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Christianity EtcRe: Prominent American Muslim, Umar Lee, Leaves Islam and goes back to Jesus by truthislight: 10:32pm On May 18, 2013
frosbel: ^^^

His point really is that he was deceived with lies, especially because of the immense hypocrisy he witnessed as a Muslim.

It might be useful though , if you help us shed some light on some of the accusations he has raised, we might put this matter to rest.
But really, what is Islam really afraid of?

We are never going to hid the truth, afraid of, ashamed of, the truth are we?

Smh for them.
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Things About Hell by truthislight: 8:44pm On May 18, 2013
Image123: ^
i do not particularly enjoy pouring water into baskets.
who cares?

Unless you mean poison which is what you have.
Christianity EtcRe: 10 Things About Hell by truthislight: 8:42pm On May 18, 2013
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Christianity EtcRe: 10 Things About Hell by truthislight:
Image123: 1. Hell is real.
2. The wicked shall be turned into hell and all the nations that forget God.
"Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance. Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption." (Acts 2:27-31).
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Jesus went to "hell" ^. huh

The word hell is a latin word that its meaning has nothing to do with the Jews that Yahweh gave his words to.

How can someone that traslated the hebrew word Sheol/grave/pit to hell be doing a sane thing?

huh

The word refering to fire that Jesus mentioned is Gehena >>> a refuse dump outside the wall of Jeruselam, sustain by fire.(go figure out)

That people later translated the bible into latin Years later and introduced the word "hell" is their cup of tea and a foreign idea to the Jews.

See what Jesus told the samaritans woman:

"Jesus said to her, Woman, believe me, the hour is coming when you shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem worship the Father. You worship what you dont know we know what we worship: for salvation originated with the Jews. " (John 4:21-22).
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So, of what use is the latin word "hell" to the Jews and to me?

Nothing!
Christianity EtcRe: Hell Is Real! by truthislight: 6:04pm On May 18, 2013
Kay 17: ^^ if God is capable of doing such a wicked heinous act of creating hell even for the devil, then God is pure form wickedness and debauchery
Pastor Olu T: smile, you do not know God my friend.

One question i have for you is that do you know all things about life? huh
^^^

You are bringing a reproach to God on this thread.
Christianity EtcRe: Hell Is Real! by truthislight:
Kay 17: @pastor

From the dictionary meaning, evil also suggests wickedness and depravity. Hell itself as an everburning furnace into which millions of people will be thrown in for sins they have inherited.
It is no doubt Hell is wicked and unjust.

God created Evil to resolve evil? Can two wrongs make a right?
^ truth!

It is an unjust teaching.

The Latin word hell and its meaning has nothing to do with the Jews whom God gave his word.

The word hell and its meaning/teaching is an insult to Yahweh and portrays God as unjust.
Christianity EtcRe: Nigerian Churches Stink With Corruption - David-west by truthislight: 3:56pm On May 18, 2013
frosbel: Very true, this is what the bible says about such :

"Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron." - 1 Timothy 4:2
"And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12).
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This is because they dont have the love of the truth(word of God):

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry." (2 Timothy 4:3-5).
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Most people just want to hear that they are millioneers.



cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Still About Death: Inviting Mr Anony And Any Other Interested Parties. by truthislight: 10:14pm On May 17, 2013
thehomer: Was that light the sun?
cry
Christianity EtcRe: About Abortion. by truthislight: 9:09pm On May 17, 2013
Errrm, errrm.
*clears threath*

the below post by @mr Anony was and is the Game winner am afraid, unless proved otherwise

Mr anony:
Would you also grant that you are still the same person even though more or less all the cells that constituted your body when you were 2 years old are now dead?

If the above is true then I am justified in saying that
a zygote is the same person as the embryo at 1 week old,
the same person as the foetus at 6 months old,
the same person as the baby at 1 year,
same as the teenager at 15,
the same as the adult today
and will still be the same as the elderly person 40 years from now.
All that happened is that this zygote grew.

Now if you accept that you are the same person that was born to your mother, then I don't see why that baby is not the same as the zygote that was formed at fertilization. You are the same human being all through your life from conception to death regardless of which parts of your body you may lack or have lacked at any point in time.
^ Absolutely and perfectly stated.

*hands over the cup for the Debate of this thread to Anony*

cool
Christianity EtcRe: Still About Death: Inviting Mr Anony And Any Other Interested Parties. by truthislight:
thehomer: The fact that the so-called creator of the universe that is all powerful somehow doesn't really know what is on this little planet earth. The book of Genesis tells us that plants existed before the sun.
"And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." (Genesis 1:2-3).
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^, is it a reading problem or a "heart" problem?

If it is a reading difficulty, get glasses.

Peace.
Christianity EtcRe: Tithing: Low-realm, Obsolete And Defunct - Chapters 1 & 7 by truthislight: 9:06am On May 17, 2013
Kay 17: Your idea of God is a learning God??
cry

it is a pity.

What was he trying to say?
Smh.
Christianity EtcRe: The Very Good Wine by truthislight: 12:42am On May 17, 2013
OLAADEGBU: The Very Good Wine
November 25, 2011

"When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, . . . |he| called the bridegroom, And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now" (John 2:9-10).

The Lord Jesus performed many miracles during His brief ministry on earth, and it seems rather surprising that the beginning of miracles (John 2:11) in His earthly ministry was to transform water into wine at a wedding feast in Galilee. It was quite a large amount of wine--six large waterpots full, "containing two or three firkins apiece" (John 2:6). Since a firkin is about ten gallons, Jesus created approximately 150 gallons of wine to give to a group of celebrants who already had "well drunk" (John 2:10)--that is, literally, were drunk.

But would Jesus really do something to increase the intoxication of a crowd of people who were already drunk? Would He really disregard such Scriptures as Habakkuk 2:15: "Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink, . . . and makest him drunken also" (among many others). He Himself had rebuked drunkenness (e.g., Luke 21:34), so this would be completely out of character.

But wine never becomes intoxicating until the decay process of fermentation has done its work. The wine He created was probably the same as "the fruit of the vine" that we shall drink "new" with Him in His "Father's kingdom" (Matthew 26:29). The Greek word oinos can apply either to the decayed, fermented liquid that intoxicates or to the healthful juice fresh off the grape vine, depending on context. And this wine He made was good wine, just as everything He had created was "very good" (Genesis 1:31) in that ultimate beginning of miracles when first He "created all things" (Revelation 4:11). HMM

For more . . . .
Pastor Kun: @Olaadegbu
You still haven't repented from this your biblical gymnastics of forcing your silly opinion and biases into scriptures.
italo: The good wine Jesus created was just like the good wine "everyman usually set forth at the beginning". The difference is that other people would bring worse wine when people were drunk presuming that they wouldn't know the difference, but Jesus ensures that good wine was still being brought forth even after men were drunk.

So its either the good wine @ d beginning and the good wine "created" by Jesus were both alcoholic, or they were both non-alcoholic.

And non-alcoholic wine cannot make men well-drunk. Thank you.
"Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise." (Proverbs 20:1).
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That ^ is what wine in Israel is and does.
Leave the shameless liar
Christianity EtcRe: Femi Aribisala: Every Pastor Who Collects Tithes Is A Thief by truthislight: 8:50pm On May 16, 2013
nep2ra: I agree with you that I have given full vent to my temper when provoked. Equally true is the fact that I have used expletives when I got so passionate and angry about a particular topic or when replying to some obnoxious bonehead. I am NOT a saint and I don't pretend to be one. I have studied the Bible and still study it from time to time to respond to rogues and frauds like you who parade about looking for who to deceive.

You have no right to sit on your high horse and talk about edification. You are a fraud of the highest order. Your lies even if covered with honey are not to enough to hide your true hypocritical nature.

If you think you can come on here to peddle your falsehood, you better have a rethink.
I agree with you.

Anyone that is using the bible for a reason other than preaching about the gospel of christ is a fraud and a thief.

cool sad
Christianity EtcRe: Where Are All The Real Pastors? by truthislight: 3:07pm On May 16, 2013
OLAADEGBU: Anyone is free to run their mouths or hands to say anything they want but they must be ready to provide the evidence and be responsible. Are you saying that you are a witness to the accusations false Pastor Kun made? and can you show me where false doctrines are on the public domain? if you are not a false witness and an accuser of the brethren.
What are you about with "public domain"?

We are talking about what he posted on this thread.

Are you saying you did not see what he posted?

What is the difference between your public domain and what he posted?
Christianity EtcRe: Tithing: Low-realm, Obsolete And Defunct - Chapters 1 & 7 by truthislight: 1:55pm On May 16, 2013
Kay 17: God's Word, considering his omniscience,
Can you show me that ^ word in the bible and?

Are you sure it is not your word (human knowledge) that you wish to input into the bible?

Pls, if it is not in the bible, you can keep it, i am not interested.
Thanks. cool
Christianity EtcRe: A Question For The 'Believer'... by truthislight: 8:29am On May 16, 2013
Ubenedictus: and my point is that the words don't need to be found in the kjv for it to discribe a biblical reality!
I don't need to show you the word instead you should provide the authority that say a word shouldn't be used in a bible discussion if d word isn't in the bible.
*sigh*

Waste of my precious time!

If it is not a bible word it is not a bible word. QED.

Can you reward me with eternal life?

So, why should i take your ideas/words?
Christianity EtcRe: Tithing: Low-realm, Obsolete And Defunct - Chapters 1 & 7 by truthislight: 12:45am On May 16, 2013
OLAADEGBU: Wow! Here is one claiming to be greater than father Abraham, how then can you be his son?
Can you show where he claims to be greater than Abraham?

If you cannot then you are a fraud and a liar and and you know liars will not ..........
Christianity EtcRe: Tithing: Low-realm, Obsolete And Defunct - Chapters 1 & 7 by truthislight: 8:33pm On May 15, 2013
Kay 17: ^^

The problem with the OP is, it takes the Word of God as temporary. God when making his Covenant with Abraham, never anticipated an end to it. And God's Word is his Word, it subsists permanently.
"For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law." (Hebrews 7:12).
Christianity EtcRe: Where Are All The Real Pastors? by truthislight: 8:06pm On May 15, 2013
OLAADEGBU: The onus probandi is still on you to prove any of them false and if you don't you and those lemming you should remain silent perpetually.
My friend, who are the "those" ^ you are refering to?

Did you not see the doctrines he posted earlier?

Why are you looking for trouble sef? angry
Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by truthislight: 7:44pm On May 15, 2013
worthson: Jesus Christ is pleading with you,repent and avoid hell!
Hell is a latin word and it has a latin meaning to those that have that language, this word and it meaning has nothing to do with the Jews, the people that Yahweh gave his word.

Bringing a foreign concept into a Jewish teaching that was given to them by Yahweh is a west of time and foolishness.

Find out the meaning of Gehena if you may.

Peace.
Christianity EtcRe: Femi Aribisala: Every Pastor Who Collects Tithes Is A Thief by truthislight: 1:55pm On May 15, 2013
Pastor Kun: Don't mind the rogue, he knows the truth you just wrote here but his love for filthy lucre and defrauding believers of their money would always make him continue to misrepresent scriptures to suit his evil agenda.
"Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled. Labour not for the meat(bread) which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. " (John 6:26-27).

Let them keep struggling for tithes.

"Bread that perished" is what they are after, they are not attracted to the other message of christ that leads to eternal life.

They think christ is foolish!

Smh for over emphasis on money and Tithe.

Why cant they love christ for who he is?
Christianity EtcRe: Femi Aribisala: Every Pastor Who Collects Tithes Is A Thief by truthislight:
Bidam: grin wolf in sheep skin..did i welcome you back? i didn't miss you like others did. tongue
Actually i did welcomed him back! (Frosbel).

So. Whats your point?
Christianity EtcRe: I Saw It...and Now It Must Pay... by truthislight: 8:32pm On May 13, 2013
musKeeto: Get well soon.. NOt that we miss you,
you mean you miss sucking his blood or you were still sucking his blood while he was down?

Heartless!
tongue

musKeeto: but get well cool
when you have finish draining his blood?

musKeeto: And why do I feel guilty? tongue
because you made him sick and still continue draining his blood still. tongue
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight: 8:04pm On May 13, 2013
manmustwac: cassava stick is very rude and insultive he can't post without using obscene language so i banned him angry
Yes boss!

That is Withing your powers, that is why we need a mod to keep things under control here. cool.

I belief he would have gotten the message.

meanwhile, I hope he was not provoked into acting that way though, however, the nature of ban may lead to a member opening this 01, 02, 03,..... Kind of ID's.

What about a consistent close-up "marking" with a 1 or 2hrs banning as he repeats the offence?
The poster may not see the need to go through the processes of opening newer account but stay out the short time.

This short interruption is what no body actually does want.

I personally may open another account if banned till 2035 if i still wish to post. cool

to help manage that ^, the more annoying consistent repeated banning for 1, 2hrs will most likely drive home the massage and achieve the required result of ensuring compliance to the rules since the dude will most likely know what comes next should he default again.

Messing up the whole forum with unwanted ID and hidden post is not necessary.

I think this can be resolved amicably.

My 2cent.

Peace
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight:
musKeeto: awwww. who banned the cute cassava stick... tongue
Yeah!

Seems some funny things(ugly actually) is happening in this forum. cool

This complaint thread is kind of littered with hidden post at an unusual rate in the past week. cool

some fellas (members) seems to be having a kind of Logicboy's/macdady's kind of problem. (01, 02, 03, 04, 05..... On an individuals ID it seems.) cool

what is really happening? huh

Hoping that both parties will excersis restrained. cool

we will appreciate a respected forum where things are not overdone though. cool

cool ,
Christianity EtcRe: Hello Every One, Has Any One Seen FROSBEL? Am Missing Him 1000much. by truthislight: 1:18am On May 11, 2013
Goshen360: ^ YES! He is back from a brief break.
^

Yap.

Its like.

Welcome though, senioreta frobel. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Where Are All The Real Pastors? by truthislight: 12:57am On May 11, 2013
frosbel: Hi Bro, I am around , not to worry. smiley

Hope all is well.

God Bless.
Yap, we are good, but we have been missing your inputs.

https://www.nairaland.com/1276972/hello-every-one-one-seen
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight: 5:12pm On May 10, 2013
striktlymi: My mind aint brilliant tongue

I am just a puny brained religious idiiot grin
Yooguyz: thank God you know, we need to see more of true confessions like this, from time to time...
Cheers!
Dammed!

Lol. You asked for it. grin
Christianity EtcRe: A Question For The 'Believer'... by truthislight: 4:42pm On May 10, 2013
For a very bad job you are:
Ubenedictus: *waving and smiling*
Really!

When you could not show us where those words are found in the bible?

Smh for you.
Christianity EtcRe: A Question For The 'Believer'... by truthislight: 4:37pm On May 10, 2013
Ubenedictus: "bible word"?
Yes, not bible words.

If they are, show it to us or stop whinning.

This should be very simple. No?

Show us then!

Imagine!

See the confussion you people have created.

Just go ahead and show us, very simple for y'all to do. No?

Then, dont push it down our throat if you cant show us please. Aba! Na by force?

*sigh*
Christianity EtcRe: A Question For The 'Believer'... by truthislight: 4:27pm On May 10, 2013
Ubenedictus: your understanding of language is just disturbing!

Very disturbing!

You don't need the exact words to be in the bible! Omniscient-know all thing, do you need the word omniscient to be there before you believe God is omniscient?? No. Does the bible say God know all things? Yes. Does that mean he is omniscient? Yes!

So how come you need the word omniscient in the bible?
Keep disturbing yourself, those words are not found in the bible, or, why not show us those words in the bible if they are bible words?

If you cannot show us those words in the bible, then, everly keep your peace cause those are not bible words. QED.

truthislight: There are TOO MANY coinage of words/concepts in christiandom that are not found in the bible itself but Given a definition according to human understanding and then attempting to use the bible to justify them.

Are the following words found in the bible itself? :

1. Ominisciece
2. Omnipotent
3. Ominipresence
4. Rapture
5. Purgatry
6. Limbo
7. "Immortalsoul"
8. Transubstantiation
9. Easter/christmas(etc)
10. Trinity

(I stand corrected if those ^ exact words are found in the bible)

humans having coined out those words and defining them end up creating confussion for themselves and for the bible.

Then started the debate that detracts from the essence of the bible simple message = eternal life for humans.

Smh.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Are All The Real Pastors? by truthislight: 2:27pm On May 10, 2013
frosbel: Nice article !
Frobel, how far? you have been missing in action.

Hope we will see more of you.

Peace

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