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Islam › Re: Qur'an 109:6: The Height Of Hypocrisy by truthman2012(op): 3:15pm On Apr 17, 2016*

Visitor700:
[size=17][Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Quran 8:39)][/size]

[size=15](And fight them until there is no more Fitnah...).'' Ibn `Umar said, "We did that during the time of the Messenger of Allah, when Islam was weak and the man would be tried in religion, either tormented to death or being imprisoned. When Islam became stronger and widespread, there was no more Fitnah.''

(until there is no more Fitnah) the Fitnah mentioned here means, until no Muslim is persecuted so that he abandons his religion.[/size]

[size=17][Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Quran 9:29)][/size]

[size=15]Allah said, (until they pay the Jizyah), if they do not choose to embrace Islam.[/size]

So you believe in Tafsir by Ibn Kathir there but you don't believe it here:

Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71:
Surah 19:71: “Not one of you but will pass through it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished.”
Imam Ahmad narrated that Sulaiman Ibn Harb narrated that Khalid Ibn Sulaiman narrated that Kathir Ibn Ziad Al- Barsani narrated that Abu Sumaya said, "We differed about the meaning of ‘Passing through it’ (wari-duha). For some of us said that no believer will enter hell and others said all (people) shall enter it and then Allah will save those who have done righteousness. Then I met Jabir Ibn Abdallah and I informed him that we differed about the meaning of, ‘Pass through it,’ and he replied that, “Everyone shall enter it.” (Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71, Translated from Arabic)

Another Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71:
Narrated by Abdel Razak, narrated by Ibn Ayena narrated by Amru who told us that he heard Ibn Abbas feud with Nafi Ibn Al-Azraq regarding the meaning of, ‘Entering (Al-wurood).’ He said it meant ‘Entering (Hell),’ but Nafi disagreed. Thus Ibn Abbas read (Surah 21:98) “‘Verily ye, and the gods that ye worship besides Allah, are but fuel for Hell! To it will ye surely will enter (Wardan),’ and asked did they enter or not? He also read (Surah 11:98) ‘He will go before his people on the Day of Judgment, and lead them (Awrada-hum) into the fire: but woeful indeed will be the place (Wird) to which they are led (Al-mawrud)!’ Did they enter or not?[b]As for you and I, we will enter it but let us see if we will exit from it and I don’t see Allah taking you out of it because you lie (regarding its meaning[/b]).” Nafi then laughed.

Narrated by Ibn Jarir, narrated by Atta who stated that Abu Rashid Al-Harury, who is called Nafi Ibn Al-Azraq, said, "They (the believers) will not hear hell’s roar." So Ibn Abbas responded, "Woe to you! Are you insane? What of Allah’s verse (Surah 11:98) ‘He will go before his people on the Day of Judgment, and lead them (Awrada-hum) into the fire,’ and also the verse (Surah 19:86) ‘And We shall drive the sinners to hell being lead (Wirdan)’? And also the verse (Surah 19:71) ‘Not one of you but will pass (Waridu-ha) through it’? By Allah, the supplication of those who lived previously used to be, ‘O Allah take me out of hell fire peacefully and allow me to enter paradise victorious.’" (Tafsir by Ibn Kathir on Surah 19:71, Translated from Arabic) Source: Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Saudi Arabia.

Again, it was Meccan pagans that muslims claim persecuted Muhammad, not the Jews and Christians. Then, why was Muhammad persecuting the Jews and killing them?

You islamists on nairaland have been trying hard to deny that Muhammad didn't kill the Jews but ordered them to pay tax. It shows you know it is immoral to kill them, more so as they were not the ones who persecuted him.

Ishaq 464
The Jews were made to come down, and Allah’s Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina, and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men.

Christianity Etc › Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by truthman2012(op): 2:54pm On Apr 17, 2016

Silsilah:
Chai! OK, but wait ooo! How did you know that verse is true? Don't you think it's also a lie

I know it is true because it tallies with the Bible.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by truthman2012(op): 10:48am On Apr 17, 2016

Silsilah:
Haba! Bros abi na Lady, Why are you contradicting yourself naa The verse you used to justify the authenticity of the Bible must be "one of the few truth in the Qur'an" abi

Yes !!!

Plain and pure falsehood is easy to detect, but when plenty of lies are mixed with a few truths, it becomes complicated. The quran is a mixture of plenty of lies with a few truths. It is the few truths that blinded people's eyes to the falsehoods.

Islam › Re: Qur'an 109:6: The Height Of Hypocrisy by truthman2012(op): 7:13am On Apr 17, 2016

Visitor700:
As for (Quran 8:39), fighting was ordained here because the muslims were killed for refusing to renounce islam. (Quran 9:29) sanctions muslims to recover jizyah from non-muslims.

Liar !!!

Bring proof.

What I read is that Muhammad was the first to attack the people for not believing in his allahh.

Christianity Etc › Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by truthman2012(op): 7:02am On Apr 17, 2016

truthman2012:
Lol !!! The usual lame excuse.

Can you tell me what existed in the time of Muhammad, because the Jews and Christian Scriptures that existed then were confirmed authentic ?

There were Christians in the time of Muhammad and there was no difference in what they believed then and what we believe now as the quran makes us to understand. As our Christian belief now is the same as it was in the days of Muhammad, it would make no sense that the Bible now is not the same as in the time of Muhammad. Now see what the quran says about the Christians in Muhammad's time:

And when there cometh unto them a Scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession (Quran 2:89).
First, this verse makes it clear that the Scripture in Jews' and Christians' possession at Muhammad's time is the TRUTH as the quran came to confirm and not to correct it. To confirm means to say it is true or authentic. [b]But why did Allah still say it is changed or corrupted?[/b]Second, if the quran came to confirm the earlier Scripture, why the differences? Allahh was manipulative here.

How come they come unto the (i.e Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)? Yet even after that they turn away. Such (folk) are not believers (Quran 5:43).
Even at Muhammad's time till today the Torah was valid for judgment. Or when was it changed and by who?

Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that
which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-doers (Quran 5:47).
The Gospel was also valid for judgment at Muhammad's time and till date. Or when was it changed and by who?

Say: "O People of the Book! (i.e the Jews and the Christians) Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye standfast by the Law, the Gospel and all the revelations that has come to you from your Lord (Quran 5:71).
How could Allah say Jew and Christian should stand fast by the Law and Gospel if they have been corrupted?

Please note that if there are other verses of the quran that do not tally with the above, it is because the quran is full of contradictions.

I know the islamists on nairaland have no point against this hence their total silence, otherwise they would have come out enmass to rain abuses.

Can't you sense that something is wrong with the quran. After saying many fantastic things about the Jews and Christian Scripture, it contradicts itself again on them.

Christianity Etc › Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by truthman2012(op): 10:30pm On Apr 16, 2016

PHAYOL81:
Yeah God made mention of the uncorrupted Bible but don't shy away in telling them it's not the series we have around today and that it (the real Bible) rather supported the old testament, not disregard it as no-more-valid cos the God never changes and the laws never change.. . never, forever
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Lol !!! The usual lame excuse.

Can you tell me what existed in the time of Muhammad, because the Jews and Christian Scriptures that existed then were confirmed authentic ?

There were Christians in the time of Muhammad and there was no difference in what they believed then and what we believe now as the quran makes us to understand. As our Christian belief now is the same as it was in the days of Muhammad, it would make no sense that the Bible now is not the same as in the time of Muhammad. Now see what the quran says about the Christians in Muhammad's time:

And when there cometh unto them a Scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession (Quran 2:89).
First, this verse makes it clear that the Scripture in Jews' and Christians' possession at Muhammad's time is the TRUTH as the quran came to confirm and not to correct it. To confirm means to say it is true or authentic. [b]But why did Allah still say it is changed or corrupted?[/b]Second, if the quran came to confirm the earlier Scripture, why the differences? Allahh was manipulative here.

How come they come unto the (i.e Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)? Yet even after that they turn away. Such (folk) are not believers (Quran 5:43).
Even at Muhammad's time till today the Torah was valid for judgment. Or when was it changed and by who?

Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that
which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-doers (Quran 5:47).
The Gospel was also valid for judgment at Muhammad's time and till date. Or when was it changed and by who?

Say: "O People of the Book! (i.e the Jews and the Christians) Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye standfast by the Law, the Gospel and all the revelations that has come to you from your Lord (Quran 5:71).
How could Allah say Jew and Christian should stand fast by the Law and Gospel if they have been corrupted?

Please note that if there are other verses of the quran that do not tally with the above, it is because the quran is full of contradictions.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by truthman2012(op): 10:06pm On Apr 16, 2016

Buharism:
i dont need the quran to testify that the bible is the greatest religious book ever. it might be edited overtime by the romans, bt my religion is by faith.

How do you get faith ?

The Bible says faith comes by hearing the words of God. Where do you have the word of God on which your faith is anchored as you are an enemy of the Bible. You fit into islam perfectly and wonder how somebody like you can have the gut to claim you are a Christian. Liar !!!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by truthman2012(op): 9:35pm On Apr 16, 2016

Buharism:
**Farts on thread and run away**

Laughing !!!

You called yourself a Christian who loves the quran and now that your quran testifies to the Bible, which should make you happy as a Christian, you farted on it.

You are a liar. It is typical of every muslim to lie because their god told many lies in the quran. Like god like the faithfuls.

If you want to see many lies in the quran, I will give you on request.

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Christianity Etc › Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by truthman2012(op): 9:10pm On Apr 16, 2016

Surah 3:55: “Behold! Allah said: ‘O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee of the falsehood of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection.” (Yusuf Ali)

Allah said: "O Jesus! I am going to recall you (from your mission) and raise you up to Myself. I will clean you of those who rejected you and exalt your followers above the unbelievers until the Day of Resurrection; then to Me shall be your return and I shall judge those matters in which you have been disputing. (F. Malik)

The above statement in the Qur'an reveals the superiority of those who follow Jesus.Those who follow Jesus are Christians. Of course, this does not apply to those who are Christians in name only but to those who are his true faithful followers. These are the ones who will be exalted. They are exalted, not because of any personal superiority on their part but on account of truly submitting to the teachings of Christ as it is revealed in the Holy Bible.

According to the above Qur'anic verse, Christians will be “exalted” or made “superior” until the Day of Resurrection. The Day of Resurrection or Qiyamah refers to the “time of the end.” For Christians to be exalted until the time of the end, it logically follows that true Christianity must remain as a religion in this world until the “time of the end.” For true Christianity to remain as a religion in this world until the “time of the end,” true Christians must be present in this world until the “time of the end.” For true Christians to be present in this world until the time of the end, they must have a righteous standing with God until the “time of the end.” For them to have a righteous standing with God until the time of the end, they must be guided righteously until the “time of the end.” For them to be guided righteously until the time of the end, the Holy Book in their possession must remain true until the “time of the end.”

For the Qur'an to testify that the followers of Jesus Christ will be made “superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection,” the above detailed stages regarding the favorable standing of Christians must be accomplished precisely. And this would vitally include the integrity of the Bible which is in their possession.

The above Qur'anic verse proves beyond any doubt that the Holy Bible is indeed sufficient for the outworking of the Christian’s salvation, both now and in the future. Thus, we can be confident that the teachings of the Bible will remain as the authoritative guidance for mankind for all eternity. Therefore, the claim that the Qur’an was sent to replace the Bible or that the Bible is corrupted is a deliberate lie.

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Islam › Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(op): 6:23pm On Apr 16, 2016

Muhammad Hates For Allahh's Sake

"The strongest bond of faith is loyalty for the sake of Allah and opposition for His sake, love for the sake of Allah and enmity for His sake."
Abu Dawud 40:4582

Why do muslims talk of islam haters when they?also hate for allahh's sake?

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Islam › Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(op): 9:57am On Apr 16, 2016

Still no comment from nairaland islamists. You better give your life to Jesus now that you have known those hadiths you call fabricated because they portray islam as indecent, which it really is.

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Islam › Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(op): 9:35am On Apr 16, 2016

truthman2012:
Muhammad Not Sure of Allah's Judgement For Him

Quran 46:9] Say: I am not the first of the messengers, and I do not know what will be done with me or with you: I do not follow anything but that which is revealed to me, and I am nothing but a plain warner.

When confronted with that quranic verse that Muhammad wasn't sure of heaven, muslims say no, what it means is that Muhammad and the followers didn't know whether or not they would be killed and that the verse is not talking of afterlife. The following hadith explains that Muhammad was not sure of afterlife.

Narrated Anas: Whenever a strong wind blew, anxiety appeared on the face of the Prophet (fearing that wind might be a sign of Allah's wrath).
(Sahih Bukhari 2:17:144)

If he was sure of allahh's judgement, why the fear?

Islam › Re: What Islamic Scholars Said About Hell by truthman2012(op): 11:16pm On Apr 15, 2016

Extract from the link:

Jesus is in Heaven. And concerning the followers of Jesus Christ, the Qur'an states:
Surah 3:55: “Behold! Allah said: ‘O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee of the falsehood of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection.” (Yusuf Ali)

Allah said: "O Jesus! I am going to recall you (from your mission) and raise you up to Myself. I will clean you of those who rejected you and exalt your followers above the unbelievers until the Day of Resurrection; then to Me shall be your return and I shall judge those matters in which you have been disputing. (F. Malik)

The above statement in the Qur'an reveals the superiority of those who follow Jesus.Those who follow Jesus are Christians. Of course, this does not apply to those who are Christians in name only but to those who are his true faithful followers. These are the ones who will be exalted. They are exalted, not because of any personal superiority on their part but on account of truly submitting to the teachings of Christ as it is revealed in the Holy Bible.

According to the above Qur'anic verse, Christians will be “exalted” or made “superior” until the Day of Resurrection. The Day of Resurrection or Qiyamah refers to the “time of the end.” For Christians to be exalted until the time of the end, it logically follows that true Christianity must remain as a religion in this world until the “time of the end.” For true Christianity to remain as a religion in this world until the “time of the end,” true Christians must be present in this world until the “time of the end.” For true Christians to be present in this world until the time of the end, they must have a righteous standing with God until the “time of the end.” For them to have a righteous standing with God until the time of the end, they must be guided righteously until the “time of the end.” For them to be guided righteously until the time of the end, the Holy Book in their possession must remain true until the “time of the end.”
For the Qur'an to testify that the followers of Jesus Christ will be made “superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection,” the above detailed stages regarding the favorable standing of Christians must be accomplished precisely. And this would vitally include the integrity of the Bible which is in their possession.

The above Qur'anic verse proves beyond any doubt that the Holy Bible is indeed sufficient for the outworking of the Christian’s salvation, both now and in the future. Thus, we can be confident that the teachings of the Bible will remain as the authoritative guidance for mankind for all eternity. Therefore, the claim that the Qur’an was sent to replace the Bible or that the Bible is corrupted is a deliberate lie.

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Islam › Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(op): 11:05pm On Apr 15, 2016

HomoSapiien:
It isn't my opinion. It is the reAlity, don't you know the Bible like the quran is another shi

Sorry, this thread is not meant for atheists. Thank you.

Islam › Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(op): 11:05pm On Apr 15, 2016

Islam › Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(op): 9:47pm On Apr 15, 2016

HomoSapiien:
Quran and Bible are same piss of nonsense. You know that don't you?

That is your opinion. You are entitled to your unbelief but you are fortunate not to have come to the world in the time of Muhammad, you would have been forced to drop your unbelief for islam, otherwise, your head would have been removed from your neck. Lucky you. But you will not be so lucky in the afterlife because your spirit will return to where it came and account for your life on earth.

Islam › Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(op): 8:54pm On Apr 15, 2016*

HomoSapiien:
[i maybe Isaiah was not a prophet then as according to 20:3 /i]

Now I can see where you are going.

Isaiah 20:1-3
In the year that the supreme commander, sent by Sargon king of Assyria, came to Ashdod and attacked and captured it— 2 at that time the Lord spoke through Isaiah son of Amoz. He said to him, “Take off the sackcloth from your body and the sandals from your feet.” And he did so, going around stripped and barefoot.

3 Then the Lord said, “Just as my servant Isaiah has gone stripped and barefoot for three years, as a sign and portent against Egypt and Cush

When Israel was attacked by the enemies and made a spoil of them, Isaiah was grieved and he put on a sackcloth. A sackcloth is a cloth of sorrow. Then he was instructed by God to remove it and also his sandals. Please note that Isaiah didn't do it for pleasure and not by his own will. He did it as a sign and portent against Egypt as commanded by God.

Where was Muhammad instructed to wear women's cloth? He did it probably for sexual enjoyment like the gays and cross-dressers. Or what did he intend to achieve by wearing women's cloth and also braiding his hair?

See: http://seekershub.org/ans-blog/2010/07/27/the-braids-of-the-messenger-of-allah-allah-bless-him-and-grant-him-peace/

Now back to the OP, do you believe some hadiths are fabricated?

Islam › Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(op): 7:33pm On Apr 15, 2016

Muhammad Not Sure of Allah's Judgement For Him

Quran 46:9] Say: I am not the first of the messengers, and I do not know what will be done with me or with you: I do not follow anything but that which is revealed to me, and I am nothing but a plain warner.

When confronted with that quranic verse that Muhammad wasn't sure of heaven, muslims say no, what it means is that Muhammad and the followers didn't know whether or not they would be killed and that the verse is not talking of afterlife. The following hadith explains that Muhammad was not sure of afterlife.

Narrated Anas: Whenever a strong wind blew, anxiety appeared on the face of the Prophet (fearing that wind might be a sign of Allah's wrath).
(Sahih Bukhari 2:17:144)

If he was sure of allahh's judgement, why the fear?

Islam › Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(op): 6:25pm On Apr 15, 2016

HomoSapiien:
I will probably not accept him as a prophet. How about if you see an unclad man, with no shoethat calls himself a prophet, what would you say? Would you accept him a as prophet?

Unclad ?

That is too much na ?

Unless he is stripped n.aked by his enemies, he cannot be a prophet.

Islam › Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(op): 4:36pm On Apr 15, 2016

Annunaki:
If mohammed were to re appear today and live his life as he did then, 99% of muslims will reject him and label him as a fake prophet and criminal of of very low moral values.

You are very correct.

How could a prophet of God be wearing women cloth? Anyway, he was said to be the only prophet of allahh, who is not the true God.

Islam › Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by truthman2012(op): 4:24pm On Apr 15, 2016

macof:
it's not my opinion but facts.
look at the celebration of yuletide. .. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule

see the resemblance to Christmas? same pagan practices on the same dates

why was the day of a pagan festival. ..the biggest festival in pagan Europe chosen to remember Jesus?

why celebrate Jesus birthday on a day that isn't his birth date?
you see pagan influence in christendom?

Ishtar is not an idol but a Goddess. ..
Why celebrate Easter on a date determined by the movement of the moon and other celestial bodies? same method used by pagan Babylonian cults

I bet you didn't know the Catholic Church uses mathematicians and astronomers to determine the changing dates of Easter

you probably never asked yourself why easter changes dates. ...ignorance of your religion seems to be your pleasure

like I said there are different names for Christmas. ..weihnachten, Navidad, day of the solstice, yuletide etc
the origin of the festival is pagan not Christian

read the link above for clarity

why was it chosen to celebrate Jesus? what special reason if not a way to retain pagan practices that were hard to erase
Christmas season is the period the winter sun comes up... and there's much merriment. ...Yule actually means Merriment. ... was there merriment at the birth of Jesus?
give way for the sun God for Christmas is truly a celebration for the birth of the Sun(for the new year)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/7849852/Jesus-did-not-die-on-cross-says-scholar.html

Jesus wasn't killed on a crucifix like that

it was a straight pole. .. ask jehovah witness why they don't ever reference the crucifix

it's a pagan symbol in Christianity. ..and the bible never said Jesus died on a crucifix of such shape. .. read the link above for clarity

Here you come !!!

I know you cannot back up your assertions with authentic proof. The writer of the article in the link you gave must be an atheist, no theologian will disbelieve the Bible. Atheists are enemies of Christianity. The Bible makes it clear that Jesus was killed on the cross. According to English dictionary, to crucify means to kill on the cross.

The Crucifixion of Christ

Matt. 27:32–38, 48, 50; Mark 15:21–26, 36, 37; Luke 23:26–33, 38, 46

17 And He, bearing His cross, pwent out to a place called the Place of a Skull, which is called in Hebrew, Golgotha, 18 where they crucified Him, and two others with Him, one on either side, and Jesus in the center. 19 rNow Pilate wrote a title and put it on the cross. And the writing was:

JESUS OF NAZARETH, THE KING OF THE JEWS
20 Then many of the Jews read this title, for the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city; and it was written in Hebrew, Greek, and Latin.

Do you call a straight pole cross?

Islam › Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(op): 3:30pm On Apr 15, 2016

As a Muslim, if today you see a man who calls himself a prophet wearing women's dresses, what will you say? Would you accept him as a prophet?

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Islam › Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(op): 10:16am On Apr 15, 2016*

Now that it has been established all hadiths by recognized writers are authentic, I will begin to examine some hadiths to see what they say about Muhammad and islam.

Muhammad a cross-dresser

Narrated by Abdullah ibn Abdel Wahab, narrated by Hamad, narrated by Hisham, narrated by his father who related that the people would present their gifts (to the prophet) when he was at Aisha’s house. The companions of Um Salamah said, “O Um Salamah! By Allah the people wait to give their gifts till it is Aisha’s day and we desire the good things just as Aisha does. So ask the prophet to command the people to give him his gifts in whatever house of his wives he may be in.” Um Salamah mentioned this to the prophet but would not respond to her. She repeated it a second time but he still would not respond to her, but on the third time he said, “O Um Salama! Do not hurt me with Aisha; for by Allah, the inspiration did not descent on me while I was in the coverings (lihaf) of any of you (women) except Aisha.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Hadith Number 3941 Volume Title, “The Book of Virtues.” Chapter Title, “The Virtues of Aisha)

We can see Muhammad wearing Aisha's lihaf and lihaf of his other wives. A lihaf is a dress worn by women. In fact, he said he was receiving revelations when he was in a woman's dress. Was Muhammad a Cross- dresser?

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Islam › Re: What Islamic Scholars Said About Hell by truthman2012(op): 8:33pm On Apr 14, 2016

Rilwayne001:
www.nairaland.com/2314493/why-muslims-not-afraid-death

All your explanations in the thread were faulted just as the scholars in this OP were not in agreement with your shallow knowledge of islam.

You cited some quranic verses that are contradictory to each other. You trashed the quran and not the thread.

Islam › Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(op): 8:26pm On Apr 14, 2016

Rilwayne001:
you deliberately mispelt my name and that of my bro because you are a shameless coward.

Lol..are you now feigning ignorance? anyways i am still waiting for you to prove that you are not a coward www.nairaland.com/3037548/quran-109-6-height-hypocrisy/1

Not so quick. we have to finish one before rushing to another.

Oh !!! That thread? I decided not to answer you guys because all you were doing was abuses and insults, just as you have shown here. It is your normal style to resort to indecent languages when you have no defence. The god you represent must be indecent to have you as his faithfuls.

Go back to the link to my thread and show what reasonable posts I didn't attend to.

On this particular OP to which you have said nothing, a liar like you is avoiding answering now and saying you are waiting till I respond to your abuses on other thread. You are unintelligently lying, deceiving yourself.

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Islam › Re: What Islamic Scholars Said About Hell by truthman2012(op): 7:01pm On Apr 14, 2016

Rilwayne001:
Go back to that thread where i trashed the canceled part and prove it to be true. or bury your featherhead in shame.

Which thread? Give the link.

If you are not a liar you are not a muslim.

Islam › Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(op): 6:59pm On Apr 14, 2016*

Rilwayne001:
You are a very bad liar. You are a very deceitful person that one needs to be careful with. However you can only deceive those ignorant sheeps following you.

You said you mentioned our names, is that the correct spellings ofour moniker?

You are obviously a coward, and you've proven it times without number on here. Good to know though.

bastard coward, you have to abandon your thread, after you were showned how atrocious your God is, when are you going to come andprove otherwise?

even your retarded coadjutors couldn't help your sorry azz..smh

Lol !!! Very lame excuse. If I misspelled your name, does it mean you didn't know I was referring to you? How did you now know I was referring to you, have I spelt your name correctly? Unintelligent excuse.

Which thread did I abandone, Mr terrorist? What happened in that thread, give the link.

Back to this OP, I haven't seen any refutal of yours other than your usual abuses, which have no effect. Or are you saying your abuses and insults are your defences? Bury your head in shame.

Why do you islamists lie that hadiths that show the dirts and evils of islam are fabricated?

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Islam › Re: Islam And The Meccans' Religions Before It by truthman2012(op): 6:34pm On Apr 14, 2016

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my false opinion? did I invent the festival of yuletide (now called Christmas)? or did I invent the Goddess Ishtar (that is celebrated during easter) or did I give the Egyptian mystic cults the symbol of the cross?
this is not my opinion at all but facts.

Yes, your opinion about Yuletide is false. Yuletide or Christmas celebrated by the Christians is in remembrance of the birth of Jesus. It is a day unanimously chosen in Christendom to remember Jesus birth. Look at the meaning of Yelutide below:

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/yuletide

Easter, as I have told you before, is also to commemorate the death of Jesus. You lied by saying Christians celebrate idol Ishtar. That the names sound alike doesn't mean they are the same. Easter is not the same as Ishtar. No Christian celebrate Easter for Ishtar as you wrongly asserted.

bible is your last resort abi? show me where in Bible, Christmas or any Christmas activity( tending trees and light decorations) was performed....but it was performed by pagans on December 25th for Yuletide
show me where easter was performed by Christians in the bible. ...and where in the bible were you told to decorate eggs and feast with rabbits. ...but pagans did this in honor of Ishtar

Which pagans celebrate Yuletide on December 25? For which idol are they celebrating their Yuletide? What is the meaning of Yuletide? Yuletide means festival. Yuletide, a name for festival can be adopted by any religion.

Celebration of Christmas is not a commandment in the Bible and the reason for some Christians not celebrating it. But if a day is chosen to celebrate the birth of our saviour Jesus Christ, it goes.

show me where it was stated in the crucifixion that Jesus died on a cross shaped like the Egyptian mystic symbol

Jesus was killed on the cross. How did the cross used in Israel in killing Jesus look like? Was the cross designed by the Christians, who never existed at that time? What does it matter if the cross used by the enemies of God who killed Jesus looked like Egyptian mystic? The event of using the cross to kill Jesus has overtaken that of Egyptian mystic.

Islam › Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(op): 4:17pm On Apr 14, 2016

Buharism:
The highlighted are context that demand a retaliation/killing.
Quran 2:190 – 195
2:190 Fight in the way of God those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. God does not like transgressors .
2:191 And kill them wherever you find them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you , and fitnah [Persecution] is worse than killing . And do not fight them at al- Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there . But if they fight you , then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
2:192 And if they cease, then indeed, God is Forgiving and Merciful .
2:193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah [Persecution] and [until] worship is for God. But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.
2:194 [Fighting in] the sacred month is for [aggression committed in] the sacred month, and for [all] violations is legal retribution. So whoever has assaulted you, then assault him in the same way that he has assaulted you . And fear God and know that God is with those who fear Him.
2:195 And spend in the way of God and do not throw [yourselves] with your [own] hands into destruction [by refraining]. And do good; indeed, God loves the doers of good.

This is one of your quotes: 2:193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah [Persecution] and [until] worship is for God. But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.

Meaning keep fighting people until worship is for allahh alone. Is this not what Book Haram, ISIL and other Islamic terrorists are doing ? Why do you blame them and not Muhammad?

Leave that alone and address the OP. What is your opinion about your people's claim that some hadiths are fabricated? Those of your brothers in islam who used to shout some hadiths are fabricated have withdrawn to their shell in the face of convincing proof. What do you say?

Islam › Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(op): 2:30pm On Apr 14, 2016

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You quoted the Quran without the context.

The quran does not have context. allahh didn't narrate anything relating it to any specific event.

If there is context in the quran, quote one in respect of killing of infidels.

Islam › Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(op): 1:49pm On Apr 14, 2016

Buharism:
1 king 18:39-40
39 When the crowd saw what had happened, they all bowed down and shouted, "The LORD is God! The LORD is God!"
40 Just then, Elijah said, "Grab the prophets of Baal! Don't let any of them get away." So the people captured the prophets and took them to Kishon River, where Elijah killed every one of them..
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those places u quote frm the quran are they nt given during the time of war, when they where attacking the muslems?.
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u claim that turkey was 100% christians, and i refuted it, u nw claim that their was no evidence to my claim, so where did u get your "Turkey was 100% christians from"?.
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i have moved on frm ur thread, dont call me back again and claim that am derailing ur thread.

Trash !!!

You quoted the Bible without the context. I told you Elijah and prophets of Baal's were challenging one another about the power of their god and Elijah's God. Elijah's God defeated Baal and it's prophets had to lose their lives for it.

Muhammad said he had the order to fight the people till they accept islam. Is that a war situation? You have problems understanding simple things. Why are you blaming Boko Haram and ISIL for following Muhammad's examples? You love Muhammad but hate his followers, pure nonsense.

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Islam › Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(op): 12:59pm On Apr 14, 2016

Buharism:
so u can kill for certain reasons abi?. so the one elijah and elisha did was right.
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What happens to the "Thou shall not kill"
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was turkey a 100% christian country? did u see my rply

Your reply on Turkey has no proof.

The Israelites lived by God's Laws and some offences carried death penalties. Besides, killing is inevitable under war situations.

Thou shall not kill means you shouldn't take law into your hand by taking the life of another.

Elijah killed in self defence and not by swords or any physical means, it was by God's own power who rained fire on his enemies. The prophets of Bar accepted a challenge and died because they lost.

Elisha too didn't use any physical means to kill, it was by demonstration of God's power.

Muhammad used physical means to kill those who didn't believe him, why didn't he ask allahh to do the killing? Didn't allahh have power of his own? Tell me what supernatural things allahh did in the quran to promote himself.

My friend, I will.advise you not to try to distract people's attention from the subject of my thread for lack of defence. As an islamist, provide defence for the OP instead of this diversionary method.

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