₦airaland Forum

LordReed:
That was not communicated to me. Also I have answered the question asked.

Okay!

Mercychen:
So, today I took Bible study on "the light" so in the course of our study we discussed that John the Baptist was not the light himself but a mere reflector of the light. A witness of the light ( Christ).

We also looked at the fact that we were declared the light. ... It was also said that we are greater than John the Baptist because we were declared the light but he was not.

So my pastors and the ministers threw a question to me. Saying, why was John the Baptist not the light himself?

Though I tried to explain that it was probably because he was before Christ and that only those who came after Christ and accepted him were qualified to be called the light.

Now, I knew my answer was not satisfactory because even my pastor pointed out that other people who were before Jesus became the light but... Why was Johns case different if my pastor submission was anything to go by?..

Please, shed more light. I'm curious.

Now I'm throwing it here. Why was John the Baptist not the light?

There is only ONE Light, and He is God!
Whoever has the Holy Spirit has His Light to Shine to the world (John the Baptist was not a partaker of this but we are)
So, technically, Jesus could tell us "Let YOUR Light shine...."

benuejosh:
Hmm. FFK your extended family members who hate Buhari are out for you now. Yesterday you supported IPOBs the terrorist organization against the most loved president of our dear great nation. Today you have seen the light and have decided to take an exit from their evil camp, while do you think they won't bring up stories against you?

One of the BMC spotted!!
They see what everyone else cannot see
Even with insecurity escalating and hunger spreading over the land
Even when our beloved are fragmented over ethnic grounds as a result of bad governance

LordReed:
This:

Question:
How do you know something that is not physical when the instruments by which you know things are physical?

There are many things that are known NOT by physical instruments BUT by other abilities given to man such as
1. Intuition
2. Conscience
3. Instinct
Just as the five physical senses, they exist to help man know things that are strictly not physical!

Crystyano:
Leave me alone!

Stop disturbing my life!

Your conscience is disturbing you!?
Dont kill it.
He's there for your own good!!

LordReed:
The question you asked was:

No where in it do you ask anything about existence.

The questions were in the perspective of EXISTENCE. The premise was laid by one of you guys who said: anything that is not physical does not exist

Crystyano:
Who cares?

No one cares about the brute mule!
No one cares!!

Crystyano:
Truth my arse....

I can see why....!!

LordReed:
Well until YOU answer MY question I will not give you any further answer. I asked you a question and you want to divert to something else.

What was your question?

LordReed:
It is not PHYSICAL, I didn't say anything about existence.

The topic of the OP is about EXISTENCE not physical things!

Crystyano:
Your comparisons and analogies are in vain


To hell with anything else you say!!!

Your SHOUTING and SCREAMING amounts to Nothing Bro!!
Face the truth!!

Crystyano:
Google doesn't have anything that shows how spirits exist....

As for the software,
That's a needless question since it's based on your needless comparison!

You are like a person who is so fixed in the mechanical world refusing to acknoloedge the existence of softwares!

Instead of mindlessly breying "That's a needless question", why dont you put it to TEST?

LordReed:
Dude I answered the question now answer mine then ask me to give you examples. After all I asked you a question first.

An instrument is a DEVICE that enhances human perception of realities: you didnt answer my question as no instrument was mentioned

LordReed:
The instrument of being able to communicate which at any point requires physical means. Are you now going to answer my question?

You didn't mention any Instrument?

LordReed:
Something that has objective manifestation ie we can measure it in some way.

In other words, by your definition, anything that we can't measure objectively does NOT exist!?

KnownUnknown:
So which of the despisers of truth are you or are you an amalgamation of the three kinds?

What are you doing to defog your brain?

Says one who is confused about his nature!

KnownUnknown:
You know what else is NOT in the physical realm?
Rambambadoo the super duper artificer of the multiverse.

The response was for LordReed and he understands my answer!

KnownUnknown:
Seriously?!
You give light as an example of non physical things on one hand then use light as an example of physical things on the other hand. What kind of reasoning is this?

Just believe by faith as you’re asked and leave science alone. You’re just embarrassing yourself.

How is this baby scientist?

LordReed:
How do you know something that is not physical when the instruments by which you know things are physical?

Which instrument did you use to know that you are conscious and can reason?

LordReed:
Energy is physical, including all it's forms.

Energy is physical !?
Define:
What is physical?

LordReed:
Except I don't know what supernatural means as a matter of experience. What does a supernatural action look like? Can you describe it in general terms?

It simply means NOT in the physical realms

KnownUnknown:
The outer skull is made of spirit material so it is very permeable. That’s why the essentials are funneled through it.

If my reasoning faculty appears fogged when I spew the same type of arguments you make, what does that make your reasoning faculty?

Some kinds of people despise truth: some by self deception others by confusion and some by noth thinking deep enough.
If the brain is really fogged, what can one expect?

KnownUnknown:
My body hardware is powered by liquid emerald and unobtanium funneled through my outer skull.

It is liquid
It is funneled through your outer skull

Probably that's why your reasoning faculty is fogged!

LordReed:
Which I gave so where is the escapism? The only way my body functions is by natural processes, simple.

Then, the same kind of answer should suffice for you:

The way a soul/spirit function is by supernatural means!

QED!!

LordReed:
Natural bodily processes.

A Natural Escapism behaviour from your kind.

A simple question deserves a simple direct answer.

LordReed:
I don't.

What powers your body hardware?
Your CPU or the operating system?

LordReed:
How do you mean start with my own portrait?

You have a Soul/Spirit, you can start from there

Crystyano:
At least,
You can Google how the softwares are created and combined with the hardwares....


The same can't be said for spirits and humans except you want to fool yourself....

So elementary an argument: can't you also Google about spirits?

Let me ask you a simple question:
Can you describe how a system or application software look in a computer?

LordReed:
That's not my concern. If spirits can be seen then they can captured on camera.

Good luck to you then in your hunting!
Why don't you start with your own portrait!?

Crystyano:
My consciousness doesn't require anything except me to exist.....

My intelligence doesn't require anything except me to exist.....

Comparing spirits to softwares doesn't make sense......

Compare what happens when the software is deleted from a computer AND when the soul/spirit leaves the body except you intend to fool yourself.

Exactly as the software is to a computer is how the soul/spirit is to a human being

LordReed:
Angels are spirits are they not, people claim to have seen angels. So I have a reasonable expectation to be able to capture spirits on camera.

Did you read my last post?

TenQ:
Even though it's not impossible,
Are you sure they saw spirits?

Spirits by their nature are not of the natural properties and energies except in special instances and at their own volition .

No one can make a spirit appear in another state

LordReed:
How did all the people that saw spirits see them if they don't reflect light?

Even though it's not impossible, Are you sure they saw spirits?

Spirits by their nature are not of the natural properties and energies except in special instances and at their own volition.