logik29:
Please guys what should I reply him. I don't want to spoil my first sale.Since 22nd I got this message.

My 1st question is did you setup your nameserver properly, when you visit the url, does it resolve for you?

This is a key question, before your call comes in, this guy might still be checking to see if the website will come up

Nobody has asked this, Everyone one is saying list on Dan or Afternic. If he made a mistake in the nameserver, Isnt he likely going to make the same mistake with Afternic or Dan?

there is also a possibility that the nameserver had not propagated when he sent the outbound message. We should ask more questions so that we can give good advice, so that others dont learn the wrong thing

Koats14:
Start with compound names. Eg. CornMeal, OakPay, MellowTiger. I noticed they're accepting more of these names (unregistered) compared to blends (Zobelle, Hobelle, Payeer et al).

Keep trying bro. I got over 20 rejections before the first accepted name. Yours will come.

you said it authoritatively that he should start with compound name?

This is the issue I always have. Do you know the names he has been submitting?

Newbies are learning from answers that are being given. we should learn to ask questions before proffering solutions.

You dont know the kind of names he has been submitting, you dont know the option he has been using to submit his names.

we can do better biko.

Someone reached out complaining that SH was rejecting his names, I asked to see some of the names, they were all Geos

Princealex1:
Good morning fellas, have couple of questions but let me first rant.

Is SH messing with me or what?? Been submitting well constructed and researched names for weeks and they keep rejecting like a curse. Or is it because its free unregistered name

To those who have been successful with SH, pleeeeease, is there any not-in-the-book trick/tip/hint/rule that can get ones name accepted, and if not seems free submissions is just a medium for SH to get ideas and pick when they feel like

show us the best 2 domains on that list, lets tell you whether you are on the right track or not. you can send it my whatsapp if you are not comfortable posting it here. you might be surprised that you are the one who is not getting it

beckplanet:

Congrats bro. More sales

Alaye, Oga mi, Thanks for everything.

I appreciate

Mikebio:
Hello boss I submitted two self registered name at Squad help for premium approval one was accepted ND the other rejected my question is should I list the rejected as basic plus on Squad help and pay for logo design since it was accepted for basic plus or I should delist and list on Afternic with nameservers pointing to Afternic..Thanks in anticipation

Basic plus listing isnt exclusive. so you can do that, forget about logo design(or pay if you wish)

then list the name on Epik,Afternic,Dan but the nameserver will point to SH

tranxo:

Congrats. Why the"poor" exchange rate?

I am being modest, more like worst case scenario. The name was sold on installment plan, in this case 6months. I dont know what the exchange rate will be in 6months time but I doubt it will be less than 360.

I dont intend to withdraw the money until it is complete.

For the benefit of those that dont know, when your name sells on installment plan, For SH registered name, you wont be paid your full commission, your commission will be divided into the number of installment plan choosen. so you get that amount monthly.

Finally my 1st SH sale. This name was sold under installment plans and I wanted to report this when I had received 1st installment payment.

Hold time: 2months
Sale Price:$1599

My cut:$396 (N142,560 using 360 as exchange rate). Zero financial investment on my part, only time spent in searching for the name on ED.

Rule one in the business is PATIENCE. You must tie wrapper and Gele with it. If you persist, read and explore it will eventually pay off.

I would not have revealed the name as my practice is but monitoring spirits have beaten me to the game, heck I would have reported this only after I had received all my money. well here it is.

Some folks will regret not registering the name, not me. This is inline with my objective so no room for regret or if I had known.


PS:It is industry standard practice to reveal name when all monies have been received because anything can happen. I have broken this rule and I have also broken my personal style of not revealing names.

Finally my 1st SH sale. This name was sold under installment plans and I wanted to report this when I had received 1st installment payment.

Hold time: 2months
Sale Price:$1599

My cut:$396 (N142,560 using 360 as exchange rate). Zero financial investment on my part, only time spent in searching for the name on ED.

Rule one in the business is PATIENCE. You must tie wrapper and Gele with it. If you persist, read and explore it will eventually pay off.

I would not have revealed the name as my practice is but monitoring spirits have beaten me to the game, heck I would have reported this only after I had received all my money. well here it is.

Some folks will regret not registering the name, not me. This is inline with my objective so no room for regret or if I had known.


PS:It is industry standard practice to reveal name when all monies have been received because anything can happen. I have broken this rule and I have also broken my personal style of not revealing names.

Please someone should teach me how to appraise names without knowing the name. I really love to know. no one has monopoly of knowledge. The confidence with which some persons fix prices to names without knowing the name baffles me.

@liftkid There are many variables, apart from checking the .com, what other companies are using similar names or which names will the name likely be an upgrade for. search crunchbase and angelist and see what comes up.

when you type the name into crunchbase, dont hit the enter button, give it sometime it will display the result.

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TheSTreetman:



Same with me.. Since May 16

I still have 4th & 12th of May pending

I just revieved a preapproval mail for a name that was rejected but appealed since April 23rd.

Appeals takes time on SH but you have noting to loose. Go through your rejected names & appeal the ones that stand out to you.

Olakinsdotcom:

please boss I will also need your appraisal, I don't know where am getting it wrong SH just they throw my domain back. their was a domain I summited on may that got rejected on checking this morning I found that it has been registered and listed for 2k+.

Have you read this thread from the begining?

To go into brandable, you need to know what they are & how to form/coin them. You dont just start throwing names at SH.

its Ok to start from somewhere but there are pathfinders:men who threw names at brandable marketplaces, studied & became better at it with time.

its best you follow them rather than going through the school of hard knocks.

My ebooks are available, beckplanet tutorial is on the forum. After these you will develop a sixth sense for brandables

micynute94:
What r u even saying? Do I look like someone who is asking to be spoon fed? Do you know the amount of research I do every day? Or can't we ask questions again? Mr Know It All.

The time you spend on research everyday is none of my business. Questions are allowed and when you are told that it has been answered, you go look for it or give thanks when answered again. you dont go on a defense spree. someone pointed it to you that it had been answered, you went on an epistle on why you werent asking for question sake.

When I ask questions, I make sure there are questions that haven't been asked before or has a new angle to it so that all of us can learn from the answer. I could have easily ask some of my ogas here via email if I want to but others might not learn from it, so I ask it here on the thread.

Are you sure about the bolded? The sales report was made by 9:20pm, intial listing price answer was by 9:45pm.
Your question came in 2:21am the next day! As at 7:15pm next day, you were still defending yourself after possible explanation had been given.

Someone quoted me thinking I didn't read something well and I quoted the person back, letting the person know what I meant.

At this junction, do you still think you read well?

If you weren't too quick to jump to conclusion.. Another trait I dislike so much in people... I would have let you know that I was about to reply the OP when she posted her sales alert but was carried away by something urgent.

You reply someone next day or 4hours later and you say i jumped to conclusion. I dont care what carried you away, its none of my business. Thats for your consumption

And by the time I was through with everything I was doing, a lot of Q and A had happened on the thread.

Then you would have settled down to read all the Q and A. if you had done this, you wouldnt have asked that question or you would have had a better question to ask.


I owe you an apology for the entitlement part I was addressing 3 categories of people, those who feel entitled, those that dont read and those that dont explore. I was being generic, you were a point of contact

READ AND EXPLORE BRO, one love

@Prazo1

Thats the spirit. Congrats

Thats cool N50k minimum for you(Zero financial investment on your part)

You will be fired up to participate more

micynute94:


Make person sha no talk.

I asked for the initial selling price and not the amount they finally agreed to, which is $850.

Except the domain name was listed on DAN with a make offer, there would be a price attached to it.

D Op said he negotiated the price to $850 and I wanted to know how much he initially listed the name for. Was it $2000, $1500, $3000 or what?


How many dollars was shaved off before the buyer agreed to it and thought he got a great deal...

No be all of us dey ask questions for question sake..

Some of us actually wants to learn a thing or two to help us become better.

If I start you people will say I have started, that my own is too much. you are looking for someone who will hold hands with you, pat you on the back and sing kumbaya with you in the midst of having a sense of entitlement coupled with lack of zeal to read and explore.

If you had taken the time to read the sales report in question and the next 1-2 pages or post after it, you would have seen the answer to your question

zexzy:


I listed the name for $1500, I received a $200 offer, I countered $1400, he offered $700, I asked for $1200. He then offered $850 and I accepted. He paid immediately.

Firefox01:
What's up with this thread guys?

There will always be dull days and phases.

Thats why you must use patience to tie wrapper and Gele.

I will share my experiment on what to do while waiting for the inbound sales.,when the time is right. still experimenting and tweaking. I haven't been paid for the name I sold last because the buyer insisted on transfer. So i will have to wait for the 60days lock to expire. Then i can share more details about that transaction

OYENIYIJK:

when I get money fully now, I will read op book again and again. GEO no be by mouth oooo. Outbounding no easy. we are only moved by their sales report. When their is good stream of income make person dey buy good names, buyers go come one day. No be to sell $2000 domains for $200

Not when you have money. Take it as a manual, your go to guide. from time to time, you read it especially areas that werent so clear to you.

Dont wait until you have money. When money comes and you start making reference to the book, you will be acting under pressure.

little by little as you read, your understanding sharpens, more questions are formed in your mind, you will be able to explore more

kennypoka2:


Boss, sometimes your response are always too harsh. The responses they gave weren't that bad. Most times, when you get a response like that, it just shows the end user isn't a serious person and the best thing to do is to ignore and move on.

I hope you understand boss?

Ok, I understand

shedomains:
my sad experience
please my fellow domainers learn from my heart break and pains.hmmmmm i took out lots of hours from friday,saturday and sunday to formulate 5 good trending names that would have earn me some good $$$s .so i check all names and they were all available since there was no cash in my card .and expecting cash today monday so i decided to wait for monday.as i check this monday morning they have all been registered ,i only check their availability oooh nothing else, hmmmm sad morning for me.please if you are not with ready cash in your card or paypal keep your name till you do.i only check with dynadot.dont be a victim learn from my mistake.bless and have a fruitful week to all domainers.

Eyah, what a sad experience

I have been using Dynadot, namesilo even godaddy appraisal to check unregistered names.

Yes some of my names gets registered while on queue on SH & BB. its not theft because you are not the only domainer using same metrics.

You will always loose names if you dont register them immediately. This doesnt mean you go on a registration spree, due diligence should be performed even if it means loosing some names in the process.


One thing experience has taught me is there will always be good names to register. loosing some today isnt the end even though painful.

If you feel your names are being snapped, use whois to check

Ayobamms:


Interested in sales by telling him to move on when the response he got was direct? Should he then give up because of that words when it's not the first time domainers are being tagged domain[cyber] squatters by someone(end user) that is not knowledgeable about domaining?

Like you know the domain in question hence your response. Rather than forming boss, quote him with your own opinion and not mine.

1.how do you know the person is not knowledgeable about domaining?

2.how do you the newbie is not a domain squatter?

If someone reaches out and complains of being called a domain squatter or that his price was too high, the 1st question i will ask is what is the name and what price did you quote?

I dont assume the enduser is not knowledgeable about domain or that the enduser is stingy and doesnt want to spend on domains.


But in this thread, Men of timber and caliber, will advice the person to move on, some will even suggest that they increase the price more WITHOUT knowing the domain in question or the price that was quoted.

I rest my case

frank417:

I Knew what it meant before replying him bro. And I still tell you, some of them see domain squatting as what I explained to him above. A little experience with some end users will teach one this. Try asking an enduser why he priced your geo domain name $2(mock price) and you will hear reason.

My issue is Why the assumption?

Your experience with some end users doesn't translate to mean everyone will have same experience.

You don't know the name he was selling, you don't know type of name, you assumed it was Geo or what it was based on your experience but forgot that there is a possibility that it can be something else. With the answer you gave, he and other newbie might think that any enduser who accuses them of domain squatting is not interested in their domain not knowing that it could be something more serious

I see same pattern in appraisal, someone asks a question as to price of domain without stating name of domain, category and you see Seers telling them what to do without asking basic question that will lead to an informed decision.

Well, the thread has established sales is much more important, so what do I know

Mikebio:
Hello bosses I'm a newbie that have gone through the pages so I deiceded to give it a try ND I got my first reply today what do u guyz think the end user meant by domain squatting

Type Domain squatting in google, read then come back here to ask questions if it isnt clear to you.

frank417:

His mind tells him that you’re hoarding the domain name and trying to get people to pay more for it. He is irritated and doesn’t understand you are a domain investor. Just forget this one brother.

Wow, you don't mean it

Ayobamms:


Move on! He'd shown you he's not interested.

Are you serious?

You are suppose to tell him what domain squatting is or demand for the name to determine whether its really domain squatting

He needs to be guided before he jams an enduser who has time and money on his hands.

your responses shows you are only interested in sales.


As for Reality11, You can domain squat on a non trademarked name.

akeensbussy:


i am interested in those ebooks....

Check my signature

For those asking for apprasial, know this

There is detailed analysis/search & there is top of the head.

Top of my head is looking at the name & running it through my head against some checklist like word placement, length, extension, meaning & how the name sounds.

Based on this I can pass or fail a name.

Detailed search is to see if the keyword is selling, check past sales, in what position did the keyword sell, as first or last word, comparable domains sold, no of TLD registered in, Wayback records, Dates of previous registration.

A detailed search can pass a previously failed appraisal based on top of the head & vice versa


So you see apprasial is work, someone sent me close to 40names to appraise on whatsapp! Even 5 is work

Just have this at the back of your mind when asking for apprasial. Its not a light switch you flip or crystal ball you gaze into. Na work

Ayobamms:


There's no evil in trying to register yourself and submit since you've done your due diligence.

If SH doesn't approve it, you can list it on afternic and others. More so, check for trademark.

In addition, most companies using country TLD eg co.uk, .de, etc dont use .com

Do your due diligence very well especially if that company does not have a global presence.

Why will a company servicing germans only have a .com? .de will be enough


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ElonMosque:


Hmm. I have gotten the blueprint to brandable success. I'll first reg the domain then ask you for approval, then if you don't like it, I'll drop the domain and get a refund

You got it wrong, You will burn out that way. Find a trusted mentor & share such names before you register.

meetme01:


Sometimes all these questions does not follow when it comes to brandable. The end user knows what he wants and decides to pick his preference.

Are you serious? ok o

End user determines it all at the end, doesnt meam there are no guidelines to follow

SGRACE1:
Goodam bosses and fellow newbies...please I want to know if I can push a domain that is less than 60 days from Porkborn to Dan....answer needed urgently please. Thanks and happy Sunday to us.

Did you start from page 1?

Push is done within same registrar, Porkbun to Porkbun, Godaddy to Godaddy

Transfer is done between registrar, Porkbun to Godaddy, Namesilo to Dynadot

If a domain is less than 60days, you are left with the option of push, If and only if the buyer is willing to accept a push(that means he has to go register an account where the domain is domiciled else you wait)

If he is willing to accept a push, then you can push to the marketplace account with that registrar(the marketplace will instruct you to do so)

beckplanet:

I already dropped alot of the tips in my brandable guide that all points to that, but the issue is that most people tend to skip the basics and want to jump to short cuts, i equally dropped alot of keywords in same guide here all free of charge but i noticed alot of people ain't reading anything at all nor willing to research and do their homework, having the right knowledge is all you need to figure out what good names to search for, even in my recent post I explicitly explained that I try to keep names short as possible, meaning for Brandable Names search all you need to do is apply those basic keywords i and many other persons have dropped here in the expireddomains filter and simply reduce the maximum word to what you fill is short number/amount of words needed to search for which in my opinion is between 8-12 letters and again i explained in my research posts and even in the old posts that for 2 keywords i don't let them exceed 12 characters which again translate to Applying keywords of your choices (from all the brandable keywords dropped in this thread, again by me and so many others) in the Ed filter and not letting it exceed 12 characters as the max number of words needed in a particular search. That's all you need to do, there's no magic in it and no special Instagram filters needed to apply in it to guarantee a treasure island of good names, once you do this basics you still need to search and search and search for hours to find the names you feel are Ok, again brandable name is all about instinct and your feelings, what looks right for Mr A might be bang average or absolute crap in Mr B's opinion "Hence it is Subjective", no good names are in anywhere waiting for you to just press some buttons to unlock, it's all hardwork and Good knowledge and if you miss the good knowledge part, even if you're given aftermarket names at free of charge to choose from, you won't still figure out what is good fit because you Lack the knowledge. Again people are not ready to read in between the lines at all and ain't ready to do some research. Even after so much explanations and guides.

Peace

Your second line of your last post clearly stated all your names are from ED. second line o


Someone quoted the whole post and asked if your names were from ED or Handreg


Even with optimized search parameters on ED, you will still spend hours going through name, just that with the optimized settings you will eliminate bad names and streamline your result. There must be constant reading, exploring and tweaking.

The last $900 sale I posted was a result of the tweak I did.

FYI using keyword filter can be limiting but its a good place to start, you can always save that setting and also another one without keywords.

Someone posted Swifthomedelivery, Iwould never have seen such name because my parameter would have filtered it out. so have different saved searches with different parameters BUT you must be focused, not jumping from one strategy to another. Dont have too many saved patterns at a time because it can be overwhelming. Save the ones you know you can comfortably search through, after a while you tweak and make adjustment, then continue