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Christianity EtcRe: A Short Story by truthislight: 7:51am On Apr 22, 2013
musKeeto: [size=15pt]DID ISAAC HAVE A SAY IN ANY OF THIS?[/size]
Rebels!

Did it occur to you that a son can Obey his farther and love Yahweh as far as death just as Jesus did?
Christianity EtcRe: A Short Story by truthislight: 7:48am On Apr 22, 2013
Van snickers: LOL, That my friend is the Implication of having a Conc Igbo accent and little/no education.
Thank you.
cool
Christianity EtcRe: God Hates Divorce by truthislight: 7:37am On Apr 22, 2013
@op.

Certain part of what you wrote there is what is called "over stepping the scriptures".

Some questions for you:

1. Was a certificate of divorce given for a broken engagement?

2. Did Jesus speech on divorce directed only to the Jews and not applicable to christians?

i. If yes, only to the Jews, why do we bother with it, or, why dont we christians give a certificate of divorce to our ex-fiancé?

ii. If not only to the Jews and it apply to christians, why dont we stone our wife to death today on ground of adultery?

iii. Again, since a certificate of divorce is not given for a broken engagement by both Jews and christians, why cant it be said that Jesus meant a woman that has committed adultery in a legal marriage = fornication?

iv. Is adultery not part of fornication by definition?

3. Are you saying that christians should not read the gospel of mathew, since you said it was written for Jews?

4. Do christians condone adultery and the church accept it, since christians will not stone the woman to death? What do christian/husband/wife do with it?

5. Is it possible that Jesus did not know the meaning of the word "fornication" that it includes adultery?

6. Did Jesus not also know the meaning of the word "certificate of divorce", since you ONLY applied it to the unmarried.

7. Why did Joseph not plan to give marry a certificate of divorce?
................................

Please answer those first.
Am waiting.
Peace.
Christianity EtcRe: A Short Story by truthislight: 9:43pm On Apr 21, 2013
cyrexx: Oga Truthislight,
I noticed you always misspell the word "waste" as "west". The correct spelling you are looking for is "waste". Please take note.

Cheers, bro.
Thank you.

cool
Christianity EtcRe: A Short Story by truthislight: 8:43pm On Apr 21, 2013
musKeeto: Oga truthisdarknes, abeg shine torch for us.. make man see wetin man no fit see.. the goodness in this story..


Interesting. So God's like 'I did a favor for you therefore you owe me everything'... I see.. Didn't the child Isaac have any 'rights' as a being? Reminds me of the 'Osus' in Igbo kingdom...


Lol.. so Isaac was a legible sacrifice? Cool story..



No one needs to paint the story black. It's in the Bible in black and white, do well to read it again.. Just this time, put yourself in Isaac's shoes...


Thanks for the advice. You sound hurt though, maybe cos I struck at an idea of God that exists in your head..

Issorai..
*sigh*
west of bandwidth.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does A Christian Need To Pay His/her Tithe? by truthislight: 8:11pm On Apr 21, 2013
Pastor Kun: @Goshen I just checked out your profile to confirm this statement and I must say your number of followers is indeed very impressive. It definitely means you are making a big impact on this forum. May God continue to bless and inspire you.
grin

I think it is about 1,000,000.
Lol.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does A Christian Need To Pay His/her Tithe? by truthislight: 8:08pm On Apr 21, 2013
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Christianity EtcRe: Hidden Truths About The Catholic Church Revealed! by truthislight: 6:26pm On Apr 21, 2013
italo: Are you saying Joshua sinned by lying prostrate before images in Joshua 7?

But God didnt rebuke him. Why do you?
God clearly said that his worshippers should not make images for themselves.

The only one that reserved the right to the contrary is Yahweh himself. He sets the standards for worship.

It was him that commanded that they build the ark and the brazen serpent.

No human, i repeat, no body has the right to do or make any design of any image without an express command from Yahweh.
So, it is a different thing when the almighty expressly give the command and when mere human decides to make images like pegans do.

So, the difference is whether Yahweh gave the command or he did not since he had said that no human should make images.

Deciding on your own to make image of mary and Jesus without an express instruction from the almighty and using such for worship is presumptiouseness.
Christianity EtcRe: Hidden Truths About The Catholic Church Revealed! by truthislight: 6:01pm On Apr 21, 2013
Richieboyn: LOL.....a drunk man lyk u never agrees he's drunk. Thank God for knowing you? U are of no use to me. @least not in area of my faith.
What do they teach you in your church?

Is this the way you make your evangelism?

Dont you think that your cursing on this your thread is too much?

Smh for you.

Hope you are not an atheist in the making.
Christianity EtcRe: A Short Story by truthislight:
Logicboy03: Yes, the fact that you are seriously failing in trying to explain how the village case is any different from the psycopath abraham ho was ready to kill his son. Nothing would ever make me agree to sacrifice my son. That is a statement a real father should make
That was why i had asked if you have the capacity to understand what had happened there between Abraham and Yahweh.

People with corrupted minds(sexually especially) do find it impossible to follow the ways of yahweh.

Check yourself.

Do you know/understand the responsibility to a benefactor?
Christianity EtcRe: A Short Story by truthislight: 5:28pm On Apr 21, 2013
Logicboy03: huh
Is there anything you have the capacity to understand?
Christianity EtcRe: A Short Story by truthislight: 5:22pm On Apr 21, 2013
Logicboy03: Who liked this blatant lie? smiley


I suspect frosbel or striky....both are idiotic enough
I never knew that frustration is tangible.
Christianity EtcRe: A Short Story by truthislight:
musKeeto: From a facebook friend smiley

I just want to tell a short story this morning, a real story actually.....
There was a couple in my village who were married for a long time, unfortunately, the marriage produced no child well into their old age. And then one day it happened, the wife suddenly took in and subsequently gave birth to what Nigerians call a bouncing baby boy.

Great news for the couple and everyone. The child was much loved by the parents and everyone in my village, and quickly he became a favorite of everyone in the village and was showered with love as an only child. He was his father’s shadow, anywhere you saw the father, you saw him. They were totally inseparable. They went everywhere together, even to the farm, since the father was a farmer.

One day, the mother (who didn’t always go to farm with them) decided to pay the father and son a surprise visit. When she got there, the sight she saw shocked her and she passed immediately. She needed to be told what happened afterwards. What did she see? Well, on getting to the farm, she saw her beloved child tied like a goat to a stake ready to be butchered, with her husband holding a cutlass in his hand ready and about to strike the child a deadly blow! This was an abomination! Everybody in the village riled,cursed and condemned the man. But when a wise elderly man asked him why did you want to take your only son’s life, He said in controlled, assured and almost divine voice “BECAUSE GOD TOLD ME TO SACRIFICE MY ONLY SON” Right there everyone proclaimed him mad and thus delivered him a befitting jungle justice.

What is your view on this? I bet you will say serves him right, he is an idiot, he is deranged, delusional, idiotic and ingrate. But if you are a monotheist, you have absolutely no right to condemn the man, because this is precisely what the originator of your religions did. Big brother commanded someone to kill his son to prove his faith and the person obeyed. How moral is it for all-knowing big brother to put someone to test, let alone that of killing his only sonhuh?

If anyone tells me do what all monotheist are told to do, and admire the man who wanted to gut his child because big brother told him to so do to prove his faith, I will tell the person hell no! f*”k you! That guy should be locked for child abuse, attempted murder, and locked up for life on the grounds of insanity.

Nb,
I made one joke, the story told happened only in my head, not in my village or anywhere, just had to joke to make the message sink in.

smiley
Your head could not carry the story well, is it deliberate?

Not when the old woman was passed the age of child bearing and had lost all hope of that possibility and has gotten another wife for her husband.

Only for the said God to come and tell her she will still have a male child and it all came to pass as told.

Not when the said God had physically demonstrated to you who he is and what he can do, even to make your seed uncountable

not when the whole villagers are aware that the said God gave you the said child.

Only corrupted minds withheld part of the story to paint the whole story black.

Have a life, it is not compusory that you worship Yahweh, but stop maligning his character.
*rot*
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are Churches In Nigeria Always Casting Out Demons From Their Members by truthislight: 1:24pm On Apr 21, 2013
rezzy: You have said it all.

Demons are everywhere looking for where to reside and as a believer, if you keep living a life of sin, they will come in to torment.

As per MFM, i love the way they do their deliverance, you pray your way out. The first time i went for deliverance, and a certain prayer point was made, i prayed it with all aggressiveness, i can see the result now.
What has demons to do with a disciple of christ?

Should it not be with those outside?
See:

"Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." (James 4:7).
.......................................................

Once you "resist the devil he will flee from you" the bible says let alone possesing you that it will need "casting out"
huh

Why are church members continually being posses by the devil?

Why is the church busy in the circle of binding and casting out Demons from there members year in year out?

Does the Demons see them as easy pray or they are easy pray for the Demons?

Is it this demon members that will go and make disciples?
Will they not transfer the Demons to the converts? Ns wao!


How are we sure that the Demons dont have a hold on them church members?

Smh.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are Churches In Nigeria Always Casting Out Demons From Their Members by truthislight: 12:52pm On Apr 21, 2013
rezzy: Yes, its all about casting demons because our forefathers packed all the idols (from God knows where) into our country Nigeria
Error!

"Go therefore and make disciples of people of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy spirit. " (Matthew 28:19).

The authority that was given to Jesus ensures that Demons cant do the disciples anything:

"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and on earth. " (Matthew 28:18).
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are Churches In Nigeria Always Casting Out Demons From Their Members by truthislight: 12:38pm On Apr 21, 2013
ijawkid: Muskeeto fit dey india dey worship one moulded elephant......grin.....
True!

He may be worshiping an elephant there that is why he will and is too ashamed to mention his god on this forum.

Maybe na cow sef. cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: I'm Amazed! by truthislight:
plaetton: Wow ! grin
This is an epic bombshell. cool
A christian finally admits that the bible is full of lies?
Praise the lord? huh
Thank you brother.
I dont know whether to laugh or cry.
I have always known that you atheist are a nut skull(nut job).

Your comprehension is highly suspect.

How can one ever understand my criticism of the post critical of Yahweh to mean that i am attacking the bible beats my imagination. huh

How do you read? Has your corrupted mind deluded you this much? Smh.

The story and accusation of the sacrifice of the daughter of Jephter is baseless and a function of low comprehension from nut case like you.
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plaetton: Praise the lord? huh
Thank you brother.
I dont know whether to laugh or cry.
delusion of grandure
Christianity EtcRe: I'm Amazed! by truthislight: 11:50am On Apr 21, 2013
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]no. i have heard enough.[/quote]Ok then, bye!
Christianity EtcRe: Intimate Temptations, Christians How Do You Cope? by truthislight: 7:57pm On Apr 20, 2013
Paschal007: Eh me i don't cope with that kind desire, i simply satisfy my urge. Goshen360 said sex between 2 unmarried adults is Not a sin. See life's good. cool
hehehe!

Chei! This person dey look for Goshen trouble o!

Guy, no mind am, him want carry your leg outside.


Goshen360: What did he said? Is that what you understood by what he said? Does the case of the OP fits into what he said? You're a liar! angry Remember, Who.res and who.re.mon.gers, God will judge. Christian Grace & liberty is not an opportunity to satisfy the flesh.
tell them o!

Lol. "Goshen say" grin
Christianity EtcRe: I'm Amazed! by truthislight: 3:25pm On Apr 20, 2013
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]so whatever you dont like is just cooked, eh? hypocrite.[/quote]What?

Did you wish to say something?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God by truthislight: 3:24pm On Apr 20, 2013
shdemidemi: use the scriptures to back whatever you say, no one really cares about how your understanding or lack of it. Just back whatever you think by the scriptures and counter what the scripture says about The WORD coming to us as flesh.
cool
Christianity EtcRe: Intimate Temptations, Christians How Do You Cope? by truthislight: 3:09pm On Apr 20, 2013
Paschal007: Eh me i don't cope with that kind desire, i simply satisfy my urge. Goshen360 said sex between 2 unmarried adults is Not a sin. See life's good. cool
lol grin. ^^

smh
IslamRe: Why I Left Islam - By Alaya Mukti Akhtar by truthislight: 2:57pm On Apr 20, 2013
grin
shoaib khan: You fucking bitch how dare u to say about Allah about prophet and about Islam you mother Bleep if u come in from of me means really how I will kill u no your body should not get to any1 more then that I will kill u fucking bitch.....what do u no about Islam for u bloody bitch ....all are fake words of yours you fucking bitch....if u have born to your parents if u have born from your mothers stomach and if u have born for your father once come in front of me...then see..
U dint read Quran so what all came in your mouth u said fucking bitch.....Allah will not live u for this blind mistake which u did in your life you bleeped your life from your hands if u won't stop this fake washing mind of others really animals should hate your body like that I will kill u bitch mind it and your not have to take good names from your bloody mouths ...of Allah and prophet ok mind it....you should go for hell fire you said about my Allah and prophet u should go for hell this is my request from Allah.....
lol. grin

What with the "bleep" mate?

Hehehehehe!
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus -carpenter, Peter -fisherman, Paul -tentmaker! Your Pastor -> Pastor? by truthislight: 12:04pm On Apr 20, 2013
nuclearboy: Fhemmy/Image123:

I am a christian and I know a pastor who used to be a bank branch manager in Ibadan. Suddenly he said He felt led to go to a "provincial area" where NEPA hadn't even got to and minister as a pastor there. Apparently they were very ritualistic etc. Guy left his official and personal cars, his bodija duplex and went into the bush with his family. THAT IS A FATHER in the context you speak of. Its 8 years and now he's doing fine. When I heard about him, I decided my resources would be available to him and till date, they are. His family lacks nothing because more people have come to know of his ways and i have seen him recieve a half million at a time. Funnily, I recently heard he got a vehicle from an admirer but sold it and gave the proceeds towards building a school laboratory for the people he lives with. The guy who gave him the car then bought another immediately which we together compelled him to keep. Would you by any chance imagine I am speaking of this type of pastor above?

Jesoul:

I get your point and it is very well made. However, the injunction remains that whist everything is lawful, not all is expedient. Such is how I understand Paul in his words above - and my first point is it was lawful to him but he realised it was not expedient and fled from the semblance of evil.

Secondly, do you really need 3 SUVs, a private jet, bi-annual family holidays in the bahamas, etc in the midst of the deprivation that is Nigeria's lot? You Jesoul, may have been away for too long - those of us here see the poverty in the populace and the anger in the youths. I was born in the North and they are angry: they have nothing to live for (as far as they are concerned and the proof of that is in how much they value life) plus we know that majority of our youth can perform only menial labor. They are so poor that they cannot afford to learn a trade like carpentry or masonry. I challenge anyone to show me where such exist as the standard today. These people can be helped to learn a trade or be schooled rather than being idle and thus providing a workshop for satan. You drive past and feel the malevolence.

I sincerely cannot understand how comfortable people can live in the midst of so much resentment which could so easily be helped by a fraction of what goes into cars for our "big-men". I left the north and swore never to go back because I was always scared.

Maybe I over-react when I post like this but try to look past the facade and ask; do we really need this level of luxury? To build schools too expensive for our congregation and then we do not even send our own children there but to foreign schools? shocked Look at the example I gave above of a pastor and compare to what obtains.

I fear for our future because the gutter is coming into the streets. Please read an article I saw way back http://aderinola./2007/06/30/is-lagos-the-most-dangerous-city-in-the-world/ with particular note to the first two responses to the article then give a moral justification for this rot in the house of God
Hehehehe.

Lol at that ^.

That was 2010 that they were using SUV, now they are using private jet. No, private jetssss grin
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God by truthislight: 11:37am On Apr 20, 2013
^^^
Christians that should be helping others to be "set free" are in themselves constantly fighting Demons.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God by truthislight: 11:34am On Apr 20, 2013
Will you people carry this your demonic three gods away from here?

This demonic teaching that drews Demons to you people, that made you to keep on binding and casting Withing yourselves in your churches when you are supposed to have been "set free".

*sigh*
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are Churches In Nigeria Always Casting Out Demons From Their Members by truthislight: 10:59am On Apr 20, 2013
akin emma: I knew from the begining of your post where you are going to and that is to attack MFM.Since all this while you've been condemning churches,how many souls have you won to God's kingdom?
Is it only mfm that cast out Demons from its members?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are Churches In Nigeria Always Casting Out Demons From Their Members by truthislight: 8:28am On Apr 20, 2013
frosbel: No one is disputing that the power of GOD is available for the casting out of demons etc, our talk is about the endemic situation in many churches , where this is practiced more on the believers than unbelievers. Should believers not be mostly free from demonic possession ?

Surely there is something seriously wrong if these demons keep coming back , no ? Also what about MFM, where they are on a 24/7 , 365 days a year onslaught against real and perceived enemies , is this the gospel , to fight our enemies and take our eyes off the sole objective of our calling ?
A business associate i know, has a daughter that sings for her church, she was brought home with some of her front dentures/tooth gone.

On enquiries, we were told she hard a demon attack while she was singing in front of the whole congregation on a sunday service as such she fell with her face to the ground and loses her front dentures/tooths and prayers were held to expel the demon there in the church befor she came back. huh sad

She hard never hard such attack befor, she is a teenager or so.
sad
Christianity EtcRe: I'm Amazed! by truthislight: 8:05am On Apr 20, 2013
mantraa: Welcome to the forum, I hope you are open minded and dont mind answering genuine sincere questions about the bible to help us better understand why you love Yahweh / Jesus.

Please explain how you can equate these atrocities and horrendously immoral crimes against humanity with the loving, merciful, forgiving, and omniscient god that you worship?

1. God drowns the whole earth.
In Genesis 7:21-23, God drowns the entire population of the earth: men, women, children, fetuses, and perhaps unicorns. Only a single family survives. In Matthew 24:37-42, gentle Jesus approves of this genocide and plans to repeat it when he returns.

2. God kills half a million people.
In 2 Chronicles 13:15-18, God helps the men of Judah kill 500,000 of their fellow Israelites.

3. God slaughters all Egyptian firstborn.
In Exodus 12:29, God the baby-killer slaughters all Egyptian firstborn children and cattle because their king was stubborn.

4. God kills 14,000 people for complaining that God keeps killing them.
In Numbers 16:41-49, the Israelites complain that God is killing too many of them. So, God sends a plague that kills 14,000 more of them.

5. Genocide after genocide after genocide.
In Joshua 6:20-21, God helps the Israelites destroy Jericho, killing “men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.” In Deuteronomy 2:32-35, God has the Israelites kill everyone in Heshbon, including children. In Deuteronomy 3:3-7, God has the Israelites do the same to the people of Bashan. In Numbers 31:7-18, the Israelites kill all the Midianites except for the virgins, whom they take as spoils of war. In 1 Samuel 15:1-9, God tells the Israelites to kill all the Amalekites – men, women, children, infants, and their cattle – for something the Amalekites’ ancestors had done 400 years earlier.

6. God kills 50,000 people for curiosity.
In 1 Samuel 6:19, God kills 50,000 men for peeking into the ark of the covenant. (Newer cosmetic translations count only 70 deaths, but their text notes admit that the best and earliest manuscripts put the number at 50,070.)

7. 3,000 Israelites killed for inventing a god.
In Exodus 32, Moses has climbed Mount Sinai to get the Ten Commandments. The Israelites are bored, so they invent a golden calf god. Moses comes back and God commands him: “Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.” About 3,000 people died.

8. The Amorites destroyed by sword and by God’s rocks.
In Joshua 10:10-11, God helps the Israelites slaughter the Amorites by sword, then finishes them off with rocks from the sky.

9. God burns two cities to death.
In Genesis 19:24, God kills everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah with fire from the sky. Then God kills Lot’s wife for looking back at her burning home.

10. God has 42 children mauled by bears.
In 2 Kings 2:23-24, some kids tease the prophet Elisha, and God sends bears to dismember them. (Newer cosmetic translations say the bears “maul” the children, but the original Hebrew, baqa, means “to tear apart.”)

11. A tribe slaughtered and their virgins Molested for not showing up at roll call.
In Judges 21:1-23, a tribe of Israelites misses roll call, so the other Israelites kill them all except for the virgins, which they take for themselves. Still not happy, they hide in vineyards and pounce on dancing women from Shiloh to take them for themselves.

12. 3,000 crushed to death.
In Judges 16:27-30, God gives Samson strength to bring down a building to crush 3,000 members of a rival tribe.

13. A concubine Molested and dismembered.
In Judges 19:22-29, a mob demands To Molest a godly master’s guest. The master offers his daughter and a concubine to them instead. They take the concubine and gang-molestation her all night. The master finds her on his doorstep in the morning, cuts her into 12 pieces, and ships the pieces around the country.

14. Child sacrifice.
In Judges 11:30-39, Jephthah burns his daughter alive as a sacrificial offering for God’s favor in killing the Ammonites.

15. God helps Samson kill 30 men because he lost a bet.
In Judges 14:11-19, Samson loses a bet for 30 sets of clothes. The spirit of God comes upon him and he kills 30 men to steal their clothes and pay off the debt.

16. God demands you kill your wife and children for worshiping other gods.
In Deuteronomy 13:6-10, God commands that you must kill your wife, children, brother, and friend if they worship other gods.

17. God incinerates 51 men to make a point.
In 2 Kings 1:9-10, Elijah gets God to burn 51 men with fire from heaven to prove he is God.

18. God kills a man for not impregnating his brother’s widow.
In Genesis 38:9-10, God kills a man for refusing to impregnate his brother’s widow.

19. God threatens forced cannibalism.
In Leviticus 26:27-29 and Jeremiah 19:9, God threatens to punish the Israelites by making them eat their own children.

20. The coming slaughter.
According to Revelation 9:7-19, God’s got more evil coming. God will make horse-like locusts with human heads and scorpion tails, who torture people for 5 months. Then some angels will kill a third of the earth’s population. If he came today, that would be 2 billion people.

Now, Christians have spent thousands of years coming up with excuses for a loving god that would allow or create such evil. In fact, they’ve come up with 12 basic responses, which are the subject of The Tale of the Twelve Officers.

http://commonsenseath...

For much more horrendous quotes from the 'holy' bible look at this website.
http://www.evilbible....


Many respects
the truth is that those ^ are verses taken out of context from the BIBLE and without insight and regard for who Yahweh is, the almighty God and the creator of the univers.

Some of the stories are cooked like that of Jephter while others are embedded with lies.

That said, someone without background and indepth knowledge of the OT will read those and passed a sentence without getting the other side of the story and reasons scattered in other path of the OT as to why those actions were taken and conclude to his own destruction.

Yahweh is a God of justice.

Considering Yahweh without seeing the other entity called satan and the part him and his Worshpers played to stop the coming of the massaiah through Israel is daft indeed.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are Churches In Nigeria Always Casting Out Demons From Their Members by truthislight: 10:36pm On Apr 19, 2013
"And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies." (Revelation 18:2-3).

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