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Muslims like LegalWolf would rather change the subject of discuss than address the key issue Allah in the Quran QUOTING the Jews, said that that the Jews boasted that they killed their Messiah who is Jesus, the son of Mary and the Messenger of Allah Quran 4:157 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allāh." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Muslims do not understand the gravity of this in the Quran simply because they do NOT know who the MESSIAH is to be. If this is not true, I challenge every Muslim to explain by Islamic literatures the Concept of the Messiah. Crash Course Summary on the Belief of Jews about the Messiah: 1. The Messiah literally means "the Anointed ONE" 2. There can only be ONE Messiah throughout history 3. The Messiah is a Direct Descendant of king David 4. The Messiah is the ONE to Enforce PEACE and Everlasting Kingdom of God on the whole Earth with Jerusalem as the Capital 5. The Messiah is the physical representative of the presence of God on Earth (Emmanuel) Summary: The Messiah is the ONE promised by God to Save and Deliver Israel PERMANENTLY from ALL their enemies i. It would have been no issue if the Jews boasted that they Killed Jesus, son of Mary as its just one man in a million ii. It may be accepted if they killed the Messenger of Allah because his message to them is too harsh to them iii. It would be understandable if Jesus was killed because the Jews didn't know that he was the Messiah QUESTION: Holding the Quran to be exact literal words of Allah without errors, 1. Why would the Jews BOAST that they killed their only Messiah and what were they going to gain by killing their Messiah 2. According to Islam, who is "the Messiah"? Let's hope there'll be some interesting response Cc: LegalWolf Vanessa7 AntiChristian Empiree, Rash4ductluv, BabaHeekmat, Haekymbahd, motayoayinde, drlateef, Thatfairguy1, MrCodeSolo , Hisbah21, thatsleepboy1 , Lordmoh , OBALOLA55, x123xlolls , Lukuluku69 , mhmsadyq, Ibsaq , Herkeym001 , Sulasa07 , hakeemhakeem , abduljabbar4 ,olaalekan ,Friend22 , uthlaw , Exc2000 , AbuTwins ,Akhirastriver ,Akinbahm , Sino , KayB , youngdroly , jaggabban , ukeleh , Realismailakabir , Bami8064 Greatgr , Gaskiyamagana Compton11 , Alfarouq , MrCodeSolo Satmaniac saintHot, drlateef, Donkmore |
Maynman:YHWH didn't claim anything of such to the Jews except you can quote me a verse. Why would the Jews say such a thing? Do the Jews know Jesus as the Messiah? Those are questions you should ask Muslims. Because 1. There is no reason why Jews will say the killed the Messiah 2. The Jews do not even recognize Jesus as Messiah. The Question then should go to Muslims 1. Is the claim of Allah in the Qur'an true of the sayings of the Jews? 2. Why would the Jews say such a thing? |
Maynman:Write your own original post if you will, my question remain 1. Is the claim of Allah true of the sayings of the Jews? 2. Why would the Jews say such a thing? |
Maynman:I am not referencing the Bible, I am Referencing the claim of Allah According to Allah, Is it true that the Jews SAID: "we killed the Messiah"? Quran 4:157 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allāh." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Is this then a TRUE statement from Allah? |
drlateef: drlateef:Good morning Your question is not the point, it is about the claim of Allah According to Allah, Is it true that the Jews SAID: "we killed the Messiah"? Quran 4:157 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allāh." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Is this then a TRUE statement from Allah? |
Maynman:According to Allah, Is it true that the Jews SAID: "we killed the Messiah"? |
Maynman:Is this then a TRUE statement from Allah? Quran 4:157 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allāh." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. |
Maynman:Is this then TRUE? Quran 4:157 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allāh." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. |
Good Morning, I'll not be too disappointed if you don't have good answers. This is the essence of this post,to make us reason and stop being like illiterate Carrier of Books. Aven said this: Allah in the Quran QUOTING the Jews, said that that the Jews boasted that they killed their Messiah who is Jesus, the son of Mary and the Messenger of Allah Quran 4:157 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allāh." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Muslims do not understand the gravity of this in the Quran simply because they do NOT know who the MESSIAH is to be. If this is not true, I challenge every Muslim to explain by Islamic literatures the Concept of the Messiah. Crash Course Summary on the Belief of Jews about the Messiah: 1. The Messiah literally means "the Anointed ONE" 2. There can only be ONE Messiah throughout history 3. The Messiah is a Direct Descendant of king David 4. The Messiah is the ONE to Enforce PEACE and Everlasting Kingdom of God on the whole Earth with Jerusalem as the Capital 5. The Messiah is the physical representative of the presence of God on Earth (Emmanuel) Summary: The Messiah is the ONE promised by God to Save and Deliver Israel PERMANENTLY from ALL their enemies i. It would have been no issue if the Jews boasted that they Killed Jesus, son of Mary as its just one man in a million ii. It may be accepted if they killed the Messenger of Allah because his message to them is too harsh to them iii. It would be understandable if Jesus was killed because the Jews didn't know that he was the Messiah QUESTION: Holding the Quran to be exact literal words of Allah without errors, 1. Why would the Jews BOAST that they killed their only Messiah and what were they going to gain by killing their Messiah 2. According to Islam, who is "the Messiah"? Let's hope there'll be some interesting response Cc: LegalWolf Vanessa7 AntiChristian Empiree, Rash4ductluv, BabaHeekmat, Haekymbahd, motayoayinde, drlateef, Thatfairguy1, MrCodeSolo , Hisbah21, thatsleepboy1 , Lordmoh , OBALOLA55, x123xlolls , Lukuluku69 , mhmsadyq, Ibsaq , Herkeym001 , Sulasa07 , hakeemhakeem , abduljabbar4 ,olaalekan ,Friend22 , uthlaw , Exc2000 , AbuTwins ,Akhirastriver ,Akinbahm , Sino , KayB , youngdroly , jaggabban , ukeleh , Realismailakabir , Bami8064 Greatgr , Gaskiyamagana Compton11 , Alfarouq , MrCodeSolo Satmaniac saintHot, drlateef, Donkmore |
Kobojunkie:He was willing to throw his prophet under the bus to score a virtual point! He forgot that he has made his prophet Mohammed the greatest LIAR and DECEIVER in the world if he is right otherwise he is a most pitiful STUPID DONKEY! |
LegalWolf:Your Arabian Jinn of LIES have possessed you again! Answer my Questions if you aren't a confirmed irredeemable DONKEY! |
LegalWolf:LegalWolf, I am both your Nemesis and the one who gives you any semblance of value or worth on Nairaland. Write your own post if you have the liver or gut or knowledge to do so! The topic you've dodged to say anything about is represented here for you WHILE expecting you to be your royal "donkeyness" as usual. BECAUSE DONKEYS DON'T READ, I POST AGAIN THE WHOLE THESIS AND QUESTIONS Allah in the Quran QUOTING the Jews, said that that the Jews boasted that they killed their Messiah who is Jesus, the son of Mary and the Messenger of Allah Quran 4:157 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allāh." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Muslims do not understand the gravity of this in the Quran simply because they do NOT know who the MESSIAH is to be. If this is not true, I challenge every Muslim to explain by Islamic literatures the Concept of the Messiah. Crash Course Summary on the Belief of Jews about the Messiah: 1. The Messiah literally means "the Anointed ONE" 2. There can only be ONE Messiah throughout history 3. The Messiah is a Direct Descendant of king David 4. The Messiah is the ONE to Enforce PEACE and Everlasting Kingdom of God on the whole Earth with Jerusalem as the Capital 5. The Messiah is the physical representative of the presence of God on Earth (Emmanuel) Summary: The Messiah is the ONE promised by God to Save and Deliver Israel PERMANENTLY from ALL their enemies i. It would have been no issue if the Jews boasted that they Killed Jesus, son of Mary as its just one man in a million ii. It may be accepted if they killed the Messenger of Allah because his message to them is too harsh to them iii. It would be understandable if Jesus was killed because the Jews didn't know that he was the Messiah QUESTION: Holding the Quran to be exact literal words of Allah without errors, 1. Why would the Jews BOAST that they killed their only Messiah and what were they going to gain by killing their Messiah 2. According to Islam, who is "the Messiah"? Let's hope there'll be some interesting response Cc: LegalWolf Vanessa7 AntiChristian Empiree, Rash4ductluv, BabaHeekmat, Haekymbahd, motayoayinde, drlateef, Thatfairguy1, MrCodeSolo , Hisbah21, thatsleepboy1 , Lordmoh , OBALOLA55, x123xlolls , Lukuluku69 , mhmsadyq, Ibsaq , Herkeym001 , Sulasa07 , hakeemhakeem , abduljabbar4 ,olaalekan ,Friend22 , uthlaw , Exc2000 , AbuTwins ,Akhirastriver ,Akinbahm , Sino , KayB , youngdroly , jaggabban , ukeleh , Realismailakabir , Bami8064 Greatgr , Gaskiyamagana Compton11 , Alfarouq , MrCodeSolo Satmaniac saintHot, drlateef, Donkmore |
LegalWolf:Unfortunately your donkey nature is without repentance! A donkey may carry all the books of the world on its back yet he would neither read nor even bother with what he is carrying. The Question was extremely easy QUESTION: Holding the Quran to be exact literal words of Allah without errors, 1. Why would the Jews BOAST that they killed their only Messiah and what were they going to gain by killing their Messiah 2. According to Islam, who is "the Messiah"? Donkeys don't know the answer but will speak anyways! |
LegalWolf:Coward! QUESTION: Holding the Quran to be exact literal words of Allah without errors, 1. Why would the Jews BOAST that they killed their only Messiah and what were they going to gain by killing their Messiah 2. According to Islam, who is "the Messiah"? Donkeys don't know the answer but will speak anyways! |
LegalWolf:A donkey never disappoints. Such will throw his prophet under the bus just to be heard speaking Quran 29:46 And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him." Quran 4:163 Indeed, We have sent revelation to you ˹O Prophet˺ as We sent revelation to Noah and the prophets after him. We also sent revelation to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants, ˹as well as˺ Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon. And to David We gave the Psalms. Unfortunately, so cowardly predictable to leave the substance of discussion for things entirely at tangent. |
The Post of today: Allah in the Quran QUOTING the Jews, said that that the Jews boasted that they killed their Messiah who is Jesus, the son of Mary and the Messenger of Allah Quran 4:157 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allāh." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Muslims do not understand the gravity of this in the Quran simply because they do NOT know who the MESSIAH is to be. If this is not true, I challenge every Muslim to explain by Islamic literatures the Concept of the Messiah. Crash Course Summary on the Belief of Jews about the Messiah: 1. The Messiah literally means "the Anointed ONE" 2. There can only be ONE Messiah throughout history 3. The Messiah is a Direct Descendant of king David 4. The Messiah is the ONE to Enforce PEACE and Everlasting Kingdom of God on the whole Earth with Jerusalem as the Capital 5. The Messiah is the physical representative of the presence of God on Earth (Emmanuel) Summary: The Messiah is the ONE promised by God to Save and Deliver Israel PERMANENTLY from ALL their enemies i. It would have been no issue if the Jews boasted that they Killed Jesus, son of Mary as its just one man in a million ii. It may be accepted if they killed the Messenger of Allah because his message to them is too harsh to them iii. It would be understandable if Jesus was killed because the Jews didn't know that he was the Messiah QUESTION: Holding the Quran to be exact literal words of Allah without errors, 1. Why would the Jews BOAST that they killed their only Messiah and what were they going to gain by killing their Messiah 2. According to Islam, who is "the Messiah"? Let's hope there'll be some interesting response Cc: LegalWolf Vanessa7 AntiChristian Empiree, Rash4ductluv, BabaHeekmat, Haekymbahd, motayoayinde, drlateef, Thatfairguy1, MrCodeSolo , Hisbah21, thatsleepboy1 , Lordmoh , OBALOLA55, x123xlolls , Lukuluku69 , mhmsadyq, Ibsaq , Herkeym001 , Sulasa07 , hakeemhakeem , abduljabbar4 ,olaalekan ,Friend22 , uthlaw , Exc2000 , AbuTwins ,Akhirastriver ,Akinbahm , Sino , KayB , youngdroly , jaggabban , ukeleh , Realismailakabir , Bami8064 Greatgr , Gaskiyamagana Compton11 , Alfarouq , MrCodeSolo Satmaniac saintHot, drlateef, Donkmore |
Maynman:You said you don't want to read the KJV of the book of Daniel and I referred you to it in the Tanakh! Are you this dumb? |
Maynman:Guess you are so dumb TenQ:You didn't see this! SMH! |
Maynman:Can you see how you expose your warped arguments? Please go away! |
Maynman:I guess you've never read a Tanakh before else, you'll know. Thanks for your visit before you derail the thread. You are free to open your own thread. Thanks |
sonmvayina:So, you have no relevance to this thread. It is not by force to comment on what you don't know anything about. The Discussion Question is for TenQ: |
Maynman:Open your Tanakh to the book of Daniel and reference it Who was Daniel speaking of here ? Dan 9:25: "Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times." Dan 9:26: "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined." |
Maynman:I didn't ask you of the Christian version, I asked of of Daniel's |
Maynman:Who was Daniel speaking of here Dan 9:25: "Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times." Dan 9:26: "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined." |
sonmvayina:If it had not happened and the Messiah had not yet come, can you please defend Allah's truthful statement in the Qur'an that the Jews CLAIMED that they killed the Messiah Quran 4:157 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allāh." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. The Messiah literally means "the Anointed ONE" If the Qur'an is True AND The Messiah is the ONE promised by God to Save and Deliver Israel PERMANENTLY from ALL their enemies QUESTION: Holding the Quran to be exact literal words of Allah without errors, 1. Why would the Jews BOAST that they killed their only Messiah and what were they going to gain by killing their Messiah 2. According to Islam, who is "the Messiah"? |
sonmvayina:This means that the Messiah is not just any one anointed with oil. Didn't I mention that in my post that the Messiah was supposed to be the ONE to Enforce PEACE and Everlasting Kingdom of God on the whole Earth with Jerusalem as the Capital ? |
Maynman:Who then were the Jews EXPECTING when they can just literally POUR oil on the head of any Jewish man? |
Maynman:There are many presidents as there is the President of a country. I speak of "the Messiah" anointed by God Himself and not Man . This one John 1:41: "He first findeth his own brother Simon, and saith unto him, We have found the Messiah, which is, being interpreted, the Christ." John 4:25: "The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things." |
CodeTemplar:Who then are these Jewish urchins? |
Kalistus01:I have checked lets wait and see |
Kalistus01:Did he say anything about election 2023;in Nigeria? |
Allah in the Quran QUOTING the Jews, said that that the Jews boasted that they killed their Messiah who is Jesus, the son of Mary and the Messenger of Allah Quran 4:157 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allāh." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Muslims do not understand the gravity of this in the Quran simply because they do NOT know who the MESSIAH is to be. If this is not true, I challenge every Muslim to explain by Islamic literatures the Concept of the Messiah. Crash Course Summary on the Belief of Jews about the Messiah: 1. The Messiah literally means "the Anointed ONE" 2. There can only be ONE Messiah throughout history 3. The Messiah is a Direct Descendant of king David 4. The Messiah is the ONE to Enforce PEACE and Everlasting Kingdom of God on the whole Earth with Jerusalem as the Capital 5. The Messiah is the physical representative of the presence of God on Earth (Emmanuel) Summary: The Messiah is the ONE promised by God to Save and Deliver Israel PERMANENTLY from ALL their enemies i. It would have been no issue if the Jews boasted that they Killed Jesus, son of Mary as its just one man in a million ii. It may be accepted if they killed the Messenger of Allah because his message to them is too harsh to them iii. It would be understandable if Jesus was killed because the Jews didn't know that he was the Messiah QUESTION: Holding the Quran to be exact literal words of Allah without errors, 1. Why would the Jews BOAST that they killed their only Messiah and what were they going to gain by killing their Messiah 2. According to Islam, who is "the Messiah"? Let's hope there'll be some interesting response Cc: LegalWolf Vanessa7 AntiChristian Empiree, Rash4ductluv, BabaHeekmat, Haekymbahd, motayoayinde, drlateef, Thatfairguy1, MrCodeSolo , Hisbah21, thatsleepboy1 , Lordmoh , OBALOLA55, x123xlolls , Lukuluku69 , mhmsadyq, Ibsaq , Herkeym001 , Sulasa07 , hakeemhakeem , abduljabbar4 ,olaalekan ,Friend22 , uthlaw , Exc2000 , AbuTwins ,Akhirastriver ,Akinbahm , Sino , KayB , youngdroly , jaggabban , ukeleh , Realismailakabir , Bami8064 Greatgr , Gaskiyamagana Compton11 , Alfarouq , MrCodeSolo Satmaniac saintHot, drlateef, Donkmore |
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