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Christianity EtcRe: How Does One Know He/she Is Called By God by torchwave: 10:07pm On Jul 17, 2014
I said I'd further explain the methods through which God's Calling is known to the people He has chosen, so here it is.

A. Revelation knowledge from God Himself: This means God making known His Calling to the individual. He could choose to talk to the person through an audible voice or through the still small voice; whichever way, He makes His Calling and plans known to the person. In that case, it doesn't matter where the person may be. He or she may be alone or among family or friends or on their way to a place when the voice of God comes into their consciousness, but they (the ones being called) are the only ones who hear the voice.

B. Personal Prophecy: This is the most common method of knowing the mind of God concerning an individual. God's Calling to people can also be known through individuals with the gift of prophecy. He also makes known His Calling or intentions to those He calls through someone operating the gift of prophecy. Like I said, it is the most common method of knowing if one is called or not. For it to be reliable, it should be confirmed by different Christians or Leaders with the same gift of prophecy because in the mouths of two or three witnesses a word is confirmed. @ Weah96, this is where direct revelation knowledge from God differs from personal prophecy though both are from God.

C. Dreams: Another way by which God makes known His Calling to people is through dreams. When they were very young, many Pastors, Apostles Prophets and Evangelists received dreams from God indicating they were called to be servants of God. It is not unusual for them to receive such kind of dreams repeatedly over the years. A very funny fact is that if they were the kind of people who normally have difficulty recalling their dreams after they are awake, they will always recall the dreams related to their Calling accurately.

D. Vision: this is another method by which God makes His Calling known to the individuals He has chosen into the fivefold ministry. The vision usually comes to the individual unexpectedly. The person will not be aware of his surroundings and may find it difficult to understand the meaning of the pictures before him or her, but one thing is certain, he/she will see himself or herself ministering to a large crowd of people, performing healings by the Spirit of God, people rising from wheelchairs, the blind receiving their sight, and many creative miracles taking place in the gathering. Such people would keep their visions to themselves for fear of being labeled crazy and would seek someone they can confide in, someone they can trust to listen to them before they can open up concerning their visions.

No matter the method God chooses to make His Calling known, it is dangerous to rely on your experience alone. You could be walking in the imagination of your heart or, worse, be deceived by a lying spirit. That's why it is pertinent to confirm the Calling through other Spirit-filled Christian Leaders to be safe and certain of the Calling from God. Remember, the Word says, 'In the multitude of counselors, there is safety.'

DEagle1, once again you're welcome. I hope this explanation of the methods is helpful in understanding how God calls people into the ministry.
Christianity EtcRe: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by torchwave: 8:40am On Jul 17, 2014
Op, I have not found any reason to doubt God or His existence, even to this day.

If you've been asking God for something and He has not answered for many many years now, it only means the problem is from you, not God.

I know I may not seem to make sense but that's the ugly truth. God magnifies His Word above His name, and His Word says 'ask and it shall be given you.' If He has not given you, it only means one of these:

You are not asking in faith. You ask and doubt. You will never receive anything from God when you doubt.

What you're asking is not His will

You ask because you want to spend it on your lust

You ask and give up, a pattern you have adopted over the years

Your heart is not right with God

You have not being specific, just asking vague requests

You lack patience. God is not moved by the swift passage of time. He wants to build faith in you by delaying the answers, and I have discovered through experience that patience is the strongest building block of strong faith.

Op, just ask God to show you why He has not answered any of your prayers. You'll be wise to do that as He is more willing to give than you're to ask and receive. If you give up, like you may have always done, your loss bro.
Christianity EtcRe: How Does One Know He/she Is Called By God by torchwave: 7:56am On Jul 17, 2014
DEagle1: @ Torchwave, this is coming a bit late but thanx v.much for that insightful explanation. The way u speak u are either a pastor or sometin close. Please if u can, how does one know he has this calling maybe from birth as u claimed or know when he is called or even get called? How are these guys so sure?
You're welcome.

DEagle1, I really need you to open your mind just as you did with my previous post because of what I'm about to say.

There are a few ways one can know he or she is called by God into any of the fivefold ministry. Even though they are different methods, what they all share in common is the fact that God initiates them, He is the One who makes you know your Calling through any of the methods. No man can know his Calling by human knowledge.

I shall list the methods for now because listing and explaining them will be lenghty; explanation will be reserved for another post, another time.

The methods:

A. Revelation knowledge from God Himself

B. Personal Prophecy

C. Dream and

D. Vision

All are reliable but the best way to be certain that they are from God is to seek confirmation from other Spirit-filled Christians or Leaders (Pastors, Apostles or Prophets). That way, you can avoid deception.

About the bolded, God knows
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Christianity EtcRe: Lagos Pastor Confesses: I Belong To The Ogboni Confraternity (FULL INTERVIEW) by torchwave: 10:04am On Jul 16, 2014
indigene: who is who in Yorubaland that doesn't belong to Ogboni society. Ogboni fraternity was formed by an Anglican clergy for sole aim of helping those in need especially in the field of education, particularly the Yorubas. Ogbo ni means my brother.
You might be surprise to learn that Enoch Adeboye, the Oyedepos, TB Joshua's etc are members. it is a tribalistic organization directed towards this line by Awolowo, while the Hausas are fighting the ibos, Awolowo was busy ogbonizing yorubaly the federal civil service,,judicial and industrial sector
Really? I see. There's no point arguing with you. You are free to think and do as you wish. As a Christian, that is if you're, you're free to serve God, Oduduwa, Sango, Orunmilla and co....for different purposes. In the end, and I maintain, you've none but yourself to blame for your deception.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeking The Face Of God - The Journey by torchwave(op): 9:50am On Jul 16, 2014
I haven't seen or heard from Udeme4Christ and Fruitfulvine for quite some time now. I hope that temporary crash did not adversely affect them.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeking The Face Of God - The Journey by torchwave(op): 9:46am On Jul 16, 2014
You know what they say - experience is the best teacher. I recall the words of Bishop David Oyedepo in one of his books (I have forgotten the title of the book) where he said and I quote, "Seeking God is not fun; it is hard work!" I tell you, he cannot be more right.

Since I began this journey, the only reason I have come this far in seeking God, besides grace and faith, is because I keep my eyes on the goal, the reward of daily communion with God that will last till eternity. I don't keep my eyes on the journey or I'd have found a perfect excuse to quit.

I know the pain I go through seeking His face; I also know the rewards and benefits of finding Him, and I know that the latter is much much greater than the former, so incomparable as speck to a mountain. I can't quit, I won't quit, I will never quit, ever. I have tasted and seen that the Lord is sweet, nothing else matters but finding Him.

I could keep my journey in search of God private, between me and God. On the contrary, I made it public because I want to encourage many by documenting my progress. That is my only motive, nothing else. If people get to read how I've been seeking God since I made it public in May, my challenges, my experiences, they'll also be encouraged to seek God and, like me, they will refuse to give up till they have achieved their goal. If and when that happens, one of my dreams will be fulfilled to the glory and praise of God.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeking The Face Of God - The Journey by torchwave(op): 12:05am On Jul 15, 2014
Busybody2: Congratulations torchwave,


Job 33:15 In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumbering upon the bed: then openeth the ears of men and sealeth their INSTRUCTIONS...



He is a faithful God hence reason you already have some experience of His presence through music, dreams, the radio, etc and that encounter in your 3rd paragraph is one of the means He speaks to us...That was God talking to you, He communicates His mind and His will to us in various ways and that was an instruction from Him to you, to exercise patience and to reassure you that you now have a relationship with HIM...Add more praise and worship to your routine, cos as you know He inhabits the praises of His people, and I bet you know all there is to know about praying and fasting...I've had several of such similar lucid communication, although mine mostly came by way of chastisement cos I kept refusing to submit to His will...


I'd hear this subtle voice...then hurriedly wake up and see the same passage in the Bible...I had an instance I was running from someone for years and told him "biko stay away from me since it is you your Mama wan kill..." Following this, I got weeks and weeks of loud vivid instructions to stay put, etc, yet I refused and was still saying no and arguing with God... then the next voice I heard was "disobedience is worse than witchcraft"... I jumped outta bed startled and checked the Bible and it was there, shuo shocked Then I started scoping God that shebi He is the one who says we should flee from danger, that that is tantamount to sleeping with the roof on fire, that how can my saying no to His will be worse than witchcraft, etc. I talked and negotiated till I was blue in the face, but for where...I love God sha cheesy
Hey BB, your hilarious post really got me laughing helplessly.

You know, that is God for you.

BB, it is evident you have a close relationship with God, something God desires with all His children but few can really say they have it.

There are things I want us to discuss privately because doing so here will be inappropriate.

Besides, you quoted my post from the thread that got lost when NL crashed for some days. How were you able to do that? I have tried to recover that thread to no avail.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeking The Face Of God - The Journey by torchwave(op): 7:16pm On Jul 14, 2014
Elijah78: Following.........
Hi Elijah. Very glad to see you bro. Eagerly awaiting your contribution. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: How Does One Know He/she Is Called By God by torchwave: 6:02am On Jul 14, 2014
Goshen360: Please follow this same discourse here: https://www.nairaland.com/1809614/pastor-called

There's nothing like "special" calling for any man in the new testament. Any man that says he's called into ministry is either ignorant or a liar. Every Christian is called but what you're "sent" to do is what differs. A pastor is not a title, neither is a prophet but it is ministry GIFT by Christ to the church.

Also, permit me to say this: 90% of what the institutionalized church taught us is wrong. We need to sit down with the word ourselves and give ourselves to ministry of the word and prayers.

New American Standard Bible
"But we will devote ourselves to prayer and to the ministry of the word."

King James Bible
But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word.
They are ministry gifts but they are also Callings. They are given to some, not all. They are given to some people without their asking as God sees fit, something present with them at birth. Any Calling into the fivefold ministry is the grace of God to the Church.

Everybody is called but very few are chosen by God into the fivefold ministry. You either have it or you don't. You cannot pray to God to make you a Pastor or Prophet when you don't have the Calling. The Calling to teach the body of Christ is a special one reserved for some.

Seek to know the gift(s) God has given you and use it for the benefit of the Body of Christ rather than self.

The fivefold ministry gifts are not more important than the singing gift or serving gift or praying gift God gave to others. They are also callings but what makes them different from ministry Calling is that they do not occupy the position of responsibility as seen in the fivefold ministry gifts.
Christianity EtcRe: Interesting Questions, Who Wants To Try Answering Them? by torchwave: 5:30am On Jul 14, 2014
tpia1: you've raised a lot of points here.

so, barring ungodly means of making money which unbelievers (and casual christians) engage in without fear of conscience, lets say on a level playing ground, all things being equal and barring underground ways of making money, why do unbelievers still continue to be richer on average?
Like I said earlier, believers and unbelievers have equal opportunities to wealth accumulation. If the unbeliever can have much wealth, the believer can do the same. Therefore, barring ungodly means of making wealth, other points will follow including the fact that many believers have chosen to live their lives free of the AMBITION 'to own the world' - the ambition that drives most unbelievers. It might not be the ambition to own the world but it is always the drive or aspiration to live above their current status of wealth by aiming for more. It is not bad; it is healthy as long as the route taken to wealth is the right one. However, many believers do not have that ambition to strive for more or to attain more wealth, even if they have attained the status of wealth, because wealth is viewed as a clog in the wheel of their spiritual progress.
Christianity EtcRe: Interesting Questions, Who Wants To Try Answering Them? by torchwave: 12:15pm On Jul 12, 2014
TheBigUrban2: @ bold


In summary, you are saying that

-unbelievers are richer because they are more ready to engage in immoral/corrupt businesses than believers
-unbelievers are richer because they believe in worldly things while believers focus on God and the afterlife





what a joke
If by the term 'unbelievers' you mean many, then you are right it is my point. If you understood the generalization to be sweeping, inclusive of all, then you have misinterpreted my statement.

Know this, many many unbelievers as well as the numerous I know will never dabble into shady or dubious enterprises in order to enrich themselves. They'd rather sweat and toil forever if it is the price of retaining their respect, dignity and probity. These are just like believers who regard honest means of income as the only path to wealth achievement.

I cited the less acceptable and immoral sources of income as the other paths to wealth accumulation which are more traveled by unbelievers since they are not restrained or hindered by any concept of right or wrong. I said 'more traveled by unbelievers' because it is not unusual to find some believers among them.
Christianity EtcRe: Interesting Questions, Who Wants To Try Answering Them? by torchwave: 8:57am On Jul 12, 2014
Kendzyma: d bolded reminds me of d so calld believers calld pastors.bro nt all unbelievers accumulatd der wealth tru dubious means,and u cnt expect a believer to b rich wen he/she enrichs iz/er pastor's pocket,dats y its only pastors dat flunts der wealth az a believer,followers dnt av anitin to flunt sinc dey ar already milkd dry.and r u saying if 1 isnt a believer,d person's wealth and everytin iz authomatically acquired tru dubious or immoral means?
Not at all. I expected this question from someone who does not fully understand my post.

I said there are avenues of wealth the unbelievers will explore that are unsuitable to the believers. I never implied that those avenues are the only opportunites to wealth and that is why I gave examples to further clarify my point.

There are legal, conventional and acceptable paths to wealth taken by the believers and the unbelievers. I was not referring to this in my post and I distinguished the two by the examples I gave.
Christianity EtcRe: The Other Side Of God. (christians Make Your Contributions So That We Can Learn) by torchwave: 6:24am On Jul 12, 2014
alexleo: Thanks dear for this beautiful one again. God bless you. With this one can really understand/appreciate why Job said what he said in Job 2:10-

Shall we indeed accept good from God, and shall we not accept adversity?” In all this Job did not sin with his lips.

I believe Job understood the just nature of God thus the above statement.
Exactly. His fairness is beyond absolute comprehension. If He loves the saint or righteous then He also loves the sinner or wicked. If He gives the saint good gifts then He also gives the wicked good gifts as well.

One more thing, all the angels in heaven including Lucifer and the fallen angels KNEW the consequences of sin. God told them. They knew the price of rebellion, nevertheless, some chose to rebel. Even after the fall of Lucifer and his angels, a group of angels rebelled and committed the sin God warned them not to commit. You know why I know this - that God warned them before punishing them? Now let's think for a moment. If the wrath of God is just and fair, then it means His judgment is a result of despised warning.

This tells us Lucifer and his angels were justly kicked out of heaven because they failed to heed the warning of God - freewill at work. Remember the days of Noah, when God told Him to build an ark, how that generation refused to heed the warning of the destruction of the world by rain and were destroyed. It is God's judgment, fair, just and right.

Though God's judgment is always deserved, it is never without mercy.

Btw, you're welcome.
Christianity EtcRe: Interesting Questions, Who Wants To Try Answering Them? by torchwave: 2:01am On Jul 12, 2014
Tpia, there are a number of reasons for that.

in the first place, unbelievers and believers have equal opportunities to wealth, fame and status. However, unbelievers seem to have exclusive access to these pleasures of life while believers are denied them.

There is no rocket science explanation to that fact...a mere observation will provide the answers.

You should know that religious beliefs play a fundamental role in determining people's attitude to the things of life such as wealth, career, marriage, association, etc etc...

There are avenues of wealth explored by unbelievers that are considered morally unsuitable by believers. Unbelievers capitalise on these get-rich-quick schemes because they have no moral restraint or values which keep believers from toeing the same path to wealth. A few examples include drug trafficking, local and international advance fee fraud, money laundering, bribery, kidnap and ransom, extortion, embezzlement, prostitution, human trafficking, robbery, contract assassination, romance scam, featuring in pornographic movies or mags, etc. While unbelievers, unrestrained by any notion of morality or dignity, are willing to get their hands soiled to get rich, believers, on the other hand, prefer a different path to wealth, the path that does not conflict with the teachings of Christ and the laws of the state though the price is the length of time it takes in accumulating wealth when compared with unbelievers who seek instant gratification of wealth.

Secondly, the desire to get wealthy is another factor. Believers know their wealth and status on earth will all perish one day...one way or the other. They know it won't last. That is why the desire to be wealthy is not a driving force in their lives. They prefer working towards accumulating spiritual wealth to worldly wealth. That does not mean they don't work towards achieving worldly wealth. They do, but the difference is they are not passionately committed to becoming wealthy as the unbelievers. They'd rather be well-to-do. Besides, many, not all, believers view accumulation of wealth as hindrance to attaining the ultimate goal of their Faith - Heaven.

Moreover, many wealthy unbelievers, when they became Christians, gave up their goods and wealth for the benefit of all. Here you will recall the idiom 'poor as a church rat.' Can't delve into it right now but it is a proof of how many gave up their ostentatious and wealthy lifestyle to serve God after accepting Christ into their lives.

In addition, many unbelievers have the tendency of showing off their wealth to the world through the media or any other means. When they buy a gold rolex watch you will know, when they buy a new house they will announce it to the world, when they purchase a jet it will make the headlines of newspapers. Believers, on the other hand, who are even much wealthier prefer to do the same things without making a sound. The result is that people have the impression that unbelievers are wealthier than believers. That may be true but that is not always the case.

There are many other reasons but these should suffice to provide answers to your question.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeking The Face Of God - The Journey by torchwave(op): 11:49pm On Jul 11, 2014
Hi Busybody, glad to hear from you. Thanx for the email. Will get in touch with you.
Christianity EtcRe: The Other Side Of God. (christians Make Your Contributions So That We Can Learn) by torchwave: 1:28pm On Jul 10, 2014
alexleo: Thanks for your explanations. They are really good.
In the light of your statement above it means you are saying that the fall of Lucifer didn't come as a suprise to God. Why then did he go ahead to create him knowing what his fall will bring to the world. Do you think its for a purpose? What purpose?

N/B. Pls feel free to say all that you want to say. People are reading. People are learning. You might also learn from others when they read your contribution and make their submissions. I'm enjoying you and SalC. I hope others will contribute. This issue is one that christians shy away from going deep into, yet a lot of them leave the faith because they dont understand it. God is your strength.
Hi Alexleo. You are very right when you said we learn from each other. I learn much from nairalanders and still value their input which broadens my knowledge.

@ topic. I wanted to address that question when I made that post but time did not permit further explanation.

It is logical to ask that. Why then did God create Lucifer if He knew Lucifer would sin? Why display His wrath concerning something He would have easily avoided? Similarly, we ask why God created Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Osama Bin Laden and other notable evil figures that have gone down into the pages of history. Surely God would have spared the world of the pain and incalculable loss their existence inflicted on the world by not creating them along with numerous others of the same evil tendency, known or unknown. Why on earth does God let evil people into the world?

This thread was created to discuss the nature of God, His love and His wrath. However, that is not all to the nature of God. Knowing His love and wrath, you must also understand His fairness. God is a just and fair God. He shows no partiality. Knowing His love will make you love Him and be confident of His Fatherly love that doesn't condemn towards you, knowing His wrath will make you aware of the reality of His judgment towards the disobedient, while knowing His fairness is the key to understanding His creation.

His fairness is the reason why He created good and evil, heaven and hell, good and bad, righteousness and sin, light and darkness, holy angels and fallen angels, good men and evil men. It is the ultimate reason why He created and placed the Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in the same garden of Eden. His fairness is the reason why He makes His rain fall on the just and the unjust as well as making His sun shine on the just and the unjust.

If He created one, He had to be fair to create the other. It is His nature. It wouldn't have been His nature to create one and leave the other non-existent. God would be unjust if He made only the righteous and holy to serve and obey Him being aware of His judgment while sparing the wicked and disobedient.

When you sit and think about the depth of God's fairness, you are filled with nothing but wonder. It is this same fairness that made Him permit the devil to tempt Adam and Eve. It is the same fairness that makes Him listen to and grant the devil his petition if it was made on legal grounds. It is His nature of fairness that makes Him create those who will make heaven and those who will go to hell. His fairness dictates He does for one what He does for another.

When God judges, His judgment is extremely fair and just and righteous. His wrath is fair and just. What He does for the righteous, He does for the sinner. If He punishes the sinner He will also punish the righteous when they sin - very fair. This is why the worst sinner can receive His forgiveness if he repents because God is fair.

He knew that Lucifer would sin, He knew Adam would sin, he knew the carnage and destruction of lives that would result if Hitler and Stalin were born, however, in His fairness He created them.

To know God's love, you must be aware of Him as a loving Father and a just Judge.

Just like SalC said, we can never know all until we cross over. We cannot fully know God until we go home to be with Him. However, the little knowledge of God I have is what I share. I stand to be corrected. I don't claim perfect knowledge. I am willing to hear opposing thoughts because that is how we learn.
Christianity EtcRe: The Other Side Of God. (christians Make Your Contributions So That We Can Learn) by torchwave: 11:02am On Jul 09, 2014
alexleo: Your points are good. Now my question is-
If angels have free will, why didnt God make provision for forgiveness or salvation for them as he made for man who is also a free moral agent? And the scripture said that our redemption plan was made from the foundation of the world(which means at the very beginning). This could mean that God knew that man being a free moral agent could choose to sin therefore he made a way of salvation for us. But he never made such for angels, which could also mean that angels were not meant to choose like man. Or could it be that lucifer took God unawares?
God did not make provision for the redemption of angels who sin because, unlike man, they are immortal spirits created to dwell in the holy Presence of God. They see God, they have been in the Presence of God and can tell good from evil. Their privilege of being in the Presence of God and see His glory is much greater than that of Man who was created to fellowship with God but was created mortal, not knowing good and evil, and not with the privilege of dwelling in heaven in the Presence of God like the angels who behold His glory everyday.

Thus, those angels knowing good and evil who still choose to commit evil being in the Presence of God do not have the privilege of redemption and forgiveness of sins because spirits cannot be redeemed as that is their final state in addition to abusing the very special privilege of dwelling in the very Presence of God, a privilege Man was not given. Where there was no sin, they sinned. It was an act of their will knowing the consequences of sin.

Now, Man comes into the picture as God designed it before He ever created anything but with lot less privileges as the angels'. Though his status is far greater than the angels as the express image of God, a child of God Himself created to fellowship with Him, not knowing good from evil, he still sinned and had to pay the price of sin - death. However, God had already set in motion plans for Man's redemption because Man could be redeemed, unlike the angels.

I could say more but I must stop here

One more thing, nothing takes God by surprise. Absolutely nothing!
Christianity EtcRe: The Other Side Of God. (christians Make Your Contributions So That We Can Learn) by torchwave: 1:47pm On Jul 08, 2014
Hello

Too many have gone astray, died along the way, become disillusioned and lost their precious faith, while much too many are headed in the direction of eternal perdition because they have not been able to FULLY understand the nature of God.

It is not uncommon to hear people say a loving God will never condemn any of His creation to hell. That is even better than those who believe there is no hell because, according to them, a loving God will never create a place like hell.

To know God is to know his nature. He is a God of love as well as a God of wrath. God has made known His nature to us numerous times in His Word so much that it should be something that is well known to anyone who reads his or her Bible. Knowing, teaching or being familiar with just a part of His nature leads to very grave doctrinal error that could cost the soul of such person and, worse, others.

I also believe God never created angels or man without freewill. There are no robots in heaven. God does not make robots. If Lucifer, a robot, sinned against God, the logical thing to do would be to repair him, or discard him as faulty but never to punish him for a 'mechanical' fault he committed as machines do not know good or evil. In that case, God would be blamed for Lucifer's malfunction in addition to being unfair for harshly treating Lucifer in the manner He did.

Even if God should design machines and call them angels, there would be no need to punish or reward them since they will always achieve and carry out the functions they were designed to do. Op, this is where your theory of angelic robots reveal a wide hole.

I shall continue this later when I have the time...
Christianity EtcRe: SEE The Punishment For Reading A Bible In Saudi Arabia [photos] by torchwave: 10:24pm On Jul 06, 2014
Reminds me of the words of Jesus Christ when He said the time would come when those who kill His disciples will think they are doing God a favour. I guess this is it.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeking The Face Of God - The Journey by torchwave(op): 10:07pm On Jul 06, 2014
WEEKLY UPDATE

This past week has been really really challenging. Despite it all, I give thanks to God, especially, because I have found Him faithful. I see His invisble hands at work in my life.

I have been seeking God for over six months now. In the first week of the seventh month of seeking His Face, my determination has not waned nor dwindled.

Sometimes it seems I am just 'wasting' my time sitting in the Presence of God daily, for months now, hearing nothing but the pervading silence of the early morning hours. It really takes faith to continue though seconds stretch into days and days into months.

Faith

In a nutshell, that is what keeps me going. That is what began this journey and that is what will end this journey. Quitting is not an option because it suggests a lack of faith. Without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him - Hebrews 11:6. Besides, I am fullly persuaded that God will honour His Word that says 'seek and you shall find.'
Christianity EtcRe: Have You Praised Him Yet, Today? by torchwave: 8:55pm On Jul 06, 2014
Father be exalted and glorified in my life in Jesus name.
CultureRe: Oba Of Ikeja Is Dead: Computer Village and Other Markets Shut Down! by torchwave: 6:14am On Jul 04, 2014
ayobase: RIP
Save it for the unfortunate souls whose heads will be buried along with the Oba as custom demands. I am sure you did not overlook the word 'rituals' in the news article. As usual, people will curtail their movement, especially at night, to avoid being the unwilling donors of heads to some Oba as his gifts to his ancestors in appreciation of a life well spent.
Christianity EtcRe: UNBELIEVEABLE: Angola Reportedly Bans Islam, Destroys Mosques by torchwave: 8:23am On Jul 03, 2014
Islamic terror, Islamic violence, Islamic extremism and bloodshed necessitate the ultimate solution of Islamic ban and destruction. I am not in favour of restricting people's fundamental right to religion, however, desperate times call for desperate measures.

Though it is a step in curbing the excesses of Islam, I wonder if it will work. I wonder if it will make things better...or worse.

Only time can tell.
Christianity EtcRe: That's My King!!! by torchwave: 7:50am On Jul 03, 2014
submit: SweetDelirium
Everybody is entitled to his opinion.
Christianity EtcRe: That's My King!!! by torchwave: 7:47am On Jul 03, 2014
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Please what good has the King of israel done to develop israel, talkless of the World?

Even the Romans developed israel more than the King of israel. The only thing that the King of israel did to his nation was to bring a series of war & destruction starting from his death, all the way down to the crusades and the zionist occupation.[/quote]You are alive today because of Him. That much you should be very grateful to Him.
Christianity EtcRe: That's My King!!! by torchwave: 7:40am On Jul 03, 2014
Kay 17: ^^
It is unfortunate that his kingship is not SELF EVIDENT.
It doesn't need to be self-evident. It is an indisputable and eternal FACT. His reign and supremacy is independent of Man's recognition. He has been, is, and always will be the King of the Universe.
Christianity EtcRe: Lagos Pastor Confesses: I Belong To The Ogboni Confraternity (FULL INTERVIEW) by torchwave: 7:40pm On Jul 02, 2014
Those who are deceived by this man have nobody but themselves to blame.
Christianity EtcRe: That's My King!!! by torchwave: 7:21pm On Jul 02, 2014
Kay 17: King of tiny Israel. Such a small king.
the world...nay...the universe has not produced any king equal to Him, much less greater than Him. He is not just the King of Israel; He is the King of the whole world and the universe. I doubt anyone can measure up to Him in stature of greatness and royalty - no one.
Christianity EtcRe: Those Doubting The Existence Of God,what Is The Source Of Supernatural Powers by torchwave: 3:35pm On Jul 02, 2014
You know, syntax and sentence construction is not a yardstick of experience and knowledge.

When you begin to pick apart a person's sentence to ridicule him, it suggests you have nothing important to say, therefore, there's nothing you new you have to offer as far as the topic of discussion is concerned. Rather than employ your time and effort in puerile attempts at argument, it were better you said nothing to save the little respect you have left in the eyes of observers.

So typical of atheists. They never fall short of the expectation to turn any peaceful forum of discussion into a battlefield of bloodless verbal war.

It is very difficult to find a thread of discussion in this section that is devoid of verbal clashes when atheists are present. If this is how so-called intelligent folks express their opinion, I'd rather be listening to the cacophony of less intelligent species. At least, cacophony of animals is preferable to needless, unprovoked, pointless, noisy and irritating verbal exchanges by teenage adults.
Christianity EtcRe: Those Doubting The Existence Of God,what Is The Source Of Supernatural Powers by torchwave: 11:42am On Jul 02, 2014
Choi. Atheists are really suffering. grin grin

Even doctors sometimes are faced with cases that are medically and scientifically impossible, things that are beyond their scope of knowledge to which they can never offer any form of diagnosis or solution because things of that nature are never taught in science or schools.

Chai! Atheists! Atheists!!
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Christianity EtcRe: Those Doubting The Existence Of God,what Is The Source Of Supernatural Powers by torchwave: 9:08pm On Jul 01, 2014
hahahahaha. The comments here really got me laughing hard. Lwkm. Op, next time you wanna throw a question to atheists, choose a saner question. Better still, keep it to yaself.
Christianity EtcSeeking The Face Of God - The Journey by torchwave(op): 8:37am On Jul 01, 2014
This is a continuation of the thread "Interested In An Online Christian Group? Please Come In. Unbelievers Stay Out." It is unfortunate that a huge amount of data was lost, along with that thread, when the site crashed for days. Nevertheless, all is not lost.

Why a different title? Why not simply recreate the lost thread using the same title? A different title became essential to reflect the content of this thread. When I created the previous thread, I intended it to be an interaction (which it was to some extent) but it was, on the most part, a semblance of a weekly diary. Now that is what I intend by changing the title, however, the content and participation from others remain the same, the title is the only thing changed.

The thread will go on until the purpose of its existence is achieved - talking with God face to face. Even after that, the thread will stay alive to help others who are interested in fellowshipping with God achieve the greatest thing in life - knowing God. All this by His grace and to the glory of God.

This thread, like the other, is meant to be an interaction among fellow minded Christians. It is meant for encouraging, helping and learning from each other since our experiences in life are unique. It goes without saying that to live a victorious, peaceful, blessed, prosperous and joy-rich life in an ever darkening world of today, knowing God personally is the only door to that kind of life - Heaven on Earth.

If your desire, like mine, is to know God intimately, to have daily fellowship with Him and reap the numerous spiritual and physical benefits of communing with the Holy Spirit, you are graciously welcome to my journey to see the Face of God.

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