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Kenyan28: 2 days to my interview date I got a text that I was required to have a medical report that said I was positive.I requested my host, who was working at the HealingSchool to take me to a VCT center for the test. I went, did a test that showed "negative". I can bet this is where my "negative" results were baked.

Kenya 28 accounts bears much semblance to the activities at the prayer line of one other joint in Lagos.
The drama of workers putting microphone at people's mouth dictating to them to say things like man of God help me, I am healed. After which, they go for test either at the Church's side lab or anyother clinic assigned by the Church.

Now, two group of victims are made: the faithful and faithless
The faithful will see any attempt to verify any negative results issued by the Church's designated clinics through a re-run at an independent clinic as an act of doubt in the Jesus of the manof god. These group often come down with very severe complications and by the time they are back at the hospital wards, what remains for them is only palliative. These buy the idea that any attempt to verify the healing is an act of faithlessness which could result in losing the miracle acquired.

The second group, the faithless in the eyes of the miracle superstars, are those who after the negative results will want to carry out series of objective tests which in most cases returns positive. And they quickly resort to their medications and personal prayers. They OUTLIVE the first category of victims. In the event that verifiable results confirm them negative, they are not afraid to do regular-interval tests

Is it not revealing from these accounts that top workers in Christembassy are party to all these fraudulent activities? And all these arrangements are properly doctored under the supervision of the miracle superstar

I know certainly that some of those top Pastors (partners with Rev Oyakhilome )at the healing school will have a rethink someday and renounce those things even at the expense of threats to their lives.

jared007: am not actually here to prove points or convince anyone to believe in pastor chris or God ...AM HERE TO LAUGH TO SCORN HATERS OF GOD AND PASTOR CHRIS WHO CAN'T SIMPLY MIND THEIR BUSINESS. U CAN'T STOP GODS WORK DON'T U UNDERSTAND??

Do you know that the Pastor that asked his members to eat grass also considers himself a Man of God?
The pastor will readily try to define who a man of God is and brandish the 'touch not my anointed' in the face of the outcry against his wickedness and his tendency to twist the Bible

The touch not my anointed is a gimmick used to put fear into people who will not only eat grass at his command but will be willing to go on shooting spree at his bidding, forgetting that Bible permits that False Teachers among the brethren to be exposed and avoided

Do you know that the Pastor that asked his members to eat grass also considers himself a Man of God?
The pastor will readily try to define who a man of God is and brandish the 'touch not my anointed' in the face of the outcry against their wickedness
The touch not my anointed is a gimmick used to put fear in the already captured who will not only eat grass at his command but will be willing to go on shooting spree at his bidding, forgetting that Bible permits False Teachers among the brethren to be exposed and avoided

@ Gombs, Mba Emeka you are really determined to preserve this dishonorable business of yours perhaps your cunning has brought you much gain. In all your responses, it is very clear you have been busy evading the questions about the credibility of your organization.

Let me make it clear to you that your present schedule here is beyond your capacity to handle. Nowhere had Sir John denied the occurrence of miracles in life, he had only brought to the fore what many already know that the healing ministry of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome as well as the lifestyle he has impacted into most of his followers left much to be desired when compared to the Biblical truths , the things you guys do at Christ Embassy is so manipulative

But don't over stress your hackers, lawyers, thugs, image sellers simply for fear of losing members. If you study your bible well False Teachers Will Always Have Adherents to preside over, I can guarantee you'll have new members just as the ones who are beginning to see you guys for who you are, are EXITING

Topgainer: Sir John, the Lord is your strength.

But I fear for your life, These ChristEmbassy operators may soon send ASSASSINS after you for EXPOSING their dubious activities. The beneficiaries of the inconsistencies in CE will do everything possible to keep the business afloat

I also fear for Madam Anita Oyakhilome should she go further in exposing the exploitation and deceit she was once part of.

1 John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have OVERCOME them: because GREATER is HE that is in YOU , than he that is in the world. 4:5 They are of the world: therefore they SPEAK of the world, and the world heareth them. 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of ERROR

I will continue to warn and pray for friends who are downcast following their recent discovery that CE is a hoax whose modus operandi is to ruin youths through teachings that emanate from the smart head of Bible twisters.
I have friends in this situation today only if they heard us years ago when we WARNED of the dangers of Believers LoveWorld

Sir John, the Lord is your strength.

But I fear for your life, These ChristEmbassy operators may soon send ASSASSINS after you for EXPOSING their dubious activities. The beneficiaries of the inconsistencies in CE will do everything possible to keep the business afloat

I also fear for Madam Anita Oyakhilome should she go further in exposing the exploitation and deceit she was once part of.

mbaemeka: Very very funny. Only if you knew or understood the name or the power invested in the name of Jesus. Clearly you don't like many others here.

The name Jesus works I am not contending that what I am contending and which many others are condemning is the penchant for some these pastors to complement where Jesus decides to stop or delay his answer with make believe for reasons best known to them. And there is substantial evidence that Pastor Chris among other things is involved in this

Topgainer: I carefully selected the words I used in the post you referred to just like the one I wrote up there about Oyakhilome.

T. B Jushua is gifted like I would say the same for these French Magician that entertain on Weekends. The difference is that he has found a way of integrating the name of Jesus into the act, which to me is most interesting.
As for teachings and tricks, he is as bad as Oyaks but less arrogant than Reverend Oyakhilome
And yes among the Nigerian GOs whose organizations and teachings look dubious, he appears distinguished by trying his best at a modest lifestyle not forgetting that he has avoided the gimmicks of extortion prevalent among these other GOs.

Take my advice Gombs and Pastor Mbaemeka leave Christembassy now stop trying to justify your continued stay there. You guys are better of discovering God by your personal study of the word than wasting your income on Rapsody

mbaemeka: How could you tell T.B was gifted? Do you agree with all his teachings? Let us start there.

I carefully selected the words I used in the post you referred to just like the one I wrote up there about Oyakhilome.

T. B Jushua is gifted like I would say the same for these French Magician that entertain on Weekends. The difference is that he has found a way of integrating the name of Jesus into the act, which to me is most interesting.
As for teachings and tricks, he is as bad as Oyaks but less arrogant than Reverend Oyakhilome
And yes among the Nigerian GOs whose organizations and teachings look dubious, he appears distinguished by trying his best at a modest lifestyle not forgetting that he has avoided the gimmicks of extortion prevalent among these other GOs.

Rev. Oyakhilome has some spiritual backings(influence) no doubt but he has time and again given the generality of Christians reasons to question the particular Jesus his claimed to know.


With the teachings he has been churning out, I am not convinced yet that there are no mix ups in his agenda/mission

Many of the people who devoted their time, energy and money in marketing the Ministry thinking it was impeccable end up disbelieving the existence of God when they realized that they have been hypnotized and that most of his teachings are not biblical or emanating from the holy spirit

I was touched by the write up, good work annyplenty
The area I'ld want you to look at carefully is the meanings of the elect, the phrase saved from the foundation, parable of the lost coin, lost sheep, the left us because they were not part of us. I guess you are familiar with the location of these in the Bible.
That somebody said he is a pastor, born- again doesn't make him one. Agents of Satan can start of seemingly genuine but it doesn't take long before they reveal who they were. In most cases, although they may be found to identify with the things of God they have never been the elect ab initio
Therefore, you cannot use them to estimate the dept of God's work of grace on his elect.
But like the foolish virgin some of the elect will miss rapture because of unpreparedness but will go through the tribulation.
There is more but search the scriptures in the light of the above
Again I also discovered that some persons even at the point of death are given the opportunity to repent which they grab before they give up the ghost. Such persons don't die at their sickbed without fulfilling that. The case with this group is that they may have missed the benefits of walking in dominion that salvation brings while alive but the ultimate aim of Salvation does not elude them. How would you explain that? That's where the true meaning of the elect and salvation comes in.
I don't have the full understanding of it, however, I believe that as the seals/books are opened more light will be thrown on it

Talknado sorcerers comes to mind.

"Oya I summon the spirit of that native doctor responsible for your troubles, manifest now, catch fire all over your body, who are you? what have you done to this lady? I paralyze you.
I summon the spirit of the step mother, what have you done to this lady ? Fire on that your leg. You are free "

The first time I went to Christ Embassy after they unleashed a female neighbour who was hell bent on dragging me to her church, I remember clearly that the activities inside the hall was so intolerable that I left the hall for outside where I managed some extra minutes before heading out of that place.

The whole activities that Sunday made mockery of Christianity. The funny message was read by a fat dude(pastor) looking more like a gay trying all he could to mimick Rev Oyakhilome. His message was a mere repetition of ' that guy Jesus can make you rich and I can't be poor because I know who I am '

Let me not bore anybody with the key Characters that are the officials of that branch, the anointed(angel voiced) choir leader is a renowned chronic unrepentant fornicator who has rebuffed several appeals to take things easy

The Bishop's style of reply



"At Kingdom heritageschoolswe teach childrenthe basics of covenantedsuccess, prosperityand we raise world champions.If the British populacecannotafford the costsof sendingtheir wards to our school,thereis always somecheaperalternativesoutthere
we are notforcing our visionon anybody. Our covenantedmembersin the UK will patronize our schools.As for the witch saga I owe nobody any apology,Kings don't apologize. The matter is in Court and we shall win the case"

Cy4praise: He will always remain my mentor

Winners Group of Chapels and Christ Embassy are no-go-churches for me

The Bishop's style of reply

"At Kingdom heritage schools we teach children the basics of covenanted success, prosperity and we raise world champions. If the British populace cannot afford the costs of sending their wards to our school, there is always some cheaper alternatives out there
we are not forcing our vision on anybody. Our covenanted members in the UK will patronize our schools. As for the witch saga I owe nobody any apology, Kings don't apologize. The matter is in Court and we shall win the case"

According to Rev Chris, once you are a born again you can still indulge in all sorts and God can look the other way because you are a baby Christian. In otherwords, there is a god to always overlook your continued indulgence provided you phone him to apologize after each act.
My question has always been
how can I possibly be a committed Christian in such a gathering? Among people who think that way, so much permissive-ness

www.nairaland.com/1846893/received-power-god-solve-all
Jesus said 'all power in heaven and on earth have been given to me'. He had said earlier to his true followers that in the world you will have troubles but be of good cheer, 'I have overcome the world'. He never denied his ability to solve all problems facing humans nevertheless he said my yolk is easy and my burden light. The bible makes it clear that true Rest is prepared for God's faithful Children and it is beyond this present life on earth.
For this reason every bride of Christ says Come quickly Lord
But here we have Prophets who come with powers from god to make everything alright for anybody who will call them Daddy and allow them to be fathers over his lives. Repentance is never an issue because it doesn't appear to be a demand by the gods that gave powers to these generation of prophets
What's the actual mission of these Prophets?

The easiest way to know false prophets and teachers is to add up the words they speak. There are usually so much inconsistencies with their stance which invariably reveals their motive - extracting money from the ignorant

Claims of solving all life questions in the life of others by any human is in itself fraudulent and inconsistent with the Bible. The end of troubles is the end of the world
This is where many Christians get it wrong and become easy prey in the hands of fraudulent preachers
A Bishop who claimed he was sent by God to make people rich had asked the thousands at his Centre to give what they have never given before in other to get his blessings of financial increase and success. In some climes such money doubling claims and extortions will have to be scrutinized

www.nairaland.com/1479564/avoid-these-nigerian-ghanian-pastors
Prophecy and Solutions

edogho: laugh wan kill me. thank mi stars i was born smart.

It sounds funny, but it is happening all over the place. And many have fallen the mugus

What I see in it is Pastors not living what they preach.
Many times they quote fear not, yet they fear the most.
They say trust in the Lord with all your heart, yet they seek security through various means.

They say give all you have to the Lord and worry not about tomorrow yet their bank account savings and investments shows they feared tomorrow most
They spent huge amounts of money(offerings) to secure the services of Personal Security details.Where is that supported in the Bible

Okotie's Bodyguards looked so mean and could scare the demons off the faint-hearted

The Madam Visitor arrives home
and informs her husband that that small crash on his car was an assassination attempt. And she tries to convince her husband to go and see the prophet. Darling, I saw plenty miracles, the man is powerful that is why he is regular at Aso Rock and all the Governors consult him.
Mr. Visitor(Husband): But how do you know the President and Governors consult him
Madam Visitor: He said so, that he just arrived from Abuja yesterday
Mr. Visitor: Okay, I will go to see the Pastor but I don't like this at all

Prophet: Oga your car is fine, is it 2014model
Mr. Visitor: Ignores the Prophet but quickly remarks "my wife said you wanted to see me"
Prophet: You see, Mr. Man, I am a genuine man of God. I give Prophecy and Solutions, I told your wife that I saw her husband involved in an accident and I needed to discuss the solution with you man to man. I am here to help but if you don't want you can go and die
Mr. Visitor: Sir, what is the Solution

Prophet[to cut the long story] : You will have to give this your car to me or anyother Pastor of your choice. Do not give your car to any Prophet who has not been tested

Yet another trick

Prophet: Yesterday I was with the President, I went to pray for him. I am just coming back from Abuja. Day before yesterday, I was in the house of the Senate President, today again some governors want to see me.
I give you 7days, you will stand before the President. Say your Amen very loud, I am not talking to everybody, the person I am talking to should carry 7 thousand run to the altar, drop it there.
Madam, yes, you that is looking at me don't you have 7thousand. Stand up, some people want to kill you and your husband, and I am saying people should drop money at the altar and you are sitting down there
Madam Visitor : Yesterday, as my Husband was coming back from work a Keke rammed into his car.
Prophet: thatz what am saying, Accident. As I look at you, I see accident around you. Tell your husband to see me tomorrow meanwhile go and drop 7 thousand at the altar.

Allow me to Father you and your life will never remain the same. In this commission, miracle is like drinking water

Gudiza:
I'm familiar with that phrase & very well know this man from his cable channel ONLY 'cos my folks wouldn't just not let one rest with TV.
To them I always say, "safe journey" as that's what it really is. In no time they'll be back to hop onto another MOG like an addiction. I have seen it all. SMGDH

These days, It is not anybody that comes dressed in suit saying God bless you, Jesus is Lord and My name is Pastor that is truely pastor

I wonder oh. I opened a very insightful thread that could help the millions of gullible Nigerians to avoid regrets and allow some others share their expriences in the hands of these cunning Prophets. I thought it should be a fp material

www.nairaland.com/1479564/avoid-these-nigerian-ghanian-pastors

A Nigerian Prophet had made a young lady vomit a key supposed to have been used to lock her in the Spirit world. The reason for her not having a good job, husband, etc.
Members of the Church were perplexed by the feat as the looked in amazement. Suddenly, the prophet ordered everybody to submit all the cash in his/her possession. He also asked those that don't have to bring theirs before 12 noon the next day. According to him, the Lord whose power they've witnessed will provide all of the sowers with a Car within one week capping it with the statement 'If I be a man of God'
Months has passed 99.9% of the artisans and market women who make up the congregation are yet to see the Lord's promised cars. Meanwhile, the prophetic Prophet has been blessed with 2 assorted 2013 model cars

Consider this carefully and avoid these conmen

Chuks84: hmm...ogini kwa? nna u miss road o..

Are you a politician or a prophetic herbalist 'over' her life?
I am not mincing words here, those two have not helped her, she could have been better in her traditional role as an actress
I chozie details I me ka m mata, maka o buro ihe nile ka m ga e kwu ebe a.

Her association with politicians brought her some extra millions in earning and her association with new world Prophets introduced hybrid Christianity into her life. She could have been better without those associations regardless of whatever apparent gain they've brought her, they also destroy irredeemably leaving trails of unfulfilment in the midst of plenty
Someone may ask the meaning of hybrid Christianity, It is a combination of words of God and acts of Satan in ministrations practiced by Prophetic Herbalists

He is gifted, operates at higher spiritual callings than his contemporaries and lives modestly compared with many GOs
Colombia will definitely have enduring memory of the current that flows when the man calls the mighty name of Jesus

Don't blame Iheanacho senior too much.

He was being hypnotized by a supposed man of God, Talkand do prophets, Charlatans with big golden chains around the neck and another ring on the 3rd right finger. Owerri is fast becoming a city of the mugus and magas, a safe home for Magicians and tricksters
A good decision from the lad, they wanted to destroy his future