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@ Huxley

In John 1:1, we read "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." In verse 14, we read: "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us." We are told explicitly that Jesus Christ IS THE GOD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT!  But if you're a Christian, you probably already accept this. Therefore, by logical extension, you must also accept that it was Jesus Christ who sent two bears to chase down forty-two little kids and tear them limb from limb for just acting like kids. "What Would Jesus Do?" 

What Jesus actually did ( ie his recorded track record with little children), is found here:

Some people brought their children to Jesus so that he could bless them by placing his hands on them. But his disciples told the people to stop bothering him.
    When Jesus saw this, he became angry and said, "Let the children come to me! Don't try to stop them. People who are like these little children belong to the kingdom of God.  I promise you that you cannot get into God's kingdom, unless you accept it the way a child does." Then Jesus took the children in his arms and blessed them by placing his hands on them.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2010:13-16;&version=46;

_{and if you disbelieve this story as a fabrication , then you should also disbelieve the one about Elijah too. Since its only recorded in the bible and nowhere else}

This is the code Elijah's action was based on:

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21

He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. -- Exodus 21:15

He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17

_{found in skepticsannotatedbible.com}

Unfortunately, there's no way around the fact that the old testament law is one of quick judgment. Even today many societies still practice this form of moral code, without apology. There are countries where beheadings are perfectly legal, and other places where the issue of honor is taken very seriously, and people have been known to kill their family members for besmirching the family name.

Back then, if even parents could cause their own children to be put to death, how much more a stranger. Some might consider issues like abortion to be the modern equivalent nowadays.



Just the other day I saw a video on the web that was so sickening that I couldnt watch it. An Amazon tribe deep in the jungle, routinely buries alive young babies and children, and someone filmed it and posted the footage on the web. These kind of things used to be accepted parts of many cultures everywhere.

When such things are routine and accepted in a society, that society is labelled primitive and uncivilized. And comparing the actions of people during dark ages, to their actions thousands of years later when their morality must have changed somewhat, is rather far fetched.

Lots more that could be said but I'll stop here.

sometimes it does and sometimes it doesnt.

It depends on what context and who is talking (which way are they biased).

some of Huxley's topics are very interesting. I'm not too familiar with what he posts, but he seems to be an evolutionist and general doubter of Christianity.

Right now I'm checking out his thread about Elijah, the bears and the children (killing in the name of religion), and I find it very interesting.

His pointing out things like these is actually forcing me to examine some of them more critically and I'm getting a better understanding of the context though there's still much to be learned.

@ poster: why post your complete information on the web nah? I don't understand that part oh.

Unless your girlfriend is also on Nairaland sha, and this is your Dear John/Joanna letter.



You might also want to try standard dating sites, if you're serious about all this. 

As a geophysicist, you can also try applying for a master's degree abroad, though your finances might not be looking too good at the moment. But never say never.

RIP.

the news reports said their wives and children were escorted to the execution site?

I wonder why. Were they flown over from Nigeria to watch them die, or are the families Indonesian.

Very sad. Drugs can kill in more ways than one.

I don't know anything that can drag my legs to that Indonesia even as a vacation spot. Wasnt that the same place where over 10,000 people died in a tsunami?

make them release chloroform into the audience.

people will faint.

The setting is 1920s Louisiana.  The princess was originally cast as a maid, but later changed to a princess maybe after doing some market surveys.

The storyline will probably be African American, not directly African.

Louisiana has a rich culture anyway. So there should be plenty of themes and material to use.

I think the movie may appeal more to an African American audience, rather than an African one.

landis:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7477101.stm


Let see what FG would do about this.

We should immediately cut all ties with INDONESIA

We should send travel warning to Nigerians: If you have Nigerian passport, don't go INDONESIA.

We should set-up 'NGO', and use this as proxy to do all the dirty war.

We should place SANCTION on them and bully all AFRICAN countries to follow; they need our money, banks etc.

We should have ENEMY ACT' bill, and put such country on the LIST

We should have PARENT/FRIEND LIABILITY bill; parents/friends are also partly responsible. It becomes criminal offence if you know your friend is doing this and you don't report it.

We must put these COUNTRIES under consistent pressure.

The two people were executed and you see it as a joking matter? Na wa for you oh.








anyway, the Nigerian govt appealed for clemency in may this year, to no avail.

http://odili.net/news/source/2008/may/31/5.html

THE Federal Government has appealed to the Republic ofIndonesia to temper justice with mercy and halt the planned execution of two Nigerians held on allegation of drug trafficking in that country.

As at press time, the names of the two Nigerians were not made available.

The government made the appeal in Abuja yesterday when the Indonesian Ambassador, Nurhadi Djazuli, paid an official visit on the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Chief Ojo Madueke.

Madueke said Nigeria condemns any form of law breaking by its citizens anywhere in the world but called on the government of Indonesia to

Commute the charges and give room for their rehabilitation back home in Nigeria.

While stating that Nigeria was not in a position to pass comment or judgment on any country that imposes the death penalty on drug trafficking, Maduekwe appealed to the Indonesian President to

commute the sentences in the spirit of the over 50 years of diplomatic relations between the two countries.

The minister used the opportunity to also admonish Nigerians living in other countries to obey the laws of their host countries, stressing: "If you go to countries that have death sentence for drug trafficking, you have to realise that you don't violate the laws of these countries".

He noted that there has been a breakdown of family values leading to the collapse of morals in the traditional and religious systems.

Maduekwe disclosed that the ministry was collaborating with other stakeholders with cognate experience to embark on a sensitization workshop to educate Nigerians on the dangers of engaging in unwholesome activities in foreign countries.

The workshop will be used to appeal to Nigerians to always be law abiding when they travel out of the country.

He challenged leaders at all community levels to address the issues of drug trafficking, prostitution and financial fraud.

Though knowing Landis and other bad belle people like him on nairaland, they're probably popping champagne in celebration of the execution.

I read the Narnia books along with Enid Blyton as a kid, and watched the BBC narnia series as well. I was so surprised Disney decided to make the first movie and even more surprised they did Prince Caspian. So anyway I'll collect both ( I already have the first one).

I always felt it would be difficult to do justice to the books, in a movie. They did try with the first one, though it could have been shorter. Pretty impressive, however.

The first Incredible Hulk movie didnt quite measure up to the tv series, in my opinion.
This one may be better, since most of the reviews have been positive ones.
But why are the Hulks looking more and more inhuman? The one in the tv series looked somewhat "softer" than these CGI hulks, if you know what I mean. I'll try to catch this new one though.


Currently watching Doctor Zhivago _(piecemeal). I want to see why its considered an all-time classic.

Disney has cast every race except the black one in most of their Princess movies.

Its about time they had a black princess. The problem is can they portray her in a culturally sensitive way that wont antagonize or be offensive to blacks (or any race). The black princess will also have to be acceptable to non-blacks, ie someone they can identify with. Its a tricky situation, as they could loose money if they arent careful.

Even Tarzan (one of my favorite Disney movies by the way), was set in Africa but had white main characters. I don't have a problem with that though. The movie is good, whichever way you look at it.

The Lion King (another classic), also set in Africa, had no humans at all.


The list of Disney princesses so far:

Snow White - (white) Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
Cinderella - (white) Cinderella (1950)
Aurora (white)  Sleeping Beauty (1959)
Ariel ( white) The Little Mermaid (1989)
Belle  ( white)  Beauty and the Beast (1991)
Jasmine (Arab)  Aladdin (1992)
Pocahontas (American Indian) Pocahontas (1995)
Mulan (Asian/Chinese)




The movie title has been changed from The Frog princess to The Princess and the Frog.  I think this will also be the first time a black actress will feature as the main character in a Disney princess movie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Tiana

http://www.eonline.com/gossip/planetgossip/detail/index.jsp?uuid=32acc85e-a531-4ba2-93d6-650ee3432d89#commentstart

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Princess_and_the_Frog



come to think of it, there's never been a black prince either. Even Rodger & Hammerstein's Cinderella with Brandy as the princess, and Whitney Houston as the fairy godmother, had a Filipino prince, not a black one. 

can somebody please tell me what's the problem with people eating corn? Why is that photo being used to bash Nigeria (as usual)?

Is it because the corn sellers arent white/Arab guys selling suya/kebab in the hot sun on New York streets, that its a bad thing?

stupidity knows no bounds, does it.

In New York, roadside vendors sell everything from suya to hotdogs to soft drinks, but I don't hear any daft Nigerian bushwhacker looking down on them because of it. Indeed, they will even consider themselves blessed to be able to buy these things from the street sellers.

Common sense is indeed uncommon.

I think we should leave Abuja (and the fine places in Nigeria) for foreigners to appreciate and buy.

many Nigerians only want to see Nigerian slums- those are the only places where they can feel comfortable, it seems. They're not used to luxury and have no chance of living a good life inside Nigeria.

If you're Nigerian ( especially one living outside the country), abeg, these photos no be Abuja oh. Na Nairobi kenya and South Africa.

From what I've heard, before oil was discovered the naira used to be stronger than the dollar.


abi na lie my elders dey talk?

seriously, at what level is something considered free speech and at what level is it treason?

Is the Nigerian SSS sleeping?

Some of those slum areas will make for good development property when Lagos begins to run out of land.

In developed countries like the US, ghetto areas of town are sometimes cleared out to make way for new development and when they want to upgrade a place. Happens all the time.

If some people here can begin to name their local governments and home towns, maybe the slums can be relocated to those areas, since thats all they ever want to see.

my goodness!

that one fit rape one unlucky woman for night oh.

e go just catch am unawares like that.

@ Exponent aka mutated experiment: as to that thread of yours which got deleted, ( the one where you were cussing out Nigerians with your dirty mouth). Seriously, if I had descended on you in that thread, you'd regret being born black, for real. You'd have wished you had a white daddy and pure white ancestry.


You're so lucky I just didnt have your time yesterday.

if una wan get problem with my grandpa and all the countless other octogenarians wey dey kampe for village with no hypertension unlike una, what of even OBJ sef who una dey abuse everyday.  The guy never die.

Adedibu sef live reach 80 in spite of all the bad wishes and curses rained on him.

All your abuse isnt changing anything about the country or its leaders.

But it could be worsening your own health though.

Thats life.

as for me and my 40 acres and a mule, I have plenty of Nigerian role models I look up to, who have done likewise. I know a millionaire today who used to have only two shirts to his name, at one time. he has never travelled out of Nigeria in his life.

I'm not in Nigeria, but I wont lie and say there's no stress in other countries too. Different location, different problem.

If it's not Nigeria, it's Africa.

If it's not Africa, its the country of residence.

if its not one thing, its the other.

Nigerians are chronic complainers, for sure.

Nothing is ever done right anywhere. especially not in Nigeria or Africa. According to them. The political section of nairaland alone, look how many threads whining and complaining about Nigeria. Is it any wonder other countries are also starting to get irritated when they see Nigerians. 419 don get comma, now its something else.

Are any of you even better than these leaders you're always abusing sef.


The Old Man and the Donkey

http://i.cs.hku.hk/~bruce/bess52.html

It was a bright sunny morning in a mountain village.  An old man and his grandson were going to the market in the large town in the valley to sell a donkey.  The donkey was beautifully groomed and brushed and they set off happily down the steep path.  In a while they passed some people lounging by the side of the path.

"Look at that silly pair!" said one of the onlookers.  "There they go scrambling and stumbling down the path, when they could be riding comfortably on the back of that sure-footed beast."

The old man heard this and thought it was right.  So he and the boy mounted the donkey, and thus continued their descent.

Soon they passed another group of people gossiping by the wayside. "Look at the lazy pair, breaking the back of that poor donkey!"

The old man thought they were right, and since he was the heavier, he decided to walk while the boy rode.

In a little while they heard more comments. "Look at that disrespectful child - he rides while the old man walks!"

The old man thought they were right, and it was only proper that he should ride while the boy walked.

Sure enough, they soon heard this: "What a mean old man, riding at his ease while the poor child has to try to keep up on foot!"

By this time the old man and the boy were becoming increasingly bewildered. When they finally heard the criticism that the donkey would be all worn out and no one would want to buy him after the long walk to the market, they sat down, dejected, by the side of the road.

After the donkey had been allowed to rest for a while, they continued the journey, but in a completely different manner.  Thus it was, later that afternoon, that old man and the boy were seen gasping breathlessly into the market.  Slung on a pole between them, hung by his tied feet, was the donkey!



As Aesop said, "You can't please everyone.  If you try, you lose yourself."

davidylan:
tpia just give us the mules and we will never complain again.
The roads we have are just about good enough for mules . . . thank goodness mules don't need NEPA to run.

the 40 acres and a mule are my own idea of how to cope with the Nigerian situation. it may work for me, but not for you.

if you're too disgusted by the country I 've made my own suggestion.

Of course people should complain, but complaining all the time every single minute of the day, is irritating.

Nigeria no good, Nigeria no good, are you saying you're also no good, since its still Nigeria that produced you. Or are you a miracle that came out of no-good Nigeria.



abeg I'm out jo. Continue with your Nigeria bashing- afterall thats why the thread was started.

Its a free world.

4 Play:


This your post,na wa.Its a bit like saying that since you know of a chain-smoking octogenarian,we shouldn't continue beating the drums on the dangers of smoking.

Sometimes it all about attitude?Tell that to the thousands of Nigerians who have died because they couldn't afford basic medical care.Just look at the high rates of infant mortality,maybe some of those infants had attitude problems.

Too much complaining can affect your health? Presumably,bottling our emotions inside is very helpful to our health.

yes, the chain smoking octogenarian may have a better attitude than the anal retentive teetotaller.


Nigeria isnt the only country with children in dire need of healthcare. Neither is Nigeria the only country with negativity.

Just today, here's a report on some kenyan kids:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080624/ap_on_re_af/kenya_children_in_crossfire

Now, please show me a kenyan site where kenyans are cursing and abusing their country the way Nigerians do theirs.



another example from Ghana:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7115662.stm- is this

http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/diaspora/artikel.php?ID=141505

http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/diaspora/artikel.php?ID=141505&comment=0#com

abeg if una no like Nigeria renounce your citizenship. Thats not hard to do, and will be evidence you're really fed up with the place.

Otherwise can we please hear something else.

your own complaining, kobojunkie, needs a medical diagnosis.

davidylan:
40 acres and a mule to do what?
A mule will provide electricity, water, good roads, affordable medical coverage and pay your bills?

all of my grandparents lived to well over 80 years. They were farmers living in the village.

On the other hand, many of my relatively wealthy and educated relatives died before they were 70. Go figure.

Sometimes its all about attitude.

too much complaining can even affect your health. Releasing a bunch of stressful hormones into your bloodstream.

so if a Ghanaian, Zimbabwean, Belarussian, South African or Antartican says the thieves in their country are all Nigerians, that's gospel truth, abi?

If Nigerians no dey there, nobody will steal, abi?

Even countries with say only two Nigerians in the entire population, maybe its those two Nigerians who are committing all the crimes there?


Is it any wonder Dr Watson is so convinced Blacks have low IQ. His assistants must be checking some posts/posters on nairaland and giving him feedback.

if there's one thing Nigerians excel at, its complaining and negativity, for real.


The loudest whiners about Nigeria are the ones outside the country.

I'm also a Nigerian in Diaspora. I see it as a serious waste of time to continually whine about the country as if I receive money for doing so. maybe some do, but i dont.

Anyone who resides outside Nigeria and is fed up with Nigeria, SHOULD RENOUNCE THEIR NIGERIAN NATIONALITY.

That way you dont have to bother yourself with whatever is happening in Nigeria. Its not by force to be Nigerian abeg.

that's the way I see it.

all this whining is annoying.

una no dey Nigeria, una still dey complain. What of the ones who are actually living there- wetin you want make them do? They dont even gripe about the country as much as Nigerians in the so-called diaspora.

then you start crying whenever the western media repeats what you're saying. Make I hear word jare. I cant spend my own life fixating on the state of Nigeria. All I ask for is 40 acres and a mule and I'm good to go. If I go my village them go dash me that one. Even my mama village sef go dash me.

I'm not trying to compete with Bill gates and neither do I need 50 cars and 200 room mansions. shior.

@gbengaijot

seriously, that Blackpool resemble Nigeria no be small.

You say that's the UK?





@ kathyekiti: very interesting perspective.

I'm sure some will still prefer their touch not my anointed universal answer to every question, though.

EXPONENT:
Sure,

I've met Africans all the time. for some reason, I'm in an AFRICAN urban zone.

Two nigerians I met said they were from Cameroon.

As I was outside talking to one Nigerian, I'mentioned that (insert name here) said he's from Cameroon.

The Nigerian dude got offended and said 'HE'S FROM BENIN" I said oh, he's from the other side of Nigeria.

He said NO! He's from Benin, Nigeria - he lied to you.

********************************


Why would he lie about his place of birth?

MAYBE HE DOESNT LIKE OR TRUST YOU!!

how is it your business where he comes from? Maybe the guy knows you, and if you're anything in real life like the way you portray yourself on nairaland, then I can't say I blame him.

He should have even said Equatorial Guinea.

Like its your business.


@ exponent

Naturally Nigerians would attack the messenger INSTEAD of the issue.

That speaks of internal guilt.

no, it doesnt speak of internal guilt. You consider yourself a messenger of what exactly?

You have serious personal issues, and are trying to psych up yourself by bashing Africans on an African site.

The time you spend wondering about red eyes, mouthing nonsense everywhere and generally displaying your lack of manners, would probably be better utilized learning from these very Africans you're badmouthing.

how did i miss this thread?


In the US, mexican refried beans is something like ewa agonyin,though it doesnt quite taste the same.

The difference might be the pepper sauce and the method of cooking. The Nigerian version tastes better, i think.

i tried the canned variety once and didnt like it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refried_beans

http://www.goya.com/english/products/product.html?prodCatID=1&prodSubCatID=3

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070126161913AAxlmvf

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061110192323AAdVIAq

http://www.flickr.com/photos/63691316@N00/377717774/


https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/L-C-R/Korea/Blog/Sept07077.jpg

as a matter of fact, van Vicker shouldnt even be compared with wentworth.

A better comparison would be wentworth vs this jensen Ackles whose picture someone posted here.

Van Vicker is definitely better looking than wentworth. He's just not a Hollywood star, thats all.

Now if its comparing Van Vicker with say mel jackson or Shemar Moore, I'd be confused.

just my opinion oh.





mel jackson

https://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j268/BeautyGlow88/mel-sidebar.jpg

shemar moore
https://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj149/MARCHEL79/shemar_moore_03.jpg