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Zikkyy: on a lighter note now



plappville my sister, na wa for you o! how can say a thing like this? was it in anger? I no fit answer this kind of question o! Anyways i just want you to know that it's not recorded in the bible, so how come you doing it today? Your 'toileting' is paganism at it's highest/peak

plappville, if i end in hellfire because of my comments around here, you will be held responsible i will ensure i don't go down alone

laughing in 20 languages including chines.

Sis, he is playing and joking in the last few post but you are still taking it seriously.
Lol.

Free him.

plappville: What i am saying is that There is no command from man binding Christian to use toilet like there is a command for Xmas.

You know that xmas was a forged thing, but toilet has no link with this but you brough up the issue. Did Christ toilet or not? Did Christ do Xmas or not?

lol, sis,
he said that xmas is as important like toilet(pooo).
Lol.

Zikkyy: Now you see why italo's comment make sense You did not consider the impact of toilet when you went said; "No man commanded toilet as a binding, just Like Xmas and other Paganism feast." consider the words in red. if you have difficulty understanding other peeps post, you should be able to understand your own na no be me elevate toilet to same status as xmas o!

Zikkyy: Now you see why italo's comment make sense You did not consider the impact of toilet when you went said; "No man commanded toilet as a binding, just Like Xmas and other Paganism feast." consider the words in red. if you have difficulty understanding other peeps post, you should be able to understand your own na no be me elevate toilet to same status as xmas o!

you have a way of arguing and giving room for people to bring out more points in an issue.

Lol.

italo: So you can answer the question I asked Ijawkid. Good. Why cant you answer the ones I am asking you for the fourth time now?



I know why you can't answer them. Because it will give you away as a LIAR and an IGNORAMUS, right?

am leting tired of this your levels, true.

We have seriouse example of faithful servant of God doing the things you are asking me to show you.

That you dont know is not surprising since you are a catholic and as such you dont search the bible to get information that will serve as a guide.

Ok, Jacob effort in getting a wife should answer this your elementary question and Jesus attending a wedding is also there.

Please read your bible and you will get more answers.

OLAADEGBU: Three-in-Oneness in the Godhead:

Scriptures indicate there is three-in-oneness in the godhead.

In Matthew 28:19, the bodily resurrected Jesus instructed the disciples,

Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptising them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19).

The word name is singular in Greek, thereby indicating God's oneness. However,the definite articles in front of Father, Son and Holy Spirit (in the original Greek) indicate they are distinct personalities, even though there is just one God. These distinct personalities relate to each other. The Father and the Son, for example, know each other (Matthew 11:27), love each other (John 3:35), speak to each other (John 11:41-42). The Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus at His baptism (Luke 3:22), He is called another comforter or helper (John 14:16), He was sent by the Father and Jesus (John 15:26), and He seeks to glorify Jesus (John 16:13-14).

A Simple Analogy

A helpful analogy of the Godhead is that God is like a triangle that is one figure yet has three different sides (or corners) at the same time. So there is a simultaneous threeness and oneness. Of course, no analogy is perfect since in every analogy there is a similarity and a difference. The difference here is that "sides" or "corners" are not persons. Nonetheless, the triangle does illustrate how there can be threeness and oneness at the same time. While there is one God, there are three persons within the One God. QED .

the true woshipers will worship the father in spirit and truth. John 4:24

Image123: Other scriptures for the benefits of those that can see in humility, the mystery of godliness.

The Bible is the Word of the Trinity. It is God the Father talking, the Son talking, the Spirit talking.
Rev 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

Ananias and Sapphira lied to the Trinity.
Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Act 5:4 While it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

Our body is the temple of the Trinity
1Jo 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
1Co 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?


The Spirit of God is the Spirit of the Father and the Son. They said it is unreasonable for God to have two Spirits, we tell dem say not even two, na Seven.
Galat 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
1Pe 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
Rev 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Waaaaaaoh, the Spirit of Christ was in the old testament prophets, and here i was all this while thinking it was the Spirit of God. Okay, Christ is God i recall.

Heb 3:3 For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who hath builded the house hath more honor than the house.
Heb 3:4 For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God.
Who is He that built all things, without whom there was not any made that was made? (Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him. )
The Christ Jesus is God and Lord.
Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

Without a doubt, there is some puzzling, some mystery. Even the great scholar and apostle Paul says
1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Anti-trinity folks say there is no mystery anywhere, and they misapply and twist Paul's writing that God is not a God of confusion. Peter warned us of them, and apostle John told us about God the Son.They accuse everybody and find fault with all versions and translations. they pat themselves in the back and 'like' each other's post on nl as if to add weight to their logic. Fleshly minded fellows.

2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other Scriptures, unto their own destruction.


1Jo 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

mr Image123,

is every thing still well with you?
The things you are writing are terrible even from trinitarian point of view.

Please, am getting worried on your behalf. Slow down!

Image123: i so love the work my brother Ola is doing here. Though, imust unfortunately say that a blind man is blind, whether you show him from afar, or from anear, or from above, or from azoom, or from angles 90, 180, 45, any angle, any colour. the blind man is blind. He needs revelation. If it was a problem of poor vision, they might have profited from meditation. But this is a problem of NO vision.
Luke 6:39 And he spoke a parable to them; Can the blind lead the blind? will they not both fall into the ditch?
the Word remains but a parable to them.

They have told us Jesus is not almighty, so He is not God. We have shown them
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.

They have told us Jesus can be tempted, so He is not God. We have shown them
Act 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
Psa 78:56 Yet they tempted and provoked the most high God, and kept not his testimonies:

They have told us Jesus can be sanctified, so He is not God. We have shown them
1Pe 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear.

They have told us that Jesus is a man, so He is not God. We have shown them
Exo 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

They have told us that Jesus is not immortal, so He is not God. We have shown them
1Ti 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he will show who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and power everlasting. Amen.

They have told us that Jesus does not know everything, so He is not God. We have shown them
Joh 16:30 Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest from God.
Joh 21:17 He saith to him the third time, Simon son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved, because he said to him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said to him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith to him, Feed my sheep.

They have been blind to these things, but they are no left with an excuse or a witness.
Act 14:17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.
SHAME TO YOU SATAN, HALLELUYAH.

who is really the blind man here?

Trinitarians or the none 3 gods people?

Is the bible a book of 3gods?

manmustwac: @wiegraf
I did lock (this senseless) topic but then at the request of logicboy I reopened it.

best you did not lock it since the intent will be misconstrued.

^^^
Way too far with this!

You both have your reasons and it is noted.

Move on "pals"

let the thread be.

lagerwhenindoubt: It is dangerous to allow unintelligent and infinitely s.tupid people to have opinions. They have their pastors and holy prophet for that. Do you know who else asides Jesus who is gay.. U got that right

i did not!

muskeeto2: When one decides to be stupid, there's no stopping him...

what is stupid about the thread?

Ant there theist that are gay?

Why the anger?

Am saying that most atheist are gay. QED.

vedaxcool: Really? is this base on data? coz it could be another reason why certain people had to become atheist to banish the feelings of guilt.I am beginning to feel that i should not have brought up this topic, cause it seems their feelings is hurt!

their anger is base on the notion/hatred for a God that has already condamed them for who they are, "so why bother"
?

to such end it is useless to them since they feel that their sentence has been passed.

Am not saying that all atheist are homosexuals/gay, but most.

lagerwhenindoubt: Mr. did you actually read the title of the post as well as the post? Coming from you I am indeed surprised. from this I can assume that Christians/Muslims do not have the slightest clue how to ask a honest question. you build your assumptions on baseless foundations and proceed to give them meaning by simply stating it for a FACT. I have absolutely no hatred or phobia for gays as I do for pe.dophiles, hypocrites and terrorists. and for you to assume it annoys me brings to light the very inane and immature line of reasoning peeps like you bring into a discussion. you somehow fail to notice that the OP actually has enough to make an opinion (as he exposes himself literally) but chooses to sound blissfully ignorant (under the guise of a simple question). how on earth does being Gay makes it probable that you are an Atheist? do you in your most somber moments actually give this question any form of merit. So being straight or gay gives an inkling to what religion the individual practices or is likely to practice. does it escape your reasoning that much?

The crux of my annoyance is how you (vedaxcool and you obviously) try to deem it worthy of discussion. it is like saying being n.aked is a sign of mental illness regardless of the situation. it smacks of outlandish, dignified buffoonery and it is a sad position indeed.

Is Islam a religion for terrorists,p.edophiles and sodomists? does that question not sound immature or at best, mentally unbalanced to you?
Is Christianity a religion for h.omosexuals, lesbi.ans and pathological liars? does that question not sound immature or at best, mentally unbalanced to you?

Do you now understand my annoyance? fatuous and petrifying stupidity should not be dignified in any manner, it should be discouraged and possibly extricated by tortuous beatings

long post again.
This question seems close to your heart.

it was a question, simply state your opinion and dont take it personal.

What i said is my own opinion, all you can do is ask for my reasons then we can discuss.

What you are saying is your own opinion, are you saying that others should not air their own views?

plappville: if this mean One person then why the i and my Father ? simple reasoning is needed dear!

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Through the Help of the Holy Spirit, Chritians are one In Christ. Christ and His Father are one in decision and works. when God decides, Christ carries it out.

Two person cannot be ONE.


Jesus have a God over Him.

Stop clinging to me; for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren (disciples), and say to them, 'I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.' (John 20: 17).

The God of Jesus is our God according to the bible.

hahaha.
Lol.

She is getting too hot to handle.

2good: You are a religious fool!

and what is you proof for that?

Have you come to show your "atheist minded" mind set?

Their is no holds bar for you you know?

"Anything goes"

Evil Brain: Look at frosbel preaching against the use of straw man arguments. It hasn't even occurred to him that he does the exact same thing practically every time he attacks someone else's beliefs on Nairaland.

Define hypocrisy.

^^^
it is possible that you may be right,
however, can you proof that agitation for the benefit of doubt?

If you cant, are we free to consider you and your statement LIAR and a lie?

plaetton: Agree. I would do the same because no laws are broken. But...., and this is a big but, by so doing, i would be depriving my country of tax revenue, one necessary for development and maintaining the services that we take for granted. If every millionaire does it, then only the working middle class would shoulder burden of bankrolling the government, the nation.
So even though it is legal, even smart, it is grossly unpatriotic, more so for an individual who wants to run the development agenda of the government and nation.
It is a contradiction to deny your nation of needed tax revenue by stashing your wealth in another nation, then come back and ask the tax payers of your country to elect you president.
Obviously his personal financial interests trumps that of the nation he wants to lead.

hmmm!

Plaeton!

^^^ Good one.

italo: @ Ijawkid,

You haven't shown me where the Bible says "register you Christian marriage with civil authorities."

Are you still looking for it? Or do we declare it a PAGAN practice?

the Law asked for it and christians are law abiding citizens, as such they register their marriage.

This your question are childish.

I find it difficult relating with your reasoning.

lagerwhenindoubt: I can understand your confusion with vedaxcool. i just realized we are dealing with an Muslim Zealot and a devout religionist. they have the rare gift of dualism in a philosophical singularity. able to Lie and Tell the Truth at the same time only Politicians come close to that level of skill Islam going by mounting evidence spilling into the news everyday - is a violent, barbaric, illiterate and bone-donkey-arse religion who (historically) revealed homosexualism as a way of life. I wonder why they deny their very creation rather than reveling in it

why is this question of being gay annoying you?

lagerwhenindoubt: Soo you had this much to say and you were simply wondering.. posting like some JJC. I respect you as a MOD (it takes a lot of guts) but it seems to me that religious folks would rather a terrorist, serial-killer, child-molester than an upstanding member of society who is gay. small time now you go dey shout islamaphobia...

Your question has no merit whatsoever simply because (as you have clearly proven) you have enough information available to you to make an informed opinion.. in like manner I can ask you if ... no idare not ask that you would surely be hurt.. going by the effects of some tardy video in recent times

with all this long post are you gay?

State clearly so that we know where you are coming from.

vedaxcool: Well just wandering, you can't help but notice the usual defense mounted by atheist for Gays just like Abdulsleek sorry logicboy does often atimes wearily. Making it seem all atheist would "naturally" defend homosexuality.

Edited

majority of atheist are homosexuals/gay.

[quote author=BUSHY-ANUS]who or what exactly do we guard against by locking our doors?
is it evil spirits, thieves?, robbers?, animals? or its just a custom we cant explain??[/quote]because of atheist minded fellows.

They can kill you and collect all your property and will not give a Damed cause they dont belief that any thing will happen to them.

"Just survival of the fittest"

Goshen360: So do I take it that you agree or believe that Jesus is God (excluding the "Mighty" and NOT "god" with the lower case "g"

~Just an answer in one simple, straight forward and plain sentence please~

read what the bible says from the scriptures i cited and then you know my stance.

Deep Sight: ^^^ As i stated above, i intended it as a joke. Maye it should be moved to the Jokes Column. Or deleted if offensive. Nothing more was intended.

Frankly i am angry its on the Frontpage. It does not deserve to be there. More serious issues should be there.

the mod that had moved the thread to the front page may had wanted to ridiculed david and co for their stand then. And this thread came very handy.

OLAADEGBU: Did you read the part where you should take "present" and add it to the human nature? We measure time in past, present and future; Jesus the Son of God deliberately put aside some aspects of His Deity when He became the Son of Man. I hope you can comprehend that.

Thats a lie design to cover your false hood.

Why is there so many churches if not for the control of the money extorted thereof?

If the money stop coming their "love" for god will die off and the church will close down.

tidytim: The Trinity is a Brainwashometer

The trinity is therefore a 'Brainwashometer'. If the victim is prepared to believe that one is three and that a father is his own son and that a son is uncreated, then he is prepared to believe anything at all and so he is fully brainwashed. Once he is in this condition, his logic is removed, his objectivity has gone, he is mentally defenceless, so he or his family can be pumped for money, sex, status, worship, whatever the priest wants.

So by making the trinity doctrine the central doctrine of the Roman Catholic faith, that church was auto selecting brainwashed people. The control freak only wants brainwashed people. He cannot permit free thinkers to enter the congregation, they might see through his little game and liberate his brainwashed victims. It is a pleasure to be able to reveal the truth behind this despicable mind game that the Roman Catholic Church has relied on for 1700 years.

http://www.biblecodeintro.com/intro39.html

very very truthful indeed.

Goshen360: This thread, simply put is to address who Jesus is. Is he just an ordinary man or is he God or is he God that became man and hence makes him both God and man? Let me begin by calling witnesses to the court room.

Here are the witnesses in/from the scriptures:

The Father. By the Father, I meant God the Father. The Father himself calls Jesus who is the Son God and it witnessed from Hebrews 1:8,

New International Version (©1984)
But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.


Okay. The Father who is God calls the Son God right. This is the first witness. To do justice, the Son also calls the Father God. and says the Father is greater than him. Let's hear from the witness of the Son,

New International Version (©1984)
Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" John 20:17.

Okay. The Father calls the Son God and the Son calls the Father God or "my God". Does that mean the son is NO God? Certain not! If we are fighting Trinity, let's be straight forward to fight Trinity and if we are attacking the deity of Christ as God, let simply do that. Now, in the face of these TWO witnesses (The Father himself and The Son), Can we say Jesus is God and the Father is also God?

@ Ijawkid, Frosbel and Truthislight,

Do you agree (or believe) that Jesus is God. By "Jesus is God", I meant Jesus NOT the Father but still God according to the scriptures. I will like each of you (Ijawkid, Frosbel and Truthislight) to answer same question personally on your separate response. Thank you.

the word God is a title that all entities that received worshipful honor are entitle to and Jesus is one of such entities.

The demons are fallen angels and as such they receive worship as the are behind idol worship and the likes.

Satan also received worship as can be seen from his request Jesus to do an act of worship to him.
2corinth 4:4. Satan = god.

Yahweh Ofcouse is the all and all and also is the one to which all creation should worship.

Jesus at Isaiah 9:6 = MIGHTY God.

Am not the one that wrote the bible.

That is what the bible says.

Goshen360: Okay, I don wake up healthy and sound. I will resume and nail this discourse today and right now.

hahaha.
Lol.
An't you a funny guy?
Lol

adultebony: Just found out that the Revered Pastor follows this Forum, interesting...

who cares if he/them does follow?

Those greedy fellows that dont have conscience.

italo: The Bible does not explain what it means, so we should take it that trying to explain it would be PAGANISM, shouldn't we? Except you want to show me where the Bible explains it, can you?


I am still expecting your answers.

since you are an RCC member and they dont stick to the bible as their authority i think it becomes a different ball game to expect you to take the bible as a guide.

But for those that respect and accept the bible as God's word it is very obvious.

Enigma: ^^^ The above is false and has been addressed on the other thread. If you want to pursue it further, join me on the other thread.

I leave Goshen360 to handle matters here. Afterall, the questions he asked have not been answered despite the promise to address them.

Enigma, i am gradually becoming afraid of you o!

What is the false hood in the words of pastor kunle below?

Pastor Kun: I have since discovered that my brother Goshen has problems with his definition of God, deity and divine being. It is this confusion that is mis leading him to believe the trinity dogma. Yes Jesus is God but he is not GOD almighty. The bible does not teach there is only one god since it acknowledges other lesser gods. What it teaches is that there is only one supreme G
od who is the father almighty that created the heavens and the earth. The fact that Jesus is referred to as God in a very few places in scripture does not equate him to the Father who is God over him.

is it that those are not a consistent bible teaching?

pls, Enigma, i want you to point out where in that statement that is false?

If you dont, it may align you as a liar, dont you think so?

We are waiting please.