₦airaland Forum

Mpele:
Let us deal with real issue. World Cup has nothing to do with Xenophobia. I know that there is lot of resentment towards South Africa and its citizens even before these attacks. Many of you have always had natural hatred for South Africa. Let us not use these attacks as a justification for your hatred.

Mpele:
Apartheid was bad but at least there level of crime was low, there was no electricity powercuts and we didn't have so many illegal immigrants. We wouldn't have such problems now if we had a white president or Mandela was still the president. Our borders were opened and South Africans were not warned that the whole of Africa is coming this side. You must understand that many South Africans don't know anything about Africa. They don't even know where is Nigeria located or Ghana or Egypt. They actually don't give a damn about Africa. Ask any South African teenager about Africa you'll be horified. The government should have taught our people about Africa and Africans in general.

Mpele:
Yes I think that it was necessary for me to do that because some Morpheus said that the world cup must be taken away from us. South Africa earned this world cup. It was not given to us like Germany. We earned the right to host it through sheer hardwork. Just because some morons decide to beat up people the your some insane Nigerian thinks that the world cup must be taken away from us hell no!! Countries like America that wiped out Vietnamesse hosted the world cup in 94. Germany that wiped out more than a million Jews hosted the world cup in 1974 and 2006, did your people complain NO! Just because some Nigerian illegal immigrant was beatern up in Johannesburg you now think that the World Cup must be taken away from us. Its high time Nigerians realises that their voices don't hold water anywhere. There is this underlying jelousy about South Africa from Nigerians.
Always wanting South Africa to fail. HANDS OFF THE WORLD CUP

Oscar J:
@tpia

sometime i wonder how some people think, can u please read the post again n again before posting please?

This guy says he is a shy person n he is asking if its possible for any girl to love him simple.

how can someone who is shy love 1st, where is the gut / confidence going to come from?

@mayorde

i think u should just try n build your confidence gradually, take your time on this just mix with ladies often ok.

1 more thing always ask yourself this qtion anytime ''WHAT WILL I DO IF I WERE'NT AFRAID?'' this is not only applicable to love matters alone ok, it works alot.

I am part of this.

Kobojunkie:
Thank you for that. I believe the African problem is we continue to approach issues from a sentimental angle without consulting reason to understand what the problem is and best possible solutions.

Tornadoz:
@OlowoTee
Abi o my sister. The whole agberos in Nigeria have traveled to SA to hustle and expect to be treated as kings. The killings, repugnant as it seems, should be a wake up call to us.

South Africa's government has pledged to protect foreigners threatened by a recent outbreak of violence that has forced 13,000 to flee their homes.

Officials also said the country would not deport illegal immigrants during the current period.

The attacks began a week ago north of Johannesburg, before spreading to the city and surrounding areas.

At least 23 people have been killed, and ministers have been discussing using troops to quell the violence.

On Tuesday police fired rubber bullets to disperse a crowd in one suburb during a crackdown on the violence

During a visit to a refuge for migrants in east Johannesburg, Minister for Safety and Security Charles Nqakula promised protection and temporary accommodation to foreigners.

He said there would be tough law enforcement and no more foreigners should be harassed.

His wife, Home Affairs Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula, said the government could not "be seen to be opportunistic".

"We cannot take advantage of people who are finding themselves in a state of vulnerability," he said.

"We have an obligation at this point in time to ensure that their lives are protected."



Officials have not ruled out deploying troops, as demanded by human rights groups and the opposition.

Gwede Mantashe, Secretary General of the ruling African National Congress (ANC), said that if the army was deployed, it would be to back up the police.




http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7411357.stm

Kobojunkie:
Should we make laws to criminalize xenophobia then so as to appease you ?? I have visited South Africa and my view remains same that this sort of thing is to be expected. We live in Africa. Look at the events of the past decade alone in Africa and you get a good idea of what and how people handle their fears and their issues. What these people did is atrocious but what do you think you can do about it ?? Go to war with South Africa?? Boast that you are better in treating your own than they are?? Sign petitions to have the people apologize to you I mean what exactly can you do about it?? Look at Zimbabwe. I read many of those who are now dead are Zimbabweans. Do you think Mugabe is out there telling Mbeki that he will close his borders if he, Mbeki, does not find a solution immediately? Do you think the congolese government, that is busy dealing with terrorists in it's own borders who comit the same acts daily are busy demanding answers from Mbeki?? The list goes on.

Xiomarra:
You that you are over there, what have you done to help yourself? Why are you looking for messiahs from abroad? Lazy thing! Or don't you know it would involve a lot of human sacrifice? Why don't you go first since you understand the system more than those abroad.

T[b]he best thing for those abroad to do is to stay abroad since they are not part of the bad eggs ruining the country.[/b] I for one will rather go to Iraq or Iran and die there!

If any of my relatives falls victim to a cannibals knife abroad, serves him or her right.  Nigeriana own too much.  Disgrace everywhere.  HABA!!!

Nigerians deserve what they get outside and inside Nigeria[b] because they are useless[/b]

It just shows you have not been in Nigeria for a while.  Go and travel on your roads and see countless dead bodies roasted along the way side from collisions of luxurious buses and stalled molues and make-shift 18-wheelers as death traps for unsuspecting motorists.  Go and see how many okada passagers convulse by the road sides daily as they are ejected from their seats to hit pavements with their heads. See blood gushing out like "ogbonor" soup from a human being's head. Yet one minister took like 300milllion Naira for transportation and an ugly incestous barrack ex-president cannot account for like 16 billion in his imaginary investing in "power" sector.

So why should I be moved by a burning flesh when I have seen worse.  How many times have my brothers and even sister carried dead bodies in my presence to hospitals only to watch people convulsing behind the car till they gave up the ghost while you so-called stupid police men are asking for "police reports" and most of the so-called doctors are in tombo bars fingering nurses with short skirts and dresses?

I say you are not serious at all.  Go to your country and see the real thing I say!

dee02:
I am not desperate dude and i am coming back home
I got nothing to worry about in Nigeria so KI NI BIG DEAL!

The question is would u like to go to HAITI You MUPPET?!

dee02:
Does any Nigerian want to migrate to HAITI?

I am the PA to Wyclef and he needs desperate Nigerians who would love to mop up a pensioner's shit and backside

Gauranteed: NO XENOPHOBIA!

dee02:
Ok does anyone remember when NIGERIA PACKED GHANIANS ONTO LORRIES AND TRUCKS LIKE SARDINES AND SENT THEM BACK TO ACCRA AND KUMASI?


Nigerians are accomodating and peaceloving


oh yes indeed they are!!


Go and ask KOFFI and NENE who were plucked violently while selling SWEET GHANA BREAD AND BONZ and loaded like cattles onward to ASHANTI LAND!

Irish immigration to Puerto Rico



In the 19th century, there was considerable Irish immigration to Puerto Rico, for a number of reasons.In Ireland during the 1840s, potato fungus created the Irish Potato Famine which killed over one million Irish people and created nearly two million refugees. These refugees went to the United States, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and, among other places, the Caribbean. One of the islands that many Irish emigrated to in large numbers was Puerto Rico

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_immigration_to_Puerto_Rico

In colonial times, the Irish population in America was second in number only to the English. Many early Irish immigrants were of sturdy, Scotch-Irish stock. Pushed out of Ireland by religious conflicts, lack of political autonomy and dire economic conditions, these immigrants were pulled to America by the promise of land ownership and greater religious freedom.

Most Scotch-Irish immigrants were educated, skilled workers

http://memory.loc.gov/learn/features/immig/irish.html

French Emigration
The French immigration to Puerto Rico during the 18th and 19th century came about as a result of various economic and political situations which occurred in Louisiana (USA), Saint-Domingue (Haiti) and in Europe

wiki

Cajuns (French: les Cadiens) are an ethnic group mainly living in Louisiana, consisting of the descendants of Acadian exiles and peoples of other ethnicities with whom the Acadians eventually intermarried on the semitropical frontier. Today, the Cajuns make up a significant portion of south Louisiana's population, and have exerted an enormous impact on the state's culture

British
In the early 1970s large numbers of British citizens emigrated, principally to Australia. By 1975 the numbers leaving the UK had reached 168,000 a year, although it then dropped back.

Until the mid 1980s, overall emigration from the UK was higher than immigration.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3982217.stm

Between 1815 and 1929, 11.4 million people left Britain for overseas destinations, part of a European wide phenomenon. Emigration was related to the growth of the international economy and emigrants invariably moved to places where they would expect to find an increase in their incomes. The main destinations for British and Irish emigrants were America and Canada, and later, Australia.

Liverpool
Liverpool was the primary port for emigration, some 60% of emigrants set out from there. The years 1847-1851 saw 2,769 passenger ships sail from Liverpool, carrying 765,159 passengers to ports worldwide. In The 100 years between 1830 and 1930, over a million emigrants passed through Liverpool to start new lives abroad.

Journey conditions
In the early days emigration was an option only for the desperate or very tough. There was little chance of returning home and postal communication was of a poor standard. The trip could take 35 to 40 days on average but up to twice as long in bad weather. Conditions on board were often horrific; especially travelling 'steerage' (the cheapest quarters), where malnutrition and disease were rife. In the earliest years emigrants literally camped between decks, sleeping on narrow wooden bunks. They provided and cooked their own food and took their own utensils and bedding. Washing and toilet facilities were minimal. There was almost no privacy and ventilation below deck was negligible. Regulations were gradually passed, however, to improve conditions. For example, in 1842 each passenger had to have at least 10 square feet of space between decks. In 1849 the food ration was to increase and in 1852 sickbays were to be provided. Unfortunately, government regulations for the inspection of emigrant ships were barely enforced because of the lack of officers, so the emigrant's journey often remained an extremely uncomfortable experience.

http://web.archive.org/web/20050816165707/http://www.lr.org/services_overview/shipping_information/is038immigration_emigration.htm

Seven Million Germans were once foreigners-German immigration to the US


http://www-lib.iupui.edu/kade/adams/chap1.html



why they left home


http://www-lib.iupui.edu/kade/adams/chap2.html

European Emigration studies

http://www.casahistoria.net/emigration.htm

Italian Diaspora

Interestingly, as the stock of Italian emigrants abroad increased, so did their remittances sent back home, thus encouraging further emigration, even in the face of factors that might logically be thought to decrease the need to leave (such as increased wages at home). This has been termed "persistent and path-dependent emigration flow"; that is, friends and relatives who leave first, send back money for tickets, and help relatives as they arrive. This tends to support an emigration flow since even improving conditions in the sending country (Italy) take a while to trickle down to potential emigrants to convince them not to leave.

A 1927 study by the Italian government estimated that there were some 9,200,000 living abroad—one fifth of the Italian nation lived abroad.

wiki

Portuguese Emigration

Portugal has long been a nation whose people emigrated. Socially significant emigration first occurred in the fifteenth century and sixteenth century during the great explorations. Although the Portuguese established trading posts at many places in Africa and Asia, Brazil was the main colony of settlement. Later, numbers of Portuguese settled in the African colonies of Angola and Mozambique.

Between 1886 and 1966, Portugal lost an estimated 2.6 million people to emigration, more than any West European country except Ireland.

The main motive for emigration, at least in modern times, was economic. Portugal was long among the poorest countries in Europe.
Brazil was the destination of choice.Despite occasional tensions between them and the Brazilians, the Portuguese saw Brazil as a land of the future with abundant land and jobs. Hence, about 30 percent of Portugal's emigrants settled there between 1864 and 1973. A final surge of Portuguese emigrants was caused by the Revolution of 1974, when an estimated 20,000 to 30,000 Portuguese associated with the former regime fled or were exiled to Brazil. According to government estimates, more than 1 million Portuguese were living in Brazil in the 1980s.

Emigration to North America was also intense. By the late 1980s, it was estimated that the number of Portuguese and persons of Portuguese descent living in this continent amounted to more than 1 million in the United States and 400,000 in Canada.

Portuguese emigration to the United States often involved whole families, rather than just the men.Another characteristic of the Portuguese migration to the United States was that many were fishermen from the Azores who came to work in areas offshore of New England. Others migrated from Madeira and São Tomé.

Portugal sought to fill up its vast African spaces with people. The state allowed prisoners to work off their sentences by settling in Africa,

http://countrystudies.us/portugal/48.htm

naijaking1:
Smart soldier, what a great way to get relief to go home for PTSD.

You see, when he looked at the book he really saw a dangerous Iraqi attacker coming towards him fast and furiously, so he shot him it.

The psychiatric management of that condition includes rest, therapy/counselling, and sometimes medications in that order.

savanaha:
Haha. I was laughing when they said it had happened before. What better way to get relief to go home?

he confessed that he was bipolar

then he began emailing me photos of his penis, saying that "If women could just SEE it first, then my height wouldn't be such a dealbreaker

(he) just doesn't understand that in THIS country, each generation recreates themselves, rather than trying to create some sort of class heirarchy by listing their parent's accomplishments

His username is "handleswell481": but trust me, he DOES NOT handle well on a date.

Don't date him, girl. Unless you're hot for bipolar,psychotic, dwarves!

If you have ever been to south africa at all you would know that crime rate is high with Nigerian immigrants in South Africa. It is not a secret at all as even I had to watch my self as a Nigerian in South Africa. Talk of drugs, prostitution, murder and you name it, many honest Nigerians in South Africa will tell you that Hillbrow is high crime area in Gauteng and Nigerians are notorious criminals in that area.

texazzpete:
@tpia
Where was it stated that 'people deserve to be killed because the Nigerian police is inefficient'?

brothers, we must not relent. I know that the people behind this are black, so are not as appealing a target as caucasians, but we must carry on the spirit of Boycott!

I appeal to all patriotic Nigerians to break their MTN lines in twain! Smash your DSTV decoders! Destroy all your old Chaka Chaka cds!

Say no to maltreatment of Nigerians! Even if it's by black people

Why demand an 'explanation' from Mbeki, when we cheerfully demanded 'compensation' from BA?