, why use it at all. Your habits of cherry picking is leading you only downstairs

AntiChristian:
Na your God they share virgins!
Nothing to read!

Na your God do am whether Good or Bad in our sight!
I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things. Isaiah 45:7

Isaiah 45:7 is correct!

However, we see Allah as a love-vendor sharing out 70 whores of the people of hell fire to you Muslims. How does this make you feel?

What is the hope of HopefulLandlord and LordReed? They don't have boobs and Farjah as they are both males.

AntiChristian:
No! They agreed bastards/Criminals were crucified!

Off point.

What should he have done? Is it not the same stick he used to defeat the sorcerers and split the sea?


He was living in a suite. He should have had a Jacuzzi too!

Actually i only see your foolishness in this thread!

Is it true that the Jews in your Qur'an claimed to kill the Messiah son of Mary?

Is it historically accurate that Dhu-Qarnayn saw the sun setting in the murky waters and found a people living there?

So, are you saying that Musa felt that the stone was a messenger of satan that deserved a beating with his magic stick?


What was Moses purpose of beating the stone?