₦airaland Forum

jikins:
You are too narrow minded in your views thats why its hard to take your points seriously. You don't think outside your bias.

If Cameroon takes Biafra and they vote to stay with Cameroon Isn't that the freedom that the west promotes? This is the same west who supported rebels all over the world against their government because they claim have this same stance that the people should decide what they want.

Why all of a sudden now that a different country is doing the same thing they have done countless times throughout history its suddenly a problem? They claim to fight for freedom, but its very clear that they do it only when it suits them.

If Biafra wants to leave to join Cameroon of all countries talk about from frypan to fire thats their choice, and they should be free to make it. Which is in line with the values the west promotes. So all these your talk of Ukraine seeding land and what not has no meaning because those people choose not to be in Ukraine anymore. Same way many countries today chose not to be in the USSR anymore. Drop your bias abeg

See how naively you put across your point.

jikins:
Na so Elon Musk whisperer. Only you know say they reason he spoke was because of the tax he is paying. Someone thats worth more than the gdp of several countries. Its his tax he pays in US thats making him say what he said.

When Elon Musk assisted Ukraine in the beginning of the war you were in your bed sleeping now that he has proposed freedom of expression he is suddenly supporting Russia. See why I said you don't think beyond your bias. Oga go sleep and stop digesting the bias of the west. Its unbecoming

Elon Musk is now your God!?
Ordinary Twitter deal, he messed up how much more when he has less that 10% of Intelligence report!
SMH!

Krismas:
U just a western LICKSPITTLE. U think Nigeria is free from British colonialism?
Let me show u exactly who those u supporting look like

The W.H.O. Gave 50 Million Smallpox Vaccines Laced With HIV Aids To Africans.

You can’t imagine the evil that lives among us

On May 11, 1987, London Times Headline Reported World Wide

Just as you justify Russian invasion of Ukraine, you can justify the British recolonization of Nigeria!

LegalWolf:
Man, I will debate the Quran with you,10000000000%. I want us to test the waters with it. I’m fine with that. You asked does the Language the Bible was revealed matter. Man. It does. I am talking of the four canonical gospels and other books. If we do not even know who wrote Mark and the other books embellishing it (Matthew and Luke) and the John, why should we believe it to be the word of God? Why should we trust it’s accuracy (not that it is historically or factually accurate in the first place)? Why should we trust it in general.


Now you assume, without proof, that scriptures referred to in the Holy Quran is the dubious New Testament you have. Same as you assumed that Yahya equals yohannan (where the Quran expressly stated otherwise). I’m not even going further with elaboration unless there is a need to.

I would help with translation. That’s the simplest thing to do. But my own concern is that let us put the historicity of the New Testament and yhwh into the witness box. Are you scared of that too? We’ve not even moved to more interesting topics that sixfiguresmart caved out.

Agree to put the dubious NT and yhwh into the witness box (subject to onslaught) and you’ll have me running to respond to you. Just keep to your [b] promise [\b] of answering questions on the history of the NT and we are fine.

Is Allah wrong in Qur'an 2:41?


Answer my question and stop being evasive. Translate the simple Arabic script


إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

LegalWolf:
Mr. Man, the same way sixfiguresmart lied and ran away from defending the Bible is the same way you’re running away as well. So tell me, what language was the Bible initially written, who authored it? Was the ascription to the authorship we know it today historically and factually correct?

Does it matter to you what language the books of the people of the books are revealed in ?

Is Allah lying or misinformed when he said

Qur'an 2:41:
And believe in the Book which I have revealed and which confirms the Scripture you already have , and be not foremost among its deniers. Do not sell My signs for a trifling gain, and beware of My wrath.

Note that Allah did not tell you Muslims the language he (sic) revealed the book/scripture in. Did he tell you?




This asside:
Why did you dodge translating a simple Arabic script?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥


Why are your scholars doing EVERYTHING to mistranslate the Qur'an!

Are you afraid you will tell lies in translating the above?

Sixfiguresmart:
hahaha they are reading this and wondering what to say. They are helpless and hopeless in severe pain as we tear down this noble quran for them. It is bewildering. Somehow enervating to see defenders of the islamic faith suddenly disappear and can't even stand or shake.

I guess LegalWolf is seeing the mistranslations for the first time. It is actually impossible to logically defend. How can a replacement of just ONE word (a noun for that matter) change the meaning of a phrase?

Sixfiguresmart:
I will tell you. The GOVERNMENT, not just individuals, are buying stocks in top western companies. Their targets are the west. They use this to control the narrative. That is why posts are sensors and banned on top platforms. They also have advertising deals with top companies in the world to deter you from exposing Islam. For Saudis, the Hajj is one of the reasons for their existence. It is a huge fanfare the Hajj.
They rake in billions from tourism. They have an airline called Saudia airline. Las time I flew it, I regretted. There were too many almajiris on the plane. The entire plane was oozing. Their dress code was horrible and they buy all sorts of toxins claiming to be from the holy land. They have holy water, dates, carpets etc.

So google is abiding to certain terms too. Majority of the Arabic translators are Muslims. They will phrase their religion in the light that they want you to see it. Do not always rely on it.

For a non native Arabic language speaker, translation tool is mandatory. Unfortunately, Muslims are prone to lies in translations of both the Qur'an and the Hadiths whenever they feel embarrassed about the truth.

Unfortunately, arguing with Muslims about the Qur'an requires you to prove to them what the Arabic says. Their usual argument is that Arabic is 1000 times more expressive than English language and the English translation is wrong.

Only traps well set catches a prolific Muslim liar!

TheOgaBoss:
Nigeria never originally belonged to Britain neither did america

Who gave us the Name Nigeria?

Oduduwa?
Uthman Dan Fodio?

Sixfiguresmart:
It is the same as the other but issa/Jesus was substituted
that Jesus and his angels prayed to the prophet, you people or you guys who are faith-ful pray to him and surrender peace to him.

Exactly,
I replaced Allah with Jesus and the true translation of the script was rendered

If you replace Jesus with Allah, you will see that Google will mistranslate the sentence to mean a completely different statement!

Steep:
you are basing your argument outside scripture.
There is no such thing as angel DNA in the bible.

another thing you should note is that the Nephillims were not said to be offspring of the sons of God.

Again nephilims are humans. They were called men of renown and were destroyed with the flood.

Nephillims are purely sons of Adam and Eve!?

The fallen angels were also descendants of Adam and Eve. This qualifies their offspring to be purely sons of Adam and Eve!?

I hope you know what a Liger is?
Is it a Tiger or a Lion?

If you cannot speak the truth on this, you are beyond Redemption!

Sixfiguresmart:
Bro, Arabs know this. The only reason stopping many from leaving islam is the rebuttal. There is a huge list of Saudi Arabian who have left islam.

They understand everything. These black abeeds are ignorant. They do not know what they are fighting for. Iranians are protesting to liberate themselves from islam, while these black monkeeez are fighting to enslave themselves.

I am actually surprised at Google. They've been modifying the translation since I started posting about it about a month ago.

How much were they paid to do this?

Sixfiguresmart:
That name was stolen from Christian just like many other names in Arabic. Originality is a rare gem to them

He is desperately trying to dodge answering the question!

Muslims will contradict Allah and his Qur'an just to make Islam and Mohammed look good!

Sixfiguresmart:
You are surely getting education from my posts. Good job. Now you know yahyah? Nice!!

The question was very simple

Yaḥyā ibn Zakarīyā
(Arabic: يحيى ابن زكريا, )

What is the meaning of Yaḥyā?

The name occurred at least five times in the Qur'an!

Sixfiguresmart:
I will translate this literally to you.

that Gabriel and his angels prayed to the prophet, you people or you guys who are faith-ful pray to him and surrender peace to him.

This is the literal translation. The most basic that I can dare from Arabic to English. Call any Arabic speaker and remove allah and jubril from the equation. Inject faisal in it and you will get this that I put up there. No jokes bro.

How about this: I see that Google translate is getting smarter. Guess some people have reported me to them



إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

They seem not to have taken care of this though!

Final translation of the above please!

LegalWolf:
Lol, you are both scared and not knowledgeable. I thought you have knowledge of Islam and Arabic. So Yahya is derived from yhwh?? I have never seen a dumb (er) take than this. I know yhwh is an idi0tic slowpoke and its worshippers are slow. Please let us test yhwh in the witness box and cross-examine the bible and see if it can stand the scrutiny of being a 'holy book' not to talk of word of God (apparently not the imbecilic yhwh).

It is not matter of spamming my mentions with Quranic verses and running. Let us do it, traverse the history and historicity of both books and religions. Let me know when you agree. In the absence of that....Shssss

What is the meaning of Yahyah?

Sixfiguresmart:
They are all liars and defenders of lies. That word is a simple Arabic word. Undisputed. It means to pray. That is what they use in the salat. Salat means prayer. salah
يُصَلُّونَ means yusallun = they prayed.
Surah 33:43-44 It is He Who prays on you and His angels invoke blessings on you that He may lead you out of darkness into light. He is Most Compassionate to the believers.
ہُوَ الَّذِیۡ یُصَلِّیۡ عَلَیۡکُمۡ وَمَلٰٓئِکَتُہٗ لِیُخۡرِجَکُمۡ مِّنَ الظُّلُمٰتِ اِلَی النُّوۡرِ ۚ وَکَانَ بِالۡمُؤۡمِنِیۡنَ رَحِیۡمًا

Can you truthfully and without lies help me translate this into English language

Composition102:
إِنَّ جبريل وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا

Steep:
When it comes to spiritual truths a Christian should depends solely on the bible not on experience or any other.
You are wrong the Nephillims were humans who were giants.


Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

The nephilims were humans.

Nephillims were humanoid!

Okay!
Father=Fallen Angel
Mother=Human

Resulting DNA= Neither human NOR Angel.

Nephillims cannot be human.

They were even GIANTS!

LegalWolf:
Lol, the thing is neither yhwh nor Christianity can stand in the witness box. My purpose just twofold; show that Christianity is inherently illogical In both doctrinal and rational sense and that there’s almost nothing you blame Islam for that you can’t find equivalent in Christianity.


At least, the Quran is written is Arabic that you can make reference to. But the authorship of the Bible is dubious. Even the extant Greek texts does not attribute authorship to who is currently acclaimed to write them. Worse still, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE whatsoever that the original texts was ever scribbled in Aramaic or Hebrew (the language of the acclaimed authors). And you nerve to debate me.

Mr. Man, let’s set the rules of debate. Propose your terms and I will do mine. To the extent that you allow me out the Bible and yhwh in the witness box, cross-examine their veracity, logicality and truth. We are good to go

You can't even go there: as your Allah attests to my Scripture! Liars will even go against their Allah to make a point.

Time waster: debate over lies!?
My job is to bring to your notice lies , Deceptions and Untruths as I see them in the religion of piss!

You despise YHWH yet Allah gave names like Yahyah to a man!?

Sorry!
It's either Allah who you represent is confused or you are a LIAR!

Kobojunkiee:
1. What you keep wanting me to believe is that in the course of your claimed obedience to the work of Jesus Christ, you have come upon the knowledge that contradicts even that which is of Jesus Christ, and I keep telling you that Jesus Christ warned of this when He mentioned that even false teachers and false prophets would also state they too do the work of Christ.

Every statement you have made here regarding angels and demons corroborates that written in extra-scriptural sources, some of which I mentioned, - The Book of Enoch & demonoglie - and it all conflicts with much of that stated contextually in scripture.

2. Again, the context of Daniel 12 does not indicate Michael's character as an angel but instead as an individual of great influence over the people of Israel. The idea that Michael is some sort of angel is not a part of the Hebrew script at all, meaning that idea came in much later from other sources.

Just show me a single place where
Jesus said:
1. Michael is not an Angel
2. Demons are fallen angels
3. Michael according to Daniel is a man.

That's why you couldn't Answer three simple questions I gave you

gammarays1:
How much did China, India contribute to Russia?
They sided Russia by trading with them.

Ukraine should invade Russia since it's a war, they have NATO, weapons, information and money.

Russia is big enough now!
It shows how much respect Russia has internationally!

After all, a rich bully need no help

Kobojunkie:
1. I am speaking of my experience, and nothing of my experience leads me to state that which contradicts or adds to any of that which is the Word of God in this and everything else. The 70 who came back spoke nothing of that which contradicts that taught to them by Jesus Christ either.

2. Again, no matter what experience you claim to have amassed for yourself if the understanding you have does not agree with that which is the Word of God, your experience along with all of the understanding you claim is worthless. That is what Jesus Christ taught particularly when He mentioned that even false prophets and teachers will boast of experience in all you continue to mention.

So, for the umpteenth time, let's stick with that which is written as opposed to that which is assumed.

The bible did not explicitly teach about angels or demons.
In the course of obediently doing the work of Christ, you will understand better to know that demons are NOT fallen angels.

And Daniel 12 spoke of Michael the Price of Israel: an angel!

Those who do not have their experience should simply obey Christ in Faith and CHrist will back them up. The experience of Christ backing you up in the course of obedience is your experience alone.

Krismas:
Wen was USA or Nigeria ever being for Britain? U talking trash. Go to Edostate, for example. You will find indigenous Yorubas in Edo. Thing is, Ofusus have been there long b4 edostate was formed. Its state creation that cut a part of ondostate and a part of bendelstate to form Edostate. So that’s wot happened in Ukraine. If u live in border towns, during state creation, u could find ur parlor being in Lagos state while your bedroom being ogunstate

I am not speaking about Edo or ondo.
I speak about Nigeria: the british even gave us that name.

They can come back a recolonize us: abi?
LOL!

TheOgaBoss:
Crimea originally belonged to Russia.

What a logic!

America originally belongs to Britain.
Nigeria Originally belong to Britain.

You should be recolonized my friend!

Krismas:
Google can help u about the gas wars btw Russia and Ukraine. Chk google b4 displaying ur ignorance. America always backed Ukraine that’s why even the European court could not do anything. That’s why Mickel advised Putin to start d Nord stream

What you are telling me that Europe is supporting Ukraine that is making life difficult for them bu cutting of gas supply!?

Brillant!

jikins:
Your question has nothing to do with the point we were discussing on. I like staying on a point until its trashed before moving to something else. I don't do hazardous discussions.

Point is Elon Musk deal isn't saying categorically that Ukraine will give up their lands or seaport. It simply says let the people choose, so others don't keep dieing meaningless deaths. This is a deal a country who is sure of its citizens and how well they have treated them will leap at without thinking twice.

Russia invaded a sovereign country.
Russia covet the sovereign neighbours property

Advice:
Let the peaceful neighbour give Russia what she wants!

I feel like wishing you the same thing you wish Ukraine.

If Cameroon decides to perform the same gambit with Nigeria by organising a referendum on Biafra, do you think Nigeria will agree (Lets assume the UN will come to moderate the referendum)

PietraK:
You are ignorant. You need to read and stop listening to propaganda

LOL!

gammarays1:
Una funny
For Putin and Russia to survive in the midst of bitting sanctions against a NATO and allied backed Ukraine boosted with billions of dollars is a miracle to be studied.

Ukraine and NATO should have taken the battle to Russia. You don't just fight soldiers and call it a war.
Bomb and capture Russian cities too.

All I see is Ukraine and Russia at war.

Russia has her allies- China, Belarus, India
Ukraine also has her Allies- USA, UK, Germany, France, etc

Each one is simply using her resources.

jikins:
Lol you just have endless insecurities bro. I have not once supported anyside in any of my comments but you somehow see shades out of nowhere.

Elon Musk point isn't Myopic, you are just short sighted and can't look beyond your bias. You dont even understand Elon Musk point is on how to bring down the temperature so it doesn't gets out of hand drawing the world into a lose lose WWIII. Your bias sees his comments and assumes he is speaking about American tax payers when he didn't mention a single cent.

Same way your bias has made you tag anyone not supporting your view or trying to correct your bias pro Russia. I could careless who win Russia or Ukraine. I don't have a bone in the fight either way. So check yourself

Elon Musk is concerned because he is paying tax to fund that which is NOT his business: and that is understandable.

Unfortunately it is a myopic view because ALL he is saying is that Ukraine should make the sacrifice of Destroying irrevocably her economy by ceeding ALL her seaports to Russia

2. Elon Musk knows that his advise will give Putin the Advantage of acquiring the Warm Seaports of Ukraine for its Navy, Economically cripple Ukraine

What does Ukraine has to gain when Elon Musk's advice is fully carried out?

PEACE and ECONOMIC hardship?

Sometimes, it is good to fightback an armed robber!

LegalWolf:
Hey TenQ, I haven’t been following your arguments. I’ve been bloodying sixfiguresmart nose for a while. Don’t worry, let me finish with him, I’m coming to you soon.

But just a few questions - are you willing to subject yhwh, christianity’s theological doctrines and ur storybook aka Bible in the witness box? Are willing to stand up to challenge of these challenge?

Qur'an 3:54
Arabic: ومكروا ومكر الله والله خير الماكرين
Literal: And they cheated/deceived and Allah cheated/deceived, and Allah (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers.

Without lies, Islam crumbles!

Steep:
Demons are fallen angels because lucifer himself is a demon.

Nephillim are humans.

I depend on scrupture not experience. What does the bible teach is all that matters.

Demons are inferior to angels because they are actually fallen angels.

I obey the commands of Christ: in the operation of my faith in Obedience, I learn thing you wont ever read in the scriptures. Did the scripture teach belivers how to preach, heal or conduct a deliverance? These are learnt by DOING!

Nephilims are NOT human my dear.

They are Hybrids of Human and Fallen Angels. They are neither Angels nor humans.

Now, the question again: When a Nephilim dies, where does their soul go to?

BuddhaPalm:
You make a good point, however a country cannot escape its geography.

The US doesn't colonize Mexico, or steal their resources.

However, Mexico knows who is boss and tries not to piss then off.

Mexico will not dare enter a military alliance with China.

The consequences, both economic and military would be dire.

Russia invades Ukraine for an offence that was yet to be committed: this is wrong.

As of the time of their invasion of Ukraine, Ukraine had not even submitted any document or application to join NATO.

If that was the key objective of Russia, they could have given that as the condition for invasion. The truth is that Putin needed the invasion to boost his domestic approval ratings and to annex the warm water seaports of Ukraine for its Navy

Sixfiguresmart:
They surreptitiously hide in shame whenever they get exposed. Rather than focusing on the fact, they simply want to throw mud on the message

Without lies, Islam crumbles!
Their father is a liar from the beginning of time!

No wonder, in jannah, muslims would be unable to recognize their allah who has two right hands