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NNTR:
Kk, you ducked giving Leviticus 20:13 a contextual meaningful stab. You even cringed away from each and every one of the questions posed at you, but never mind, its all cool, however, I am known to be a give brothers another chance, so therefore, I'll give you another opportunities to redeem your slightly damaged reputation, by now instead, ask you to give Romans 1:27-29 a contextual hermeneutic.

Please dont fall from my hand, anymore lower than you've already have fallen, as I am banking on you achieving this based on using objective facts and truths.

Please dont get this twisted, we are not discussing truancy here

Psalm 91:1-8
1He sits in the shelter of The Highest and is glorified in the shadow of God.
2He said to LORD JEHOVAH, "My trust, my refuge place, God upon whom I trust!"
3He is the one who shall deliver you from the snare of scandal and from worthless speech.
4In his feathers he shall deliver you and under his wings you shall have refuge;
His truth shall surround you as a supply of armor.
5You shall not be afraid of the dread of the night or of the arrow that flies by day,
6Or of the account that walks in darkness or of the spirit that devastates at noonday.
7Thousands will fall by your side and ten thousand by your right hand, and they shall not come near you.
8But with your eyes alone you shall see the reward of the wicked.

I've been told worse. Comes with the terrain bro. Good thing though, is, any man more right than his neighbours constitutes a majority of one, and guess what. One with God, is majority.

You got that right, you stance, viewpoint et cetera defo isnt Christ

Stealing hurt someone. Any restitution doesnt change that fact

Please dont make me keep reminding you. We are not discussing stealing here please.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

AntiChristian:
Expatiate and let's see the extent of your ignorance!



Soul=Spirit! I don't know how many times I want to stress this.

When God created Adam did He blow soul and spirit separately or together?

Adam was Earth and spirit/soul!

You should tell us if the spirit/soul created for Adam was already living!

AntiChristian:
I no dey answer blatant liars like this!
Your great grandfather!

NNTR:
In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act, and so I have a duty to speak the truth. Truth has no agenda, whereas many others do, so beware. The greatest weapon isn’t gun nor is it nuclear, it is information control. Truth must be told. Must separate facts from fiction. Separating facts from institutional lies and stopping fake news. The truth matters, so we speak the truth, and eternal truths such as this, are best understood when incarnated in posts.

If tbh, I am not disappointed. I am not disappointed at continually seeing the desperation of being aversed to executing 2 Timothy 2:15 to the letter

Petty legalism is encouraging you more to flee from executing 2 Timothy 2:15 to the letter

Anytime a bible narrative is read in isolation, just like with whats done with this Leviticus 20:13 here, then 9 times out of 10, it is deliberately read out of context. The pretext and pretence for doing this is largely due to ignorance, lazy and inept biblical hermeneutics

Kk, let me give you a chance to have a contextual meaningful stab at Leviticus 20:13

1. Men only were stated in Leviticus 20:13, (i.e. no mention of W2W), so what specifically is the abomination committed?
2. Contextually speaking why were 'man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman' at Leviticus 20:13, what was the purpose?

I hope you don't lie either, (i.e. Pinocchio) excuse the pun, for to lie (i.e. Pinocchio), that according to scripture, is an abomination. It disgusts me that my faith has this reputation of homophobic bigots. I wish the body of Christ would smell the coffee and wake up to the rhema that God accepts everyone who is kind and loving.

A sin is something that hurts yourself, hurts children, hurts others and/or even hurts others, but that’s not godly homosexuality

Nobody chooses their sexuality, read up on epigenetics

Matthew 22:40
All the Law of Moses and the Books of the Prophets are based on these two commandments

John 1:17
For the Law was given through Moses,
but grace [the unearned, undeserved favor of God] and truth came through Jesus Christ.

Romans 3:19-22
19Now we know that whatever the Law [of Moses] says,
it speaks to those who are under the Law,
so that [the excuses of] every mouth may be silenced [from protesting]
and that all the world may be held accountable to God [and subject to His judgment].
20For no person will be justified [freed of guilt and declared righteous] in His sight
by [trying to do] the works of the Law.
For through the Law we become conscious of sin
[and the recognition of sin directs us toward repentance, but provides no remedy for sin].
21But now the righteousness of God has been clearly revealed
[independently and completely] apart from the Law,
though it is [actually] confirmed by the Law and the [words and writings of the] Prophets.
22This righteousness of God comes through faith in Jesus Christ for all those [Jew or Gentile] who believe
[and trust in Him and acknowledge Him as God’s Son].
There is no distinction,

John 14:15
Jesus said to his disciples:
If you love me, you will do as I command.

1 John 4:16
We have come to know [by personal observation and experience],
and have believed [with deep, consistent faith] the love which God has for us. God is love,
and the one who abides in love, abides in God, and God abides continually in him.

1 John 4:8
The one who does not love has not become acquainted with God
[does not and never did know Him], for God is love. (i.e. and vice versa)
[He is the originator of love, and it is an enduring attribute of His nature.]

1 Corinthians 13:13
And now there remain:
faith [abiding trust in God and His promises],
hope [confident expectation of eternal salvation],
love [unselfish love for others growing out of God’s love for me],
these three [the choicest graces];
but the greatest of these is love.

Galatians 5:14
13For you, my brothers, were called to freedom;
only do not let your freedom become an opportunity for the sinful nature (worldliness, selfishness),
but through love serve and seek the best for one another.
14For the whole Law [concerning human relationships] is fulfilled in one precept,
“YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF
[that is, you shall have an unselfish concern for others and do things for their benefit].”

Romans 13:8
Owe nothing to anyone except to love and seek the best for one another;
for he who [unselfishly] loves his neighbor
has fulfilled the [essence of the] law [relating to one’s fellowman].

1 Peter 4:8
Above all, have fervent and unfailing love for one another,
because love covers a multitude of sins
[it overlooks unkindness and unselfishly seeks the best for others].

Fact is, the greatest and highest commandment centres and hinges on love. To love, earns one credit, as to love, is all that the Law demands.

1 Peter 4:8 and 1 Corinthians 13:1-13 et cetera are talking to humanity, and humanity, including you personally, need to get better acquainted with 1 Peter 4:8 and 1 Corinthians 13:1-13 et cetera

The clinger really, in all of this, is at 1 Corinthians 13:13, because, without love, the word of God is not complete.

So, no, brother, you woefully guessed wrong, because the agape kind of love has nothing remotely in common with LIKE watching a hungry man eat a deliciously made fried-rice, salad, roast-beef and chicken only laced with a tiny amount of poison.

Consenting adults hungry to profess a lifelong romantic love for one another should have the rights to this and without fear of losing life or limb

What specifically is the exact evil here that merits punishing please?

I, personally, as a heterosexual man, don’t lust after women, I am simply attracted to them, being. Equally, not all homosexuals lust after other homosexual. They simply dont all lust after each other. Lust finds no room space to slip into, where mutual love exists.

Besides, lust, regardless of whom you lust over is a sin, whether in a heterosexual context or not in a heterosexual context

I am sure you wont be that ignorant to say homosexuality was the reason behind why Sodom and Gomorrah was pencilled in by God to be destroyed

No one gives a toss to how far you are concerned, not when especially you are
trying to force in your emotion, which clearly is drawn up from unstudied self opinions

Former president Jimmy Carter, many moons ago said that he feels same-sex marriage does not conflict with the gospel faith. He said and I quote him below:

“I believe Jesus would approve of gay marriage, but that’s just my own personal belief,” he said in an interview with Huff Post Live.

“I think Jesus would encourage any love affair if it was honest and sincere and was not damaging to anyone else, and I don’t see that gay marriage damages anyone else.” he further said in a same interview with Huff Post Live.

Carter, 90 then, continued that his support of same-sex marriage stopped short only at churches being forced to perform marriages to which they objected.

“I wouldn’t be in favor of the government being able to force a local church congregation to perform gay marriages if they didn’t want to,” he said.

“But those partners should be able to go to the local courthouse or to their church and get married.” he added.

I would add that, committed same sex relationships are hardly unbiblical.

If this is how you want to play it, then, it is the heterosexual who are sick and who should go to Jesus Christ for healing, because they are the ones who keep giving birth to homosexual babies

To my sincere yet sincerely wrong brother, if each and everyone of these Pedophilia, Necrophilia and Bestiality lot can never give legal consent, why then would you condone cruelty and extreme sexual abuse perpetrated against children (i.e. Pedophilia), dead bodies (i.e. Necrophilia) and animals (i.e. Bestiality)

Nobody chooses their sexuality, but one can choose whether to be a vile ignorant hateful immoral bigot

What name is this so-called 'same sickness' called please, because there sure is a sickness, a disorder called homophobia. It is sometimes curable, but only if one wants to cured.

Everybody needs to be loved and have somebody to romantically love back in return. There are so many worse things than death or the lake of fire. Not to be loved, not to be able to love and/or not being loved back in return: Wow, smh, they each and all are worse.

The gift of living consists in getting the greatest good (i.e. love) out of the greatest evil (i.e. sinful pride) While God loves, forgives and accepts. Satan accuses, kills, destroys, steals and condemns. Whose example are we following? Are we more like God or more like Satan?

Now brother, beloved, as I've came in love and peace, please, go 2 Timothy 2:15 study and show thy self approved.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

LegalWolf:
Beloved Hissplendor,

Somewhat somehow, I got the long hand of a ban from a (drunk) mod on this platform. What was my offense? I was told I breached one Rule 11 or so that has to do with capitalizing words etc. Anyways, I am back like I never left. But let me give you heads-up: I have a personal matter to attend at one GCC embassy in London very early tomorrow. So I will set out to that city very soon and give you a detailed response when I am back tomorrow. Or at worst, on Tuesday.

That said, I think you have drifted off the topic with your long explanation. The OP presented certain things that amounts to a 'dilemma' for Muslims. I therefore set out to explain what he considers a dilemma for Muslims from a logical standpoint is nothing of such for us. I am not here to convince you of the inexplicable, say for example, 3+3+3 = 3. You will agree with me that that is not what I am here to do and even that equation is mathematically inaccurate, wouldn't you?

And explanation must be grounded in logic. Not the ones one potential thief like TenQ makes which is is so outrageous in its defiance of logic that no sensible person whose head is properly attached to his neck will make. Neither do I Intend to give platforms to one advocatejare who apparently is an homo but impossible to be to sapiens.

Anyways, I will get back to you soon and do have a lovely day. Some Christians claim today is shabbath... I think you should rest too

hayoholla:
. You're the one confusing your self. Dont let semantics confuse you.

This is quora definition of a computer system. �


Simple answer 1: a computer is like an engine whereas a computer system is like a vehicle (a car or truck or boat) that contains one or more engines and does something more complex than what the engine does. But the engine is the essential component that enables the vehicle to do what it does.

Simple answer 2: a computer exists in a single place and does a primitive set of functions. A computer system combines a computer with many other things to perform a complex set of functions. It can also exist in a single place, but it may exist in many places at the same time.

More elaborate answer: A computer is a device that does certain things (mostly very basic data manipulation and mathematical functions), just as a building is a device that does certain things (such as housing offices or apartments). What makes a computer special is that it does these things very very quickly. A computer system is a mechanism that incorporates multiple computers along with other things like data storage devices, networks, and data paths (ways to move data around among storage devices and computers), as well as software (rules for how to do things), procedures and processes and protocols and on and on. A computer system performs a rather complex function, just as a city is a system that involves multiple buildings along with roads, sewage treatment plants, water and electrical systems and many other things that enable it to perform a function considerably more complex than the function performed by a building.

A major advance in the field of computing was the advent of networking. Before that, computers had to be near each other in order to communicate with each other and computer systems typically existed in a relatively small physical location where all the computers were in the same place. If you see a movie released in the period from roughly 1950 to 1980, you will note that computers and computer systems were typically depicted as gigantic things located in a large room. With networking, a computer system might have computers in one place, remote access devices in another place, and other computers in other places. Thus a building might have computers and terminals and printers and what have you all over it, all capable of communicating with each other. The internet, which enables world wide networks, has made it possible to have computer systems that consist of thousands of computers (or more), located all over the globe.

Whether I use a computer or a computer system, it doesn't matter. A Computer virus cannot exist without a computer or a computer system. Whichever you choose to do with.

LegalWolf:
Lol, you did not answer my question - for in him is completely different from he created something. Look at the biblical creation story in Genesis 1. Was the sky, water etc created through him or BY him? I’m concerned about BY not through Mr. Prosecution TenQ!

What about Holy Ghost fire!!!!! There’s no mention anywhere, or is there?

hayoholla:
This is my stance once again. A Computer system needs to exist for a computer virus to exist. Do you have any opposing argument. Please present them, then we can thrash it out

AntiChristian:
I no dey answer lies like you!
A Christian eru dey tell lie!
In the next minute now you'll speak in tongues o!

Your great grandfather died standing!
Your grandfather nko?

LegalWolf:
Lol. Hypothetically, if you and someone sends you and mr x to rob owners of a colt, do you know If you both are charged for the same offence on the same facts, I can decide to represent X and not you?

But that doesn’t answer my previous question, or does it?

AntiChristian:
Which verse specially defines body, soul and spirit as above?

AntiChristian:
I think we are done about Islam as regards this. Allah is not a spirit/soul! He created them.

AntiChristian:
Allah never lies but your lies is clear that your great grandfather never died while standing!

hayoholla:
. Incorrect bro. If there's no such thing as a computer "system", how will a computer virus exist . Try harder next time.

lereinter:
Are you a Christian? I'm asking because of your previous thread

hayoholla:
This is what you said down here�

When the manufacturer creates the laptop computer, does he load it with virus?
OR
Virus get into the computer because the USER connected an unverified software source accessing the computer?

And I replied you. I asked if there's no computer system, how will computer virus exist. So Where's the confusion in my reply.


You even replied again with this�

You even replied that Except your solution is that :
To ELIMINATE computer VIRUSES, it is sufficient to eliminate all COMPUTERS

So obviously you understood my reply.


And also you said,

I didn't speak of ANY computer system

When you initially started with this�

When the manufacturer creates the laptop computer, does he load it with virus?
OR
Virus get into the computer because the USER connected an unverified software source accessing the computer?

Or is it my use of "computer sytem" that's confusing you?

LegalWolf:
LOL!

I am on a train a cannot write extensively. But just very curious, who is querying the almighty Allah for it?


(underlined mine)

LegalWolf:
LOL, I love catching you by the balls.



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Christians with dubious statistics... Hahahaha that was how one of them said '80%' of the time when people don't answer questions, they don't know it. Lol, is the 85% from National Bureau of Statistics or World Bank report?

I am quite certain I have read it somewhere that you said this. Wait, is father/dad - understood in the context of biological parent - a title? Lecture me please! And what is a title?


That is your business on how I am being sinister or how you use the term god. I want to be a Biblical God like the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Simple. Do you want me to repeat the four questions again?

LegalWolf:
Now I am asking you FOUR SIMPLE questions on how I can take the title of God Biblically! How difficult can that be? Since it is a title like Chairman, Director, Professor (not erroneously like father) etc.. it is something that can be assumed IF YOU QUALIFY for it. So I am asking for the qualification of the Biblical Title God? I want advocatejare to add me to the trinitarian formula. If Father + Son + Holy Spirit = 1 , why is the addition of legalwolf a problem?

LegalWolf:
Fvcking open your bible to tell me the answer and stop running around the bush like a naked animal!
Do you want me to repeat the question again?

Waru TenQ (you've made me speak fulfude but no problem), I asked you to cite the Bible. I want to see Biblical evidence that Jesus created everything both unseen and seen before he took the title God. Same with Holy Spirit. Unambiguous biblical evidence!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Because if those two can take it, why not me? Advocatejare MUST worship me whether he likes it or not

LegalWolf:
What useless question did you answer? Where are your bible verses?

Kingsnairaland:
2008 Bucharest Summit

So that where the problem began

I love USA but I hate intimidation

They are at fault and they need to stay in there lane or be destroyed.

LegalWolf:
Hey TenQ

I have read your comments and response to many on this platform and I am of the firm view that the premise of your argument has been clearly explained to you before.

LegalWolf:
So I would not stress an inch explaining what you already know to be false. But I have one interesting question that troubles my soul (mind you - you HAVE NEVER ANSWERED ANY QUESTION THAT TROUBLED MY SOUL BEFORE). Maybe you will be of help.

LegalWolf:
I have read somewhere (I think in one of your comments here on this platform BUT certainly from several places) that God is like a title. And this raises interesting questions for me: Biblically

LegalWolf:
- who are those entitled to take the title (I mean the criteria that must be satisfied)?
- why is limited to these people alone?
- can I take the title?
- if yes, what can I do biblically to take the title of God?
- if no, why is the title of God foreclosed against me?

In similar religions to Christianity where there are pantheons of gods, at least the pathway is clear. For example, in hellenistic religion, I know the things to do to be deified and take the title God. Same thing with roman, habe and yoruba traditional religion. After all, julius ceaser was once human before being deified.

How sweet would it be for humonoids like advocatejare to worship me. In prayers, he will say something like God the Father, the Son and the LegalWolf. Interesting, isn't it ! (Actually, I do not mind coming after the holy ghost) So, in that case, we will be four Father + Son + Holy Ghost + LegalWolf = God

Like my fellow gods, I want to shabbath like it was done in Gen 2: 2- 3. Talk to you tomorrow or on Tuesday!

hayoholla:
. Incorrect bro. If there's no such thing as a computer "system", how will a computer virus exist . Try harder next time.

lereinter:
Are you a Christian? I'm asking because of your previous thread

b4ball:
10q so much for this apt and concise response. I was wondering how people did not realize that Christ died for the whole world. And it’s whoever and not just the Jews.

LegalWolf:
Oops, thank you for contacting me for my legal services. However, I apologize I cannot render those prestigious services of mine to you on account of what we call 'professional embarrassment'. The reason for that is because I personally know you as:
1. An habitual liar,
2. A potential thief, and an
3. Individual with probably cause to believe he is senile, or near-senile.

So on those grounds, I am of the view that it will be a professional embarassment to take on matter for a client whose morals I find detestable. But I have a solution: remember you have one rapist defending lawyer friend, don't you? I will recommend you use his services as it appears you guys may have a long history and I would not want to 'steal' his clients. You will agree with me that that is another ground for professional embarassment.




Alternatively, there are some ham-and-egger advocates such as one random and stray advocatejare. He will be much willing to oblige. And even on a personal and altruistic ground, wolves at the top of the food chain shouldn't be seen eating all the food. We should leave some crumbs for others like him, or don't you think so?

Bola146:
Who are we to judge? God is just unquestionable! Just do your good deeds and follow His instructions in the Bible not men's instructions, then ask for mercy

AntiChristian:
Where did Jesus explain all these in your Bible?

hayoholla:
No matter how y'all spin it. Imperfection has always and will always be part of creation. We only want to turn a blind eye to it .

Aemmyjah:
Pls accept my commendation as your illustration was really Epic. My eyes nearing stood up in ovation as I read them

advocatejare:
I’m interested in his answer

AntiChristian:
Allah never lies but your lies is clear that your great grandfather never died while standing!

Kwanza:
https://twitter.com/JaafarSJaafar/status/1604201302791258113?t=7i8gUcwrYhIm8B7bM0xFHg&s=19[/quote]Taqqiyya!

Why bother analysing if his chances are slim?

Kwanza:
https://twitter.com/JaafarSJaafar/status/1604201302791258113?t=7i8gUcwrYhIm8B7bM0xFHg&s=19[/quote]Taqqiyya!

jaggabban:
Pls visit YouTube, type is Jesus God by Dr Zakir Naik. Your question about Jesus is fully answered and many more you may ask.
I came in peace too.