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Enigma: ^^ He "doesn't read my posts"!

italo: ^^^

The Prostestant pretends to argue against the Catholic doctrine of "Papal infallibility."

...but actually, what he does is to argue against his own distorted version of "Papal infallibility."

So the Protestant wins the argument, only, he wins against his own concocted doctrine of Papal infallibility.

Syncan: You speak so much, making little sense. An apostle in the middle of an instruction tells you that the following instruction is coming from him and not the lord. He goes ahead to make the instructions, he reassures the people that this is from his judgement, but that he believes he is backed by the spirit of God. Now why did he in the middle of the speech, feel obligated to inform his hearers that the next set of instruction is not the lord's but his?

Why are you quarreling with what St. Paul said?

Your ignorance of the meaning of the word Infallibility is so thick and your refusal to read and learn is not helping you at all.

Enigma: Actually there is an example from earlier on this very thread where I pointed out that even the Roman Catholic denomination people's own very encyclopaedia could not deny it and says: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07452b.htm

"It is clear that no Catholic has the right to defend Pope Honorius. He was a heretic, not in intention, but in fact; and he is to be considered to have been condemned in the sense in which Origen and Theodore of Mopsuestia, who died in Catholic communion, never having resisted the Church, have been condemned."

So yeah let Roman Catholics continue to sing: Let him be anathema!


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Addendum: in fact let me add jara from our friend dem own encyclopaedia:

"Pope Honorius I

Pope (625-12 October, 638), a , consecrated 27 October (Duchesne) or 3 November (Jaffé, Mann), in succession to Boniface V. His chief notoriety has come to him from the fact that he was condemned as a heretic by the sixth general council (680)."

Syncan: Once again you have gone back to your former unfortunate condition. Only LK 23: 9 is my response again.

JMAN05: to Can Catholics respond this. Where there any time pope Honorius was declared a heretic? If so, there is no need for further argument. and please enigma can you post a document showing he was actually declared a heretic?

Enigma: ^^ On top of that, the "pope" is actually quite fallible even on matters of faith aka "the deposit of faith" --- according to Roman Catholic doctrine when studied carefully.

That is why they are able to wriggle when a "pope" is caught in heresy --- they say oh but even though he committed heresy on a matter of faith, he was not then exercising "infallibility". This is exactly the case with the "pope" Honorius who was formally declared to be a heretic by a Council and other "popes".

With the fact that Honorius' case catches them out, Roman Catholics were initially lying that Honorius was not declared a heretic ---- until official documents surfaced including the profession of faith by which, for decades/centuries", "popes" intending to take office had to decare that Honorius was a heretic.

Then Roman Catholics changed tactics: some try to say well, the Council made a mistake and that Honorius was not in fact guiilty of heresy. Again the documents easily refute them.

Then, they turn to their last refuge: they say even if Honorius was indeed guilty of heresy he was not speaking "infallibly".

You see? How oily? Teflon "infallibility"!

The whole "papal infallibility" thing is a ruse by which one "pope" in particular and spome others wanted to vent their megalomania. It has nothing to do with Christianity.

Hence they defined "papal infallibility" quite vaguelyt such that, as I said before, even Roman Catholics cannot give an accurate, agreed or even consistent catalogue of when their "popes" spoke "infallibly".

Syncan:
To this i will respond graciously, since you did not ask in your usual mood.

Please look carefully at this.

"But to the rest speak I, not the Lord": and then the one you brought to the fore

"But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment: and I think also that I have the Spirit of God".

Did you notice a difference made by those words?

Firstly, he tells you that he is the one speaking and that he has no Divine instruction - Please accept what he said, it is not the lord but him.

Secondly, just like you pointed out, he said he "thinks", He has made what he considered a sound teaching with the best of intentions, yet if someone challenges him on this at the time, he will not proclaim anathema. If he thinks, he is not certain.

Syncan: O wise and understanding one hear this:

"At that time Jesus answered and said:I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children" Matt 11: 25.

No wonder it was hidden from you!

Syncan: Yes.
1Cor 7:12 starts with this "But to the rest speak I, not the Lord:" The words in bold sends you a message immediately. It puts the next set of instructions not in the same category with the earlier ones

frosbel: This is where many of the Nigerian Fraudsters MOG learn their tricks from.

Shame on this Liar !

NativeBoy: My question is not what happens to the body but the soul? Where does the soul go after death?

Black Peni5: This guy is not intelligent...No point arguing with you.

mumumugu: I thought i was high....someone jst beat me to it

Mintayo: kkk,just dnt know if the PM will go tru,thanks.
Thanks truthislight,God bless you.

Obinoscopy: Done. Thanks for reporting

Pastor Olu T: Bro I dont think the opinion of others should matter to u, in fact true Christians are not mostly liked. But u seem a cool guy to me

Pastor Olu T: Bro I dont think the opinion of others should matter to u, in fact true Christians are not mostly liked. But u seem a cool guy to me

Mintayo: Goodmorning Mods,please i don't know if i can be helped here,i was banned by the antispambot at the Job/vacancies section,i have made a complaint at the general section but its like the Mods there are still in bed,please can someone here help me please,its urgent please.
Thanks for your help.

Mintayo: Goodmorning Mods,please i don't know if i can be helped here,i was banned by the antispambot at the Job/vacancies section,i have made a complaint at the general section but its like the Mods there are still in bed,please can someone here help me please,its urgent please.
Thanks for your help.

NativeBoy: Ok. So what is the judgment in Revelations about then?

vickyO: ok

vickyO: click on it and save it on your device.
Or how do I send it to you?

vickyO: Why not?

vickyO: Ok...
Who's Chinedu?

davydenko18: Yeah, the end brings everything into proper view, but hemme where precisely can one found Song of Solomon

Seun: Let this end now, please. Go back to your section where you're doing a very fine job. We won't allow any religious fights between moderators.

NativeBoy: We just appear to be going back and forth trying to discuss a huge topic. Let's break it down to bits and for now focus on the issue of what happens to the unbeliever when they die.

What is your position?

Enigma: You never see funny. There are lots of other stuff that we can still point to.

You don see where Hippolytus finish two "popes" in one go in one place like that?

You don see where the Eastern "pope" Firmillian when writing to the "church father" Cyprian finished the Roman Catholic "pope"?

Person still dey bring bird come from pocket .........

Enigma: Even "animals" can be considered by some to be better than a "pope" who did the below to his predecessor ---- to a previous "pope".

Note this information is even taken from the Roman Catholic people's own encyclopaedia!

"Whether induced by evil passion or perhaps, more probably, compelled by the Emperor Lambert and his mother Ageltruda, he caused the body of Formosus to be exhumed, and in January, 897, to be placed before an unwilling synod of the Roman clergy. A deacon was appointed to answer for the deceased pontiff, who was condemned for performing the functions of a bishop when he had been deposed and for passing from the See of Porto to that of Rome. The corpse was then stripped of its sacred vestments, deprived of two fingers of its right hand, clad in the garb of a layman, and ultimately thrown into the Tiber. Fortunately it was not granted to Stephen to have time to do much else besides this atrocious deed. Before he was put to death by strangulation, he forced several of those who had been ordained by Formosus to resign their offices and he granted a few privileges to churches. "

italo: In order to say with certainty that another man is fallible, one has to be infallible.

Otherwise, how can one be sure?

Anti-Catholics!

woky: u funny