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[quote author=tpia. link=topic=294031.msg4160648#msg4160648 date=1247159035]how can kids be kept out of gangs?

The victim was an ex(?) gang member who was trying to go straight, according to his mother. The article in the OP shows him posing with a knife.

The girl sounds like she's descended from ritual killers because her modus operandi was so slick and cold blooded.

wouldnt be surprised if its not her first time of luring someone.

People need Jesus in their lives for real!!! [/quote]Jesus? He's too embarrassed at the manner which this world has turned into. Please don't let's turn this into a religious closet

Nonsense!

Dr Kitaun:
abeg make we talk about better player jare . . .

dude is now on 65k Pounds, must be the highlight of his career

au revoir !

What player do we talk about? Mikel? Aiyegbeni? Yobo? Odemwinge? Who bring one up and let's dissect.

candylips:
why should he live when he gets £80,000 per week there.

I think a good career is much more important for him to establish right now. He may be a lethal striker in Nigeria but definitely they don't know that at his club or he's simply being ignored. Maybe now that Owen is gone they will want to utilize him more. But the fact still remains that if you're not in the first tier of a league you're most likely not seen. Even when he was in the Premier league not many club eyed him, Arsenal I think did but later dropped him off their cart. The best for his career right now is to play consistently where people will put tabs on his performance and you'll see him blazing goals. When you've not established a better career, you don't start talking money. He's still achieving in my opinion and is yet to achieve a lot despite his deadly potential. Besides I didn't know he was earning £80,000. I thought it just increased to £65,000. For now he has to be present in a club where his talents will be maximized.

bluespice:
calling one beautiful without seeing a picture can be excused but sexy?
uhmmmm

either way, do as u please my dearest, im more than certain u will be up to par

i doubt they'll get back together
and they just might far away from the hands of the law and the stalking eyes of the paparazzi

Don't worry I have the right sense of judgment that you're very sexy. Beauty they say is in the eyes of the beholder but it's also embedded in the thoughts and imagination of an admirer. I know I will be up to par, ain't scared about none of that I just want to surprise you with the most perfect romantic gift. Can I moonwalk you to the moon? Can I have you have a suntan in the morning sun? I just might ask God to send some morning sun your way tomorrow morning, what is you thinking now?

As for Rihanna, I don't know if they'd come back together, I still don't believe that Jay Z meddled into that affair, seems to me like he ridiculed himself if they ever get back together. Sorry I came late, had to get up for the morning and get the day started but sure it was nice starting it off with you earlier.

bluespice:
ooh sunset's better
holds promises of fantasies fulfiled

Aaarrrrgggh!!! I'm trying to squeeze out the romantic part but it ain't coming out. Is sunset too late? Only then can I be able to tap from its wealth of romance. I expended the last drops of romance I had in me on a girl last night and guess what? She turned me down and told me I didn't do enough. Goshhh! my ego got really crushed. May I be lucky you with your sexy beauty?

bluespice:
lol he isnt the model type for young men his age tho

I still see it as one of those belligerence exhibited by teens. He couldn't control his anger but Lord knew how Rihanna talked to him about the text message _{I wasn't there} Do you think they can get back together especially when the court has ruled that he'd not be within 100 yards close to her and 10 yards in public functions? I think the judge has broken that relationship already even though Rihanna tried to talk with judge to limit it. On a different note, I think 50 Cent and Lil Wayne are very romantic.

bluespice:
oh u know me so well,
make ur choice dearest

Your readiness is intimidatingly flipping my choices better yet I don't want to hit you like a tsunami rather I want to be as warm and tender on you as the sunset or is the sunrise better?

luvbooks:
No I wasnt!
Ok, truth is, I've read and seen so many sexist threads on NL, where the woman is always to blame for one thing or the other. And in this case no one seemed to remember who actually killed the guy.
So maybe I did get a bit carried away. Lol.

Take it easy on them. The young shall grow. But let's not forget that[b] men within that age group have their own skoin- skoin as well[/b]. Ever heard of gang rape? It's horrible.

Please, don't remind me of Chris Brown

bluespice:
if u will do what i asked on the other thread,
il yell ur chants from the mountain tops

I asked how you wanted it and no response came through. Tell me oooooooooooo

bluespice:
cos ur always at the fore front banner carrying when anyone in so much as praises the nigerian man or woman
its funny

Hahaha. Can you help me with flying of the banner? If you can't, can you oust my pride for us Nigerians?

bluespice:
now that serial bit got my chest heaving in anticipation

How do you want it momma? Convivial or hair-raising? Make a choice and don't dare say I should pick any that suites me. Show me the target and I'll shoot trust me I won't miss the target if I do must have been you blew me away with your charm.

bluespice:
im actually 'laughing out loud'

Me know but why is you laughing out loud?

bluespice:
lol

My "everblue" spice why is you "lot of laughing?"

bluespice:
oh such a queenly treatment must not pass one so deserving as her by
for what are the vestments of a queen? treachery, loyalty and a taste for blood
all this of course for the greater good of her kingdom and most importantly, her husband-the king

stalk me?
be still me heart!
dearest, even before u were aware of urself, u have been in my view,
now would u like the up the tempo of this game and come boldly after me?hey! easy on the lil kids
they might be young but a handful of them are quite wisened beyond their years

i said that because the poster before me said the victim n his family were suffering, how can a dead person feel pain?

A dead person feels pain because some believe ghosts cry hahahahaa

I have been in your view as what? A potential? A suspected serial k****r? Hey don't fret at that yo. Want me to come after you? Ok, I'm chasing couple Benjamins now when I'm done ya better be ready cuz it's going to be a scary one for ya.

sistawoman:
@gen2genius,

I need you to go back and re-read my posts.

-I said African men but narrowed it to my 9ja brothers because that is whom I have the most contact with and this is a 9ja site.
-I also said that chickenheads fall for the "I love you" and that the sistas I roll with are not chickenheads and dont fall for it.
-I additionally said that because they dont fall for it, and because of the underlying preconceived notion that AFRICAN MEN are shady and deceitful that this further perpetuates this myth.

Are you only interested in ideas and thoughts that stroke your pride? Are you interested in things that make you think or grow?

My reason for createing this thread was that thru healthily dialogue I am hoping to improve the r/s between AFRICAN MEN and American women. And more specificly for 9ja men and American women. Secondarily to improve the r/s between 9ja women and American women. Only thru my growth, understanding and laying all myths on the table and having them debunked in a healthily manner can I obtain knowledge and one person at a time tear down the wall between my brothas and sistas here and there.

If you would rather we go on hating each other for no valid reason then I don’t/wont ever share your viewpoints. I am all about growth and refuse to stand frozen because of lies, innuendoes and misconceptions.

I am married to a wonderful, romantic, intelligent, strong Nigerian Man and I love him with ever molecule of my mind, body and soul. I am just hoping to prove that he is not the only 9ja man out there like that.

Blow the horn louder please

bluespice:
the victim is almost one yr dead

What are you interjecting? It's not how long it's been but the motive behind such cold and stupefied attack -- how in devil's name could anyone have done that and claim they love some wacko? I still say girls from their 13 - 20 are brainless and imbecilic to be in any relationship, casual or serious. They are all so immature and can't distinct their feelings. They don't know when to stop and when to press on , they don't know right from wrong either. They are likened to the Biblical sucklings.

bluespice:
oh lord!
quit teasing me with a good time

now as to ur being on the loose,
but i do!
i wanna know hat will happen when ur on the loose
infact i wanna witness it first hand, so can i continue tugging at ur shackles?

Tease you Well doesn't she deserve such a nicely and a queenly treatment? If she dies slow she will regret every minute of her life since she was born  

As for perturbing my chains, ever seen a bulldog chase a trespasser? You never know I just might be stalking you, ya like that? Hold up I'm just warming up not on my shine just yet

bluespice:
i still maintain my stand
she's a heartless bitch and like the seeker said., should be bitch slapped with three life sentences

hate to imagine how the poor mother's feeling rite now
especially after finding out the love of her young son's life was instrumental in his death


the seeker, ofcourse i know, was simply yanking ur chains

They all should be slapped with the sentence but why am I feeling that they girl should be subject to a slower death sentence? If I were the jury, I'd make sure she gets a death sentence howbeit, slowly dished out --- cut her index, her middle finger, cut her leg, her arm, dip a hot rod through her palm _{did anyone say abuse of human rights?}

Hey sweetie, you don't wanna pull my chains ya don't know what will happen if I'm on the loose

bluespice:
hey!
quit riding my coat tails!  

that was meant for elrazur

If you mean the apology, yes I knew it was meant for ElRazur but thank you graciously for the apology to him   _{you never said anything to make me demand an apology from you}

gen2genius:
Sistawoman, only a gullible dimwit would not see the duplicity of what you claim to be the motive for starting this topic. And sadly, your gimmick seems to working on some. You created the topic ostensibly to correct an anomaly that is causing "so much wahala" betwen Nigerian men and American women but a sensible person would want to know, how much wahala does this REALLY cause? Let's ask ourselves, (1) How many African immigrants are in America? (2) Of these immigrants, how many are Nigerians? (3) Of these Nigerians, how many are males? (4) Of these males, how many prefer to date Americans (5) Of those who date Americans, how many have this problem? or Is it ALL?

If we break it down this way, we'll see how much this issue is being blown out of proportion for whatever reasons. What sistawoman would have us believe is that ONLY Nigerian men have this problem (and some of us are shamelessly affirming this) and that the small percentage of Nigerian men that have this problem is enough to cause so "much wahala" in America  . No one bothers to ask if she conducted any survey to come to this conclusion. And no one cares to ask her, what sort of "wahala" it causes - that American women are so retarded that when a man suddenly walks up to them to tell them he loves them, they spontaneously believe him and start a relationship and the relationship eventually ends in disaster"? See me see FABLE!

@ TheSeeker

You did generalise. You never mentioned "some" in the post I mentioned. And the 90 of every 100 instances you mentioned is mere speculation. Have you done any credible research on the issue? Must you exaggerate to show how "ignorant" and "egocentric" your fellow Nigerian men are? And I have my reasons for saying you seemed to be trying to win the approval of women with your comment. Apart from the things you said here, I've observed in most of your topics and posts that you're always looking for a way to impress the women by all means - even if it means going off-topic! There is an example here (in bold), and check your first post on the latest topic ElRazur started on a young girl plotting the death of her boyfriend. While everybody was talking about how evil her action was, you suddenly came up with the story of a man killing his wife and someone had to tell you that you were derailing the topic! Shortly before then, you had started a topic on domestic violence and all you were talking about was how women were being abused by their husbands and I had to remind you that both men and women could be abusive! Sure, this tendency to be servile could impress and attract some women  - but they are mostly needy, desperate and feckless women who always need a man's adulation and affirmations to boost their self-esteem. Not my type
adulation
That wasn't done impulsively; it was done DELIBERATELY because I still don't know what to call someone who believes and falls for every man/woman who comes up to them and say "I love you"

Funny, you would say just about anything to defend a spurious argument. Are you insinuating that girls/ladies are so dull in reasoning that they'd believe anything they see in Nollywood? And if that affects their interpretation of words and motives, whose fault is it - guys? 

And the reason I mentioned Americans not saying nasty things about their countrymen to Africans is because Sistawoman is not a Nigerian. And it's wrong to support her spurious claims by affirming that the majority of Nigerian men are ignoramuses. She's not trying to correct anything because the issue is not causing any problem anywhere (as you can see from my first analysis above). And if it does, it should be among the dummies. If my sister came to tell me that she fell for a man who met her on the streets and said he loved her, I'd take her to psychiatrist. So if you have the same problem with American women, don't blame Nigerian men, blame their idiocy!

First of all, my post may have struck you as supporting women but no I am saying it how it is in my own world. I didn't generalize and never have. I give my opinions as it is and they cannot be unfounded. To clear the air about the thread ElRazur started, I didn't talk about the man who killed his wife to support the women but I did because that was the closest example I could recall at that moment to display how people kill better yet claim to love their victim-- it ain't like I have to google up whatever I have to make as an example. (Did you later see an example where I mentioned that Steve McNair was killed by his 20-year old girlfriend?) Then he said that wasn't the topic but did you see all my posts after all? Did you see how I blamed the girl? Did you see where I defended ElRazur when Bluespice and FL Gators accused him and NL respectively of being sexist because of the topic he used at first? Did you see Bluespice make an apology to ElRazur after I made her realize he never sounded sexist but she termed it out on her own? I guess not. Did you see where I examined that girls under 21 years are baggage of emotional trauma? No I don't you think you did-- if those that fall in that group were to see that, what do you think they'd say about that? Name another post where you think I have supported women and absolutely off line with the topic.

In as much as I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, I still am of the belief that it should be done with all sincerity at least from your world it should strike you as being entirely sincere and not out to impress or gain applauds from anyone which is entirely out of my aim of making my comments. We both have different comprehension of what sistawoman is trying to say. I still don't see it as if she's saying they have caused a lot of problems in the States --- from my understanding she's saying that 9JA men relationship wise get disregarded and less respected because of how 9JA guys go on wooing girls with the saying "I love you" topping their lines. She also went ahead to say the American woman looks down - in terms of relationships - on a Nigerian woman because of the way they believe to have been  falling for guys at the ranting of "I love you" --  This I know might be very true or at the least to some considerable extent. For instance and not meaning to steer off the topic, Nigerians are seen as, if not fraudsters, a bad and very negative influence or a drug peddler(but are all Nigerians that way?)-- even if you have a very fine job and trustworthy personality they see you a very questionable figure as long as you're a holder of the green passport -- most don't want to know if you're clean, have a good job or whatever. Just as almost every American thinks an Arab is a threat to wherever he is and that's because of what Bush imbibed them to believe about Arabs and the chaos Arabs have perpetrated themselves has in no way helped people think otherwise. Information and word go through everywhere because Americans like every other westerners like to pass on information and keep abreast of current happenings.

I have cause to believe that you didn't understand some parts of my post here earlier. I said in one of my arguments that girls should be blamed for that trend because when you try expressing yourself the right manner as much as your feelings allow you, they still turn you down thinking you're a player who's out to f**k them and leave them at the earliest available excuse to puncture the relationship -- now guys have to follow suit and do what will impress them even if they know it won't convey their exact feelings but long as it sways the women who cares. Still I blame it hard on the women because when you fall for anything, then guys will employ that tactics in getting them. No I still am not blaming the men neither am I exaggerating at all. I'm just saying it as it is from my end. The poster probably isn't happy with the way 9JA men are turned down  because they are used to the way they talk to Nigerian girls when in fact they have true feelings and the American women misconstrue that for shady and deceitful assertions.

bluespice:
oh lord!
i guess i should have said in that post, the title could be sexist

i tender my most sincere apologies to elrazur if i have caused any inconvieniences

Thank you most graciously

bluespice:
the previous topic could be read in two ways
' all these evils perpetuated by a woman?
arent they supposed to be meek and gentle and the epitome of all things pure?
wow, wats the world turning to?'

and

'all of that was done by wait for it. . .  a woman!
aha! we always knew it, they are the worst things since we were forced without our consent to donate our ribs in creating them
down with women i say!'

do u see how it could be sexist?

You termed it to be sexist but I don't think that's how the poster meant it otherwise he won't have rephrased the topic.

FL Gators:
Calm down

The topic doesn't seem sexist to me. I don't know if ElRazur has been sexist if ever but this post isn't sexist.  It's pretty normal. ElRazur is seen more in the political forum

bluespice:
Nigerian society is sexist to the marrow
NL is merely a mirror image of a small part of the society,
that said it still doesnt serve as an explanation
ur right the title is sexist as are many threads on here
but in this case, the girl's act is both treacherous and callous why the blame is being laid albeit unfairly most times, entirely or almost at her feet

You're right. No one can dispute that

FL Gators:
TheSeeker, what's your old ID? You sound familiar

I never was here. Former NFL star Steve McNair was killed by his girlfriend(a 20-year old) in his sleep. He was sleeping and she shot him right there. This isn't any way related to love. It's absolutely criminality at the highest order. Girls between 16 and 20 years old are burden of emotional trauma in a relationship

FL Gators:
You make very good points. I can't excuse for her sha.

Who is DOLLA?

DOLLA was a 21 year old rap artiste. He was just arriving into stardom. He never even had an album but he sure has a hit "Who the f**k is that?" that he featured T-Pain in. He also had another hit "Let's make a toast". He was a very good, humble and laid back rapper. He was in California for his videos when he was shot in the head in broad day light in front of a mall. The guy who shot him was reportedly arrest at the airport with a gun in his waist and was believed to have flown in from ATL, Georgia to kill him -- some believe it was a paid hit.  A rumor which many believe to be true says he was killed over a girlfriend he must have snatched from another guy.

FL Gators:
I just realize, no one is blaming or hating the ex-boyfriend, even if he was the one that stabbed her boyfriend.

Nairaland is so sexist, you know.

No, I don't believe NL is sexist. People would have blamed the ex boyfriend more if he went to attack the boyfriend but the situation here is that she lured the guy into the trap. They both knew she was his weakness and they got him by that. She willingly volunteered to be the bait when the guy trusted her very much even within 6 weeks. No matter how much you try to blame the ex boyfriend you will always come back on the girl because she's the source. I still think it's a stupid act to kill someone over a girl or a guy. Do you know who DOLLA was?