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Fujiyama:


Aren't Nigerians fed up with being taken for fools, day after day, week after week, month after month? When will they say, 'enough'?

never! 2023 has shown me everything I need to know about this country and majority of its people.

Zahra29:
Fair enough, at least you're being true to your beliefs. It's when people "hail" a country over others, but would never choose to live in said country that I think there's an element of cognitive dissonance going on lol

As long as you're happy with the bolded and having no voice to effect change, but as you've rightly said, perhaps autocracy is the best system for certain countries and peoples.

already used to not having a voice to effect change in Nigeria. The voice don dey rusty. Ko ni meaning mo🤣

Kenn55:
It is you that should think without bias. If you are rational, you should have known that Putin and Russia are no saints, they are as bad as the US and west. You should have known that Russia is also seeking to dominate like the US. You should have known that Russia is also looking out for it's own selfish interest like all world powers do.

Every bad thing you have against the west is also applicable to Russia. US and its allies invade countries for their selfish interests, Russia does the same. Since 2000, US has invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, Russia has invaded Georgia and Ukraine. Russia has been sponsoring breakaway rebels in Georgia, Maldova, Ukraine etc to declare kangaroo independence yet Putin is your Angel and you wipe away his sins.

All world powers are bad players. But at least in the west, no leader is "god", they can be challenged and removed by the people unlike your Angelic country Russia. In the west, Opposition is strong putting check on government to behave themselves. In the west, Oposition has power, media has power, legislators have power, courts have power, civil society have power the people have power, it is never a one man show.

Putin came to power in 1999 when Bill Clinton and Obasanjo was in power. He has succeeded in making Russia a one man country where he is "god". He has changed Russia constitution 3 times since 1999, the last one being last year to give himself another 12 years in power. Russians can't talk, if you talk, you chop poison, fall from high rise, rot in jail if you are lucky or your plane gets shot down.

Do you know how many Putin's opposition and critics Saint Putin and his gang have eliminated since 1999 by poisoning and throwing them down from high rise buildings?

Will you be happy if Nigeria adopt the Russian model? Tell yourself the truth for once.
As we speak, Russians can't call Ukraine war a war publicly, they passed a law criminalizing calling it war. Imagine a government making it a crime to judge for yourself how you see things. Russians no longer have independence of thought, they have to be told what and how to think by force because one man cannot afford to be criticized. I just hope this Saint Putin Russian model nonsense is not what you guys are wishing for Nigeria to become. God forbid!
By the way, I'll take Tinubu and Nigeria over Putin and Russia, you can put your money where your mouth is by relocating to Moscow and not living in the freedom loving west and still talking nonsense. Mtshewwwww

check am bro, Russia invaded Georgia and Ukraine correct...but both countries and Russia historically were all brothers that once shared landmass. Which landmass US share with Afghanistan and Iraq? Lati odindin US of A dem cross all the way to the middle East to find trouble. You sef check am na

As to your question, if we can find an autocratic leader that is that passionate about Nigeria, passionate about making it formidable abeg I no mind. I will take a wild guess and say you emigrated too, like most on here, evidence that the democratic dispensations since Obasanjo has only left us with the worst of us leading us almost always, while Nigeria constantly sinks. They win, Nigeria lose. I would def wholly accept a diff approach, even an autocrat. Thank you

Orisa bi o gbemi, at least fi mi le bi o se bami👌

Again, like I told Zahra, aside the language speaking barrier, I could live in Russia. I have two pals there and they are balling. Enjoying same world-class infrastructure, are married to beautiful women, and have beautiful kids. Russians largely love Putin. I wouldn't live in the US if I could live in Norway. For those who still have it in them to learn a new language, countries yapa, Russia included, where you can move to and live super fine. All this Canny, USA, Aussie and UK most naturally throng to, na cos the language is English. No be say other places no dey viable.

Lexusgs430:
So nah only oyinbo wife, dey enter your eyes.......😁🤔😜

bro, awon obinrin yen fine e jo. Ha!

Zahra29:
I hear you...it's all subjective....

To each their own.....at the end of the day, perhaps "good Vs evil" could be decided by the country one would live in if they had to choose....."innocent, misunderstood Russia" or " evil, aggressor US"....I think we can safely guess lol

I swear down aside the language barrier, I no mind living in Russia or other Nordic countries than the US oo. I have two friends who went to study there and have remained there for over 15 years and they are balling. If you see both their wives ehn, you would never believe that a black/Nigerian could score such women, as in gorgeous model spec women oo. Also, I know damn well my kids won't come back from school to tell me there are 100 genders, or that the definition of a woman is debatable 🤣

As long as I don't challenge Putin, I'm sure I'll be just fine. I am a freethinker o, so nothing says democracy is the best, or autocracy is evil. I believe in situational leadership. Autocracy is working wonders for China and Russia, and democracy is the bane of Nigeria. Go figure

Zahra29:
Well said....people painting Russia as the victim is laughable. The US isn't innocent/perfect sure, no country is. But we're talking about a "man" who was behind the shooting down of a full passenger plane, killing 300 innocent civilians. A "man" whose political opponents meet untimely deaths both in Russia and overseas...anyone remember Livitneko who was poisoned and killed in a UK hospital in 2006....and attempted murders of other russian nationals a few years ago in Salisbury....on and on it goes, but somehow he's the aggrieved party ....it's true that some people love a dictator

zahra wey dey always dey on point! 😁

I was gonna respond on the shooting down of a passenger plane comment, but I realised I need to read more on the incident. I only know both the Soviet Union and the US shot down fully loaded passenger planes in 1983 and 1988 respectively. I also know that unlike Russia, the USA has been at the forefront of instigating crisis in several countries to further their own interests in the last 30 years. Talk about murdering millions not even due to direct confrontation/provocation o but under claims of a search for weapons of mass destruction only to find none. That def is far more cold than shooting down ten Boeing aircrafts.

All those poland, Finland no interest Russia, Ukraine is historically and strategically relevent to Russia, and to the WEST/US cos of its 'valuable resources'. Let the North Atlantic respect the East. The east isn't the one encroaching and encircling the west, the west is the one doing all that....to what end??

Dude threw his career away for pussy.....lol🤣🤣🤣

One mummy was telling me on Sunday how she fears what will happen to Oyo state after Seyi Makinde exits.

Now I understand her fear. Shey we fit see person wey get sense and empathy like that again true true. This balablu idiot was on on the ballot in 2019. Thank God he was roundly rejected!

toughest007:
Baba, it's not a 'choosing a side thing', it's basic statistics... The US has its footprint on EVERY wahala on earth and beyond.

How many countries have Russia invaded and bombed since the collapse of the Soviet Union as against the US since WW II?

Which countries have Russia instigated insurrections and sponsored coups as against the US?

How many people have died from Russian bombs as against the US?

We know who the bully and aggressor is... QED

GBAM! Lobatan o
The US/NATO is the aggressor, and had been for the last 30 years at least. Ain't no way I can ever see Russia as the aggressor when the only time in the last 30 years they have been 'the aggressor' is in movies.

If Ukraine like make dem get sense, if dem like make dem no get brain. Na dem and their people go lose, while US/NATO/the west loses nothing.

Talk about being foolish.

Oh oh!

Alas, it was on their very own website that this is a fresh loan, but a certain nairalander called SEUNMSG who has a reputation for not knowing his right from his left, said it was accrued interest.

What's more befuddling is he did so with no proof whatsoever, and no mention of the other relevant parameters ie.
the interest rate, the total sum, the tenor..that way at least even if he no get proof, we fit do simple calculations to know wassup.

Desist from drinking alcohol early in the morning as it affects cognitive function for the rest of the day, but iro oo dem no go hear.

Shioor

Same happened recently....

Oh! I remember! It happened during the gubernatorial election in Lagos state and that was allowed to stand, as would this.

'Sore losers'

🤣🤣🤣🤣

wallg123:
USA is and has always been the aggressor. Only USA is fighting China, same USA is arming Isreal to continue in her genocide, same USA is waging proxy war with Iran, North Korea and the list goes on and on…..he only country to have ever used Nuclear weapon on another country (Japan) is now the police of Nuke?.
who is really the aggressor …
The USA that cannot protect the lives of young black men in her own backyard.

people tend to look at Russia as the bad guys, yet Russia has not been at the forefront of crimes against humanity like the USA has done in the last 30 years, esp in Africa and the middle East.

Aside this conflict in Ukraine which has strong historical ties to Russia, which global wahala Russia don start in the last 30 years?

USA - Libya, Sudan, Iraq are very very recent and well documented, but somehow they are still the good guys and Russia na the bad guy.

wallg123:
It’s already a NATOs war and Russia is wining so far. Russia once liberated Europe from Nazi Germany and will do it again but this time from Nazi NATO…. Ukraine can never be the same again and they themselves are to blame for this….

America and Europe have broken every single treaty that they’ve been signatories to. They broken all known international laws to protect their lap dogs in the Middle East, Asia and Africa. So NATO has no right to police the rest of us

I totally agree with everything you have said so far on this Russia-Ukraine conflict. I can never side with the hypocritical west on this conflict. As you have already said, Ukraine is historically and strategically relevant to Russia.. And as long as we know for a fact that the US will do far far worse if the tables were turned and Russia seeks to make Mexico for example an ally, then ko s'oro mehn.

Eventually selebobo will get tired of his folly and retrace his steps, cos even his backers don dey tire, with Israel-Hamas tensions now in the mix.

The aim of Russia has been achieved either way, we all know Russia can def keep this going, and it is quite easy to guess who/which side will fold first

seunmsg:
Mr Educated man, so 3.8T is 50% of N23T, right?

it isn't. I dey wonder the kin Interest rate na why I pick 50% for a start.

Na you know the total duration/tenor of the loan, the total cumulative amount borrowed, and the applicable interest rate agreed upon. Abeg tell us, so that we know you didn't drink Kai Kai when you woke up this morning.

sammy329:
Omo this thing pain me ooo!!!

The PDP thugs chased people away, and specifically said that "If you are voting APC go away". Even in the presence of police officers.

That's the naija way innit...

Same happened in the Lagos gubernatorial elections to the delight of many. It's all good💯👏

seunmsg:
lol. Illiterates everywhere. The ways and means Buhari did is a loan repayable by FG with interest. If FG is not servicing the interest, the loan keeps increasing whether new loan was taken or not. The increment in the last 6 months is the accumulated interest and not a new loan

hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

3.8trillion is the accrued interest payable?? Was the interest rate around 50%?. Would love to see that MOU. Revert to your whatsapp group say this lie no enter rara

Almost 4trillion Interest🤣

E choke o... literally

That tongue will choke a partner if she lets it slide in his throat during a tongue kiss 🤣

aktolly54:
Yes find out what happened at the front when you are inside trafic and remember to leave your vehicle when issue started because if you lose your car but gain your life, you will buy another car.

Similar thing happened years back for Lagos, where one or many died because they are trying to drive out the car but fire catch them and roast them. Na those who sacrifice their car for their life tell the story how one man trying to save the car but eventually lose his life and car

I know that fire very well, happened around stadium side towards iponri. Many cars burnt but it was one man that died..The man that died was a neighbor. He had just bought that benz (the common one, not v-boot and not baby Benz). We heard same story, when they came to break the news of his fatal burns, cos he didn't die instantly. They said everyone there begged him to leave the car and run, but he was hell bent on finding a way to maneuver the car out of the gridlock. The two little male children he left behind at the time are now a terror in Surulere last I heard.

American Optimus prime na help e dey help.

E rish naija turn, our own optimus prime na flesh e dey like roast.

Smh

Yea. I read this yesterday.

Again, people wonder why some of us who are sane, do not take the words of these brigands seriously. It is because they are pathological liars, they are inconsistent, and they are untrustworthy.

With all the empty noise that Wale Edun made about ways and means being the reason for our inflation, who would expect that same Wale Edun and Cardunce-o still dey dish out same ways and means steady?

Grandstar see your crew o

They were shouting ways and means just about a month ago as the reason for the country's woes and blaming Emefoole, meanwhile, they and their principal included all got the excess money that was printed, and when Emefoole even tried to mop up the money back thru the naira redesign policy, they made sure the people rose up against the policy, just as they made sure people including me rose up against Jonathan removing subsidy in 2012, but they will still after all this come in front of a mic and tell bold faced dumb and inconsistent lies, and their horde of APC zombies here will say you are not a patriot for not believing obvious lies.

Very funny people and funny country.

We dey watch.

slimmax:
Oga check your dates and make correction

lol. I see what you mean, and I have done that. However, it can be inferred that it must be June 2011 and not 2021, since I had earlier said I served btw 2010-2011.

Daystar7:
A day old kid knows there's tax on virtually everything here in Nigeria and you're running from pillar to post now. You based your tax whatever on goods purchased and not on the power of the person purchasing said goods. I've given you UK and Dubai as example to help ur understanding but you still fail to comprehend simple explanation.
You don't increase vat based on increase in the price of goods. Increase in the price of goods is dependent on the law of supply and demand and is not relative to tax. When there's low supply, there 'll be high demand which in turn inflates the price of goods but this doesn't mean automatic increase in vat.
Take Garri for example, garri is now more expensive than it should ever be, what sense is there to increase tax on garri when there's already increase in price of transportation and logistics of the garri and the purchasers have low purchasing power? Increasing tax will only make sense when you increase their salary, that's how it works. Imported goods are cleared by paying import duties, this duties are added to the cost of goods by the importers and then distributed and like that it's covered in bits by the consumers. So each time you purchase anything you pay tax. Now increasing tax automatically cos there's an increase in price is not relative. Tax is relative to purchasing power and where goods are subsidized. The UK, US, Canada subsidize a lot for their citizens and get it back by taxing them. Now this tax is higher for those in the higher class than lower class.

you can't be helped.

Carry on.

Daystar7:
Do you even understand inflation and how vat actually works? Vat is not relative to inflation but to purchasing power. Increase in price is dependent on supply and demand and vat is not relative to it. Do you even realize that vat is just a government way of making money to run the government? That's why in countries like UK you have high taxation and it's those in the higher salary class that pays more. So having a high end job means higher tax and then countries like Dubai there's almost no tax. Tax is just a means for the government to raise money to cater for the needs of its citizens so if at all now the government no longer subsidize fuel, Naira and electricity the tax should drop.
Economics is a secondary sch subject that is compulsory yet ur level of ignorance is higher than the Eiffel tower. Then u lace it arrogance by terming it common sense. Lol. Agbadonomics. 🤡

the greatest handicap a person can have is to be willfully ignorant. Marry what I just taught you to this attached below and see if all of this mumbo jumbo you wrote makes any sense.

Read a little, it helps. You are clearly ignorant of the fact that just about everything you buy has VAT built into it, including bank charges.

Shiior

Daystar7:
What law of Economics is this pls? What then happen when there's an increase in purchasing power? Agbadonomics everywhere

it is law of common sense. If vat is 10% and the item you used to buy costs 5000 to produce and has increased to 8000, the vat you pay on the finished goods at point of sale consequently goes from 500 to 800...

simple sturvs

Is this an achievement? I guess dumb mofos and brigands think it is. Prices of everything increased, isn't it common sense that when the nominal value of an item has increased then the VAT which is a percentage of that will go up too?

Smh

Dear loud-mouthed imp, FFK!

If you're on Nairaland, please know that it is public knowledge that you have failed at everything you have ever set out to do. You have no legacy, no honour, nothing enviable..

A worthless taxi driver in the UK, a worthless failure as a minister, a worthless marital life, and now just a scrounger for anyone who can pay your going rate...

Just an epitome of absolute worthlessness and a stain to proper well-formed Yoruba men.

You ain't shit!🖕


Now, carry on.