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obadiah777: you know what your problem is Goshen ? you have been entangled in chains of darkness. you cant see no more. you have been blinded. you will probably stay this way till christ returns

jude 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

romans 11 vs 7[b]What then? Israel has not obtained that which it seeks for; but the election has obtained it, and the rest were blinded[/b]

Goshen got spiritual astigmatism nigga blind as a bat.

obadiah777: again you err.
1-angels are human beings sent on a mission by God. they are messengers. the israelites are angels whose duty was to spiritually civilize the heathens. esau is an evil angel. he was sent on a mission by God to remove peace from the earth ( revelation 6 vs 4 ). so angels are spirits in humans not standalone spirits.

2-the holy ghost also known as the holy spirit is the good spirit in man. every man has a satanic and a godly spirit. the spirit in human is bi-part. the part of the spirit in man that the lord wants you to showcase is your holy spirit. any man who dwells in his satanic spirit will be carnal and sin filled. any man who dwells in his holy spirit will be godly.
SUSANNA 1 VS 45 Therefore when she was led to be put to death, the Lord raised up the holy spirit of a young youth whose name was Daniel:
see the holy spirit is in man. so what that verse you posted means is that a righteous man ( a holy ghost. a man who dwells in his holy spirit ) will come upon you. that man is Joseph.

obadiah777: not INCLUSIVITY VS EXCLUSIVITY. its INCLUSIVITY VIA EXCLUSIVITY. lord works through one to get to the rest. started with Adam to get to the adamites, then the Israelites to get to the heathens, then he demoted the israelites after he sealed 144,000 of them, then the 144,000 he used to get to the heathens in the dark ages, then he handed the world to the heathens to see what they will do with their chance at salvation which is why the world is in darkness as we speak. the whole world is awash in delusions ( 2 thessalonians 2 vs 11 and isaiah 66 vs 4 ). and thats where we are today. waiting on the lord to collect the kingdom from the heathens and return it to the israelites. the 144,000 sealed and elect men of the tribe of israel, under the auspices and tutelage of Yahawah of course. we await patientily for that day brother Ihedinobi. we, the saints await

obadiah777: scripture do say line upon line precept upon precept here a little there a little. all the broken pieces are all over the bible. you are going to have to put the puzzle together yourself. i have put you on the right path. now go and be fruitful my friend

MacDaddy01: No a criminal offence is punishment for a serious crime.


Use your brain

MacDaddy01: No a criminal offence is punishment for a serious crime.


Use your brain

MacDaddy01: Dumbazz, just because something is not criminal, it doesnt it make it right.


Adultery is wrong but should never be criminalised.

turnstoner: One thing that can bring atheists, humanists and agnostics together is if they had a common agenda. I have advocated on a similar thread for a political agenda. A sort of manifesto that can be developed in a forum like this without having to gather together physically. Surely, wouldn't the average atheist, humanist, agnostic love an educational system with less emphasis on religion? Do you know that adultery is a criminal offence in Nigeria? Will it necessarily be so in an atheist -humanist-agnostic manifesto?

ifeness: Its all about the God delusion. Its really eaten deep......the only reason a man will pay the church 10% of his income every month. That is more powerful than JUJU.

thehomer: Sin isn't like genes. A person's children cannot be sent to prison because the committed a crime.

Sins are supposed to be acts performed and they obviously cannot be inherited. It looks as if you think they should be heritable. Can you please tell us why you think so?

truthislight: actually, it seems it is you that needs to open your mind.

Even simple natural laws are desroyed by you.

What really have you said?

Educate me.

Cus i have learnt noting from you.

NGash!
(whom the Gods want to kill they first made them mad)

MyJoe: "Devil's advocate" is just a phrase he picked up from the Adeboye thread. It's clear he doesn't know what it means.

johnck: truthislight, i just hope u are not a JW, becos if u are,(from ur posts dat i've been reading) i will neva join such an organization-ur words are so judgemental. Although i've never seen a JW use such words while proselytizing in real life...however i'm now having dis instinct that they are only hiding their thru identity. U are condeming an individual! U are labeling an individual repugnant names; who d hell are u to do dat? Are u God?...can't u just refute d argument rather than the name calling? (like devil's advocate).

U guys (truthislight, Barrister,Myjoe etc.) seem to tink u are dicussing religion intelligently...however, in reality, u are making people hate religion...To prove my point, u guys shuld carefully read ur post objectively, u will notice d OBSCENE language dat u've been labelin on ur fellow human( e.g olodo, agbero omo ita, among many others)
I wouldn't believe dat a Divine will want dis...U guys should plz close dis tread becos it yields no good. It's only resulting to conflict!

Martian: Is english your first language?

ifeness: I have an isreali friend. He claimed their Torah God told them black people are animals and they should be used as slaves.

Are you not already a slave to him?

ifeness: A spirit who wants to be worshiped. please could you ask him why he hated Esau?

thehomer: "Sin" shouldn't be heritable. If you think it should be heritable, please tell me why.

rhymz: My father that I know of and have lived with until he died was not adam, same goes for my mother. What kind of Loving father visits the anger and wrath commited by some fictitious id!ot in the past against a person that does not know the id!ot. Your God's justice system is malicious and extremely inconsidetate if he judges me before I get a chance by the wrong doing of the caricature he once created to humour himself from his bordom. How would you feel if you are judged by the sins of somebody you don't know or ever met? Arr you ok at all sef? What kind irational BS are you spewing sef, must ne high on some Jesus kool aid like those American Jonsing christians that allowed themselves to be murdered by A jonsing Jimy.. . Lol. .unvonditional wrath.

ifeness: @ truthislight:

i am waiting for an answer from ur God....ask him what my middle name is if he is all powerful?

what does he look like and could you please ask him what my middle name is?

ifeness: what does he look like and could you please ask him what my middle name is?

ifeness: You need to chill dude. If this is the reality you have created for yourself,it really is a shame cos the book your read all this from was written by the slave masters to oppress us mentally. I understand a lot of Nigerians are still caught up in the matrix, but seriously you are going too far! you need help!!!!

rhymz: first of all, the idea of unconditional love in the face of a justice system is contradictory. The whole essence of showing Justice is to show that there is no such things as unconditional love unless your idea of unconditional is different. If I don't believe in your God, then he shows me the door to hell yet I am to believe his love is unconditional?
Secondly, your brother and father anology is a far cry from what you are saying. Using your analogy, I have to forever be bound by my brothers rules and regulations all because my brother chose to take my punishment.
So according to your analogy everytime I commit a sin my father is supposed to forgive me when I remind him that my brother once took the punishment for me right? Where does that kind of justice system occur? In heaven i guess. . Lol

ifeness: Unconditional love is non- judgmental! In fact it will let you be and not disturb you at all. But you Bible God has committed lots of atrocities which makes him/her/it far from loving.

If you were talking about you parents loving you,i will understand and probably believe you cos you are an eye witness to what you were saying. But you have never seen the bible god and he/it/she is NOT loving AT ALL!!!! according to the bible


I hope you are familiar with the verse below
Romans 9:13
As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

ifeness: Please can you allow the Bible God defend himself. You keep talking about him as if you have seen him before.

thehomer: Why should I accept something that isn't there? Or something that doesn't make sense?

thehomer: I don't really want to go into demonstrating that Christ's atonement was a meaningless gesture but how can someone pay for another person's crime? Justice means that this shouldn't be allowed. If God can change the entire concept of justice by allowing such a gesture, then surely he should also be able to just wipe the slate clean whenever he wants.

With respect to the topic at hand, a person cannot be in bondage if they're free to leave at any time and they know that they're free to leave at any time. e.g if someone walks into a room and is told that they can leave whenever they like, can you really say that such a person is in bondage?

You liken grace to this freedom to leave bondage. My point is that the person isn't actually in bondage thus doesn't need this grace that you're selling.

thehomer: Doesn't this then imply that Christians should never be in the cage and thus never sin?

Then I also wonder, is sin some sort of bondage or not? I ask because if one is in a cage and told that the door was open, then what was the point of putting the person in the cage if they could always get out?

rhymz: Man's explanation for God's illogical actions. You love me, then put me in an open cage, as if that is not enough, I will have to agree to some terms if I want to work out of the open cage. I guess the open exit is a bait. See carrot and stick love. Yet he loves us unconditionally. .lol

rhymz: the school of yahweh teaches inpracticable bullshit!