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How do one identify a Spell caster on the Altar? Having identified that Spell casting has a direct association with the occult, that some Pastors, Prophets and Bishops are indeed practicing different brands of black arts. It is important, to throw light on the mode of operation of these lying crooks who have the Bible on one hand and their prisoners on the other. Prisoners in the sense that these brethren whom Christ died for have allowed themselves to be under the whims of a man who wants their income submitted to him while promising them Heaven on earth. As a matter of fact the term Heaven on earth is not in the teachings of Christ. Jesus taught that Heaven has no Substitute. No Mansion, City, Temple, Chapel regardless of how majestic or glorious it appears will have a bearing of Heaven on Earth and speaking emphatically, no life lived by any on planet earth can fit the Bible description of how heaven will look like. The following briefly describes the Spell casting Church Operators 1. They are the most arrogant personalities 2. They rule their prisoners with Iron fist while their immediate family are the most pampered 3. They are inadvertently addressed as Lord, feared and venerated by their workers 4. They are willing to dominate every bit of their followers life when it is within their reach. All choices in a grown up's life must pass through them. You dare not marry or chose to marry somebody who had shown signs he/she may not like the association with the Pastor 5. All the sermons revolves around money, Seed time and Harvest time, sow seed and become rich, bless the Bishop as you have never done before and become a millionaire like your Pastor 6. Most of the domineering sermons and speeches are best related through intimidating financial acquisitions which may not be for the overall service. For instance, purchasing a Rolls-Royce Phantom. 7. Boasting about his abilities and love for titles 8. Threatening workers with a curse and attributing misfortunes experienced by some workers as the evidence of his powers to punish erring workers. If God punishes that way no human may remain on earth not even the Spell Casters 9. Usually have many who have been trained on how to talk people into parting with their money and the trained are covenanted to make part returns of earnings to the Trainer. 10. People are coerced to give up their earnings for the work of God which had now included a fleet of Bentley and Maybach 11. Most times the environment are neglected, the host community and roads leading to the Temple are ingnored except when the Government intervenes 12. Tendency to assume all cries for help are false. In other words, he does not take risk with giving out but commands his followers to risk sowing seed to his altar to experience financial turn around |
seedsower:Chris Okafor Elijah of our time When will Christians realize that God does not need an Elijah to relate with his children at this time. It is now the time of Satan to masquerade as Elijah through his servants whom he has enabled through some arts and performances. You begin to hear all unchristlike statements like 'every enemy in my office even if he is my MD should die' of course by fire or be consumed by thunder. Fire prayer in Jesus Name, that is a subtle mockery of the name Jesus and what it stands for You too can be the Elijah of your time if you are willing to dedicate your time to the study of those arts and acts displayed by your Elijah, you may also need a wizard's ring, necklace and some portions buried under your skin. Then you can act and make money |
reedmund:You just quoted a Scripture out of context. There is no point asking you to explain what transpired in the passage you quoted. Are you implying by quoting that passage that Satan is an authority over Angel Micheal I don't think you know the meaning of judgement. Fake pastors always extract scriptures out of context to serve their purpose and to keep eyes away from scrutinizing their anti-Christlike activities thereby giving them unrestricted numbers they are leading to Hell How can you test the spirit when you are not allowed to discuss the teachings, comparing it with the Lord's It is good you dream, it is part of the promise of Joel 2:28. Albeit, if your dream tells you something is good and the Bible tells you the fruits aren't good. Discard your dreams stick to the Word. dreams can be manipulated easily by the devil Pray for Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, his wife and his followers God bless you |
One dangerous mistake this generation makes concerning adaptations of some practices is the Miracle of Faith. Faith is a mystery that lives around us and by some circumstances we get things done just by believing it could be done. Therefore has the Bible described God as the author of Faith and a lover of men who exercise faith Now just because I cast a Spell on some one and it worked does not mean that I am working in the ways of Christ Just because I prayed before a 1000 feet molded Image of Christ and I got answers does not imply that God approves of that Just because a Prophet asked everybody to empty their pockets, sowing seed separately for expectations like a good husband, job, house, to be a millionaire, get promotion and it worked for some persons does not mean that Jesus promoted that sowing seeds are pre requisites for a good husband, job e.t.c. Some other persons sowed no seed and still got what they desired out of life Just that a Herbalist get around his difficulties by invoking the Spirits of his ancestors does not mean that his ancestors are the only and genuine way to God Legalism is not of Christ. The teachings of Christ and what he lived for are clearly spelt out in Gospels |
reedmund:Bro permit me to respond briefly to your assertions Your dreams can't be the proof to authenticate a man of god. Dreams are subjective and easily manipulated by Satan. It could be influenced by your day to day experience. The only way approved by God for testing every Spirit whether he be angel or claims to be Jesus himself is by cross matching the message he churns out against the Teachings of Christ. Your vision of Pastor Chris wearing white again proves little. Although, White signifies purity, It could be won by any including the red devil. Revelation chapter 6:2 A white horse, a rider with a crown, had a bow but lacked the substance (arrow) he went out conquering even without arrows(the true word of God). That is a succinct description of some Pastors who conquer people for Satan Another thing I want to point out about White is that it has regular use among the Marine Spirits and their worshippers. Night operations are carried out either wearing White gown or completely naked, barefooted "All Pastors are approved by God". Let me add to it that the activities of Satan on earth is also approved and also in God's design. Satan's limitations are where God's dissapproval is stationed. Therefore, a fake preacher or Prophet has a place in God's plan for the end time Read through Revelations and see approvals of all kinds Mastur.bat.ion thank God you said it was revealed to you as sin. Do you know that a lot of persons are actually praying that God should deliver them from that evil habit that is eating deep into their life and time. I don't think Pastor Chris agrees with you on the subject of infallibility. While addressing his fans on a Communion Service concerning his divorce , he said he is a man of God, hand picked by God and above sin. That attracted very wide criticisms because all the while he was polishing his ego he was degrading Anita who before now we were told was a Woman of God. Projected as anointed and a co- author of Rapsody of R. |
“An influential prophet in PFN once threatened to curse some young men who had met him to discuss some issues that they did not find comfortable within the Church. He had actually let them into some secrets of his ministry which were damning, the young men ( I happen to know some of them personally) decided to leave the Church for another Ministry. The PFN Prophet, a former state secretary and a Zonal Exco sent them message that they can’t leave his Church without serious repercussion and they must ensure that no third party heard about the secrets behind his ministry. They called a bluff of his threats and relayed some of their experiences in that ministry to people who are already up to date with the activities of that ministry as rumour spreads. Soon after, the spell took effect, solitary white pigeon started perching at odd hours at their homes afterwards it was deaths. One of them is surviving as I type this and he had said dead or alive he is not going back to that Church years after losing his friends to accident independently he is still alive, married with children. One of them, his death was so painful to me he died in a fatal accident, nobody knew till several months after his death not even his parents were aware. Till this moment the Prophet is alive with his thriving money making venture and his strangling demands of seeds that even his staunch followers will have to borrow to pay in order not to incur the wrath of this Almighty man of God. He had so held them in captivity that you dare not visit another church without his permission, you dare not gather in groups to discuss his teachings that are not in conformity with the scriptures, you dare not talk about his open secret second wife and his escapades with the choir girls. And as warning he is god’s anointed and requests that his prisoners touch not the anointed of god Some had left and had survived his onslaught, some others weren’t so lucky. Often times, he performs miracles which always centers around church members reporting that the enemy they had at the office died mysteriously. Some others give testimonies of financial breakthrough after the Prophet laid his hands on their contract proposals and the rests in the majority are heavy seed sowing men and women devoid of knowledge, who have been hoping that the seeds will be doubled one day by the money doubling god and these category borrow to sow seed, sow every money you have, became a norm.” Although, this prophet does not call his SPELLS what it clearly is, he calls it a Curse to sound biblical not necessarily following the teachings of Christ. In fairness to them, the Old testament had curses spelt out and had practices similar to Spell castings that were jettisoned through the fulfillment of the righteous requirements of the law by Christ. [b] In other words, God had left those conditions and its procedural requirement, there is no more room for Moses of our time and Elijah of our time for the Gentile Churches. All that is required is faith in Christ and the his teachings, there is no need for any human mediator between servants or children or brothers in Christ, all have access to God through Christ. There is no selected mouthpiece through which God issues blessings and curses. Through our faith in the finished work of Christ we all share of his riches and blessings, we may also suffer for his sake. That is not to say that the New Testament church had no leaders but the role of leaders now is misconstrued and a far depature from what it used to be then. There was no place for Peter not to take correction from Paul or threaten Paul with curses for voicing out his views, there was no place for Paul to position in his estate and be demanding different nomenclatures of seeds by strong coercion from Christians. There were no place for any of Jesus disciples to constitute themselves as Harbingers of laying anointed hands for new converts who could afford the seed costs, to go and become financial gurus. [/b] Hands were laid for the converts to receive the holy spirit or for healings. Persons who were rich without coercion contributed to spread of the gospel, the contributions were used strictly for that purpose and to ensure that both the preacher and the listener shared in all good things they could afford as a family Finally, be it spell; be it curses, God is not in the business of distributing curses, however, a person who has refused to key into the atonement made by Christ will have the curses in the law, that through the disobedience of one man, death came and also through one man’s obedience life came that the righteous requirement of the law may be fulfilled in those who believed. Matthew 5:38-48 does not recognize the curses and spell as we have it today coming from some Christian leaders. The book of Hebrews and Romans dealt exclusively with the place of a mediator and curses after Christ Sacrifice |
In times past, when traditional religion held sway the dread of deities is the beginning of wisdom for villagers, and Priests and Priestess had an overbearing control over their subjects through unleashing powerful spells on anybody who dares to reject their evil demands. A notorious priest can channel all his experience in the occult to attacking a deserter to sound as a warning to all the villagers. At the advent of Christianity which at the time still valued the golden virtue of submitting to the will of God in comparison with today’s Christian teachings that God must give in to all our desires except He is no God, there had been scenarios where a Priest demanded that a baby be sacrificed to avert impending poor crop yield in a farming season and the early Christian converts disagreed. The Priest felt slighted, proceeded with threats and cursing; instigated the elders and youths to bring to the notice of the small Christian group that no one opposed the counsel of the deity vis a viz his anointed servants and went scotch free. In order, to make good the warnings the Priest went ahead to invoke the full weight of the spell on the group. There were deaths, misfortunes, evil stench and in some cases physical assaults by the Priest’s ‘mopol ’ on the Christian group. Lord, when did it become a crime to reject evil, extortion and servitude under heavy yokes, when did it become a death sentence to state the truth to the Priest of a Shrine, that a seed of a baby to the altar is against the teachings of our Lord and Master Jesus. A detailed labour in the place of prayers and the faith of the small Christian group annuls the SPELL. Most times the spells will fail to work from the onset because the attention of the Almighty had been drawn to make a name for himself and not because of the labour in the place of prayers Is it not amazing that the days of casting spell is back and wide spread among Christian leaders who are confused as to whether to practice Judiasm or Christianity. Even today Jews had left most of those practices which draws some parallels with the Gordian religion. Why must some of our Bishops feel comfortable with these practices, threatening to undo anybody who winks at their unchristlike practices |
Anas09:The harm these false teachings had done to Christianity is more than I had thought. Every born-again Christian is a servant of God, Jesus went further to call them friends in St. Johns gospel We no longer need a human mediator to access God after Jesus Mr Man, there is a difference between a curse and a spell. Most of the things you wrote up are referring to spell which is synonymous with occult masters Jesus didn't teach his servants to go about looking for who to curse. He didn't say two or three should hold hands to curse people. The keys of heaven and earth in Matth is about the ability of God's Kingdom/Gospel to spread unhindered to any terrain. It has nothing to do with spreading of curses and keys of hell to people Your kind instead of spreading the news of God's salvation is busy looking for persons to be used to demonstrate your SPELL casting ability. That's mixing the message of Salvation with the Occult |
Ruggedbaba:All the good things you wrote there are not the yardstick for measuring a true servant of God. Satan can do these things and much more. A time is coming when Satan will be permitted to gather millions of followers to himself through the signs and wonders such that he could nearly deceive the elect Study Revelations and fall no victim to deception There are more important things besides signs and wonders that determines who a true servant of God is |
KDK: babaearly:No man is god except that some pastors had turned themselves into one in otherwords gathering unto themselves men who worship them. A god means literally something that is worshipped and gathers reverence to himself. Synonymous in this sense with an Idol. The quotation of Ps 82:6 for Pastors who see themselves as god is quoted and used out of context. Ye are gods in the original translation is written as Ye are judges (elohim). In the traditional Jewish setting specially wise elders are seen as elohim, they sit in the congregation to decide cases and bring wise counsel to bear in matters concerning the people. The discussion of psalm 82 hinges on that Again being partakers of divine nature does not make any man god or idol. The Bible went further to state that It has not yet been revealed what we shall be but at His appearing we shall be like him. There is a time attached to this effect; the When One misconstruction of that passage is that the teachers and their congregation tend to deny the fact that they are humans with one heart, a skin that will age, a body that could be weakened by stress, health that could be challenged, they can thirst they can hunger, emotions that can run riot, So do these 'gods' when exposed to disease causing organisms fall sick, pray and seek medical help? Do these self appointed gods age? Some of the faith teachers will say sometimes others will be in total denial to polish their god status |
Dumexoga:You sound so hypnotized and seriously needs help. All I could see in you is a young fellow who has taken up the worship of man over God. So Oyedepo has now become a mediator between God and man. Oyedepo now carries blessings and distributes them as he wishes. That kind of teaching is as old as Judiasm, Christianity is what I practise it does not require a human mediator between God and man. This is clearly explained in the book of Hebrews. Your problem is that you don't study the bible and you don't ask questions My friend flee from IDOLATRY, flee from it I repeat this once again, my blessing is not with Oyedepo, God does not require permission from your Bishop to bless me. My progress in life is not connected in any way to your Bishop I don't and will NEVER worship your Bishop with you, I will not hesitate to point out any of his teachings not in consonance with the teachings of Christ here or elsewhere Like I said concerning his throwing curses here and there that the teachings of Christ prohibits that. Christians should not curse no matter the provocation Matthew 5:38-48 Rev 22:10-15 Continue in your Idolatry if it so pleases you. As for me, I have sworn never to be part of Idolatrous worship. Jesus is my mediator, my chief priest and my Lord. I will not reply you again God bless you |
The fearful and the unbelieving will soon pounce on Pastor Adeboye with " how dare you talk about men of God, judge not, for talking about men of god you and your future may attract curse. Pastor Adeboye you have to be careful when talking about men of god to avoid attracting curse to your future and children " With this kind of threat they intimidate people from saying the truth even when it is found to be clearly compromised. Some will return the money, some others(arrogant kinds) will keep to the seed. Pastor Adeboye loves God sincerely, once he is convinced something is wrong he withdraws from it instantly. Mt 5:38-48 prohibits a Christian from throwing curses no matter the provocation. Jesus came to save the lost, break the curses of the law and restore the infinite blessing of God |
[quote author=Dumexoga post=30435158][/quote]Your fear of Oyedepo is surely standing on your way of serving God. All the rubbish you wrote up there shows how much you have suffered under men who teach as doctrine the commandment of men. Jesus taught you whom to fear, God not men. If I see any teachings of Oyedepo and others of his kind that is not represented in the teachings of Christ on this forum or elsewhere I will not hesitate to point it out. In fact, It is within the purview of the new testament to do that, so he that is overtaken in errors will turn back I have dared to say that Bishop Oyedepo in his present state is not my standard for Christ-likeness. He can be for you God bless you |
misreal:Get a dictionary and get the full meaning of judgment I leave a word with you Read your Bible and know Jesus personally. Don't rely on some god men, they could dissappoint and fail the great trust you reposed on them. The wicked ones could also imprison you in a cage of fear and extortion |
Soso990240:What are you practicing Christianity or Judaism? You are free to believe anything they teach you, however, the new testament remains the standard for Christians. Your pastor can twist the bible to polish his ego Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. Anything outside of this is a SPELL Matthew 5:38-48 prohibits a Christian from throwing curses here and there. There are other passages read and digest the above first In addition, BokoHaram is already cursed not by Oyedepo who I said is not permitted to curse anybody not even his worst enemy Satan, BH by their holding onto the laws which are against law are in a position which in that line of thought, the curse is from God and the breaking of it can only come through the newness of life made available by faith in the once and only once atonement of Christ. |
kendrick9:You are blessed! Thank God his ministry came out to deny and delete youtube videos to it because that would have added more to the voices who already doubt Oyedepo's conducts and authenticity as a Christian these past years |
acidtalk:I don't know whether he is a rogue or not. One thing I know is that the Key of Hell's gate is not with a Nigerian called Oyedepo. He can claim to have the keys to bless, make his worshipers rich through a multiplying effect on the seeds they sow to his Winners ltd but going further to claim possession of the keys to Hell is way out of it |
acidtalk:I don't know where they get all these things from Oyedepo does not have any such keys in his possession. It is the height of arrogance for him to claim he does He controls Covenant University and Winners limited which is very distant from matters concerning Hell or Heaven |
LastProphet: LastProphet:It is Curse Oyedepo can't curse nobody if he is truly a practicing Christian he is only condemned to bless. Only God can curse yet a Christian whose redemption from the curse cost God so much can't be cursed by any man It is understandable if we are talking about Spell which is a stock in trade of the Occult and magicians regardless of the title they append to their names. Some use Prophets, Pastors, Bishop, Alpha or the traditional Babalawo, Guru, lord and the rests. The fruits they bear go before them |
@Misreal, I think your problem is that you have been fed with too many 'fear me because I am a man of God or I curse you' by Oyedepo. You will keep looking for evidence that the allegations are real. Your type will say the Slapping video is doctored that your Papa can't and will never do that If you take time to study and have a good knowledge of the what the Bible teaches Men like Oyedepo will never be your Standard of how Jesus looked like. For your information this is not the first time Oyedepo will breech contract with people. He has a number of court cases most times borne out of his belief that he has successfully subjected people to fear him therefore, nobody can sue him when he chooses to back out from an agreement or hurt people. He is very WRONG on that because everybody can't be his subject |
tegaever:Fear God and keep his commandment. Men like Oyedepo will dissappoint where you least expected |
emmasege:My friend prophets called by Satan can reward/ bless their people with gifts, protection and guidance at a cost of parting with your money inform of seeds. They can also kill an ungodly person who through their spells A Christian can expose the evil and darkness these your heroes are involved in without any harm. For instance, Oyedepo slapped a lady in his arrogance that is very ungodly and are you now saying because I said so, it will attract your opposites? Read your Bible, understand what it teaches about Jesus personally or you will be in perpetual bondage to men who feed you with fear and teach you stuffs that will make you an imprisoned subject to their extortionist theories |
ceejayclas:So na only Oyedepo and Oritsejafor you see. In your area there are many false prophets claiming to be something, loving to be addressed as Prophet Dr. Miracle Power Okafor The PhD attached is as diabolical as the motive behind their ministration By the way, Oyedepo is not diabolical but I can't say the same for Oritsejafor till he ministers in a Crusade without those rings and Chains |
PastorKun:It is in their best interest they left the forum. From onset they lacked any scripture to support the questions raised on the activities at Love worlds. Not even Pastor Chris the founder with all his sweet English could give straight answers to the abuse of bible privilege without confusing himself. I watched a video where he was busy with twisting tattoos topic. First, he said emphatically there is no word like tattoos in the Bible, a week after he said as a follow up that it is not in his version of Bible as tattoos but as marks. In summary, he refused to admit it is in the bible and therefore, nothing wrong with it from a Christian perspective except that the permanent ones can't be removed at will There is no true Christian with genuine background who will be comfortable with happenings at Love worlds. The glitters there is definitely not from gold |
Also last year, 2014, the National Association of Witches and Wizards met in Benin, Edo State to discuss the issue of insurgency. A press release followed where they stated that their expertise in spiritual matters will end BH by December 2014. This is January 2015, they are yet to issue another press release why there mission to Sambisa forest has failed to provide us with results It is pertinent at this point to note that BH are outlaws and can be wiped into oblivion by a tactfully sound, well equiped security forces, Foreign help in terms of coalition forces willbe required |
Prophet TB Joshua, in a live broadcast spoke passionately or rather prophesied that Bokoharam will end in 2013, he mentioned a particular month (on or before).While the time was approaching, he gave another prophecy that a more deadlier sect will emerge perhaps annulling the previous prophecy when it was clear that BH called a bluff of his earlier prophecy. Last year Chibok girls were kidnapped, in one his broadcast he said the girls will be released soon. And then again while trying to unravel the sudden collapse of his building, heussed so many groups including BH for complicity acc |
Bokoharam has defied many of the Nigerian Spiritual Consultants. The bold ones who came out straight to prophecy, decree and threaten the Bokoharam psychos are now threading with care Starting with Bishop Oyedepo, In a broadcast in front of tens of thousands followers, he declared 'I curse Bokoharam' and a resounding Amen followed. Apparently, the Bishop does know that a Christian should not curse. But because he has positioned himself in the mind of his followers as someone with the ability to bless those who empty their pockets to his Winners Inc. to provoke increase. It is possible the adherents get the desired increase but in the case of Curse it is not Biblical for him(a man) to curse anybody. And That's why despite the urgency, seriousness in his facial expression, the top of his voice decree, the repetitions of the curse, years down the line the curse has had no effect Laws of Good and blessing, Evil and Curses are eternal principles that were as old as the existence on earth. Actions get consequences. Oyedepo's decree/curse is not required for the consequences of the BH's actions to manifest . It is like he cursing Satan. Satan is already doomed, BH elements are doomed already. The timing of their doom is not in the hands of a Bishop Unless Bishop Oyedepo meant Spell which is an Occultic term and action. In that case, he will have some comparison with the others in the comments below |
prettymina:A number of Yoruba moslems often go to Church. I think they preferred it to Islam It could also be that she has her parents divided between Islam and Christianity. Any how it is, It is better she remain a moslem than becoming seemingly a christian convert brainwashed and fed with the dubious gospel according to the fake miracle superstars The true gospel according Jesus is becoming scarce and only few Church denominations hold on to it |
Is the guy man pastor cute with Jerry curls Is he trying to mimic American accent Does he have a cluster of mini skirted, over maked up ladies as workers Is he also in the habit of demanding that his converts submit their school fees and feeding money completely for the gospel of god which to him must fly on the wings of dollars Does he intimidate his followers into submission through packaging himself as a deity or a representative of one, who can strike down another for objecting to his questionable demands Does he use the problems of persons as bait to extract, defraud and instill fears... If yes, there we have a fake preacher |
The Ghanaian Pastor na "learner" why didn't he prepare the magic portion that will make the sick well for some hour or few days at least to pose for good video clips and photographs. After which the disease reappears in full regalia Nigerian Fraud Pastors are smarter, they cross the proverbial 7 seas and 7 evil forests to get the pot that keep the (fake gospel) merchandise afloat |
Mr Grundy, You don't claim ignorant of the kind of fruits that had led to him being in the news, do you? All that glitters are not gold. |
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When will Christians realize that God does not need an Elijah to relate with his children at this time.