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tpia1: the picture wouldnt be there if it had nothing to do with the content.

no need sugarcoating the post, plz.

its quite clear.

the only people dancing were females, so obviously, the op just didnt include "female" in the thread title maybe to avoid controversy.

the male version of the thread has already been opened, its about shoki or something. Just that this one has more details since its for women.

tpia1: since all the humans in the op's picture are women, this thread is obviously directed at the females.

qstar: Yeah, in line with the OP.
Whatsoever a man soweth, that he shall also reap.

Actually, there seems to be no sowing done by us here. God already knows that i'm doomed to hell, god is the sower. It is just like a pre-programmed algorithmic system. And inadvertently for us, god is supreme, His word is final.

The logical thing to do is, "send to hell those who are meant for hell" and "teleport to heaven those who are meant for heaven". No need for judgement. Or is god not supreme again? is He anticipating objections?

MizMyColi: Lmao...... I sounded angry/peeved, right?
Believe me, I wasn't. It's why I had to take down the fonts and characters I used.
I just wish someone gets me, I wouldn't be surprised if in long run, it is ultimately discovered that we're saying the same thing. The only culprit then would be ENGLISH.

Thanks for your time btw

shdemidemi: No, no no... when God spoke to Moses, Abraham and other prophets in the past they heard audible voices. Hebrews 1:1 says God will speak to us today through His word.

Jesus said it is expedient that He left for the Spirit to come and lead us to all truth... The Spirt of Jesus rose, appeared to Paul and gave him a mandate to deliver the word of the Spirit to believers.

The Bible never said the Spirit will teach us scriptures by whispering or screaming in our ears. When we study, He works on it to give us understanding and to bring to remembrance what we read.

You are yet to show anything that says the Spirit will say anything asides from what the word is saying...

The word is actually the Spirit speaking... Any spirit speaking to you aside from what the word is saying is evil don't even teach such doctrine, it is from the deepest part of hell.

shdemidemi: You are yet to answer my question....

Where did God say we will hear Him through any voice asides through the word which is also the Spirit.

MizMyColi: So, which of the versions exactly is the word and sword of the spirit, is it the protestant 66 books or the catholic 81 books or the septuagint version or the deuterocanonicals and so many other variations of scriptures out there. I assert that the only word of truth I know is Jesus and there are so many ways he reveals himself to his own, if he chooses the bible or any other spirit inspired manuscript or book.......why not?! It might interest you to know that Peter, Paul, that Eunuch and many first century Christians didn't have the bible, so, what was their sword of the spirit and word of God back then?

shdemidemi: Jesus said-John 6: 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

I know God said He will speak through His word...

I know the Word is became flesh (Jesus)

I know the word is Spirit

I know apostle Paul held the office of the Holy Spirit to teach the church all truth that was promised. The Word is full, it's complete, it's sure.

Which other voice are you talking about.. I might be missing a thing.

Dlionsheart: EXCELLENT!
THANK YOU!!
BUT,
what is fivefold ministry, sir.

shdemidemi: No, He isn't dumb today but He speaks through His Word(Jesus)
Hebrews 1
1 In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. 3 The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.

Please show me where He promised to speak to you or me today through any voice.

shdemidemi: @torchwave

I am yet to come across where God says He will speak in any voice to any Christian today.. If you know of one, please let me know.

I have other questions for you, but I will keep it for later, prolly after I am clear with this. Thanks

Goshen360: Thank you bro. The brother you talking to is just not getting it so I stopped talking to him. In today's Christianity, people "choose" what they want to believe and discard the truth in their face. Many had been wrongly taught but refused to admit the fact they're wrongly taught but will never take a second thought to pause and take a second look by themselves when they become mature in the faith. I was also taught the same thing torchwave was teaching and I can recognize it.

MizMyColi: He lives in me, and I in Him...."My sheep know my voice and they follow". One thing though, the early christians did not have the bible as we do today, and I'm pretty sure that not all of them met Jesus, so how did they know his "voice"..... While I don't dispute that there are actually people who hear God, more oft than not, the "voice" we think of as the voice of God are just voices in our head. God speaks to me, yes....but I've become humble enough to accept that I've never actually heard him audibly or even in my mind. Yet, when he speaks to my spirit through other means, I know he has and I obey/act on it. I've never regretted. God cannot be boxed in a bible....that's idolatory. I trust his spirit to guide me in the best paths....no one puts their trust in God, NOT the bible and is ever misled. That is not to say the bible is bad.......Its the best and most life transforming book I've ever read, through the lenses of the holy spirit. When I'm led to, I will not hesitate to pick it up again.

MizMyColi: If by word of God, you mean bible, yes.[Though I don't consider the bible - "THE WORD OF GOD"] I quote scriptures and they are a huge blessing to me, however, I find that the zeal to study the "word" has unconsciously left me. The zeal I have now is to KNOW THE WORD......for in the beginning was the word, this word was with God and the word was God - Jesus. Hope that answers your question?

alexleo: You are right. He is a heavily confused.

chuxyz: you are committing a fallacy we call argumentum ad hominem. Attacking me instead of the argument. I have made my point. Make yours

chuxyz: I'm not an atheist for i believe in God and His existence. I have been with lot of atheist and i see much reasons in their reasoning. I only have to believe in God by only accepting one fact in my heart - that God is imperfect. And i believe, if we have this in the religious believe, there would be little or no atheist in our midst. Why we have most atheist is because of the contradiction of a perfect God creating imperfect beings. I think God is imperfect but through praises(hyping) there was need for christians to overhype him. Of course, while praising someone you must over hype that person. My king in my village is called and praised with the name ogbuagu (lion killer) but i tell you this same man will scream when a cockroach jumps on his body. If you read Genesis 6:6, it indicated that God regretted ever creating man. Regrets can be attributed to mistakes, which can be attributed to imperfection. And one only regrets because he doesn't know what the future holds. That means God does not know the future. He never knew man will disappoint him and that's imperfection. If God had created satan and man perfect, they wouldn't have turned against him. But of course God is our big boss and father we must praise Him to get what we want. Now i have proved God is imperfect, let me prove there is God. Men, this one is hard o. But i will say for you to believe in imperfection of a God means that there must be a God at the first place. Likewise, if you believe in evil forces(juju or jazz), then there must be an opposite force which is concerned about good morals. For there to be voodoo means there has to be God. There must also be a wonderful designer of you and i. Don't mind Charles Darwin that said we evolved from ape. He is a liar cos we still have apes existing up till date yet none wants to evolve to human. Lol. There is God o and there are many proofs.

onyaigo: Anyway...for me sha oooo....it happened when I was a teen,i took in immediately i got disvirgined.....it wasn't funny then....going to school,,,the stigma,,the gossip,,,,breaking my family's heart,,,emotional,,,psychological,,,mental trauma(na die)....thank God I never did an abortion(i for done die of heart attack)....today am a better,,stronger,,prettier,,,classier lady......its been from one blessing to another since then(i can't fit shout).........I have learnt that love ain't sex,,relationship is for the matured in mind,,parents know your kids in and out,make them your best friend.....my advice is,,,no Sex before marriage(u r entitled to ur opinion so don't give me dat look)..,,love is not a feeling but a choice u make,,,,if it is easy getting the right partner we all would have been married by now so chill and be the best you can be(your own dey road)......brb.

Goshen360: They're ministry GIFT.....and they're also callings. Can it be white and also black? Many things we're wrong taught but we questioned none, that was when we're children. This might be a play on words depending on your understanding but speak bible language.


They are given to some, not all.>>>>>>If they are given to some...what is it? Calling or GIFT? Reconcile this your statement here below:

Each one of the fivefold ministry is A GIFT....for purpose of ministering to God's people. That's why it is called ministry gift. You just said everyone is called....into the one fold and body of Christ but what each person is assigned to do is not the calling anymore because we are all called but it is what we're SENT to do....an assignment within the body we're called into. It's as simple as that.

Grace is what is given to all Christians and if you're saying it is given to some without asking, then you're saying all men have the ministry gift. If they're grace of God to the church, that will mean every Christian is functioning under one fivefold ministry or another but scripture proves you wrong>>>>>>Are they all prophets? Are they all apostles?....they answer is no.

]2. It is wrong to measure old testament heroes with the standard of new creatures - Scripture says, without us (who Christ died for), the old testament heroes cannot be complete\made perfect. Hebrews 11:40. You'll have to show a scripture that a new testament believer can have calling from birth, otherwise, I don't buy into that and don't believe such teachings.