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Christianity EtcRe: In What Way Is God Good? Inviting Mr Anony And Any Intersted Party by truthislight: 12:46am On Aug 18, 2013
thehomer: @ truthislight

I really don't see the point of your rambling. Please try to write concise responses.
When someone locks himself in a box in a desert and starts screaming at the top of his voice while imagining that his voice has stoped the ears of all other people in the world, it is a clue to let us know that the persons problem is not an ordinary problem, but is rooted deep down inside the person as an abnormality.
Christianity EtcRe: In What Way Is God Good? Inviting Mr Anony And Any Intersted Party by truthislight: 12:36am On Aug 18, 2013
thehomer: @ truthislight

I really don't see the point of your rambling. Please try to write concise responses.
LIAR !

We now know who is ignorant ! , not Yahweh.
Christianity EtcRe: In What Way Is God Good? Inviting Mr Anony And Any Intersted Party by truthislight:
Exactly what is the intent of this your question i dont know, is it a genuine quest or an intent to 'mockl' thinking the soil is fertile ? I cant really say.

However, setting things straight for the record is what i feel is necessary.

thehomer: @ Image123


Since you think it is a baseless assumption, please answer this simple question. Did God know that drowning everyone except Noah and his crew will not end evil? Please answer with a yes or no.
^

picking out scriptures haphazardly is not a rational thing for one to do, not if one slightly have the mind that this 'God' is slightly intelligent and will not do things without a reason.

But you, am afraid that some how in your mind is a done conclusion that "nothing good can come out of Nazareth".

You somehow thinks that Yahweh is "foolish". Smh.

If the reason for destroying the world in Noah's day was to absolutely obliterate evil (though Noah was still an imperfect son of Adam that can make mistakes) and not to destroy a world inwhich super natural being and their offspring caused a lot of violence :

"And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
"And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them." (Genesis 1-7).
...............

If that ^ was not the reason why Yahweh destroyed that world, can you please tell me how this prophesy below will have come to pass since it had not yet had fulfilment befor the flood ? :



"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."
(Genesis 3:15).
......................

That ^ finally fulfilled in Jesus.

If Yahweh's intentions was what you said, how would that prophesy about the seed of the woman(the messiah) have come to pass ?

You should answer, cause you are the one that made the deduction of what Yahweh's failed intention was.

If you cant answer, who then is the foolish one then ? You! No ? !
Christianity EtcRe: Satan Ministry: Special Recognition For Obadiah777. by truthislight: 11:34pm On Aug 16, 2013
New Alfa: For you, which is worse? To say that jesus didn't exist or to say that jesus will become Lucifer?
What the heck ? huh

What are you driving at ?

The word 'lucifer' is translated from the word shining one. (without translation, what you will have at that Isaiah is shining one)

Spirit sons of God are called 'shining stars' or stars.

Jesus is called " bright morning star" in the bible.



So, i dont see why you delude yourself with a problem that does not exist.

Except you have a wrong doctrine like the rest, then you can then forget the fact that 'all stars shines'.

Disclaimer:
*My post does not in any way collaborate with any extra biblical exegesis* .
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight: 11:52am On Aug 14, 2013
mukina2: @ Striklymi

^ How about nominating yourself?

All the names you suggested are ok, but we need people to indicate interest themselves, so no one will say/complain that it was forced on them.
striktlymi: I understand your concerns but I go with 'option (3)' = Ishilove and Obadiah.

I believe firmly that Ishilove will do a fine job.
grin

see this guy is replacing himself With Ishilove.

smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Pls Give Good Reasons Why You Cannot Be Elevated To The Status Of A Moderator by truthislight: 8:03am On Aug 14, 2013
striktlymi: I will only indicate my interest as a last resort. Since we have two great members who have volunteered already, then this is not necessary.
well, if you that have the majority vote says so.

Should it not be a combination of you and either of them ?

If that ^ is true. Which of the combination do you think should work going by the belief based of those that post here in this religious section ?

Which of this two combination covers this divers of this board ?

1. Striklimi and Ishilove.

2. Striklimi and Obediah777(Buzugee).

Can you see that combination 1 above is from the same 'root' ? (if you know what i mean, a root that is the basis of most of the debate in this religious forum).

Obediah is very important to the other Divide.

If you wish to step down for Ishilove is not what i can adjudicate on, you may need the opinion of the wider forum.

But i think that Obediah can carter for the interest of the others(he even voted for logicboy boy in the last poster of the year).
Christianity EtcRe: Think before you contribute to the 3-km Long Church Auditorium for Rccg by truthislight: 10:56pm On Aug 13, 2013
Chibuebem: I understand, but sir, does the fact that he wants a bigger auditorium mean to accomodate his members mean that he isn't building people's lives?
I dont want to believe that Adeboye does brain washing also. And that some are sent to this forum.

What has 3km auditorium to do with this ? :

"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. " (Matthew 24:14).

You seem lost, dont you think So ?
Christianity EtcRe: Think before you contribute to the 3-km Long Church Auditorium for Rccg by truthislight: 10:50pm On Aug 13, 2013
419nigga: . Thank you o...pls xplain it to them... I see it as BEEF towards the church...this is a simple issue; like I said ''if ur 1room apartment can no longer contain your family won't yu plan to move to a bigger appartment''. I don't understand the way most people think here
What is the "church" in this context ? Smh.

You are lost !
Christianity EtcRe: Think before you contribute to the 3-km Long Church Auditorium for Rccg by truthislight: 10:46pm On Aug 13, 2013
debosky: Who has set this requirement as a pre-requisite before embarking on such a project? Did God say do not build meeting places before ensuring there is not one 'needy' person in the congregation or is this your opinion?



I disagree - this is a facility intended to provide a suitable meeting place for RCCG members when they come together. That is a valid use of RCCG resources for the benefit of RCCG members.



I agree only with the bold text - let the Lord guide us all, not edicts/opinions of men like the one you’ve given above.



Brother, do not give the impression that the choice is between building facilities for brethren to meet together or following Jesus. Both are compatible.



Good admonition - however, contributing to this building is not equal to abdicating responsibility for one’s salvation to Adeboye/RCCG. Don’t conflate issues simply due to your opposition to this specific project.

Thanks.
YOU !

Your opinion is not the bible owns opinion, just like if you turn a rebel tomorrow it does not mean that christians should be rebels.
Christianity EtcRe: Think before you contribute to the 3-km Long Church Auditorium for Rccg by truthislight: 10:39pm On Aug 13, 2013
superior1: Those are your opinions and you are entitled to it. The project is wrong because there are many hungry people in the land?. There will always be the poor in the land and while i support churches in sharing their burden, i don't see it as a reason for not contributing to church projects and expansion.
What is the 'church' sef ?

Is the church structures ?

What is Adeboye expanding sef ?
Christianity EtcRe: Pls Give Good Reasons Why You Cannot Be Elevated To The Status Of A Moderator by truthislight: 5:26pm On Aug 13, 2013
striktlymi: Lol!!!

Thanks for gracing this thread and giving us your reasons for not indicating your interest. I am just glad that we, at least, have two volunteers already: Obadiah and Ishilove.
Does that mean you are not interested ?

Please state clearly if you are or not.

It is obvious that so far you have the highest tip for the job here.

That ^ cannot be ignored. cool
Christianity EtcRe: Pls Give Good Reasons Why You Cannot Be Elevated To The Status Of A Moderator by truthislight:
Lol.

I cant believe you brought me into this.

But then, the effort, besides, you did a Good job here.

No need to defend or explain what you have said as it will not be necessary.

However, this below and this thread tells you what ? That you hate this forum or that you have what i will call 'a great interest' in this forum ?

Well, that ^ is definitely obvious.

striktlymi: 6) Truthislight https://www.nairaland.com/truthislight

Time registered: June 14, 2012
Time spent online: 2 months & 11 days
Last seen: 5:45am


Pros:

a) Loved and respected by a number of Christians.
b) Ability to tolerate some members.
c) Time seems not to be an issue.
d) Demonstrated ability to lead.
e) Willingness to allow healthy debates.

Cons:

a) Not a fan of a lot of Catholics.
b) Yet to demonstrate an ability to work with Maclatunji.
c) Seems to be concerned mostly with matters surrounding the Trinity doctrine.
d) Tendency to attack some members when pushed to the wall.
e) Not a fan of the irreligious.
f) Have a soft spot for JWs.
concerning your question, yeah! It is a very interesting thing to vie for the mod. Of this section, that being said, i wish to state that my interest in this forum is to defend the BIBLE whenever as much as i can and being a mod May hinder that set objective of my being here.

With that ^, i believe i have stated my peculiar circumstances why it has to be someone else as the mod.

So, back to who seems to have 'a great Interest' and have put in alot >>> Striklymi .

Lol. This forum is not a 'church' as some will like to make it look, but rather, an avenue where 'all sort of person' comes to express their understanding of 'life'.

So, does this forum needs a "pastor" to operate without sentiment and favouritism ? The answer is No.

Anybody that wishes to be the mod should be ready to drop his 'personally held beliefs' while making decisions and ensure his decision are based on honesty, good will and equity for the benefit of the forum.

Of very big importance is a deep good sense of humour as a mod, and i think that is something we all know those that thrives the most at that. (thinking about your football team thread" grin ).

I wish my views about you is not personal. But i know we dont need a bigot to be a mod here.

DrummaBoy: I agree with this thread.

Has anyone on the above list indicated interest for the job? If they have, they have my vote.

And for having the initiative for this I vote STRKTLYMI as moderator.
Pastor Kun: Nice thread @Stricklymi, seems a lot of hard work as gone into putting this thread together. However i have reservations about your appraisal of me. I don't have a problems with muslims and i have a lot of muslim friends and relatives. What i detest is the extremist and terrorist amongst them. In the case of maclatunji you are right i can't get along with someone of his level of hypocrisy and intolerance. As per date i registered on NL i resgistered with my original I.D sometimes in early 2007. pastorkun is a later day moniker. Finally i would like to recommend Stricklymi for the post of moderator he seems to have all the qualities a moderator should have, he has the ability to accomodate all views and is not in any way biased in his posts.
why not combine him(strik) with Obediah aka Buzugee cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: OLAADEGBU, You Are Soiling DEEPER LIFE Reputation With Manipulation! by truthislight: 10:32pm On Aug 09, 2013
BERNIMOORE: can a good tree produce a bad fruit?
NO !

"A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. " (Matthew 7:18).
Christianity EtcRe: A Must Read: The Dust Raised By John Kumuyi's Wedding! by truthislight: 10:27pm On Aug 09, 2013
BERNIMOORE: can a good tree produce a bad fruit? shocked shocked shocked
NO !

"A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. " (Matthew 7:18).
Christianity EtcRe: In What Way Is God Good? Inviting Mr Anony And Any Intersted Party by truthislight: 10:20pm On Aug 09, 2013
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Kay 17: If God is discretional towards morality, what justification is there for him to be just??

If God isn't morally bound what justification is there for him to be just??
there are rational creatures that appreciates this qualities and can relate with it.

There are rational creatures that have freewill to excersis based on the application of this subtle values.

Besides, where did this 'intelligent creatures' got this 'subtle' attributes from ?

Well, i once heard of the word >>> "in his image"..............
Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Bible Quiz-you can join anytime... by truthislight: 6:27pm On Aug 09, 2013
modelmike7: . . . . . . Me n ko? This ladies here r just too fast, before i finish my research, pronto, they've all replied in record time, sometimes i cant just but applaud them. E no easy o. Even the latest class member, omodaddy is now a genius already. I really need to improve mehn!
cheesy

grin
Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Bible Quiz-you can join anytime... by truthislight:
Royally: @truthislight, I see ya!
shocked

wao! The last round was fourdaful, men! great job!

I enjoyed the quick fingers.
Christianity EtcRe: Best Religion Forum Topics by truthislight: 12:25pm On Aug 09, 2013
"Manmustwac sacked" thread, needed for posterity in the religious section:

https://www.nairaland.com/1388995/manmustwac-been-sacked

For ease of access since it has been moved to the General section.

Mmw was a mod in the religious section not in the General section.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Has Manmustwac Been Sacked? by truthislight: 12:10pm On Aug 09, 2013
FrostyZonn: Hello Seun,

I have a suggestion to make that might prevent similar situations like this MWM/Mac debacle from happening again. Here it is;

-I recommend you create another section called Christianity for Christians where Christians can come together for discussions and debates, and supervised by a Christian. Muslims are already enjoying that privilege, so why not extend it to the Christian folks as well? What is good for the goose is also good for the gander.

-The general religious section, which is currently being shared by Christians, atheist, Muslims(They have their own private club), Agnostics, Satanist, etc, should remain but unlike before should now be a true(real) meeting ground for debates from all people of the denominations I mentioned earlier. This is the section where a Christian should question a Muslim, and an atheist a Christian...and vice versa. This section should be better served if an Agnostic moderator(s) supervises it.

-A Muslim shouldn't be allowed to castigate the Christian religion in the Christianity for Christians section and vice versa, instead it should all be done at the general religion section. Any post addressed to Islam by Christians should be created there. The same goes to atheist and Muslims.

-Atheist will really like that because it will now give them the freedom to attack Muslims and Christians alike like they are wont to.

-Christians will like that because they now also have their own private club where they can discuss among themselves without looking over their shoulders all the time.

-Muslims are already enjoying that privilege and so would care more or less.

-Everyone is happy.
Best proposal so far. 100 Liked.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Has Manmustwac Been Sacked? by truthislight:
toba: Seun, as i posited earlier, if indeed you're on the verge of appointing new mods,(cos u said Jesoul was/is inactive) please appoint reasonable people that would not make you regret doing so.

Now on Nl we have different christians. the anti tithe, anti trinity, anti giving and pro everything.
Make sure you dont appoint a bisaed person that the other party would feel cheated. Appoint neutral christians.

Like Lagoshia would say in the islam section, the sunnis are cheating the shia muslims.

Also dont appoint immature newbie, except the oldies that knows well about the politics of nairaland 2005-2008. Both Jesoul and MMW were part of the old generation and they did well. A_K_O recommended Jesoul in 2010 and she hasn't done badly at all.

Here is a list of few unbiased Christians that may be considered

1 Enigma

2) Anony

3)Joagbaje
Is that ^ a Joke ?

Going by what you have said above ^.

"All trinitarians and tithe collectors" except one (none tithe collector > Enigma) cheesy.

We will soon drag this forum into bigotry.

@Seun, dont desterbilised your working team.

Tighten the bolt where it is slack.

My 2 cent.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Has Manmustwac Been Sacked? by truthislight: 10:33am On Aug 09, 2013
@Seun

Seun: @truthidlight: see your answers below
(1) I hereby call on Maclatunji to explain his reasons for hiding that post.
(2) When maclatunji gives his reasons, we will judge them with respect to the rules of Nairaland.
(3) When we have judged his actions, we will be able to answer this question.
thank you very much for attending to those questions.

If you properly addressed those, you will have inadvertently have addressed the reasons for most of the mutiny and complaints/frustrations in this forum.

From your reply, it is obvious that ordinarily mods should accord their fellow mods respect and consideration, which should be reciprocal amongst them.

Hoping that you see the query to the end of properly resolving it and setting a precedent hence.

Thank you for your response.

Peace.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Has Manmustwac Been Sacked? by truthislight: 12:29am On Aug 09, 2013
@Seun.

I had asked you some questions which you had said this below:

Seun: @truthislight: can you restate the questions you are asking me in a clearer way so I can answer them? Thanks.
but even after i had done as you had suggested Below.

truthislight: 1. Please, can you kindly explain to us why a fellow mod.(mactunji) Has the right/impetus to hide his fellow mods(Mmw) comment/post when Mmw made a complaint concerning @christkid thread that was locked by mactunji ?

2. Please, is that ^ action by Mod Mactunji a legal action going by the rules of this your forum for mods ?

Am asking since it seems that you did not address the reasons that causes frustration to Mmw.

3. If it is a wrong action for a mod. To hide the comment of a fellow mod, what will you do about it since it happened to Mmw or what are you doing about it ?

*Hoping you got it this time*
You still have not yet attended to the questions, why so ?


But you did attend to this below ignoring mine.

Seun: To answer your question, I believe I was told that you also threatened to abuse your mod powers, and you never disputed that claim.
Why ignore my questions ?

please attend to them.

Those questions are reality checks questions and your answers to them are very necessary and may help set a precedent to help curtail future frictions in your forum.

Peace.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Has Manmustwac Been Sacked? by truthislight:
Seun: @truthislight: can you restate the questions you are asking me in a clearer way so I can answer them? Thanks.
1. Please, can you kindly explain to us why a fellow mod.(mactunji) Has the right/impetus to hide his fellow mods(Mmw) comment/post when Mmw made a complaint concerning @christkid thread that was locked by mactunji ?

2. Please, is that ^ action by Mod Mactunji a legal action going by the rules of this your forum for mods ?

Am asking since it seems that you did not address the reasons that causes frustration to Mmw.

3. If it is a wrong action for a mod. To hide the comment of a fellow mod, what will you do about it since it happened to Mmw or what are you doing about it ?

*Hoping you got it this time*
Nairaland GeneralRe: Has Manmustwac Been Sacked? by truthislight:
Yeah!

@Seun, good day.

Please, can you kindly explain to us why a fellow mod. Has the right/impetus to hide his fellow mods comment/post ?

Please, is that ^ action legal by the rules of this your forum for mods ?

Am asking since it seems that you did not address the reasons that causes frustration to Mmw.

If it is wrong, what will you do about it, or what are you doing about it ?

This are your comments so far on this thread and that of your mouth piece:



Seun: Javanian is right.
Javanian: Sorry if my comment doesn't appeal to you i was only trying to clear the air, I would have done same if i were in Seun shoes, he is trying to protect his business, he spent years trying to take NL to his level you don't expect him to relax and do nothing he is protecting his empire....

All MMW has to do is p.m. Seun so that they can talk things out!
Seun: I understand the way you all are feeling. You feel as if the decision is pro-Islamist, but really it's not.

And Jesoul
I have decided to appoint one or two
born-again Christian moderators in this section to replace the atheist I removed.
Seun: It's unfortunate that the removal of manmustwac has been upsetting to you folks. Clearly he was a beloved moderator. I apologize for my role in his removal. However, manmustwac knew exactly what was going to happen when he made that threat. He saw what happened to MsDarkSkin, Odunnu, & Cuddlemii. I think he deserves at least as much blame for his role in this situation. Moreso he hasn't asked me to reinstate him.
Seun: We cannot have moderators abusing their powers or threatening to do so. Once I don't trust a moderator, he/she is gone.
Seun: He threatened to "take matters into his own hands" & "deal with" God-knows-what. I don't know what he is planning exactly, but we do not tolerate any threats against the forum made by people who are supposed to be the defenders and protectors of the forum. Most organizations have certain offences that are strictly prohibited and if you do them you will immediately lose your job.
Seun: Well I do. And I am not in the habit of waiting until our great forum has been damaged before dealing with threats. If a person is considered to pose any threat to the forum, such a person will not be allowed to wield the immense powers of a moderator. We have no tolerance for that.
^^^

please, answer those questions. You are the head, other mods are also reading.

the head always receives the knock for the failure of a family.

Thanks.
Christianity EtcRe: In What Way Is God Good? Inviting Mr Anony And Any Intersted Party by truthislight: 5:55pm On Aug 08, 2013
Kay 17: Yes God can do whatever he wishes with us and it is a demomstration of his Strength. However, if you claim God has an absolute discretion over human lives to an extent that such discretion is beyond ethical questioning, then whatever the Amalekites did is irrelevant.

Also it is weak for God to seek moral justifications and approval before every action.
Well, not when 'Justice' is said to be one of his cardinal attribute.
Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Bible Quiz-you can join anytime... by truthislight: 4:44pm On Aug 08, 2013
Yves4real: This particular answer has cleared my doubt concerning ur Bible. cool
grin
Christianity EtcRe: In What Way Is God Good? Inviting Mr Anony And Any Intersted Party by truthislight: 3:59pm On Aug 08, 2013
someone once argued this.

maybe this argument will make sense to you.

Humans that owns properties are entitled to do whatever they wishes with their personal properties.

But humans dont own or create nor give 'life' to any human, and all humans are entitled to 'life' and as such cannot take another persons life, hence it is illegal to take another persons life at will under normal Condition.

But as it is said:
"God is the giver of life". As such, life becomes his property.

If that ^ is true, the question of 'morality' concerning taking of life and giving of life changes were 'GOD' is concern from that of human, since humans are his properties and he can "do with his property the way he wishes" and is entitled to.

If that ^ is true, the demand and questioning of the 'taking of life' by any entity becomes an ethically wrong question and as such, null and void since it will take away the right of God to do with his property as he so wishes.

If then, human cannot question him for giving the 'life' at the first place, you cannot question him for taking it also.

Any question to that end is ill informed.

However, he does not abuse this absolutes of his.

The Amalikite reaped what they sowed.

Peace
Christianity EtcRe: OLAADEGBU, You Are Soiling DEEPER LIFE Reputation With Manipulation! by truthislight: 12:08pm On Aug 08, 2013
BERNIMOORE: ok, but Ola will concort deceit in form of cartoon to play down bible teaching, when he wants to evade a question or see the truth coming, he will put a cartoon. how can one learn an accurate truth with such divertion? grin grin
I pity Oladegbu, he has been brain washed by Kumuyi, that is why he is playing clown in this forum.

That is what man worship can cause to those who engage in It.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Has Manmustwac Been Sacked? by truthislight: 11:37am On Aug 08, 2013
Logicboy03: Goshen was speaking in riddles in a serious matter. You too,you were talking xxxx until i told you to shut up.


We should stick to the topic
you are becoming a distraction to this thread with your tantrums.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Has Manmustwac Been Sacked? by truthislight: 11:34am On Aug 08, 2013
to get Seun attention, a thread or a comment with a link to this thread can be made on other sections and mods thread inviting Seun here first.

Then, we hear from him first.

He deserves that ^ consideration and respect as the owner of the forum.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Has Manmustwac Been Sacked? by truthislight: 11:23am On Aug 08, 2013
Logicboy03: Is this Goshen a human being with a working brain? huh
STOP ATTACKING PEOPLE ON THIS THREAD, ELSE THE THREAD WILL BE LEFT TO YOU ALONE TO FIGHT.

Best you can do is correct a comment if you perceive a wrong statement.
Christianity EtcRe: Polytheists Vs Trinity by truthislight: 10:44am On Aug 08, 2013
Boomark: @benalvino
I never wish to respond to your post so that you can go on believing whatever you want but ijawkid my man say make i give im friend this ogbonge scripture make you take clear eye.

Mt 23:9
And do not call anyone on earth
father,' for you have one Father,
and he is in heaven.


this is similar to saying, "there are those that are called gods but we all have one God.

Will you tell/teach people that your biological father is a false father. Ie he is called a father but he is not actually a father. That Paul was a false father to timothy.

How about when he said, "obey your father and mother"? How will you twist this one? Abi na "Popsi" you go use change am. You have a choice to stick with the teachings of deluded people or to join us and enjoy the truth.
^
grin
lol.
guy you funny die. grin

But then, its the truth you stated there ^.

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