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toneyb:
I asked you a question and you said I should please start from there.

Without the bible as it is today () Christianity would have not survived. There were so many letters and most people wrote what they felt was right and passed it as the writings or the words of the apostles. Most were very much at odds with each other and were really a source of discord and disharmony example the gospel of peter, judas, clement, book of enouch, revelation of peter, book of mary magdalene. book of mary etc. The catholics did a good job because the choose the books that agreed with their theology, preserved it and presented it to the world as the christian book of god. There was no christian book of god only the jewish book of god(hebrew bible). There were only different letters that were in circulation.The catholics made the christian book of god.

is that what you believe? Especially the bolded.

Good luck to you then.

toneyb:
Where did the idea of a canon begin from? Since you disagree you then have to show that without the involvement and the idea of the Catholic bishops you would have had the 27 books of the new testament. Can you show me how what I have said is misplaced?

You are just going the extra mail to prove a non existent point. The ONLY reason you have a bible today is because some catholic bishops sat down and put it together, if they hadn't sat down and put it together there will be no bible. There was no bible during the time of Paul, the only scriptures available was the old testament which the christians now believe is invalid and whose must of its laws they believe does not apply to their faith.

Forging apostolic writings was a virtual cottage industry back then and they didn't have forensic science to detect forgeries. So they had to go on their gut when they made decisions until the catholci bishops decided to put a final vote on what they considered to be the word of god and what they considered was not the word of god.(the bible). The criteria the catholics used to determine if a gospel was written by an apostle consisted primarily of how much the gospel agreed with their own theological beliefs. And as a result, we get gospels in the canon that reflect the view of the group of christians(catholic) with the power and influence to force their choices.

The roman christians (catholics) were highly organized and well supported. Their influence spread throughout the rest of the christian world like no other could. They gave priests authority to quash any theological view they deemed heretical. Heretical views just happened to be any view they had decided were incorrect with no more authority than any other sect of Christianity.

what part of Jewish Torah are you not getting?

My point is without the New Testament there'll still be plenty of churches, since the early Christians didnt have a new testament in their own bible. Neither did Jesus.

Beaf:
, Just saw the advert again. It didn't have the "dark heart" phrase this time.

Good for them. Maybe people complained.

Not to say they wont do it again some other time though.

[quote author=~Lady~ link=topic=284000.msg4039977#msg4039977 date=1245193636]The Egyptian Coptic Church, and the Armenian Church are Catholics. The Greek Orthodox were Catholic until the schism in 1054. Maybe you need to do your own research.

The Catholic Church consists of 23 churches The Eastern churches are 22 and the Western Church. Do research and find the different rites in the church, it is too much to list here.[/quote]I really dont have to keep repeating myself.

i dont think we're on the same page.

And you need to go easy on the crusader mentality.

some of them may be using the original square maggi cube which is no longer fashionable, though I could be wrong.

It could also be the aji no moto. The thing is a health hazard but very tasty and economical.

Omenuko:
I should learn to acknowledge what, without feeling hurt?

Your response to faith69's post was inaccurate and misleading.  Did faith69 say all of the "Christian sects" (orthodox and heretic) were part of the Catholic Church?  No. . .what he posted was that the churches that you presented were all once part of the Catholic Church.

The person who created this thread said, "Don't let the Catholic Faith Deter You From the Christian Faith."  What the originator fails to understand is that the Christian faith is the Catholic Faith.  The Catholic Church is the original church.  The term 'Catholic' was the term the members of the early church used to distinguish between orthodox belief and heretical doctrine from pseudo-christian sects.  What the poster fails to understand is that the Catholic Church included all of the apostolic churches, such as the Roman/Latin, Russian, Greek, Coptic, Ethiopian, Syrian, Indian, etc.  And those orthodox churches that were not initially part of this Catholic Church had their leaders (aka Bishops) appointed by Catholics.  What the poster fails to understand is that the very Bible that he/she uses to better know and grow closer to God was assembled, compiled, and protected by bishops and priests of the Catholic Church.

So if you think about. . . .when Catholics hear things such as what the originator of this thread claims, it goes to show how ignorant and hypocritical many people are.  Talk less of being, anti-catholic.  How foolish can one be to believe that the originators of their Bible (the Bible was compiled some 300 years after the death of Christ) are not Christian?  Now, if the originator of this thread stated the reasons why Catholics are not Christians then he must prove it.  Nothing wrong with a healthy discussion.

before going off on a tangent, did you read my post #27 on this thread

tpiah:
there were other churches besides the ones I mentioned. Just not as well known.

and I believe my first post was a response to Jagunlabi or someone else. You might need to go back and read the thread from the beginning.

I dont like getting into eschatological arguments because they get too detailed and go offtopic.

But anyway, there were other churches besides the Catholic church. The Syrian church which I mentioned , claims to have been founded by Thomas in 52 AD. I doubt the Catholic church was an organization back then.

The Catholic church didnt preceed Constantine. However, many Christian groups did.

The accession of Constantine was a turning point for the Christian Church, generally considered the beginning of Christendom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_I_and_Christianity

me sef my ugliness no get equal. How can i change my west African gene.

However, since I dont have money for plastic surgery, I just manage what I have and focus on my other assets like getting quality hair and a good stylist.

abi how I for do.

Tisha313:
23 is my real age, and I live in the midwest.

well, you sound 13. Which state in the midwest if you dont mind my asking.

[quote author=IKEYMAN!!! link=topic=281546.msg4038257#msg4038257 date=1245173129]and tipia how do u know that?[/quote]because you they are?

duh.

Tisha which state are you from? And what's your real age?

anyway, even if people tell you you're ugly because of your "west African" features, I still fail to see why you're making it a big deal. Any guy who refuses to date you because he thinks you're not pretty enough for him, should keep walking, and that's all there is to it.

besides, it seems the problem is more with you than these others who you said told you you dont look American.

Beauty and ugliness are in the eye of the beholder sometimes.

CyberG:
Poster. . .

2. If I typed any URL into your browser that has `NIGERIA` as part of the website name, it is blocked from my computer (even a newspaper website). I know what happened but who do you question about it?

what kind of browser are you using?

I type Nigeria in my own browser all the time and have never had a problem.

CyberG:
3. You even meet a nice lady and she`s so into you. . .drop the name Naija. . .and she`s gone. . .LOL (Well, some will go but NOT all will just because of that). If you`ve got a real foreign accent, they may not believe it. . .and even ask if you are serious. . .like asking you: `Really. . .?`.

do you have any words of advice for those of your naija brothers who have used, abused and embittered these ladies?

Tisha313:
what do you mean stop worrying about it? this affects my life. you tell me that aas think I am ugly and I am supposed to be all right with that

when you look in the mirror, do you see an ugly person?

ok: you are beautiful- tell yourself that.

Tisha313:
yes I am serious. Who wants to be told that they are seen as ugly by their own people? Damn is this supposed to make me feel good about myself. I am s itting here in tears over this

seriously, lighten up.

Its not a big deal.

Africans are called ugly all the time- it doesnt mean they actually are. In any case, it doesnt always matter!

na BaridBoolan call am ugly oh

seriously, you've got to be kidding.

In any case, see a therapist if this issue bothers you so much. Stop worrying about people's opinion of your looks. Sometimes its not that important!

are you serious.

well, I cant really relate because I'm a typical west African with the usual features but I've still been toasted by various AA dudes. Hence my opinion.


Maybe I just never bothered about the ones who might have felt I was too "African/ugly" for them? I seriously dont know because I cant remember ever meeting anyone who gave me that impression.

I think a lot depends on your personal attitude. People cant make you feel inferior if you dont let them.

since your question is for AA guys, you may want to talk to your AA brothers Hero/KB1 and Mandingo so they can give you the 411 on what goes these days.

So far its only Africans on this thread but you say its AAs who are calling you ugly.

Fhemmmy:
Well said, but how easy we can shake things off is not same.

ok!

She can continue feeling depressed then.

Tisha313

depends on where you're from.



Is this the kind of look you're feeling is African:

    https://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6118/aemmittt.jpg

I dont think I even understand the OP.


Tisha313 :

do you mean AA guys avoid you and you think its because you look west African?

Or are you saying they avoid you because you're dark skinned? Meaning you feel they prefer the lighter skinned ladies. Unlike Obama.

I know a few west Africans who are married to AA guys so I dont quite catch your drift.

switosman:
pls will everybody on this thread keep quite.


the key and the key hole which should feel superior?

the finger that soot the etching ear which enjoys the contact?

a guy dont feel anything close to superior it happens he got egos

Isnt a key useless without a keyhole, to use your own analogy. abi wasnt a key expressly made for a keyhole?


which finger is soothing which itching ear? Unless the woman is the finger and you're the itching ear

No be both of una dey itch?

Omenuko:
@tpiah


His points still stands. . . .the Ethiopian, Coptic, and Armenian churches were all at one point part of the Catholic Church.  What is more telling than even this is that the beliefs/dogmas/doctrines of all of the apostolic churches (including the above Chaldean Syriach Church) are pretty much the same.  The main thing that separates us is unity with the pope.  They believe in, 'the real presense of Christ in the Eucharist', 'the sacrements', 'prayer to the saints', 'apostolic succession', and understand and accept what is meant by the title, 'Mary mother of God (theotikos), etc. 

Although we (all of the apostolic churches) may not all be in communion with the Pope of Rome, our beliefs and way of worship are essentially the same.  These churches did not pick of the Bible yesterday and foolishly believe and proclaim that it came down whole and intact from heaven; the way these 'born again' churches do.  They know the history of the Bible and how it came to be.

as I said before, the churches in my post he quoted, were [b]example[/b]s and not meant to serve as a comprehensive list.

Kindly note that. There are many more and no, not every church was at one time or another affiliated with a mother church somewhere.

learn to acknowledge this without feeling hurt.

seriously, how can you be superior to something you know you cant do without?

The woman's dashdash holds the key to your sense of well being- so how are you superior to what controls you?

Ijawman:
I hear you are the rat-in-chief around here. Just do not rat on me, or,

I'm not the one claiming various tribes like some homeless orangutan.

Fhemmmy:
I am referring to your " I dont see what moaning will achieve here" in your previous post.
BTW i wasnt attacking u.

well, I dont see what moaning over it is supposed to achieve, thats all.

Stuff happens. Shake it off and move on.

The same customer will be praising Nigeria to the high heavens if they offer him some contracts there.

Kobojunkie:
Unfortunately, things are not as easy when wearing the "Nigerian" badge. I notice people from other nationalities do not get the same stare I do when I mention where I am from. Some poeple politely say something like "You ascent seems different" but you can easily figure out that the expression on their faces tells a different story. Roflmao!!!

it depends.

Some people also give you the funny stare because your naija brothers used them for green card then went home and brought over another wife.

Fhemmmy:
u mean oh

am I the one scamming people?

Why are you attacking me and ignoring the actual 419ers?

Or is it all a big lie being told on Nigerians?

ayomifull:
Now as if that is not enough while just getting over that sad incidence i just called klm to pay for a reservation i did online yesterday topay over the phone the agent i spoke with ''kindly'' told me it is not possible to pay for this flight over the phone but directly on their desk at the airport. I should not have asked why because the answer to my why added to my problem the agent said 'because Lagos is a fraud destination and we have credit card fraud at the moment''

Now i know there is problem with this name and i dont find it funny.

at least she added "at the moment".

so you didnt know your countrymen and women have given the name a problem before?

In any case, I dont see what moaning will achieve here?

proudly9ja:
I wonder how come some of us don't see what the poster is trying to say. To be honest, even I won't give my credit card details to a Nigerian over the phone!!! only in cases where the person in question is my friend ad even at that, I have to be careful.

thank you. I myself have been scammed by fellow Nigerians before and likewise many of my friends and relatives have experienced the same.

People suppose shine eye.

However, the man is stupid because some other nationality or even someone from his backyard can also scam him. That's why he should have just faced his debt payment unless he's been 419ed by a Nigerian before.

If I'm Nigerian and working at a reputable finance organization, I expect any customer who is worried about being scammed, to check with the manager or superviser instead of acting local.

Ijawman:
Our news is already available:MEND and oil and the military. I suppose that is enough to keep you guys busy. So we hunt for news from other regions. Besides, we Ijaws are so good that we are hardly in the news for bad reasons.

good for you!

Keep telling yourself you're Ijaw and dont forget to knock your maryjanes together at the same time.

So many things going on.

The other day BBC ran an article about two white Dutchmen who worked as gas(petrol) station attendants during a tour of Nigeria.


maybe they're trying to start the revolution our comfortable Nigerian diaspora keeps harping on.

We all know nothing happens until the white man gives the signal.

I think I'm going to take a chance on Transformers 2.

The special effects in the first one were great.