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dawnomike:
You may be right... But, respect other people's religion and beliefs.
No one was born with a religion. We all came to this world and chose what to believe. #Choice

darediamond:
Russia is not only liberating Ukrainians but it is as well doing us favor in Africa.

Do you notice Italy Newest leader attack on France now over the destruction France is brigging upon her colonies in Africa?

Kobojunkie:
1. What "angels"? Read what is written again to see that no angel is in fact mentioned in that entire chapter.

Kobojunkie:
2. And the bold is where the issue seems to come from since many of you confuse that which you read from even pagan sources with fact.

I don't see how anyone can conclude that by preaching what you call evangelism, healing the sick, casting out demons, one can gain understanding of demons and angels. It does not add up at all.

Kobojunkie:
1. I believe I have more than explained what "Prince of Persia" would imply in a context where "King of Persia" is indicated as current ruler of the same Kingdom.

Kobojunkie:
2. I am not about to chase shadows in this since all you have offered so far are conjectures on that issue.

What experience? I have never cast out an angel from any persons for me to claim experience would provide me such understanding as the one you claim.

elated177:
Well, you tried throwing more light, but I needed you to clarify that the fear and others are not for mere human beings. Are demons afraid of mere human beings?

Kobojunkie:
1. I am afraid I don't follow you at all. What has the verse you quoted to do with the context of this here discussion?

Kobojunkie:
2. I don't understand! How does casting out a demon provide me with this understanding of them being vastly inferior to angels?

elated177:
Makes a lot of sense, apart from the bolded, though.

Kobojunkie:
1. The Prince of Persia was no "fallen angel" or any of the sort. There is no mention of such in that entire context.
In verse 1, we are informed of the King of Persia, Cyrus, the great. So it follows that a mention of the Prince of the same land would reference the nobility of the very same Kingdom, would it not?

2. And your theories regarding fallen angels? Where in the world do you get those ideas from?

3. Where is this claim you make regarding the person of the Prince of Persia stated in scripture?

Rtk5:
I've been married to my wife for almost five years now. My major problem with her is that she lacks gratitude, she doesn't have the spirit and character of appreciation.

Infact even if you buy a private jet for her, she will be happy at the moment but after 5mins she will forget that you've ever done anything for her and if you don't do things for her, you will see her complaining more than the way Nigerians are complaining under buhari.

This her attitude is really becoming unbearable.

Kobojunkie:
And not a single one of the claims made here have anything to do with what is in fact written in Daniel 10. Imagine that !

mysticwarrior:
The prince of Persia is only mentioned in Daniel 10, a highly apocalyptic (and therefore at least partially symbolic) section of the book of Daniel. Most likely, the prince of Persia is a reference to an evil spiritual entity that wielded authority over the ancient kingdom of Persia.

The prophet Daniel had received a troubling vision concerning a great war (Daniel 10:1). He went into a three-week period of mourning, fasting, and prayer. In response to Daniel’s prayer, God sent a heavenly messenger to explain the vision. However, the messenger was delayed for those same three weeks, as he explains to Daniel: “But the prince of the Persian kingdom resisted me twenty-one days.

Then Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, because I was detained there with the king of Persia” (Daniel 10:13). Later, the angel speaking to Daniel predicts further fighting: “Soon I will return to fight against the prince of Persia, and when I go, the prince of Greece will come; but first I will tell you what is written in the Book of Truth. (No one supports me against them except Michael, your prince)” (verses 20–21).

Vl3ly:
Russia is fighting NATO and EU and also Ukraine

Krismas:
U can go on stammering like a western bot, regurgitating every scam u hear on CNN. Wot makes u so concerned about Ukraine while u show indifference to Serbia? Were Serbian civilians not bombed by the Americans? Was Serbia not divided into two? Why are u preaching one-sided? Supporting America who can do ANYTHING AT ANYTIME and get high praise from peeps like u. Bye bye jor

Freebills12:
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You lied! Truth is one and can never be two. Whenever you change the narrative, you are lying! How can condemnation of the act of homosexuality be the same thing as accepting the act. You lied against the Pope, hope you will be glad if other people do the same to you?

Krismas:
U have no point.
Was the Orange Revolution in 2014? Was the counter Orange Revolution in 2014? Was the coup in 2014? Was the meidan incident 2014? The events of today are an accumulation of several yrs of suppression of eastern Ukrainians by Kiev regimes. Even today, that narrative cannot be found in western media. People think it’s Russia against Ukraine. But actually it’s western Ukraine against Eastern Ukraine. Any analysis that ignores these truth is bound to crashland

Krismas:
Ur questions are VERY NAIVE cos u fail to see dat UN is just America’s errand boy. Kosovo addressed the just concluded 77UNGA. A country not recognized by lots of country which was single handedly created by the Americans and NATO. So, who is UN?

Krismas:
1. Who decides who and who and who is a sovereign nation?
Wen America and NATO created Kosovo out of Serbia, why didn’t u say SERBIA IS A SOVEREIGN NATION?

lkamandoncome:
Okay Ukraine was killing and marginalising ethnic Russian people in Ukraine, Putin only invaded and free ethnic Russians in Ukraine

Freebills12:
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Where did he the Pope said that homosexuality is not a sin? Sometimes illiteracy is your problem. He condemned the act as a devilish behavior which is against nature but prayed for conversion of homosexuals. Catholic Church is a custodian of morality in the whole world. Don't just insult your stupidity and ignorance.

Farid24224:

How dare you talk sh*t about Islam!!!

Your Religion is the most useless religion...A fading religion that needs it's book to be updated time to time...

Emuforlife1:
I hit a nerve

lkamandoncome:
Russia is fighting to free the world

Emuforlife1:
Same man that said SAME-SEX marriage is allowed in Christianity.
Christians always encourage what is forbidden in their Bible all in the name of being "Woke" and civilized.
They started by promoting Alcoholism, Disobedience, Nudity, Pornography and Now their POPE (the most revered in Christendom) said Same-sex marriage is not a sin.
Religion of "Wokeists" and Conformists...

onumadu:
Agape is UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. It means loving without conditions.
I doubt that one can have unconditional love for someone they are related with (that relationship is a condition). lol
Human beings are naturally selfish. Almost immutably so. It can happen that we Agape our relations, but hardly so. We Philia them.
That stranger you helped on the roadside without asking for any reward is more of what Agape means.

The best experience I can remember of Agape is an experience I had while traveling through a foreign country.
In that country, English is not the official language. So, I couldn't do the most basic things like board a public transport, or lodge in a hotel. I couldn't do ANYTHING.
Then, this man came out of nowhere (when he saw me looking lost and helpless with by baggage). He volunteered his whole day to take me to a hotel.
Helped me change my dollars into local currency (without scamming me ), helped me pay my hotel bill, took me to a restaurant where I had dinner, and kept me company a little that evening. The next morning, he came first thing in the morning to again continue where he stopped. He took me to the bus station, helped me pay the bus fare, put me inside the bus, and stood there waiting for the bus to leave. When I offered him some money (because he didn't look rich; infact he looked like he needed the money), HE FLATLY TURNED ME DOWN POLITELY.
When the bus was leaving, he stood there as if making sure that I left in peace. He waved at me till my bus drove away to the airport.
Till today, I still believe he was an angel sent by God to help me.
That, to me, is AGAPE fully demonstrated.

AntiChristian:
See this nincompoop without empathy! Someone converts to Islam and they almost killed him.

No be Christians like you did that?

Foolish Galatians!

TenQ:
I'm so sorry for your pains and tribulations caused by people who probably didn't know better. The kingdom of God is not a community or a family thing.

I wish that the owner of this testimony is the poster!

I almost became a Muslim too in my 200 levels in the University. It was the Quran that pursued me back to Christ.

I want to assume that
1. You believe that Jesus did not die on the cross and He was neither crucified.
2. And you believe that Miriam the sister of Aaron is the mother of Jesus
3. And that you are going to Hell after death before Allah will remove you.
4. You also believe that the sun sets in the black murky waters
5. And you now believe that your semen comes from between your backbone and your rib cage.
6. You believe that in conception, the semen is becomes a baby by first turning into a kind of congealed blood
7., 8, 9......

SInce Allah dictated the Quran, can it harbour so much errors?
Actually, just one error in the quran prove that it cannot be from God.

It is unfortunate that your foundation in Christ is zero probably because of the church you grew into, but if you truly seek God the Creator of everything, you have chosen a religion of lies.

Without lies, Islam crumbles!

onumadu:
I think you mixed things here.
Parental love for their child is Philia NOT Agape.

Agape has no connections whatsoever. It is love for love's sake.
Only God, and people who copy God, practice Agape.

TenQ:
In the Greek, the word LOVE can mean three different thing as you have said
Eros: Emotional, Romantic or even Sexual Love
Felio/Philia: Family bond/Fratanity kind of endearment
Agape: Unconditional Love.

You are very wrong about Agape love. Agape love experiences the greatest pain and jealousy

Agape love is the kind of love your parent have for you as their child. It is unconditional.

So, how do you think you will feel having a child you heavily invested in BUT who doesn't know nor care to know that you are his/her parent BUT prefer to spend his time to relate to a particular teacher in school as a loving child?

onumadu:
Thanks for your loving contribution, but you are still humanizing God.
You talk of a girl. lol

If you know how some of us see God, you would not remotely use that analogy.

BTW I agree with you that God LOVES. EOD.

When humans talk of "Love" they mostly mean "EROS" (Greek word for love by human sexes, one for another).
God's LOVE is AGAPE (Greek word for UNCONDITIONAL LOVE).
Eros comes with jealousy. Agape doesn't.

ManirBK:
Sunday Remijius, now Abubakar, hails from Udenu Local
Government Area of Enugu State. Born into a strong
Catholic family, the graduate of Economics education, from
the Nasarawa State College of Education who loves
cooking, was employed at one of the Shoprite offices in
Abuja as a Merchandiser.
....
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Ilamina:

onumadu:
I invite deep spiritual scholars and philosophers to this topic.

My argument here is that the idea that God is a jealous being is likely a man made concept.
I reached this conclusion following the logic of KEY information about GOD in the Bible and other spiritual books.

Nehemiah 9:6
“You alone are the Lord; You have made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their
host, the earth and everything on it, the seas and all that is in them, and You preserve them
all. The host of heaven worships You.”

Please note the “all their host” meaning all powers that operates everywhere.
Also note the “You preserve them” meaning that without God none of such forces can survive/sustain, or exist.

How can God then be jealous of anything that he created? Help me understand this Please!

To summarize, I believe that everything that exist in the visible and invisible space exists inside of God’s mind or imagination. It makes no sense for God to be jealous of his own creation and imagination.


See the black background in the attached picture depicting the observable universe. To my understanding, that background is GOD.
The entire universe (or universes) exist inside of God. A painting is drawn on a canvass. Without the canvass the painting cannot exist.

Using human example, when you close your eyes and imagine things (in the “next world” thoughts produce things), how can you become jealous of some of the things you imagine?
If the thing starts to assume dimensions you don’t want, you can simply stopped imagining it, and it would cease to exist. Period.

My Bible knowledge class teacher in high school (a theologian) told us in class that the Bible translators created that jealous God idea. He said that what the original text meant was that God is a ZEALOUS being rather than a jealous being. Someone changed zealous to jealous. Could this be the actual explanation?

Am I missing something or am I mistaking something?

God could not be jealous. Man could, and is obviously due to man’s insecurities!
So, man created God that looks and behaves like man. The GOD I believe in is NOT man.
He said so in the Bible that his ways are not like man’s ways. (Isaiah 55 v 8 ) "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD."

What do you think?
Please make your points clearly (i.e. whether in support or opposition without preaching or insults) because God is a lifelong lecture.

Happy New Month!

Samunique:
See the way you just trapped yourself !

If allah did not pray to Muhammed but pray for Muhammed, the question is, "who was allah praying to"

Was he praying to himself on behalf of Muhammed or what

Cc TenQ

Maynman:
You seems to have short memory, didn’t i also ask you a question?